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Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 1193	Posted - 2013.05.01 22:14:00 - [1] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: accelerated This is accelerated?
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 1193	Posted - 2013.05.01 22:18:00 - [2] - Quote And here I thought 3X SP was them being generous
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 1195	Posted - 2013.05.02 00:26:00 - [3] - Quote Khamelaya wrote: Lord-of-the-Dreadfort wrote: Before I get a "noc" warning and can't post for the next month because ccp doesn't like being called out let me say this: I have much love for Dust514 and I will not hesitate to call ccp out when it needs to be done. Also for you nerds saying they are new suits. Please refer to our current winmatar logi proto stats then compare them to the video at the 16:29 mark http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=EgB6LXqk8RY They are the same exact suits PS I love how people hate me more then they hate ccp for jacking up suits costs and lying about it. No they aren't the same. Because they require an extra level of skill to use. And part of that skill endows frame and role bonuses on those drop suits. In your video link, go to 13:26. It shows the both the basic and scout dropsuits. The basic suits have no role bonuses (much like the gear we have now). While the video doesn't show the basic gear for the other frame sizes, it's not hard to guess what my be listed there. Those role bonuses are hardly better than any passive skills and definitely not worth their SP cost.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 1195	Posted - 2013.05.02 00:41:00 - [4] - Quote Khamelaya wrote: If you don't think the role bonuses are worth anything, then you're a lucky lucky dust bunny. You don't need to train them. I do if I want to skill into Assault or Logistics, or Scouts and Sentinels The prereq for that better not be something stupid like level 5 basic suits.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 1195	Posted - 2013.05.02 00:50:00 - [5] - Quote Khamelaya wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: Khamelaya wrote: If you don't think the role bonuses are worth anything, then you're a lucky lucky dust bunny. You don't need to train them. I do if I want to skill into Assault or Logistics, or Scouts and Sentinels The prereq for that better not be something stupid like level 5 basic suits. What benefit does skilling in to assault or logistics give you over the basic suits? ...
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 1195	Posted - 2013.05.02 02:18:00 - [6] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Under all current technicalities, you guys are all currently wearing Light, Medium and Heavy Suits, nobody here is wearing scout, logistics, commando, sentinel, assault, pilot suits yet. They're like the muraders of HAVs. Yeah, the stats and slot layout say otherwise Or are you saying basic suits have the exact stats as our current suits?
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 1195	Posted - 2013.05.02 02:35:00 - [7] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Under all current technicalities, you guys are all currently wearing Light, Medium and Heavy Suits, nobody here is wearing scout, logistics, commando, sentinel, assault, pilot suits yet. They're like the muraders of HAVs. Yeah, the stats and slot layout say otherwise Or are you saying basic suits have the exact stats as our current suits? The advanced suits have anywhere from two (not one or not zero like current) 10-15% bonuses to a function that there is no current suit here can ever possibly match with current suits or even modules, If your current suits went against these new ones when they're optimally fitted, you will get ROLF stomped. Interesting... But are the "basic" suits exactly like our current suits? I'm fine with suits costing more, because of the bonuses, but I see no point to the basic suits.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 1195	Posted - 2013.05.02 03:04:00 - [8] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Khamelaya wrote: How do you know there are't?I'm saying the suits we have now are under the basic tab in uprising, they have been renamed to Medium, and they are equivalent to what we have now. That makes two people that understand how things are going to work. But everyone is so busy wild mass guessing with a chip on their shoulder, you can't get through to anyone. And you guys have proof that the "Basic" medium Minmatar suit is identical to the Logi suit we have? If Iron Wolf said it then I'd believe him, but anything from you two is just as much speculation as anything that I say.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1198	Posted - 2013.05.02 07:40:00 - [9] - Quote Iron Wolf: I honestly don't care about the "advanced" suit costs, they can stay 10X for all I care. but what justifies the existence of the "basic" suits? They honestly seem pointless, aside from being something we have to spend SP on. Also, do you need the "basic frame" skill to level 5 before you can specialize into a role?
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1198	Posted - 2013.05.02 07:48:00 - [10] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Exactly my train of thought. I severely doubt we're going to be getting the same amount of SP we're getting now to have to pay for these skills. It's still going to be a grind, don't get me wrong, but grinding builds character. Bring it on CCP! My body is ready![/quote] And what is CCP going to tell people who've been using boosters now because they didn't know they'd gain more if they had saved them fort= a later date? You can't just double Sp gains or something like that. This 3x Sp event is one thing, making the change permanent would devalue every booster used up until this point. Now that sounds like a money grab.

Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1198	Posted - 2013.05.02 08:01:00 - [11] - Quote J-Lewis wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: Iron Wolf: I honestly don't care about the "advanced" suit costs, they can stay 10X for all I care. but what justifies the existence of the "basic" suits? They honestly seem pointless, aside from being something we have to spend SP on. Also, do you need the "basic frame" skill to level 5 before you can specialize into a role? You do not need basic frame to 5 to specialize into a role. To use a Basic Logistics suit, you need level 1 in both. 3 for advanced, 5 for prototype. The specialized suits are not the suits we have right now; our Caldari Assault is the equivalent of the Caldari Medium Dropsuit, not the Caldari Assault Dropsuit. The key difference being the two bonuses that the latter gets, not so much the suit stats. He already explained that, and I get it, what I want to know is why do we need basic suits in the first place? Just get rid of the things. He also said that no basic suit has 2 equipment slots, so our current Logi suits no longer exists, just some stupid thing called a Minmatar basic frame that does who knows what. So no, these aren't the same suits we currently have.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1199	Posted - 2013.05.02 08:09:00 - [12] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Also, keep in mind that this information was taken from the tournament build and CCP isn't above some good old fashioned trolling. This better be trolling.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1199	Posted - 2013.05.02 08:44:00 - [13] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Calgoth Reborn wrote: crazy space 1 wrote: X10 is suppose to rare .... In eve only a few skills are that high, dust aims to have 24 of them just in dropsuits. Thats a total of 124 million sp. That's 40 years alone . Ccp I've waited 6 years to play dust, eve since beta almost, but I refuse to play your game unless you bring the total sp amount to something reasonable like in eve. You've made it so training all of the frigates of eve online took 40 years to train ! What were you thinking ! Not sure what math you are using but at max sp per week not counting after cap one can earn 27,955,200 sp per year so that's 4.4 years to gain 124 mil sp Just out of curiosity what numbers and calculations are you guys going on? I'm assuming Calgoth just took the weekly SP, divided it by 7, and then multiplied it by 364, he then added a booster to that. That should give you 14,851,200. Then passive boosted SP for a year is 13,104,000 Look at the bright side though guys, pretty soon we'll be getting Omega boosters
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1199	Posted - 2013.05.02 08:54:00 - [14] - Quote Arramakaian Eka wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: Cosgar wrote: Exactly my train of thought. I severely doubt we're going to be getting the same amount of SP we're getting now to have to pay for these skills. It's still going to be a grind, don't get me wrong, but grinding builds character. Bring it on CCP! My body is ready! And what is CCP going to tell people who've been using boosters now because they didn't know they'd gain more if they had saved them for a later date? You can't just double Sp gains or something like that. This 3x Sp event is one thing, making the change permanent would devalue every booster used up until this point. Now that sounds like a money grab. Bare in mind that I haven't used a booster and therefore have no personal stake in the matter. There's nothing to complain about. People who use boosters made the decision based on the information and status of the game available at that time. CCP has no obligation to keep the same SP system indefinitely. Besides, the gains you have received from using boosters will not go away. I have used a few boosters and am fine with it. Maybe they don't have legal obligation, but they have an obligation to be clear to their customers, something they suck at.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1199	Posted - 2013.05.02 08:58:00 - [15] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Pleas, don't give anyone ideas about another EULA/legal action topic. Why not? It gives me a chance to google laws I know nothing about!