Lmfao too damn true....actually, you know what...even that is a lie....I don't think I've ever once seen a dropship spin out of control and crash in the game; they always just burn, roll to the side slightly, and nose dive into the ground >_<

So yea, even CCPs own videos lie about dropships lmfao, good find hahaha

Well, I give them a bit of poetic license. They also show RDV's hot dropping a column of tanks to heavy music when the reality would be one guy looking up as an RDV slams his toy into a building and plays keep-away to the tune of the Sugar Plum Faires.

It just doesn't make you want to rush to play in the same way.

What do all those EVE players say, dont fly what you cant afford to lose right?
Besides with the ceiling as high as it is you can fly up out of range easily and hide your shiny toy in the sky

I swear to god everyone that pilots a vehicle in this game is near constantly calling for infantry to rendered useless against them
Anti vehicle stuff exists, deal with it, and you dont see real world pilots going "Waaaah, RPGS designed in the 70s are still a threat to us, tell the enemy commander he needs to nerf his soldiers weapons so we cant be shot down"

I've said it before, and I'll say it again:

Forge guns will be 100% fine once they get "infinite" range with falloff damage, so long as their optimal range is tweaked back a bit. That makes disengaging and gaining altitude an actual viable tactic vs the forge gun, allowing you to mitigate damage by putting distance between you. It also rewards smart forge gunners who wait for the ship to get close and level out before opening fire.

What do all those EVE players say, dont fly what you cant afford to lose right?
Besides with the ceiling as high as it is you can fly up out of range easily and hide your shiny toy in the sky

I swear to god everyone that pilots a vehicle in this game is near constantly calling for infantry to rendered useless against them
Anti vehicle stuff exists, deal with it, and you dont see real world pilots going "Waaaah, RPGS designed in the 70s are still a threat to us, tell the enemy commander he needs to nerf his soldiers weapons so we cant be shot down"

In Dust we just say, "Don't fly."

I've said it before, and I'll say it again:

Forge guns will be 100% fine once they get "infinite" range with falloff damage, so long as their optimal range is tweaked back a bit. That makes disengaging and gaining altitude an actual viable tactic vs the forge gun, allowing you to mitigate damage by putting distance between you. It also rewards smart forge gunners who wait for the ship to get close and level out before opening fire.

Forge guns can be used against infantry, it's s OHK weapon on them, but then you have to be pretty good to hit infantry with them. Their high damage negates light shield boosters by an incredible extent. And the sp required to get a good vehicle fit far outweighs how much is needed to max out forge gun skills. Oh and their much cheaper than dropships too, by a huge factor. Just some facts to take into account whe talking about forge guns and dropships.

Arguably more important yet, is that the gameplay between the two isn't particularly enjoyable or engaging. As a dropship pilot it rarely feels as if you're going down because you were outplayed, you generally feel somewhat helpless and ineffectual. On the other side, forge gun feels so powerful it's boring to use. You just wait for the pilot to slow down and try to actually do something and then you blindside them out of the sky.

Hi guys, let me provide you guys with provide some feedback on this topic.

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5. Lastly, we're aware of turret issues that have come up. Many of the improvements needed will require code support to fix lingering bugs as well as further flesh out existing systems. We are currently working on this as our next set of code fixes.

Hi guys, let me provide you guys with provide some feedback on this topic.

1. We are looking at doing re-balancing of our AV weapons. One of the topics, which also seems to be showing through on this thread is to keep a decently long enough range on the forge gun, but also look at the damage decay variable over time on it, optimal ranges, etc. Because agreed, that it is a very potent anti-vehicle weapon and it's not exactly something that is easily countered with countermeasures (see next point). We also don't want the forge gun to be nerfed to the point of feeling ineffective, so a direct reduction of damage output across the board is not going to be the simple answer there.

2. We are also want to get countermeasures in soon, as well as a lock-on warning system for players piloting vehicles that have been locked on to. The lock-on indication will be a graduated indicator so that you will have a decent idea of how imminent your time to impact is and can choose to act accordingly. Furthermore, we're also working on porting lock-on to a certain subset of turrets. This will come in helpful for dropship pilots who are engaged in dogfights, or supporting assaults against ground units.

3. As one of our immediate tasks, we want to look at how we can provide dropship pilots with more chances to earn WP. We have lots of ideas in mind, however we need to tread carefully on this one so that we're not opening up too many opportunities for exploit. Some of the ideas that are bouncing around are providing WP for players spawned into your craft, WP for use of active scanners (possibly more specialized ones), and finding a way to re-introduce WP for remote repairs without exploit.

4. We will be reducing the ISK cost of dropships so that players can get into them more easily, while also looking at the overall skill cost of this class of vehicle.

5. Lastly, we're aware of turret issues that have come up. Many of the improvements needed will require code support to fix lingering bugs as well as further flesh out existing systems. We are currently working on this as our next set of code fixes.

Hi guys, let me provide you guys with provide some feedback on this topic.

1. We are looking at doing re-balancing of our AV weapons. One of the topics, which also seems to be showing through on this thread is to keep a decently long enough range on the forge gun, but also look at the damage decay variable over time on it, optimal ranges, etc. Because agreed, that it is a very potent anti-vehicle weapon and it's not exactly something that is easily countered with countermeasures (see next point). We also don't want the forge gun to be nerfed to the point of feeling ineffective, so a direct reduction of damage output across the board is not going to be the simple answer there.

Hi guys, let me provide you guys with provide some feedback on this topic.

1. We are looking at doing re-balancing of our AV weapons. One of the topics, which also seems to be showing through on this thread is to keep a decently long enough range on the forge gun, but also look at the damage decay variable over time on it, optimal ranges, etc. Because agreed, that it is a very potent anti-vehicle weapon and it's not exactly something that is easily countered with countermeasures (see next point). We also don't want the forge gun to be nerfed to the point of feeling ineffective, so a direct reduction of damage output across the board is not going to be the simple answer there.

Our dropship pilot makes money in pub matches, of course he always makes sure he has 2 gunners. That and he makes sure to fly intelligently and not only watch his shield/armor but the shield/armor of his gunners. Yes forge guns and swarm launchers hit hard but as long as you pay attention you will do great.

Hi guys, let me provide you guys with provide some feedback on this topic.

1. We are looking at doing re-balancing of our AV weapons. One of the topics, which also seems to be showing through on this thread is to keep a decently long enough range on the forge gun, but also look at the damage decay variable over time on it, optimal ranges, etc. Because agreed, that it is a very potent anti-vehicle weapon and it's not exactly something that is easily countered with countermeasures (see next point). We also don't want the forge gun to be nerfed to the point of feeling ineffective, so a direct reduction of damage output across the board is not going to be the simple answer there.

2. We are also want to get countermeasures in soon, as well as a lock-on warning system for players piloting vehicles that have been locked on to. The lock-on indication will be a graduated indicator so that you will have a decent idea of how imminent your time to impact is and can choose to act accordingly. Furthermore, we're also working on porting lock-on to a certain subset of turrets. This will come in helpful for dropship pilots who are engaged in dogfights, or supporting assaults against ground units.

3. As one of our immediate tasks, we want to look at how we can provide dropship pilots with more chances to earn WP. We have lots of ideas in mind, however we need to tread carefully on this one so that we're not opening up too many opportunities for exploit. Some of the ideas that are bouncing around are providing WP for players spawned into your craft, WP for use of active scanners (possibly more specialized ones), and finding a way to re-introduce WP for remote repairs without exploit.

4. We will be reducing the ISK cost of dropships so that players can get into them more easily, while also looking at the overall skill cost of this class of vehicle.

5. Lastly, we're aware of turret issues that have come up. Many of the improvements needed will require code support to fix lingering bugs as well as further flesh out existing systems. We are currently working on this as our next set of code fixes.