If you want a CPM who might listen to any of this,

Look at this thread. Guy has his skype info. Add him and lets get a conversation going. Perhaps even a conference sometime later?



https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=73078

Look overall in terms of flying the dropship and losing them has changed rather vastly, Controls are different, if you where very good in chomosome then I apologize but some of your mind set on flying does need to adjust to the newer controls and work from there.

In an overall state of dropship as both pilot and destroyer, I am finding them far more fun than frustrating to fly and a challenge to shoot down now.

This topic needs to stew a bit, people get used to the new controls and figure out what is new and isn't new.

I am very proud to see people wanting to gun in my dropships again and trying to use it help in transporting from spot a to b, their survivability is vastly superior to chromosome's, mistakes far more forgiving as well.

As for warpoints its a bigger than dropship problem it is a game wide problem that calls for its own topic just about.

I secretly cheered on the inside after seeing an assault drop-ship take out a tank.

Please stop bumping this thread guys. If you don't have anything constructive to say, please kindly sit back and let this thread die.

Very few want dropships to be addressed more than me, specifically for newer players; as well as future players and future vehicle platforms. As far as vehicles go, HAVs have had the spotlight basically the entire beta. LAVs have just kind of been there, not overly good, not overly bad. And then there have been dropships; the gimpy third leg of the vehicle trifecta.

They fly, they can do stuff, but they can't be sustained financially alone, and they also severely hinder the players SP gains. Unlike LAVs, you can't just call in a free dropship. At absolute least you're spending what, 150k (games not on atm) for a bare bones hull of a militia dropship. If you're doing what a dropship should be doing, you WILL lose that ship. Period. The only way to be an effective pilot tactically is to use top end ships.

Giving us the assault dropship is great fun, but really, it's a tragedy because we're so close to release (is this still confirmed, release on 14th?). You dangle this cool (yet difficult and not overly effective, but still cool) dropship in front of new players, and tell them to skill into dropships, yet between the cost of learning to fly and the cost of skill books....where is all that ISK coming from? The LAV driver can drive a free LAV. The tank driver can actually tank, and still contribute from behind the redline. Dropships? No, you get out there or you're completely useless to your team.

You're providing overwatch, constantly relaying information to your team. Your performing areal drops under fire after you've done a pass to check for enemies, then repositioning to engage hostiles or moving to pick up more squad mates. You're performing extractions under fire, trying to dodge immensely simple to fire FREE railguns from deep behind the redline, no matter where you are. You're footing the bill of 500k for a garbage ship to 1 million + for a passable ship, all the while earning between 25 to 150k per match, with 80-120 being what you usually see. You're constantly babysitting your craft as you level off for your gunners, move out while under fire, constantly weave and bob to avoid forge guns and enemy dropships, all the while remaining completely aware of your surroundings as you hurtle around, trying to land for an extraction without smacking the planet.

And we get nothing. WP for pilots, as far as we can tell, isn't even on the table. It's not being discussed. It's not a primary concern.

How can new players become pilots?

I challenge you CCP.

How?

I've said it before, and I'll say it again:

Forge guns will be 100% fine once they get "infinite" range with falloff damage, so long as their optimal range is tweaked back a bit. That makes disengaging and gaining altitude an actual viable tactic vs the forge gun, allowing you to mitigate damage by putting distance between you. It also rewards smart forge gunners who wait for the ship to get close and level out before opening fire.