Thanks for explaining
However i can't agree with the cap of 5 mil. it's too much for me, a good player that have understood how this game works, can really rock on the battlefield, but i agree with your previous edit.

By the way our initial thought based on advice from the CPM is to use total war points not skill points. One the of the problems with skill points is you earn them passively, so if you roll an account and leave it inactive for a while you will eventually end up out of the academy without playing any battles. We feel that war points is a better indicator of actual game experience which also happens to scale with proficiency.

brilliant idea. newb up to 3 mil. matchmaking after 3mil sp based on k/d perhaps

By the way our initial thought based on advice from the CPM is to use total war points not skill points. One the of the problems with skill points is you earn them passively, so if you roll an account and leave it inactive for a while you will eventually end up out of the academy without playing any battles. We feel that war points is a better indicator of actual game experience which also happens to scale with proficiency.

By the way our initial thought based on advice from the CPM is to use total war points not skill points. One the of the problems with skill points is you earn them passively, so if you roll an account and leave it inactive for a while you will eventually end up out of the academy without playing any battles. We feel that war points is a better indicator of actual game experience which also happens to scale with proficiency.

Hardcore vets have upwards of 9 to 13+ million sp. Other vets have between 4 to 8 million. But I wouldn't prevent the newbies from joining the "hardcore" instant battle, because some vets have (or will make) alts and would still pub-stomp so ...

EDIT: Ah, war points instead of total sp is an excellent idea.

By the way our initial thought based on advice from the CPM is to use total war points not skill points. One the of the problems with skill points is you earn them passively, so if you roll an account and leave it inactive for a while you will eventually end up out of the academy without playing any battles. We feel that war points is a better indicator of actual game experience which also happens to scale with proficiency.

This may be a good place maybe to lift the SP cap for these battles only.
This way the new players can grind to the 5 million SP's quick if they choose to.

Lets speed up the process to get fresh meat into the real battle fields.

Filtering by warpoints does not stop someone from getting pubstomped by protos, however. A new player with a high level of skill can quickly aquire WPs, but they still will not have the proper gear to take on veteran players.

New players will not be presented with the existing instant battle queues however they can join a squad with veteran players and be pulled into other battles. Faction warfare and planetary conquest battles will also still be available to new players.

Glad to see ccp is thinking of the new people +1

I'm pretty sure new people will be a big theme of their next release. During the Dust keynote they talked about a kind of training room where you could test out equipment and gear somehow. Maybe as a kind of lead in to PvE mechanics? Then there will be a arena/battle/gladiator mode where you can fight for glory rather than loyalty or profit. They could be a kind of ranked match type of deal possibly.

What would be an interesting way to get new players a bit of extra SP and the chance to try out new equipment is if you combined these things together through some training scenarios. If you complete the scenarios you could get an extra 50k SP (or something significant) not counting toward your cap. But you would get gear you wouldn't normally.

So you could get in a Hybrid Turret HAV training scenario in week 1. If you can drive around and shoot and destroy 5 turrets (with hostile AI) and not die in under 5 minutes then you get 50k sp, and a little isk payout. Then you could try an swarm launcher scenario, a stealth/nova-knife or shotgun one, etc. I could see the training room as a nice easy way to battle test drone AI for PvE.

I think you should make a squadless option for solo players - new or old, but not mandatory. As you progress and join corps/friends, you'll migrate to the squads.

Seems easier to balance that way, but I dunno. Just a thought.

I could see a few issues here: 1 what stops a vet from rolling alts to grief the academy? 2 some players need longer to learn how to play than others. so how to you account for this? 3 is it really a good idea to segregate the new players then suddenly throw them to the bunnies?

While I agree there needs to be a much better way to teach people how to play this game, seperating them off by themselves in special battles is not an ideal way to do it.

I could see a few issues here: 1 what stops a vet from rolling alts to grief the academy? 2 some players need longer to learn how to play than others. so how to you account for this? 3 is it really a good idea to segregate the new players then suddenly throw them to the bunnies?

While I agree there needs to be a much better way to teach people how to play this game, seperating them off by themselves in special battles is not an ideal way to do it.