Well it's good to know that there are many corp leaders like you who support DS pilots enough to hire them and supply them money, my corporation does the same thing for me when we are in faction warfare, and eventually planetary conquest, but when even corp leaders recognize the important role that DS pilots have, you would expect that CCP do the same exact thing and reflect an acceptance of DS pilots as vital to the battle, and good ones worthy of monetary gain while playing the game, but pilots have been arguably the most ignored and abused out of any role or class in Dust, every single veteran pilot knows that this is true, and we all have statistics and experiences that back this up. We deserve to be recognized for the important role we play.

I had no idea this "Iron Sabre" guy was a player's rep, It's a shame to see that people can get promoted to such a rank, yet when those same people come across a vast and emminse discussion over technical issues in how the gameplay is lacking, and how it can be better improved, they post a 4 word sentence that they somehow think dismisses everything we have been saying on here. Some of the player-base on here seems to be a little... aggressive towards reasonable suggestions for change.

Couldnt you just donate to the pilot's corp and they pay him? Or he can put an alt in you corp and you pay the alt, that a little more work though.

All of CPM are ground guys. if you want any balance toward vehicles then your going to have to be loud and in CCP face about and have all the vehicle guys behind you the small number of us. vehicle testing need a brick ton more testing before uprising and not much else where why do you think that was for... CCP didn't really look at and just throw changes at it just like they are now. the TTK chart thing has to be the funniest part of it all, it just goes to show you they don't test vehicles in any way.

Very skilled and experienced pilot here:

In my opinion the biggest problem is that a completely decked out dropship(assualt logistics or standard) with all the modules and skills seems to be balanced ONLY when flown against militia/standard AV. Against AV at this level you will be denied your effectiveness around them yet still have an opportunity to do your job(troop transport, gunship, scout) for a few seconds before having to retreat. However, against proto AV you immediately have to retreat or your ship quickly becomes a burning wreck. Dropships NEED a big buff to shields/armor.

Very skilled and experienced pilot here:

In my opinion the biggest problem is that a completely decked out dropship(assualt logistics or standard) with all the modules and skills seems to be balanced ONLY when flown against militia/standard AV. Against AV at this level you will be denied your effectiveness around them yet still have an opportunity to do your job(troop transport, gunship, scout) for a few seconds before having to retreat. However, against proto AV you immediately have to retreat or your ship quickly becomes a burning wreck. Dropships NEED a big buff to shields/armor.

This is because the skills investment and modules effectiveness scales up far better than vehicles.

Compare militia AV to militia ships (lol av one shots anything)

From there on up the disparity only gets WORSE. AV need 10x less SP and 100x less ISK to effectively counter any vehicle that cost 10x more sp and 1000x more isk. So, wtf?

And lets not forget the people who call in a railgun tank, sit 100 meters behind the redline on a hill, and take potshots at us the entire time we are in the air. This also applys to the railgun/missle turrets that sit behind the redline where we cannot reach them.

If you want a CPM who might listen to any of this,

Look at this thread. Guy has his skype info. Add him and lets get a conversation going. Perhaps even a conference sometime later?



https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=73078

Very skilled and experienced pilot here:

In my opinion the biggest problem is that a completely decked out dropship(assualt logistics or standard) with all the modules and skills seems to be balanced ONLY when flown against militia/standard AV. Against AV at this level you will be denied your effectiveness around them yet still have an opportunity to do your job(troop transport, gunship, scout) for a few seconds before having to retreat. However, against proto AV you immediately have to retreat or your ship quickly becomes a burning wreck. Dropships NEED a big buff to shields/armor.

Yeah I laughed at missile turrets last build, now they're one of my biggest nightmares, they don't kill me but since they are almost always far back in the redline they can block such huge amounts of the map. And rail guns are even worse for it, and boasters are just bitches because they can aim so far.

And lets not forget the people who call in a railgun tank, sit 100 meters behind the redline on a hill, and take potshots at us the entire time we are in the air. This also applys to the railgun/missle turrets that sit behind the redline where we cannot reach them.

Bump

Look overall in terms of flying the dropship and losing them has changed rather vastly, Controls are different, if you where very good in chomosome then I apologize but some of your mind set on flying does need to adjust to the newer controls and work from there.

In an overall state of dropship as both pilot and destroyer, I am finding them far more fun than frustrating to fly and a challenge to shoot down now.

This topic needs to stew a bit, people get used to the new controls and figure out what is new and isn't new.

I am very proud to see people wanting to gun in my dropships again and trying to use it help in transporting from spot a to b, their survivability is vastly superior to chromosome's, mistakes far more forgiving as well.

As for warpoints its a bigger than dropship problem it is a game wide problem that calls for its own topic just about.

I secretly cheered on the inside after seeing an assault drop-ship take out a tank.