From what I can see from the video. To run a prototype dropsuit like the one you have now will still take the same amount of training. The drop suits we have now are not role based, just frames. Those appear to be turning in to the basic drop suits.

See how under Light, it has Basic and Scout. Under Medium it has Basic, Assault and Logistic.

To use a gallant basic light dropsuit would require

Dropsuit Command 1
Gallente Light Dropsuits V

So to use the exact same dropsuit you have access to know, requires the exact same amount of skills. (Assuming that Gallente Light Dropsuits V is x8 much like skill previously required.)

Then to use the Gallente Scout Dropsuit, which has additional role bonuses, you will need to train an additional skill:

Gallente Scout Dropsuits

To level 5 to use prototypes.

They have't taken anything away, just given us more gear and better gear than we have currently. The new better gear will require new skills to be trained, but since that gear doesn't exist now, you're not loosing anything.

From what I can see from the video. To run a prototype dropsuit like the one you have now will still take the same amount of training. The drop suits we have now are not role based, just frames. Those appear to be turning in to the basic drop suits.

See how under Light, it has Basic and Scout. Under Medium it has Basic, Assault and Logistic.

To use a gallant basic light dropsuit would require

Dropsuit Command 1
Gallente Light Dropsuits V

So to use the exact same dropsuit you have access to know, requires the exact same amount of skills. (Assuming that Gallente Light Dropsuits V is x8 much like skill previously required.)

Then to use the Gallente Scout Dropsuit, which has additional role bonuses, you will need to train an additional skill:

Gallente Scout Dropsuits

To level 5 to use prototypes.

They have't taken anything away, just given us more gear and better gear than we have currently. The new better gear will require new skills to be trained, but since that gear doesn't exist now, you're not loosing anything.

Wrong.

There are no Basic Logistics suits. All the Medium Frame Basic suits looks to be Assault.

Wrong.

There are no Basic Logistics suits. All the Medium Frame Basic suits looks to be Assault.

Also noticed that there are prototype versions of the basic suits - I'm guessing the skill requirements for these are lower than the specialized suits.

Upside people - more suits, more roles, more bonuses. Specialized suits take more SP; what we have now doesn't. Win-win.

It seems CCP is content to sell us SP, when we want them to sell us content.

It seems CCP is content to sell us SP, but I want it all for free...handed to me on a silver platter...and a pony

Correct. But they told us that ages ago. Go back and listen to the first merc cast again. They said that they are altering they way they divided up the dropsuit categories. Rather than have 4 types, they would now have 3 types based on the size of the frame. That way they can add additional subtypes down the line as needed.

So we already new that logistics and assault were becoming subclasses of a generic medium class.

But since the assault and logistics suits that are in the game now do not have any suit or role bonuses, the suits in the game now becoming the basic suits in uprising fits perfectly.

So you'll still be able to use an equivalent suit to what you have now for the same skill point investment. It will just be called a Minmatar Medium Basic or Caldari Medium Basic. Will they have the same stats and slot layout? Probably not, but again we new they were going to be rebalancing those.

Fixed that for you...

Not to mention tiericide is back. Thought you learned your lesson in EvE that its a bad thing?

Example: 10X for suits plus prereq of frame skills. Amarr Proto logi requires Amarr Med Frame V and Amarr logi V. How is that (see quote by ccp in post below) amount of sp? Do you make a habit of lying to us this openly? Please refer to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjMwiqmBs1o a video by jenza at the 14:49 mark where is shows the prereq for the Amarr Logi suit

You really want new/casual players to spend 6 months to get to a protosuit/weapon config? You think they are going to stick around? Oh I see your plan sell 2x/3x active boosters. Look I got my sp and Ill be good but way to screw your casual and new player base.

I get this is an mmo and you are proud of the "it takes 7 years to get all level 5s" but for ***** sake give us real content not just **** to spend SP on.



Edit:

Before I get a "noc" warning and can't post for the next month because ccp doesn't like being called out let me say this: I have much love for Dust514 and I will not hesitate to call ccp out when it needs to be done.

Also for you nerds saying they are new suits. Please refer to our current winmatar logi proto stats then compare them to the video at the 16:29 mark http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=EgB6LXqk8RY They are the same exact suits

PS I love how people hate me more then they hate ccp for jacking up suits costs and lying about it.

I don't hate you.

and thanks for letting everyone see how CCP likes to **** over new players

I think you're wrong. CCP loves its players, and wouldn't screw us over like that.

You guys are all haters, your whole corp is dedicated to this $***. Get a life losers.


Also, you're hating on something not even out yet, relax.


Nerds.

Obvious bait...

Trolling scrub detected.

Obvious bait...

Trolling scrub detected.

Before I get a "noc" warning and can't post for the next month because ccp doesn't like being called out let me say this: I have much love for Dust514 and I will not hesitate to call ccp out when it needs to be done.

Also for you nerds saying they are new suits. Please refer to our current winmatar logi proto stats then compare them to the video at the 16:29 mark http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=EgB6LXqk8RY They are the same exact suits

PS I love how people hate me more then they hate ccp for jacking up suits costs and lying about it.

No they aren't the same. Because they require an extra level of skill to use. And part of that skill endows frame and role bonuses on those drop suits.

In your video link, go to 13:26. It shows the both the basic and scout dropsuits. The basic suits have no role bonuses (much like the gear we have now). While the video doesn't show the basic gear for the other frame sizes, it's not hard to guess what my be listed there.

Fixed that for you...

Those role bonuses are hardly better than any passive skills and definitely not worth their SP cost.

It's ICY we just learn to ignore children vying for a seat at the grown-ups table.

so disappointed in Icy

If you don't think the role bonuses are worth anything, then you're a lucky lucky dust bunny. You don't need to train them.

As increments in ability increase linearly, so do they increase in cost increase exponentially. This is how everything in dust works. It is why the first 5% increase cost 6000 SP, but the 5th 5% increase costs 155,460.00. If you don't think the role bonuses are worth anything, then you're a lucky lucky dust bunny. You don't need to train them.

These are long term skills, they are not designed to be trained overnight. The longer you play and the more powerful your character becomes, the greater the value you gain out of those benefits and the more worthy of the cost.

I do if I want to skill into Assault or Logistics, or Scouts and Sentinels

The prereq for that better not be something stupid like level 5 basic suits.

Spoken like a true prodigy. Congratulations, you have won the game.

What benefit does skilling in to assault or logistics give you over the basic suits?