DUST Search - Announcement:Skill & ISK Issues As Of Downtime 28th May

semperfi1999 wrote:

cSRT4 wrote:

semperfi1999 wrote:

cSRT4 wrote:

Looks like a lot of people are gonna have to stop being try-hards and run what they can truly afford.

LMMFAO at all they newbs to the world of money. If a bank accidentally deposits money into your account (we're talking REAL WORLD HERE), when they find their mistake, which THEY WILL FIND IT, they take it back.

So, let's say you go to the ATM, pull out $20 and see that your account shows $100,000 instead of $1,000, do you go buy a new car? NO! They're coming back to get their money. IT'S NOT YOURS! YOU KNOW IT! JUST STOP IT PEOPLE! Play within your means.

Still SMH (AND ROFLMMFAO)

The ppl who spent more than they had and spent the bugged money diserve what they got. The people who did not spend the bugged isk because they knew about it and then they lost not just the bugged isk but also the isk they should have had anyway.......and not just that but were put deep into the red because of CCPs inability to do math. They have a legitimate complaint. So basically you made yourself look like an idiot with this statement as there are a ton of ppl who had their isk completely taken away by CCP including everyhting they legitimately earned.

QQ. Sounds like you need a tissue (and an accountant). Boohoo for you. ROFLMAO AT YOU!!! HAHAHAHAHA

Your apparent lack of reading comprehension is astounding. Let me make this clearer. CCP took more money from alot of people then they accidentally gave with the bugged isk. The highest amount I have heard so far is CCP taking an additional 500 million isk over what they accidentally gave in the bug. This amount woudl make almost anyone go isk negative. Personally I am fine and probably have better isk handling mangement than you do....however I also have not had a chance to see if CCP has actually taken away more isk than what I was given so it remains to be seen if CCP took additonal millions from me.

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noobsniper the 2nd GHETTOSTAR GALACTICA 2	Posted - 2013.05.30 16:36:00 - [271] - Quote well i lost 1 mill that i had earned by playing the game so im kinda mad while my buddie was given 100mil that wasnt taken away so wtf ccp...
cSRT4 SyNergy Gaming EoN. 6	Posted - 2013.05.30 16:42:00 - [272] - Quote Looks like a lot of people are gonna have to stop being try-hards and run what they can truly afford. LMMFAO at all they newbs to the world of money. If a bank accidentally deposits money into your account (we're talking REAL WORLD HERE), when they find their mistake, which THEY WILL FIND IT, they take it back. So, let's say you go to the ATM, pull out $20 and see that your account shows $100,000 instead of $1,000, do you go buy a new car? NO! They're coming back to get their money. IT'S NOT YOURS! YOU KNOW IT! JUST STOP IT PEOPLE! Play within your means. Still SMH (AND ROFLMMFAO)
Dizonofjuanathon 5702 Murderz for hire 0	Posted - 2013.05.30 16:43:00 - [273] - Quote F*(%K , yea thats right . Thats what i have to say , there is on it but one word .............
Lucrezia LeGrand Verboten Industries 9	Posted - 2013.05.30 17:03:00 - [274] - Quote cSRT4 wrote: Looks like a lot of people are gonna have to stop being try-hards and run what they can truly afford. LMMFAO at all they newbs to the world of money. If a bank accidentally deposits money into your account (we're talking REAL WORLD HERE), when they find their mistake, which THEY WILL FIND IT, they take it back. So, let's say you go to the ATM, pull out $20 and see that your account shows $100,000 instead of $1,000, do you go buy a new car? NO! They're coming back to get their money. IT'S NOT YOURS! YOU KNOW IT! JUST STOP IT PEOPLE! Play within your means. Still SMH (AND ROFLMMFAO) That's true IRL but it's an easy mistake to make in a game. For example. I just recently became active in the forums so I now know about the isk glitch but when I bought a merc pack, the second time I logged in I got some free dropsuit fits (protectorate and something else) and I thought "Oh, wow, CCP. That's really cool of you." When I played in April, at the end of the human endurance test (which I didn't know about) I got a bunch of free items and weapons and I thought "Sweet! CCP is really nice for doing this." And then when I was planning on deleting Zor-Magna and decided to donate what was left of her isk I noticed she had extra. So I figured it was CCP doing some other promotion. We aren't trying to cheat the "system" we were just happy for the extra isk. Now that I have that out of the way, do I contact foxfour to let him know what I did with the isk? Where do I go? Who do I email? T-T
semperfi1999 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 474	Posted - 2013.05.30 17:55:00 - [275] - Quote cSRT4 wrote: Looks like a lot of people are gonna have to stop being try-hards and run what they can truly afford. LMMFAO at all they newbs to the world of money. If a bank accidentally deposits money into your account (we're talking REAL WORLD HERE), when they find their mistake, which THEY WILL FIND IT, they take it back. So, let's say you go to the ATM, pull out $20 and see that your account shows $100,000 instead of $1,000, do you go buy a new car? NO! They're coming back to get their money. IT'S NOT YOURS! YOU KNOW IT! JUST STOP IT PEOPLE! Play within your means. Still SMH (AND ROFLMMFAO) The ppl who spent more than they had and spent the bugged money diserve what they got. The people who did not spend the bugged isk because they knew about it and then they lost not just the bugged isk but also the isk they should have had anyway.......and not just that but were put deep into the red because of CCPs inability to do math. They have a legitimate complaint. So basically you made yourself look like an idiot with this statement as there are a ton of ppl who had their isk completely taken away by CCP including everyhting they legitimately earned.
Sniper436 Forsaken Immortals Gentlemen's Agreement 0	Posted - 2013.05.30 18:14:00 - [276] - Quote well I got my respec (on a character that I've not used for over a month before the respec) and saw that I had 5,000,000 ISK.. seemed about right but turns out I'm now at -1,000,000... what am I meant to do about this? there was no way to tell whether I'd been granted extra ISK or not.. very unimpressed.
GManKilla 2898 D3LTA ACADEMY 0	Posted - 2013.05.30 18:17:00 - [277] - Quote [quote=Doc Noah]You knew with full knowledge that the sudden ISK boost was illegitimate and yet you took advantage of it while looking the other way. You reap what you sow. And technically you didnt lose anything, you still got equipment/gear you paid for with your own money. The money you spent on corp still goes to your corp, if you want you can ask for it back. really i though they sold my assests so i specked in and stocked on dropships n tanks that wont last tell i get back positive truly it not my fault i play a game and get stuff i cant use nor that i though the respec was like before
cSRT4 SyNergy Gaming EoN. 6	Posted - 2013.05.30 18:21:00 - [278] - Quote semperfi1999 wrote: cSRT4 wrote: Looks like a lot of people are gonna have to stop being try-hards and run what they can truly afford. LMMFAO at all they newbs to the world of money. If a bank accidentally deposits money into your account (we're talking REAL WORLD HERE), when they find their mistake, which THEY WILL FIND IT, they take it back. So, let's say you go to the ATM, pull out $20 and see that your account shows $100,000 instead of $1,000, do you go buy a new car? NO! They're coming back to get their money. IT'S NOT YOURS! YOU KNOW IT! JUST STOP IT PEOPLE! Play within your means. Still SMH (AND ROFLMMFAO) The ppl who spent more than they had and spent the bugged money diserve what they got. The people who did not spend the bugged isk because they knew about it and then they lost not just the bugged isk but also the isk they should have had anyway.......and not just that but were put deep into the red because of CCPs inability to do math. They have a legitimate complaint. So basically you made yourself look like an idiot with this statement as there are a ton of ppl who had their isk completely taken away by CCP including everyhting they legitimately earned. QQ. Sounds like you need a tissue (and an accountant). Boohoo for you. ROFLMAO AT YOU!!! HAHAHAHAHA
Senator Snipe Nova Tech Marines Hephaestus Forge Alliance 1	Posted - 2013.05.30 18:25:00 - [279] - Quote I need my isk back because i can't use anything. I'm all out. Using just prologue stuff now.
v3k3v Imperfects Negative-Feedback 34	Posted - 2013.05.30 18:42:00 - [280] - Quote Yea this is just stupid. My wallet doesnt even go back far enough to look at the records. Its a game.. let us just have fun. Im at negative or -5mil and cant even buy a advanced basic medium suit for fun after putting SP into Minmatar med 3. I was kinda happy playing this game just sent sent you $100 for the elite package as a way of saying thanks..... then you take 58mil isk and im at negative 5mil. Its pointless and pathetic.

yoshi kat Trans Worlds Operations League of Infamy 0	Posted - 2013.05.30 18:50:00 - [281] - Quote minus 42 million god damnit what the **. give me bk my isk why i gotta pay for your god damn mistakes ************************* think think i mite leave this game and find a new one that dont make stupid mistakes minus 42.961.476 mil isk. im not happy at all
Brush Master HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 502	Posted - 2013.05.30 19:00:00 - [282] - Quote This response just upset me, https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=82780&find=unread I have to say [CCP]Frame wording used about the whole Isk is a bit upsetting to say the least. "ISK laundering" "punitive actions" entirely the wrong wording to use. This was CCP mistake not the players, even if a small fraction technically abused it and most knew something was up. You should not be attacking your player base for your mistakes. This hurts your new players, 500k double to 1 mill, they could have easily spent that and not known. Not everyone reads these forums and should have been given some thought before all this. It took 2 days? no notification? the vets easily knew something was up but I feel your shooting yourselves in the foot when things like this role around. Every time you fail to communicate this turns into a PR nightmare, fix it and fix it quickly.
yoshi kat Trans Worlds Operations League of Infamy 0	Posted - 2013.05.30 19:11:00 - [283] - Quote yoshi kat wrote: minus 42 million god damnit what the **. give me bk my isk why i gotta pay for your god damn mistakes ************************* think think i mite leave this game and find a new one that dont make stupid mistakes minus 42.961.476 mil isk. im not happy at all p.s at least give me back my asset money
yoshi kat Trans Worlds Operations League of Infamy 0	Posted - 2013.05.30 19:12:00 - [284] - Quote semperfi1999 wrote: cSRT4 wrote: Looks like a lot of people are gonna have to stop being try-hards and run what they can truly afford. LMMFAO at all they newbs to the world of money. If a bank accidentally deposits money into your account (we're talking REAL WORLD HERE), when they find their mistake, which THEY WILL FIND IT, they take it back. So, let's say you go to the ATM, pull out $20 and see that your account shows $100,000 instead of $1,000, do you go buy a new car? NO! They're coming back to get their money. IT'S NOT YOURS! YOU KNOW IT! JUST STOP IT PEOPLE! Play within your means. Still SMH (AND ROFLMMFAO) The ppl who spent more than they had and spent the bugged money diserve what they got. The people who did not spend the bugged isk because they knew about it and then they lost not just the bugged isk but also the isk they should have had anyway.......and not just that but were put deep into the red because of CCPs inability to do math. They have a legitimate complaint. So basically you made yourself look like an idiot with this statement as there are a ton of ppl who had their isk completely taken away by CCP including everyhting they legitimately earned. this ant real life its a game
SuperKing BigNuts Contract Hunters 67	Posted - 2013.05.30 19:52:00 - [285] - Quote bummer... was really hoping to get my respec before they took this isk back... i had intended to put myself negative just to make myself not buy stupid and useless shinies that i dont need to...
semperfi1999 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 474	Posted - 2013.05.30 19:52:00 - [286] - Quote cSRT4 wrote: semperfi1999 wrote: cSRT4 wrote: Looks like a lot of people are gonna have to stop being try-hards and run what they can truly afford. LMMFAO at all they newbs to the world of money. If a bank accidentally deposits money into your account (we're talking REAL WORLD HERE), when they find their mistake, which THEY WILL FIND IT, they take it back. So, let's say you go to the ATM, pull out $20 and see that your account shows $100,000 instead of $1,000, do you go buy a new car? NO! They're coming back to get their money. IT'S NOT YOURS! YOU KNOW IT! JUST STOP IT PEOPLE! Play within your means. Still SMH (AND ROFLMMFAO) The ppl who spent more than they had and spent the bugged money diserve what they got. The people who did not spend the bugged isk because they knew about it and then they lost not just the bugged isk but also the isk they should have had anyway.......and not just that but were put deep into the red because of CCPs inability to do math. They have a legitimate complaint. So basically you made yourself look like an idiot with this statement as there are a ton of ppl who had their isk completely taken away by CCP including everyhting they legitimately earned. QQ. Sounds like you need a tissue (and an accountant). Boohoo for you. ROFLMAO AT YOU!!! HAHAHAHAHA Your apparent lack of reading comprehension is astounding. Let me make this clearer. CCP took more money from alot of people then they accidentally gave with the bugged isk. The highest amount I have heard so far is CCP taking an additional 500 million isk over what they accidentally gave in the bug. This amount woudl make almost anyone go isk negative. Personally I am fine and probably have better isk handling mangement than you do....however I also have not had a chance to see if CCP has actually taken away more isk than what I was given so it remains to be seen if CCP took additonal millions from me.
Guyve III The Merc Net 2	Posted - 2013.05.30 20:05:00 - [287] - Quote Guyve III wrote: guyve III need my isk back I was over took 20+ million from me. and now delete my post about in tech support over the issue
SuperKing BigNuts Contract Hunters 67	Posted - 2013.05.30 20:08:00 - [288] - Quote semperfi1999 wrote: cSRT4 wrote: semperfi1999 wrote: cSRT4 wrote: Looks like a lot of people are gonna have to stop being try-hards and run what they can truly afford. LMMFAO at all they newbs to the world of money. If a bank accidentally deposits money into your account (we're talking REAL WORLD HERE), when they find their mistake, which THEY WILL FIND IT, they take it back. So, let's say you go to the ATM, pull out $20 and see that your account shows $100,000 instead of $1,000, do you go buy a new car? NO! They're coming back to get their money. IT'S NOT YOURS! YOU KNOW IT! JUST STOP IT PEOPLE! Play within your means. Still SMH (AND ROFLMMFAO) The ppl who spent more than they had and spent the bugged money diserve what they got. The people who did not spend the bugged isk because they knew about it and then they lost not just the bugged isk but also the isk they should have had anyway.......and not just that but were put deep into the red because of CCPs inability to do math. They have a legitimate complaint. So basically you made yourself look like an idiot with this statement as there are a ton of ppl who had their isk completely taken away by CCP including everyhting they legitimately earned. QQ. Sounds like you need a tissue (and an accountant). Boohoo for you. ROFLMAO AT YOU!!! HAHAHAHAHA Your apparent lack of reading comprehension is astounding. Let me make this clearer. CCP took more money from alot of people then they accidentally gave with the bugged isk. The highest amount I have heard so far is CCP taking an additional 500 million isk over what they accidentally gave in the bug. This amount woudl make almost anyone go isk negative. Personally I am fine and probably have better isk handling mangement than you do....however I also have not had a chance to see if CCP has actually taken away more isk than what I was given so it remains to be seen if CCP took additonal millions from me. i see 2x modify isk entries in my wallet, one that counter acted the hotfix on the 28th, for + 5.535.400ISK and the second one to correct the downtime error on the 28th of -161.784.805ISK. these numbers are accurate to within a reasonable doubt, and logged on personal documentation of how much isk i shouldnt spend. for those saying they thought this was an 'event' ... shame on you... they havent given isk as a reward to this degree at all that i am aware of. it always comes as items or equipment that you have to assign at login screen. the only time anybody should have gotten this much isk was when they did the market buyback with uprising launch, but common sense dictated that since i STILL had all my assets, they obviously didnt do a market buy back and the isk was in error. checked the wallet and it reflected no gains, also another red flag. anyone arguing that they deserved this isk, or that CCP should bite the bullet on this FEATURE is cancer on this community. a game where death is supposed to have meaning, and you want to do away with that for the sake of your protospam. why dont you just petition for them to make PROTO BPOs and have them cost 48ISK each so that everyone can afford them? then everyone everywhere will be full proto all the time and the wallet value will continue to be what you want, completely irrelevant to the game. as i had stated, i had planed to use my erroneous isk, but i also planned to accept and even utilize the penalties in a fashion i felt to be beneficial for my own playstyle. preventing me from throwing isk away in silly fashions for a nice long while. i would have spent future isk on exclusively what i could use now, and would force my core skills(both SP and player) to improve rather than trying to over expand.
DARK WOLF 1 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 3	Posted - 2013.05.30 20:29:00 - [289] - Quote yoshi kat wrote: minus 42 million god damnit what the **. give me bk my isk why i gotta pay for your god damn mistakes ************************* think think i mite leave this game and find a new one that dont make stupid mistakes minus 42.961.476 mil isk. im not happy at all minus 18.000.000 mil isk why!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 45	Posted - 2013.05.30 20:50:00 - [290] - Quote DARK WOLF 1 wrote: yoshi kat wrote: minus 42 million god damnit what the **. give me bk my isk why i gotta pay for your god damn mistakes ************************* think think i mite leave this game and find a new one that dont make stupid mistakes minus 42.961.476 mil isk. im not happy at all minus 18.000.000 mil isk why!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How did you make 18,000,000,000,000 ISK?!?!!?

Delow22 G.U.T.Z Alpha Wolf Pack 0	Posted - 2013.05.30 21:11:00 - [291] - Quote I understand where those are coming from when they say "you spent isk that wasn't yours." My question is how can you know the difference when before you get the respec you have only a few mill isk,then when you get the respec you have a lot more isk right?how is that our fault? theres no way for us to be able to tell how much isk we were getting from the respec in order to do the math to see for ourselves that somethings wrong here. were not to blame for this,therefore we shouldnt be punished for it.CCP get your stuff together soon or a lot of people will be quitting your game..theres no profit to be made if no ones on!!
Sleever 44 The Red Guards EoN. 4	Posted - 2013.05.30 21:21:00 - [292] - Quote all i know is this im not in the red by a far shot!!! but i did recieve 2 in game messages saying to reset in game client to resolve the issue, i did what i was told to do and the isk balance reamained the same. I then figured that it was resolved and that it must have been correct,,,so i spent a little more. I logg on today to see a large amount of isk has been takin....gues my point is dont say its been fixed and that if you reset your game that this will resolve any further problems down the road, then 2 days later take isk from people and not expect negative feed back.
Cannibus Lecktor Stoned Kloned Killers 0	Posted - 2013.05.30 21:33:00 - [293] - Quote I do believe CCP needs to get their SH & IT and put it together.. **** poor communication on their part is what this all boils down to.. These people took over 37 mil from our corp CEO that he wasnt given. Battlefield 4 is looking like a better option at this point, just hafta wait for it.. At least they know how to properly develop an MMO..
N7 STEVE D3LTA ACADEMY 0	Posted - 2013.05.30 22:04:00 - [294] - Quote So because of a mistake you guys did WE are getting punished for it? That's just plain stupid. Because of the mistake YOU guys made I OWE 3 million ISK. & I can't restock anything because of this ISK I OWE. How in the hell I'm I suppose to get 3 million ISK from???!! YOU guys seriously need to fix this. I have 2 million skill points on this character and I'm NOT planning on making a new one and staring all over again. so FIX this PlEASE!
SuperKing BigNuts Contract Hunters 72	Posted - 2013.05.30 22:07:00 - [295] - Quote i nthink that what has been a mis-management of informations has been that there are almost no in game notifications of wtf is going on... 'most' EVE Online players have a computer of somesort... i hope... and can quickly and easily access the forums, or the eve main page, and quickly figure things out for themselves when information is provided... contrarily, not all DUST mercs have convenient access to a computer, and the only access some have to the forums, or dev blogs is by logging out of DUST to use the ps3 browser, or tab to the second page on the login screen rather than just spam the X Button to get to the murdering... some sort of message board needs to be in game, maybe not use the mail system, CPP accounts will probably start spamming, but something that players can access the 'important' information like wtf has been going on since the 28th at downtime. not to mention better transparency on things like the respec batches would prevent a lot of us blowing up forums and petition systems because we have no idea whats going on.
cSRT4 SyNergy Gaming EoN. 6	Posted - 2013.05.30 22:37:00 - [296] - Quote Look crybabies, they took OVER 281 MILLION I$K from me last night. I ain't cryin. Why? Cuz I knew it was a mistake. The big ass pop-up window (IN GAME, not the forums) 2 days in a row told me so. I don't try hard and didn't start when I saw this magical ISK appear. You all had to know something was up. Those that got a Skill Reset the same day, you I will excuse. The ones that didn't get the ISK fix AND the Skill Reset the same day, sorry Charlie. :sniffles :sniffles However, if CCP is reading this post, you better not give these clowns back any ISK. If you do, I want my 280 million ISK and another of my Corp-mates wants his 240 million ISK back too. We're both still positive. Wayyyy positive but if you give the clowns back ISK, we want ours too. You are gonna be opening a big ol' can o' worms if you give anybody back any ISK. STILL ROFLMMFAO
Henry-the-8th Commando Perkone Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.05.30 23:48:00 - [297] - Quote Putting people into a negative balance will just make people lose interest in the game. I'm negative 5 million ISK, which is like 25-30 AmbushGÇÖs to get back to positive, but for these people who have been set to negative 100 million+ is ridiculous and those are the people who are more likely to stop playing. Ok, I get your reasoning behind taking ISK away from people but maybe going about setting to negative was very harsh and setting the mercs in questionGÇÖs wallets to ZERO ISK may of been a better decision; this would have also stopped a lot of the hate, tears and mostly likely a lot of people quitting. Keep up the good work CCP P.S. When is my Fighter Bomber going to be released?
Doc Noah Algintal Core Gallente Federation 67	Posted - 2013.05.31 00:02:00 - [298] - Quote Henry-the-8th wrote: Ok, I get your reasoning behind taking ISK away from people but maybe going about setting to negative was very harsh and setting the mercs in questionGÇÖs wallets to ZERO ISK may of been a better decision; this would have also stopped a lot of the hate, tears and mostly likely a lot of people quitting. Keep up the good work CCP Except some people spent/donated their entire savings meaning CCP could only get back 0 ISK. What they did was fair. Theres still the option to petition an asset reversal which is more than generous considering those who quickly spent their money, did so in greed.
Henry-the-8th Commando Perkone Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.05.31 00:10:00 - [299] - Quote Doc Noah wrote: Henry-the-8th wrote: Ok, I get your reasoning behind taking ISK away from people but maybe going about setting to negative was very harsh and setting the mercs in questionGÇÖs wallets to ZERO ISK may of been a better decision; this would have also stopped a lot of the hate, tears and mostly likely a lot of people quitting. Keep up the good work CCP Except some people spent/donated their entire savings meaning CCP could only get back 0 ISK. What they did was fair. Theres still the option to petition an asset reversal which is more than generous considering those who quickly spent their money, did so in greed. Ok for those people then I totally agreement with CCP, they obviously knew about the bug and tried to exploit it. I'm generally talking about some of the people that generally did not know about what was going on and may of bought 100 units of Duvolle TAC (7 million right there) and so on.
UnrealKills The dyst0pian Corporation 1	Posted - 2013.05.31 00:10:00 - [300] - Quote why they would give us a respec of skill points and not isk makes no sense at all. here take your millions of sp and you can't even afford the books to unlock things. i even lost the isk i had before respec. thank ccp sure you will lose alot of players over this matter! you all made a mistake and now we have to suffer from it. i think you should at least put those of us who got respects back to even instead of negative. you gave no warning that respect would not include isk. and everyone else if you have this problem or agree, please speak up . they cant fix issues and keep loyal people without us letting them know our feedback and then fixing the problem!



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