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GM Grave
Game Masters
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.28 13:49:00 -
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We are aware of issues regarding user skills and ISK as of downtime today the 28th of May. We are working to resolve these issues as soon as possible. On behalf of the DUST 514 team please accept our sincere apologies for any inconvenience this may have caused.
Please note that users and corporations affected by skill or ISK issues should refrain from spending extra ISK or SP as such gains/losses are subject to reversal and may in extreme cases lead to a negative balance based on player actions.
[ Lead GM Grave | Project Lead | CCP Customer Relations | EVE Online | DUST 514 ] |
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CLAYTON84
Not Guilty
EoN.
7
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Posted - 2013.05.28 14:20:00 -
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wow you mean to tell me that I may be negative because of someone else mistake. I already spent a lot of that money before a friend said check the forums they said they are taking the money back. How was I to know that you guys made a mistake, not mad that you did I just think you guys should take this one on the cheek and learn from mistakes. I really don't see how you would justify making countless people go negative in ISK due to something they had no control over please reconsider this option. Thanks for you time. |
Roy Xkillerz
Red Star.
EoN.
21
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Posted - 2013.05.28 14:22:00 -
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Compared to the eve market most people will not have over a few hunderd mil isk. Can't hurt that much? |
SuperKing BigNuts
Contract Hunters
26
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Posted - 2013.05.28 14:27:00 -
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well, the sudden appearance of 100m isk that you didnt earn, and subsequently spent isnt really punishment, you simply wont be able to buy anything else until you can get back to a positive balance.
i have had experience with negative wallet balance before, it can be frustrating, but not the end of the world, especially in a case such as this where you admitted to having spent it.
if you were to have logged in and your wallet was to be negative due to their error, you would rage at them and demand a reimbursement to get back to positive... yet expect to be able to spend the excessive unearned isk as if it were your own.
earn the isk you have spent to get back positive seems fair to me. but i also had 153m before the *feature* was released, and dont see how i could have spent the additional 160m ontop of that to end up negative anyways |
Nebra Tene
Roaming Blades
2
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Posted - 2013.05.28 14:28:00 -
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CLAYTON84 wrote:wow you mean to tell me that I may be negative because of someone else mistake. I already spent a lot of that money before a friend said check the forums they said they are taking the money back. How was I to know that you guys made a mistake, not mad that you did I just think you guys should take this one on the cheek and learn from mistakes. I really don't see how you would justify making countless people go negative in ISK due to something they had no control over please reconsider this option. Thanks for you time.
That's like saying "Oh I found briefcase full of money, I didn't know it was stolen so I spent it, now I have to pay for it?"
I understand many people wil be exited to have the random Isk boost, but should know its not normal and may be an error/ glitch and check around before spending all of it.
Exploiting bugs and glitches like these rarely ends up well.
Instead of being greedy and spending it all right away, you could have simply waited a couple of hours to see or ask around if it was something that was intended to happen, or if there would be repercussions for spending it.
@CCP:
Just to be sure, I can spend Isk normally as long as I don't spend more than what I used to have, correct? |
Judy Maat
Rebelles A Quebec
Orion Empire
36
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Posted - 2013.05.28 14:28:00 -
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yeah since there is no player driven market yet
an apology and just letting us go with the isk would be great..
having mistakes like this happening still prove this game is in "perpetual beta" still.. |
Katius Maximus
Red Star.
EoN.
19
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Posted - 2013.05.28 14:42:00 -
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Thanks CCP now i will be -100mil ISK ,donated it to my corp.If ccp are going to take this ISK back they can take it from my corp wallet.Im sure they have the records to see i donated that money and take the appropriate action.
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Illuminaughty-696
Galere Omega Battle Services
267
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Posted - 2013.05.28 14:51:00 -
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You kind of have to expect this from CCP now. Welcome to the DUST Beta 2.0. Glad I haven't been playing all that much. |
SuperKing BigNuts
Contract Hunters
26
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Posted - 2013.05.28 14:52:00 -
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or you could donate 100m to your corp and earn back the isk you spent on your own. is much easier for them to make an individual go negative than attempt to track what isk went where.
if being negative is going to be a problem for you katius, you might want to ask your corp directors/ceo to return the isk, im sure they have records of the transaction |
Che Cortez
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.05.28 14:56:00 -
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Katius Maximus wrote:Thanks CCP now i will be -100mil ISK ,donated it to my corp.If ccp are going to take this ISK back they can take it from my corp wallet.Im sure they have the records to see i donated that money and take the appropriate action.
Why not just talk to your directors/ceo and get them to reimburse you? |
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Clavain Vegas
Pokerchip Surveillance
0
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Posted - 2013.05.28 14:58:00 -
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Its the extra SP that he mentioned thats got me thinking. 
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jenza aranda
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
1634
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Posted - 2013.05.28 15:05:00 -
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logically you really should have noticed that something went wrong. there is no such thing as a free meal. |
IRuby Heart
DIOS EX.
Gentlemen's Agreement
712
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Posted - 2013.05.28 15:05:00 -
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Hell no CCP, You can take your isk back if you have to but at the cost of having all of those who DID spend their cash or donate already be negatively impacted is a huge no go!
If you can't figure out a way to prevent that negative wallet balance or properly revert everyone's wallets back to pre-downtime values, then you need to call it a loss and let everyone keep the ISK. I doubt an extra 100 million ISK is a gamebreaker... |
Rhorian Darkstar
Dark Force Katana
General Tso's Alliance
42
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Posted - 2013.05.28 15:07:00 -
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I got my respected and had my items reset do I get to keep the 32 mil o got or am going to get screw over? |
Dexter Peabody
GoonFeet
56
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Posted - 2013.05.28 15:09:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:logically you really should have noticed that something went wrong. there is no such thing as a free meal. then how did the cavemen survive huh
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Doc Noah
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
34
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Posted - 2013.05.28 15:12:00 -
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You knew with full knowledge that the sudden ISK boost was illegitimate and yet you took advantage of it while looking the other way. You reap what you sow.
And technically you didnt lose anything, you still got equipment/gear you paid for with your own money. The money you spent on corp still goes to your corp, if you want you can ask for it back.
Dexter Peabody wrote:then how did the cavemen survive huh
By doing Geico commercials. |
JX1
GoonFeet
38
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Posted - 2013.05.28 15:13:00 -
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Joe Random is an average guy, average job, average house, average wife and family. One day he finds that his bank balance shows seven digits from one deposit he did not ask for and cannot trace. Joe Random spends the money, then gets grumpy when the bank takes it back, putting his account into negative. Joe Random is not bright.
Bobby Business in the same situation decides to alert the bank of the mistake, but goes about paying his bills, making note to stay within his normal budgetary limits. Bobby Business is smart.
Don't be a Joe Random. |
Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
56
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Posted - 2013.05.28 15:14:00 -
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Dexter Peabody wrote:jenza aranda wrote:logically you really should have noticed that something went wrong. there is no such thing as a free meal. then how did the cavemen survive huh
The same way we play dust unless we want to show support |
Katius Maximus
Red Star.
EoN.
19
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Posted - 2013.05.28 15:15:00 -
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SuperKing BigNuts wrote:or you could donate 100m to your corp and earn back the isk you spent on your own. is much easier for them to make an individual go negative than attempt to track what isk went where.
if being negative is going to be a problem for you katius, you might want to ask your corp directors/ceo to return the isk, im sure they have records of the transaction
why should i jump through hoops to try to make it easier for CCP to fix THEIR mistake.i thought that ISK was for a ASSETS wipe or they had changed the denomination of the ISK like they have done with the AURUM before.it wasnt untill i checked my assets and wallet i reliased something was wrong by then it was too late the money was already donated.
Che Cortez wrote:Why not just talk to your directors/ceo and get them to reimburse you?
i could but why should i it is CCP's mistake not mine |
Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
56
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Posted - 2013.05.28 15:17:00 -
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JX1 wrote:Joe Random is an average guy, average job, average house, average wife and family. One day he finds that his bank balance shows seven digits from one deposit he did not ask for and cannot trace. Joe Random spends the money, then gets grumpy when the bank takes it back, putting his account into negative. Joe Random is not bright.
Bobby Business in the same situation decides to alert the bank of the mistake, but goes about paying his bills, making note to stay within his normal budgetary limits. Bobby Business is smart.
Don't be a Joe Random.
Actually Bobby Business takes that money, invests it and makes a crap load of money and only gives back a portion because he has friends at CCP or he gives them free stuff.  |
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SuperKing BigNuts
Contract Hunters
27
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Posted - 2013.05.28 15:19:00 -
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put isk into my wallet, and ill send it back TRIPLED! *legit* #notascam
amidoinitrite? |
Charlotte O'Dell
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
342
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Posted - 2013.05.28 15:19:00 -
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Judy Maat wrote:yeah since there is no player driven market yet
an apology and just letting us go with the isk would be great..
having mistakes like this happening still prove this game is in "perpetual beta" still..
As much as this sucks, its necessary, as not everyone got the same amount. Some people have ZERO isk and other have literally billions. it has to be reversed bc it isn't putting people on fair grounds, and it is, after all, a game. |
IRuby Heart
DIOS EX.
Gentlemen's Agreement
712
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Posted - 2013.05.28 15:27:00 -
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Doc Noah wrote:You knew with full knowledge that the sudden ISK boost was illegitimate and yet you took advantage of it while looking the other way. You reap what you sow. And technically you didnt lose anything, you still got equipment/gear you paid for with your own money. The money you spent on corp still goes to your corp, if you want you can ask for it back. Dexter Peabody wrote:then how did the cavemen survive huh
By doing Geico commercials.
How would anyone know it was illegitimate? CCP does a respec over night you log on and find an extra 100 million ISK in your wallet.
"Ok cool, I must've been reimbursed for something they took out."
Is the the first thought that crosses everyone's mind who doesn't follow this forum.
Not, CCP does a respec over night you log on and find an extra 100 million ISK in your wallet.
" OH SH!T CCP F#CKED UP, I SHOULD AVOID SPENDING ANY ISK BECAUSE MY WALLET MIGHT GET RESET TO ZERO!!"
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Dexter Peabody
GoonFeet
56
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Posted - 2013.05.28 15:30:00 -
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nbd i woke up with a billion isk and decided to splurge on 300 prototanks |
Obodiah Garro
Tech Guard
General Tso's Alliance
39
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Posted - 2013.05.28 15:32:00 -
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People who go in the negative over this should have their characters deleted for being greedy bastards |
Abu Stij
GoonFeet
121
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Posted - 2013.05.28 15:32:00 -
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Meet CCP, twenty years old.
Fed up with life and the way things are going,
They decide to give out a respec.
("I can't take this no more, I can't take it no more homes")
But on its way out, they has a sudden change of heart.
And suddenly, their conscience comes into play...
("**** is mine, I gotta do this.. gotta do this") |
A'Real Fury
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
74
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Posted - 2013.05.28 15:35:00 -
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Not worried about the Isk issue as I didn't spend any of it. However, I would be concerned about the SP I have already spent and the SP I have made through battles today.
So take the Isk if you must however if I lose the SP I have spent on skills or the SP I have earned through battles today then I will be pretty dam**d annoyed with a wasted day trying to reach the Weekly SP cap.
And what about the people who planned out there toon using the fitting tool and have already spent all their SP? |
itsmellslikefish
DIOS X. II
6
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Posted - 2013.05.28 15:36:00 -
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Its only fair that we have to give the isk back. but thats just my op onion. |
SuperKing BigNuts
Contract Hunters
27
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Posted - 2013.05.28 15:36:00 -
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Obodiah Garro wrote:People who go in the negative over this should have their characters deleted for being greedy bastards
'A' for effort in your attempt to be a bitter vet
so ive had a negative wallet before, my accounts should probably be deleted too. id give details as to why but ill just go /wrists my characters and biomass the lot of them now for being bad at life |
Deadeye Dic
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
81
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Posted - 2013.05.28 15:37:00 -
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I posted this in the other thread as well, but wanted to post here as well, just in case it matters.
Starting to think I wished I'd found this thread BEFORE I spent my SP and ISK this morning.
However, I did ask for a Respec and I got that Respec and had just over 67 Mil ISK afterwards. Although, I still had all my suits and equipment on those suits. In fact, the fitting screen just showed that I was lacking the skills to wear the suit. |
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