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jamstar saa187
Imperial Populicide Legion
Alpha Wolf Pack
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Posted - 2013.05.29 15:25:00 -
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Shadow Camo wrote:Dear CCP,
I ( Shadow Camo) am relatively new to Dust. I am writing to see if i can still get a skill respec, due to not knowing how the skills really worked for my character until my friend BLACKDEMONBMW showed me. Again after I realized what i was really putting s.p. down for, I just wanna kinda slap myself in the face... But at the same time if you are un-able to do this for me, I will totally understand, but at the same time I wish I took initiative to log into the Dust Website sooner, and find the respec forum before you had the update on it during server downtime. All in all I would Highly appreciate it if you could give me a skill respec. Thanks again for taking a look at my response to this forum.
-One of your happiest and loyal fans
-Shadow Camo
- PSN: SniperCamo95
go to the DUst514.com website and submit a ticket with 'respec' as the subject title |
LICHSMASHER
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2013.05.29 15:31:00 -
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wrong form account |
Lichsmash RN
Quackery Labs
Roid Addicts
3
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Posted - 2013.05.29 15:38:00 -
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LICHSMASHER wrote:wrong form account
sorry about taht is is the account with the hep ticket
i accidentally posted a help ticket iwin the bug report category as i didn't know that any one else was getting massive amounts of isk i fear that since non of the fixes have helped it will be days to anyone finds my help ticket due to me not knowing where to file it
i feel stuck in no mans land. |
SuperKing BigNuts
Contract Hunters
52
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Posted - 2013.05.29 15:41:00 -
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could always send a message apologizing for your mistake and close that ticket and open a new one in the correct category.
i am not for certain how they want you to handle it, but this is how i would attempt to make things right. |
Lichsmash RN
Quackery Labs
Roid Addicts
3
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Posted - 2013.05.29 15:42:00 -
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SuperKing BigNuts wrote:could always send a message apologizing for your mistake and close that ticket and open a new one in the correct category.
i am not for certain how they want you to handle it, but this is how i would attempt to make things right.
thaks but do you know what category to put it under they dont say in the main post |
SSBBW Amber
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
38
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Posted - 2013.05.29 15:47:00 -
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So has anyone that asked for an account RESET gotten one yet? Mine still hasn't been reset. I got the respect that I asked for on my other account, but not me reset. |
jin foxdale
Purgatorium of the Damned
League of Infamy
17
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Posted - 2013.05.29 15:52:00 -
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So, downtime has come and gone on this fine Wednesday, and I still have 100m extra ISK - has anyone had theirs removed yet? For the record, I'd like to keep the risk/reward aspect of Dust alive, and will gladly pay back the ISK that is currently mocking me in my own home... |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3133
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Posted - 2013.05.29 16:09:00 -
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So I just checked my account, and in spite of having been advised that we can request a respec on a single character, and in spite of requesting a respec for my tank alt and ONLY that character, I've had my whole account respecced.
Not a huge issue, and shouldn't take long to retrain all the relevant skills, but it was an unexpected inconvenience for me to deal with. It would have been nice to be advised that I wasn't going to see a single-character respec as requested. Or, you know, to actually get what I was told I'd be getting, but apparently that's not how things work around here. |
SuperKing BigNuts
Contract Hunters
52
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Posted - 2013.05.29 16:12:00 -
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jin foxdale wrote:So, downtime has come and gone on this fine Wednesday, and I still have 100m extra ISK - has anyone had theirs removed yet? For the record, I'd like to keep the risk/reward aspect of Dust alive, and will gladly pay back the ISK that is currently mocking me in my own home...
ive created a 'tears thread' about this issue in general chat, some people hadnt realized that they were dying inside due to the influx of isk...
@lich
i filed my respec petition under skills 2 weeks ago, and it timed out and was closed automatically. i filed the followup for no respec also in skills. i have been using the followup to complain about the isk issues, but should probably create a second, seperate petition at this point for the isk. |
jin foxdale
Purgatorium of the Damned
League of Infamy
17
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Posted - 2013.05.29 16:26:00 -
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SuperKing BigNuts wrote:jin foxdale wrote:So, downtime has come and gone on this fine Wednesday, and I still have 100m extra ISK - has anyone had theirs removed yet? For the record, I'd like to keep the risk/reward aspect of Dust alive, and will gladly pay back the ISK that is currently mocking me in my own home... ive created a 'tears thread' about this issue in general chat, some people hadnt realized that they were dying inside due to the influx of isk... @lich i filed my respec petition under skills 2 weeks ago, and it timed out and was closed automatically. i filed the followup for no respec also in skills. i have been using the followup to complain about the isk issues, but should probably create a second, seperate petition at this point for the isk.
Righty ho, I'm off to the tears thread!
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SuperKing BigNuts
Contract Hunters
52
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Posted - 2013.05.29 17:01:00 -
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last i saw, it was on page3 of general, titled "Am i the only one not happy with this isk?" |
Baosh Shiryl
DUST University
Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2013.05.29 17:01:00 -
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So should I submit another ticket? It has been a week since I did so and I have not gotten any confirmation about it. |
SuperKing BigNuts
Contract Hunters
52
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Posted - 2013.05.29 17:03:00 -
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GM Grave said you should have received a response on your petition within 72 hours... if it has been more than 3 days, you may have mis-filed.
Title should have been Skill Respec or ... i forget the title for the account reset... the details were here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=77103&find=unread |
Baosh Shiryl
DUST University
Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2013.05.29 17:05:00 -
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I did title it Skill Respec under the skills category. |
SuperKing BigNuts
Contract Hunters
52
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Posted - 2013.05.29 17:07:00 -
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the petition get closed automatically? or is it still open? if its open, send a reply, see if itll bump you up in the queue... if it got closed waiting for a response, id say file again |
Baosh Shiryl
DUST University
Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2013.05.29 17:16:00 -
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SuperKing BigNuts wrote:the petition get closed automatically? or is it still open? if its open, send a reply, see if itll bump you up in the queue... if it got closed waiting for a response, id say file again
Upon closer observation, I think my first ticket failed to send at all. Submitted another one it seems to have worked. Now I wait. |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
272
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Posted - 2013.05.29 19:42:00 -
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CLAYTON84 wrote:wow you mean to tell me that I may be negative because of someone else mistake. I already spent a lot of that money before a friend said check the forums they said they are taking the money back. How was I to know that you guys made a mistake, not mad that you did I just think you guys should take this one on the cheek and learn from mistakes. I really don't see how you would justify making countless people go negative in ISK due to something they had no control over please reconsider this option. Thanks for you time.
Or you learn to play more cautiously and don't spend money unless you need it..... just saying. Glitches happen, you cant blame anyone but yourself for being negative if that is the case. |
Bucktooth Badger
Buck's Intergalactic Pawn Shop
85
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Posted - 2013.05.29 21:14:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:
No, once you form a corp, you do not need the skills to keep it running.
Just to clarify though, if a CEO of a large corp (not me ) was to respec, would they need to reskill into corps to accept any new members or will the corp be able to accept members up to the current skill level has been fulfilled?
As an example, if I did a mad splurge now and skilled to 5 in all three corp related skills, potentially my corp could have up to 1300 members. If I then respec, would the corp still have that potential without me putting any sp into the necessary skills or would it just have the current membership until I skilled up accordingly to allow new members?
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SuperKing BigNuts
Contract Hunters
53
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Posted - 2013.05.29 21:38:00 -
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an error message would pop up saying you have insufficient skills to accept any new members to the corporation. |
Pakratpatti TG
TeamPlayers
EoN.
14
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Posted - 2013.05.29 21:43:00 -
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CCP for those of us that did get the respect..& have ?'s as to the amount of Isk & SP we received being accurate or not. Could you Please post when the corrections on your end have been made so we know if what we received is correct in case we see NO change in the next few days to or new total amounts. Thanks |
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Vethosis
Universal Allies Inc.
54
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Posted - 2013.05.29 21:49:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:logically you really should have noticed that something went wrong. there is no such thing as a free meal.
I didn't know if CCP was giving isk for free. |
Orin the Freak
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
663
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Posted - 2013.05.29 21:50:00 -
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this is so awesome. I got my respec, but now I'm afraid to buy any skill books/gear for fear of CCP screwing me into debt. thanks CCP. one more reason to seriously love your company. |
Forlorn Destrier
ZionTCD
Unclaimed.
1006
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Posted - 2013.05.29 21:53:00 -
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CLAYTON84 wrote:wow you mean to tell me that I may be negative because of someone else mistake. I already spent a lot of that money before a friend said check the forums they said they are taking the money back. How was I to know that you guys made a mistake, not mad that you did I just think you guys should take this one on the cheek and learn from mistakes. I really don't see how you would justify making countless people go negative in ISK due to something they had no control over please reconsider this option. Thanks for you time.
Common sense.
If your bank gives you extra money that isn't yours, do you spend that too then complain that the bank took your money when they realize the mistake? |
SuperKing BigNuts
Contract Hunters
53
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Posted - 2013.05.29 22:29:00 -
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Orin the Freak wrote:this is so awesome. I got my respec, but now I'm afraid to buy any skill books/gear for fear of CCP screwing me into debt. thanks CCP. one more reason to seriously love your company.
you should know approximately how much ISK you had, and if you manage to go into the red buying skillbooks, it shouldnt take you terribly long to grind your way back into the positives. especially since all skillbooks you had should have had their isk price refunded.
buying ALL skillbooks in the game shouldnt be more than about 85m or so. approximately 2.5m per weapon x17 2.8m/race in dropsuits, 10mrace vehicles, plus another 1m for misc vehicle skills, 1m for turrets(im not seeing specs on market...), 1.5m for engineering roughly, under 1m for the electronics skills, about 1.1m for mechanics, 8.5m for corp management, under 5m for all the dropsuit upgrades. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
100
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Posted - 2013.05.29 22:34:00 -
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Question, you mention penalizing corporations that launder this bug ISK but how do you plan to track and prove it?
I ask since I imagine many of the larger corps whose characters have multiple alts have likely already started to pass that ISK around |
SuperKing BigNuts
Contract Hunters
53
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Posted - 2013.05.29 22:37:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Question, you mention penalizing corporations that launder this bug ISK but how do you plan to track and prove it?
I ask since I imagine many of the larger corps whose characters have multiple alts have likely already started to pass that ISK around
they wont. they will simply take the isk away from the players. rather than track where the isk went, it is easier to just reverse engineer the bug itself by refrencing everyones wallet journal entries. the last entry before downtime had 1 value, the first entry after downtime had the second value, and the difference is how much isk they shouldnt have.
or thats how it SHOULD have worked... until the hotfix yesterday made me go from 161m extra to 156m extra... |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
100
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Posted - 2013.05.29 22:41:00 -
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SuperKing BigNuts wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Question, you mention penalizing corporations that launder this bug ISK but how do you plan to track and prove it?
I ask since I imagine many of the larger corps whose characters have multiple alts have likely already started to pass that ISK around they wont. they will simply take the isk away from the players. rather than track where the isk went, it is easier to just reverse engineer the bug itself by refrencing everyones wallet journal entries. the last entry before downtime had 1 value, the first entry after downtime had the second value, and the difference is how much isk they shouldnt have. or thats how it SHOULD have worked... until the hotfix yesterday made me go from 161m extra to 156m extra... the corporation would still have plenty of spare change, but the individuals who laundered the isk would be red until they either recovered the isk they donated to corp, or farmed out the isk in battle.
Ah, Im starting to get why CCP has such rabid fanboys then if they can abuse bugs without so much as a finger wagged at them |
SuperKing BigNuts
Contract Hunters
53
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Posted - 2013.05.29 22:55:00 -
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well define what you mean by abuse, if membership wont be able to purchase anything unless they get the isk back from whoever they sent it to... if corporation were to go red, it wouldnt be able to buy clone packs or whatever else corps are allowed to purchase at this point.
ive had a negative wallet balance before after a successful reimbursement petition on EVE, they dont just magic stuff for the player, when i got the ship back(plus ONLY the destroyed items that didnt drop), i lost the insurance payout for it, and since i didnt have the money, they warned me that my wallet would be negative, and while it was negative, i couldnt buy ANYTHING... here we have militia fits(10-20% difference to proto weapons?)... EVE you have a rookie ship... i would take militia fit over rookie ship any day. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
100
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Posted - 2013.05.29 23:02:00 -
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By abuse I mean taking these bugged funds from alts people no longer use IE clones sitting collecting passive XP, burned spy clones, etc and funneling them into the mains corporations significantly boosting their wallets with no down side |
SuperKing BigNuts
Contract Hunters
53
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Posted - 2013.05.29 23:13:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:By abuse I mean taking these bugged funds from alts people no longer use IE clones sitting collecting passive XP, burned spy clones, etc and funneling them into the mains corporations significantly boosting their wallets with no down side
my unused alts have under 4m isk each... if they received any fraudulent funds, it doesnt amount to much, 8m/account x 20 people might start making an impact, but if you have 100+ players in a corp, and any decent number of them are into proto gear, chances are the income from 8m/player isnt going to be terribly huge.
but at the same time, tracking all of these transactions would be nearly impossible, not to mention distinguishing between personal isk and fraudulent isk after the transactions start... rather than putting a specific number on a single isk and trying to follow it through its lifes experience, it is simply easier to revert any and all characters proceedurally for the erroneous amount of isk before and after downtime. some of it will get through yes, but a lions share of the isk will be pulled out of circulation one way or another. if someone scraps an alt or two who got their isk into circulation saves them a few hundred manhours trying to perform forensic accounting to focus on more pressing issues, so be it. 160m from my example earlier for 20x players, or single players, such as myself, having 160m each... its not perfect, but it is quick and simple.
as mentioned, id rather CCP does a quick and dirty fix here, and focus on something more pressing than attempting to track THOUSANDS of players financial records of what isk went where. |
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