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Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
108
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Posted - 2013.03.26 04:55:00 -
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I just played three horrific games that were losses from the word go. First game I didn't realize we had people going 0/0 until the end of the match. The next match was just as bad, so halfway through I checked the score-sheet and started to see the same names from the previous game on my team. Did I team kill them? No. Did I send hate mail? No. I sent about ten blank emails to the person of a recognizable corp. What we have here is failure to communicate!. In my opinion, I hope you'll agree, the spam blank mail now represents hate mail to MCC squatters. It's about the same amount of effort.
The next match I scanned the MCC at the very start of the match. Three non movers. I knew another loss was coming. We wont beat them. So I thought, "If you can't beat them, join the ones who didn't join you in beating them", and I almost started to farm SP myself like a big hypocrite. No, I couldn't do it. I just shut the PS3 off after three games. Yay, fun.
Yeah, I know, cool story bro. There will be a sequel if this rotten gamesmanship continues. To all you real players, add these farming wasteoids to your contacts and spam them with blank mail then delete their contacts. If not that, please do not join the corps of these players.
If someone wants to compile a blacklist of these players and their corps . . . . run some names in the mud. They are killing the dust community.
The only other way is for absolutely everybody to farm skill until CCP realizes nobody is on the battlefield. |
Logi Bro
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
985
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Posted - 2013.03.26 04:58:00 -
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Someone already tried a blacklist of names, and GMs removed it. |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
109
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:00:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:Someone already tried a blacklist of names, and GMs removed it.
I admire the effort of the thread starter. |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
698
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:00:00 -
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Dude to be honest, **** happens. It's a video game, you lost a Public match, go get yourself a drink and put your mind at ease. |
Deadeyes Anterie
Ill Omens
315
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:02:00 -
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I dislike AFK farming just as much as you, but let me just inform you that your post has delighted them and you have made them enjoy what they do even more. They thrive at pissing people off, or don't give two fucks what people think about them (why they don't have any issues with AFK farming)
The forum mods have a strange double standard when it comes to calling players out who do this. They let a 12 page thread go where I called out an Imperfect with a video, however they deleted a thread where I called out some lesser know Corporations. It's a violation of forum policy, unless of course it's an imperfect then the mods let it go.
There is nothing you can really do, and accepting that and moving on will make the game a lot more enjoyable. I strongly suggest you squad up with 3 other good players and make AFK players irrelevent to your chances of victory. That's what I did and I really don't care that much about it anymore.
P.S The blacklist was mine |
GoD-NoVa
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
223
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:03:00 -
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stop whining you big baby and carry the team its not hard |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
608
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:04:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:you lost a Public match Not sure who's worse, the tryhards who take pub matches so seriously, or AFKers Whateve's |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
608
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:06:00 -
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Deadeyes Anterie wrote:
The forum mods have a strange double standard when it comes to calling players out who do this. They let a 12 page thread go where I called out an Imperfect with a video, however they deleted a thread where I called out some lesser know Corporations. It's a violation of forum policy, unless of course it's an imperfect then the mods let it go.
Pretty sure he said naming corps was fine, naming individual players is not. |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
109
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:06:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Dude to be honest, **** happens. It's a video game, you lost a Public match, go get yourself a drink and put your mind at ease.
To the mcc squatter, **** does not happen. |
Deadeyes Anterie
Ill Omens
315
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:07:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Deadeyes Anterie wrote:
The forum mods have a strange double standard when it comes to calling players out who do this. They let a 12 page thread go where I called out an Imperfect with a video, however they deleted a thread where I called out some lesser know Corporations. It's a violation of forum policy, unless of course it's an imperfect then the mods let it go.
Pretty sure he said naming corps was fine, naming individual players is not.
The GM's deleted the names and Corporations. |
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WyrmHero1945
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
67
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:07:00 -
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Dude play ambush, skirmish is broken atm. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
180
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:07:00 -
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Afkers are pathetic trash. I've learned to feel a little bit sorry for them. I mean, what kind of loser must you be to afk farm sp in a game that already gives you passive SP?
The behavior definitely taints the game as a whole, but know they won't last long. |
DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
388
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:09:00 -
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I AFK'd for 3 matches 2 weeks ago... I felt like a tool afterwards. However it was funny watching 3 others do the same lol. We starting shooting each other for awhile up there in the MCC. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
608
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:10:00 -
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Deadeyes Anterie wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Deadeyes Anterie wrote:
The forum mods have a strange double standard when it comes to calling players out who do this. They let a 12 page thread go where I called out an Imperfect with a video, however they deleted a thread where I called out some lesser know Corporations. It's a violation of forum policy, unless of course it's an imperfect then the mods let it go.
Pretty sure he said naming corps was fine, naming individual players is not. The GM deleted the names and Corporations. Something along the lines of pointing fingers was not a productive way to handle the issue. Seemed more productive than anything they have done so far. Also the Imperfect player was named in the thread title haha, so serious double standard on enforcement. Ahh right, the Kane thread. It seems I remembered wrong though, this is what GM Unicorn had said
Quote:Hi, while I'm understanding your point of view in this matter, I don't like any sort of "head hunting" with names and such. We are aware of the situation but we still have to make an official statement about it. I'm closing the thread in order to avoid a massive flame, but if you want to discuss about it in a civil way, feel free to open a new one. Also, I have nothing against a thread from another perspective like "List of Corps that are against farming" or something like that. |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
110
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:12:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:you lost a Public match Not sure who's worse, the tryhards who take pub matches so seriously, or AFKers Whateve's
I think by tryhards you might mean people who know the rewards of a team in real life. I sometimes forget that not everyone has been a part of a good team, whether underdog or favored. I don't care if people want to play a video game casually, but why they choose a team game where their carelessness affects other players is beyond me. |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
698
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:12:00 -
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You know what, don't even blame AFK's. Blame the skill cap. Some people are just lazy. Some might be off cleaning their house and doing other things and let the game keep their character up to speed. AFKers will only disappear when a Cap disappears. |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
110
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:13:00 -
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WyrmHero1945 wrote:Dude play ambush, skirmish is broken atm.
I like objectives and more purpose of positioning. I never play ambush. |
DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
388
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:13:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:You know what, don't even blame AFK's. Blame the skill cap. Some people are just lazy. Some might be off cleaning their house and doing other things and let the game keep their character up to speed. AFKers will only disappear when a Cap disappears. I can only hope that doesn't happen. |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
110
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:14:00 -
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Some of these corps have spoken to me about recruitment and I'm glad I didn't join the likes of them, even if they are skilled. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
608
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:15:00 -
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Vanda-Kon wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:you lost a Public match Not sure who's worse, the tryhards who take pub matches so seriously, or AFKers Whateve's I think by tryhards you might mean people who know the rewards of a team in real life. I sometimes forget that not everyone has been a part of a good team, whether underdog or favored. I don't care if people want to play a video game casually, but why they choose a team game were their carelessness affects other players is beyond me. By tryhards I mean busting out 5 tanks in an Ambush match against newberries, they know who they are... |
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Sada Mokmo
DUST University Ivy League
7
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:15:00 -
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Whenever this kind of thread shows up, gm answer is usually that an anti-idle system is being implemented in a future build...
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
608
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:18:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:You know what, don't even blame AFK's. Blame the skill cap. Some people are just lazy. Some might be off cleaning their house and doing other things and let the game keep their character up to speed. AFKers will only disappear when a Cap disappears.
Right.... so they can AFK indefinitely? Problem right now is how rewards are handled, no one should get that much SP for just being in a match. Maybe if they just halved the SP for time in a match and increased the WP reward? |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1784
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:18:00 -
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Bpo fitted grenade suit.
Cook grenade next to friendly.
Get hate mail. |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
112
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:19:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:I AFK'd for 3 matches 2 weeks ago... I felt like a tool afterwards. However it was funny watching 3 others do the same lol. We starting shooting each other for awhile up there in the MCC.
Yeah, I might start doing it too. Despite how much I hate these players for doing it, I'm out there risking personal loss before I realize I'm unreasonably outnumbered. I will feel bad about it, but then again, I just shut the game off feeling bad, so . . . |
Deadeyes Anterie
Ill Omens
315
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:19:00 -
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This was my suggestion to remove the incentive for AFK.
It would be 100x more effective than actually going after the behavior itself which will never really work.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=559441#post559441 |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
608
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:20:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Bpo fitted grenade suit.
Cook grenade next to friendly.
Get hate mail. Good luck killing someone with stacked shields or a heavy... |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
112
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:20:00 -
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Sada Mokmo wrote:Whenever this kind of thread shows up, gm answer is usually that an anti-idle system is being implemented in a future build...
I hadn't heard that. If so, good news. Because I've got kicked for not being able to spawn a new suit plenty enough times without sp/ isk recovery at the end. |
Wicked Glory
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
127
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:20:00 -
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AFKing in the MCC as I write this post. |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
698
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:23:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:You know what, don't even blame AFK's. Blame the skill cap. Some people are just lazy. Some might be off cleaning their house and doing other things and let the game keep their character up to speed. AFKers will only disappear when a Cap disappears. I can only hope that doesn't happen. Oh sorry. In my opinion, I'd like pure passive SP like in Eve. Sorry if it came off like I want to SP grind my life away. |
Deadeyes Anterie
Ill Omens
315
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:24:00 -
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Sada Mokmo wrote:Whenever this kind of thread shows up, gm answer is usually that an anti-idle system is being implemented in a future build...
Anyone who believes there will be an anti-idol system with enough teeth to actually work is a fool.
There are to many side-cases where they have to error on the side of caution. It will be so easy to figure out a way to bypass any 'detection' they implement it will be a pointless exercise on their part. |
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Rifter7
Improvise.
120
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:26:00 -
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i think if they just increased the passive skillpoints to include the active skillpoint cap and actually removed the active skillpoints, merging active booster into passive, that any incentive to afk would be gone. that's how it works in eve online.
people would play to make isk and get salvage- enemy player salvage preferably.
i dunno tho eve requires a subscription.. and dust atm allows free accounts (not sure if theyre going to implement the 10-20 dollar buy in on release). it would make alts an issue for sure i guess.. |
DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
388
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:26:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:You know what, don't even blame AFK's. Blame the skill cap. Some people are just lazy. Some might be off cleaning their house and doing other things and let the game keep their character up to speed. AFKers will only disappear when a Cap disappears. I can only hope that doesn't happen. Oh sorry. In my opinion, I'd like pure passive SP like in Eve. Sorry if it came off like I want to SP grind my life away. Oh, ok good. Thought you were.. One of them.. |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
112
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:27:00 -
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Wicked Glory wrote:AFKing in the MCC as I write this post.
Considering leaving dust and team video games in general as I read your post. Good luck with the longevity of this game with that kind of blatant disregard. Dust will have MAG written all over it.
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Deadeyes Anterie
Ill Omens
315
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:28:00 -
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Rifter7 wrote:i think if they just increased the passive skillpoints to include the active skillpoint cap and actually removed the active skillpoints, merging active booster into passive, that any incentive to afk would be gone. that's how it works in eve online.
people would play to make isk and get salvage- enemy player salvage preferably.
i dunno tho eve requires a subscription.. and dust atm allows free accounts (not sure if theyre going to implement the 10-20 dollar buy in on release). it would make alts an issue for sure i guess..
Would they then make the passive booster 14,000 AUR/Week so they don't throw away half their revenue? |
Wicked Glory
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
127
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:29:00 -
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Vanda-Kon wrote:Wicked Glory wrote:AFKing in the MCC as I write this post. Considering leaving dust and team video games in general as I read your post. Good luck with the longevity of this game with that kind of blatant disregard. Dust will have MAG written all over it. Good luck with life. |
Rusty Shallows
Creative Killers
26
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:29:00 -
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Vanda-Kon wrote:So I thought, "If you can't beat them, join the ones who didn't join you in beating them", and I almost started to farm SP myself like a big hypocrite. No, I couldn't do it. I just shut the PS3 off after three games. Yay, fun. Amen. Had a bad match with a heavy isk lost and no progress to show for it. Spawned in the free Dire Sentinel fit with every intention of afk-farming. Didn't last one minute, jumped and joined the fight again...
Sure sucks having principles Vanda-Kon.
Vanda-Kon wrote:The only other way is for absolutely everybody to farm skill until CCP realizes nobody is on the battlefield. Everybody farming... that sounds brilliant, if only it were possible. Maybe there will be SP-farming in future friendly district fights. If only there was a way around the isk loss. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
608
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:29:00 -
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Deadeyes Anterie wrote:Sada Mokmo wrote:Whenever this kind of thread shows up, gm answer is usually that an anti-idle system is being implemented in a future build...
Anyone who believes there will be an anti-idol system with enough teeth to actually work is a fool. There are to many side-cases where they have to error on the side of caution. It will be so easy to figure out a way to bypass any 'detection' they implement it will be a pointless exercise on their part. Why are you so concerned about how others play? Even if they aren't actually playing...
So is this weekly cap the final decision, or are we ever going back to a roll over system? Cause this feels like community service where I have to put in a certain number of hours in a month -_- |
Deadeyes Anterie
Ill Omens
315
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:32:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Deadeyes Anterie wrote:Sada Mokmo wrote:Whenever this kind of thread shows up, gm answer is usually that an anti-idle system is being implemented in a future build...
Anyone who believes there will be an anti-idol system with enough teeth to actually work is a fool. There are to many side-cases where they have to error on the side of caution. It will be so easy to figure out a way to bypass any 'detection' they implement it will be a pointless exercise on their part. Why are you so concerned about how others play? Even if they aren't actually playing... So is this weekly cap the final decision, or are we ever going back to a roll over system? Cause this feels like community service where I have to put in a certain number of hours in a month -_-
The general health of a game relies on the community as a whole. If bots were allowed to run unchecked in EvE and generate AFK ISK at a high level it would ruin the entire economy, and the game as a whole.
Dust AFKing is botting effectively and it's hurting the game community as a whole. |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
112
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:35:00 -
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[/quote] Why are you so concerned about how others play? Even if they aren't actually playing [/quote]
For the same reason I don't go to concerts where the band doesn't show up, but I still get to stare at the instruments set up on stage. Encore! Encore! |
JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
178
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:35:00 -
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Woop Woop. Freeze the AFK police are here! |
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
180
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:37:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:You know what, don't even blame AFK's. Blame the skill cap. Some people are just lazy. Some might be off cleaning their house and doing other things and let the game keep their character up to speed. AFKers will only disappear when a Cap disappears. I can only hope that doesn't happen. Oh sorry. In my opinion, I'd like pure passive SP like in Eve. Sorry if it came off like I want to SP grind my life away. Yes, the proper solution is to remove active sp gain entirely.
No more afk issue, and no more endless cap debates. Eve's been doing it for 10 years, and Dust could too. |
WyrmHero1945
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
67
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:38:00 -
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Vanda-Kon wrote:WyrmHero1945 wrote:Dude play ambush, skirmish is broken atm. I like objectives and more purpose of positioning. I never play ambush.
Me too but not worth it with its current problems. Low ISK gains, redlining, AFKers...Ambush lets you win more SP/ISK in less time and isn't as annoying as the current state skirmish is. I actually die less in ambush than skirmish lol. |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
114
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:38:00 -
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JL3Eleven wrote:Woop Woop. Freeze the AFK police are here!
We've got an AFKer wanting to cap his A-hole skill. |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
114
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:40:00 -
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WyrmHero1945 wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:WyrmHero1945 wrote:Dude play ambush, skirmish is broken atm. I like objectives and more purpose of positioning. I never play ambush. Me too but not worth it with its current problems. Low ISK gains, redlining, AFKers...Ambush lets you win more SP/ISK in less time and isn't as annoying as the current state skirmish is. I actually die less in ambush than skirmish lol.
I guess I'll have to consider it. Or buy COD for the same thing. |
Deadeyes Anterie
Ill Omens
316
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:41:00 -
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Vanda-Kon wrote:WyrmHero1945 wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:WyrmHero1945 wrote:Dude play ambush, skirmish is broken atm. I like objectives and more purpose of positioning. I never play ambush. Me too but not worth it with its current problems. Low ISK gains, redlining, AFKers...Ambush lets you win more SP/ISK in less time and isn't as annoying as the current state skirmish is. I actually die less in ambush than skirmish lol. I guess I'll have to consider it. Or buy COD for the same thing.
Seeking refuge in the COD community, have that many ****** people made their home here? |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
180
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:42:00 -
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Vanda-Kon wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Woop Woop. Freeze the AFK police are here! We've got an AFKer wanting to cap his A-hole skill. I would love to see Dust go all passive SP and watch these guys freak out.
The afkers would leave, but the rest of us would have a nice game to play, and CCP would continue to make money off of everything except the active boosters. Do it CCP. The afkers, no lifers will be off to the next shiny anyway. |
JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
178
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:42:00 -
[47] - Quote
Vanda-Kon wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Woop Woop. Freeze the AFK police are here! We've got an AFKer wanting to cap his A-hole skill.
We got a cry baby who wont shut up whats your point? |
DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
388
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:43:00 -
[48] - Quote
Vanda-Kon wrote:WyrmHero1945 wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:WyrmHero1945 wrote:Dude play ambush, skirmish is broken atm. I like objectives and more purpose of positioning. I never play ambush. Me too but not worth it with its current problems. Low ISK gains, redlining, AFKers...Ambush lets you win more SP/ISK in less time and isn't as annoying as the current state skirmish is. I actually die less in ambush than skirmish lol. I guess I'll have to consider it. Or buy COD for the same thing. Ehh.. After playing dust, I rage alot in COD. Feels pointless cuz I'm used to playing for something(in dust it'd be isk).
I only play COD to play with my friends. Other than that I hardly touch it. |
Mithridates VI
The Southern Legion
490
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:44:00 -
[49] - Quote
They're roleplaying saboteurs. |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
114
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:44:00 -
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JL3Eleven wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Woop Woop. Freeze the AFK police are here! We've got an AFKer wanting to cap his A-hole skill. We got a cry baby who want shut up whats your point?
That you are acting like an A-hole, one level at a time. |
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JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
178
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:44:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Woop Woop. Freeze the AFK police are here! We've got an AFKer wanting to cap his A-hole skill. I would love to see Dust go all passive SP and watch these guys freak out. The afkers would leave, but the rest of us would have a nice game to play, and CCP would continue to make money off of everything except the active boosters. Do it CCP. The afkers, no lifers will be off to the next shiny anyway.
When will you stop crying and post ways to fix the problem instead of QQing? |
JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
178
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:46:00 -
[52] - Quote
Vanda-Kon wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Woop Woop. Freeze the AFK police are here! We've got an AFKer wanting to cap his A-hole skill. We got a cry baby who want shut up whats your point? That you are acting like an A-hole, one level at a time.
Wow making a joke makes me an A-hole. What do insults get me? |
Deadeyes Anterie
Ill Omens
316
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:47:00 -
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Vanda-Kon wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Woop Woop. Freeze the AFK police are here! We've got an AFKer wanting to cap his A-hole skill. We got a cry baby who want shut up whats your point? That you are acting like an A-hole, one level at a time.
It's not acting. |
DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
388
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:47:00 -
[54] - Quote
JL3Eleven wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Woop Woop. Freeze the AFK police are here! We've got an AFKer wanting to cap his A-hole skill. We got a cry baby who want shut up whats your point? That you are acting like an A-hole, one level at a time. Wow making a joke makes me an A-hole. What do insults get me? a +1 |
JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
178
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:48:00 -
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Vanda-Kon wrote:I just played three horrific games that were losses from the word go. First game I didn't realize we had people going 0/0 until the end of the match. The next match was just as bad, so halfway through I checked the score-sheet and started to see the same names from the previous game on my team. Did I team kill them? No. Did I send hate mail? No. I sent about ten blank emails to the person of a recognizable corp. What we have here is failure to communicate!. In my opinion, I hope you'll agree, the spam blank mail now represents hate mail to MCC squatters. It's about the same amount of effort.
The next match I scanned the MCC at the very start of the match. Three non movers. I knew another loss was coming. We wont beat them. So I thought, "If you can't beat them, join the ones who didn't join you in beating them", and I almost started to farm SP myself like a big hypocrite. No, I couldn't do it. I just shut the PS3 off after three games. Yay, fun.
Yeah, I know, cool story bro. There will be a sequel if this rotten gamesmanship continues. To all you real players, add these farming wasteoids to your contacts and spam them with blank mail then delete their contacts. If not that, please do not join the corps of these players.
If someone wants to compile a blacklist of these players and their corps . . . . run some names in the mud. They are killing the dust community.
The only other way is for absolutely everybody to farm skill until CCP realizes nobody is on the battlefield.
Quit crying because people are not carrying you. Come up with ways to fix or GTFO. |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
114
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:49:00 -
[56] - Quote
JL3Eleven wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Woop Woop. Freeze the AFK police are here! We've got an AFKer wanting to cap his A-hole skill. I would love to see Dust go all passive SP and watch these guys freak out. The afkers would leave, but the rest of us would have a nice game to play, and CCP would continue to make money off of everything except the active boosters. Do it CCP. The afkers, no lifers will be off to the next shiny anyway. When will you stop crying and post ways to fix the problem instead of QQing?
When will you stop exaggerating about actual tears?
Hey A-hole, if you AFK, you are an A-hole, so consider this about yourself and stop doing it. Problem fixed. |
Rifter7
Improvise.
122
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:50:00 -
[57] - Quote
Deadeyes Anterie wrote:
Would they then make the passive booster 14,000 AUR/Week so they don't throw away half their revenue?
oh yeah. and this is why i'm not in marketing or video game development, people.
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JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
183
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:50:00 -
[58] - Quote
Deadeyes Anterie wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Woop Woop. Freeze the AFK police are here! We've got an AFKer wanting to cap his A-hole skill. We got a cry baby who want shut up whats your point? That you are acting like an A-hole, one level at a time. It's not acting.
Correct. I don't feel pity for cry babies. Come up with productive solutions or quit crying. |
JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
183
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 05:52:00 -
[59] - Quote
Vanda-Kon wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Woop Woop. Freeze the AFK police are here! We've got an AFKer wanting to cap his A-hole skill. I would love to see Dust go all passive SP and watch these guys freak out. The afkers would leave, but the rest of us would have a nice game to play, and CCP would continue to make money off of everything except the active boosters. Do it CCP. The afkers, no lifers will be off to the next shiny anyway. When will you stop crying and post ways to fix the problem instead of QQing? When will you stop exaggerating about actual tears? Hey A-hole, if you AFK, you are an A-hole, so consider this about yourself and stop doing it. Problem fixed.
Dude how many threads about this same topic have you already made 3? yea the QQ is strong with you. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
608
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:52:00 -
[60] - Quote
Vanda-Kon wrote:
For the same reason I don't go to concerts where the band doesn't show up, but I still get to stare at the instruments set up on stage. Encore! Encore!
Except it's a free concert where you get stuff for just showing up, and while you were staring at the instruments wondering why you paid for a free concert; the guy next to you was listening to his i-pod. |
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Deadeyes Anterie
Ill Omens
316
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:56:00 -
[61] - Quote
JL3Eleven wrote:
Correct. I don't feel pity for cry babies. Come up with productive solutions or quit crying.
I actually agree with you, I posted my solution on page two of this thread.
QQ'ing or posting a thread about an issue that is bothering you (whichever you prefer to call it) actually brings attention to the issue.
After my thread on Kain it was in their 'weekly update' a few days later of things they are working on or looking at. Making posts on things that you think are wrong with the game is really the best way to get it addressed.
Does posting a solution help, maybe?, but it's productive either way in my opinion. Unless of course you don't want to see the issue addressed in which case I could see why AFK threads seem to annoy you so much. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
180
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 05:56:00 -
[62] - Quote
JL3Eleven wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Woop Woop. Freeze the AFK police are here! We've got an AFKer wanting to cap his A-hole skill. I would love to see Dust go all passive SP and watch these guys freak out. The afkers would leave, but the rest of us would have a nice game to play, and CCP would continue to make money off of everything except the active boosters. Do it CCP. The afkers, no lifers will be off to the next shiny anyway. When will you stop crying and post ways to fix the problem instead of QQing?
I guess you can't read. I'm not surprised really. I did just post a solution, namely dust should go passive SP only. Also, I've posted the same suggestion in the feedback forum, and a previous, less drastic, suggestion there as well.
Also, I'm not QQing, not that you could tell anyway, considering you can't read. I'm merely pointing out how pathetic you lot really are.
It seems to me that it's the sad, tired, afkers that are QQing. |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
114
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 05:57:00 -
[63] - Quote
Dude how many threads about this same topic have you already made 3? yea the QQ is strong with you.[/quote]
Yeah, and there were 3 players motionless in the mcc during my last game, so don't cry about how many threads I make. |
Rusty Shallows
Creative Killers
26
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Posted - 2013.03.26 05:57:00 -
[64] - Quote
WyrmHero1945 wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:WyrmHero1945 wrote:Dude play ambush, skirmish is broken atm. I like objectives and more purpose of positioning. I never play ambush. Me too but not worth it with its current problems. Low ISK gains, redlining, AFKers...Ambush lets you win more SP/ISK in less time and isn't as annoying as the current state skirmish is. I actually die less in ambush than skirmish lol. What the hell? When I play Ambush it is as if there is a secret mid-slot on my suites with a zero cpu/pg modual that draws shots to me. Around corners, over crates, or grenades fly through the air an stick to my face.
The one thing I do like about Ambushes is that they draw certain kinds of people out of Skirmish. Which isn't to say we don't have our own @sshats right now. Lesser evil and all that jive. |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
286
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 06:00:00 -
[65] - Quote
Vanda-Kon wrote:I just played three horrific games that were losses from the word go. First game I didn't realize we had people going 0/0 until the end of the match. The next match was just as bad, so halfway through I checked the score-sheet and started to see the same names from the previous game on my team. Did I team kill them? No. Did I send hate mail? No. I sent about ten blank emails to the person of a recognizable corp. What we have here is failure to communicate!. In my opinion, I hope you'll agree, the spam blank mail now represents hate mail to MCC squatters. It's about the same amount of effort.
The next match I scanned the MCC at the very start of the match. Three non movers. I knew another loss was coming. We wont beat them. So I thought, "If you can't beat them, join the ones who didn't join you in beating them", and I almost started to farm SP myself like a big hypocrite. No, I couldn't do it. I just shut the PS3 off after three games. Yay, fun.
Yeah, I know, cool story bro. There will be a sequel if this rotten gamesmanship continues. To all you real players, add these farming wasteoids to your contacts and spam them with blank mail then delete their contacts. If not that, please do not join the corps of these players.
If someone wants to compile a blacklist of these players and their corps . . . . run some names in the mud. They are killing the dust community.
The only other way is for absolutely everybody to farm skill until CCP realizes nobody is on the battlefield.
hey, don't hate on us, it's called burn out, we can't stand playing the game anymore, but we believe in it's promise.
so what do we do?
we afk farm so we're not left in the dust. they're pub matches, get over it, they're only there to gain SP and isk |
Deadeyes Anterie
Ill Omens
316
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 06:02:00 -
[66] - Quote
General Tiberius1 wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:I just played three horrific games that were losses from the word go. First game I didn't realize we had people going 0/0 until the end of the match. The next match was just as bad, so halfway through I checked the score-sheet and started to see the same names from the previous game on my team. Did I team kill them? No. Did I send hate mail? No. I sent about ten blank emails to the person of a recognizable corp. What we have here is failure to communicate!. In my opinion, I hope you'll agree, the spam blank mail now represents hate mail to MCC squatters. It's about the same amount of effort.
The next match I scanned the MCC at the very start of the match. Three non movers. I knew another loss was coming. We wont beat them. So I thought, "If you can't beat them, join the ones who didn't join you in beating them", and I almost started to farm SP myself like a big hypocrite. No, I couldn't do it. I just shut the PS3 off after three games. Yay, fun.
Yeah, I know, cool story bro. There will be a sequel if this rotten gamesmanship continues. To all you real players, add these farming wasteoids to your contacts and spam them with blank mail then delete their contacts. If not that, please do not join the corps of these players.
If someone wants to compile a blacklist of these players and their corps . . . . run some names in the mud. They are killing the dust community.
The only other way is for absolutely everybody to farm skill until CCP realizes nobody is on the battlefield. hey, don't hate on us, it's called burn out, we can't stand playing the game anymore, but we believe in it's promise. so what do we do? we afk farm so we're not left in the dust. they're pub matches, get over it, they're only there to gain SP and isk
Do you have any idea how much you sound like a drug addict, I can't take it anymore it's just to much to play the game. I just need my sweet sweet SP. God if I lose some SP I don't know if I could go on living...
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
608
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Posted - 2013.03.26 06:04:00 -
[67] - Quote
General Tiberius1 wrote:
we afk farm so we're not left in the dust
Would you stop with the roll over system? Lets be honest. |
WyrmHero1945
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
67
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Posted - 2013.03.26 06:04:00 -
[68] - Quote
Rusty Shallows wrote:WyrmHero1945 wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:WyrmHero1945 wrote:Dude play ambush, skirmish is broken atm. I like objectives and more purpose of positioning. I never play ambush. Me too but not worth it with its current problems. Low ISK gains, redlining, AFKers...Ambush lets you win more SP/ISK in less time and isn't as annoying as the current state skirmish is. I actually die less in ambush than skirmish lol. What the hell? When I play Ambush it is as if there is a secret mid-slot on my suites with a zero cpu/pg modual that draws shots to me. Around corners, over crates, or grenades fly through the air an stick to my face. The one thing I do like about Ambushes is that they draw certain kinds of people out of Skirmish. Which isn't to say we don't have our own @sshats right now. Lesser evil and all that jive.
Maybe is because it's perfect for my laser guy. Snipers are my greatest weakness so I'm regularly killed by them in skirmish whereas in ambush I can usually get close to them and burn them instantly before crouching out. |
JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
183
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 06:05:00 -
[69] - Quote
Deadeyes Anterie wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:
Correct. I don't feel pity for cry babies. Come up with productive solutions or quit crying.
I actually agree with you, I posted my solution on page two of this thread. QQ'ing or posting a thread about an issue that is bothering you (whichever you prefer to call it) actually brings attention to the issue. After my thread on Kain it was in their 'weekly update' a few days later of things they are working on or looking at. Making posts on things that you think are wrong with the game is really the best way to get it addressed. Does posting a solution help, maybe?, but it's productive either way in my opinion. Unless of course you don't want to see the issue addressed in which case I could see why AFK threads seem to annoy you so much.
nice post.
I agree with you I don't like it either but you must remember why we have it. To let the players that don't get a lot of WP's for the time spent in battle. It helps them get ISK and SP where otherwise they would be left further behind. That is how you would solve this problem, figure out a way to let the less skilled receive points while not letting others abuse the system. I have came up with my own idea instead of QQing about it like others but that would deserve its own post. |
JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
183
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 06:07:00 -
[70] - Quote
Buster Friently wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Woop Woop. Freeze the AFK police are here! We've got an AFKer wanting to cap his A-hole skill. I would love to see Dust go all passive SP and watch these guys freak out. The afkers would leave, but the rest of us would have a nice game to play, and CCP would continue to make money off of everything except the active boosters. Do it CCP. The afkers, no lifers will be off to the next shiny anyway. When will you stop crying and post ways to fix the problem instead of QQing? I guess you can't read. I'm not surprised really. I did just post a solution, namely dust should go passive SP only. Also, I've posted the same suggestion in the feedback forum, and a previous, less drastic, suggestion there as well. Also, I'm not QQing, not that you could tell anyway, considering you can't read. I'm merely pointing out how pathetic you lot really are. It seems to me that it's the sad, tired, afkers that are QQing.
You did not post a solution. If we only have passive why would I bother actually playing? I would make the same?
But since I cannot read. Da herpa derpa derp back at ya. |
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Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
114
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 06:09:00 -
[71] - Quote
General Tiberius1 wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:I just played three horrific games that were losses from the word go. First game I didn't realize we had people going 0/0 until the end of the match. The next match was just as bad, so halfway through I checked the score-sheet and started to see the same names from the previous game on my team. Did I team kill them? No. Did I send hate mail? No. I sent about ten blank emails to the person of a recognizable corp. What we have here is failure to communicate!. In my opinion, I hope you'll agree, the spam blank mail now represents hate mail to MCC squatters. It's about the same amount of effort.
The next match I scanned the MCC at the very start of the match. Three non movers. I knew another loss was coming. We wont beat them. So I thought, "If you can't beat them, join the ones who didn't join you in beating them", and I almost started to farm SP myself like a big hypocrite. No, I couldn't do it. I just shut the PS3 off after three games. Yay, fun.
Yeah, I know, cool story bro. There will be a sequel if this rotten gamesmanship continues. To all you real players, add these farming wasteoids to your contacts and spam them with blank mail then delete their contacts. If not that, please do not join the corps of these players.
If someone wants to compile a blacklist of these players and their corps . . . . run some names in the mud. They are killing the dust community.
The only other way is for absolutely everybody to farm skill until CCP realizes nobody is on the battlefield. hey, don't hate on us, it's called burn out, we can't stand playing the game anymore, but we believe in it's promise. so what do we do? we afk farm so we're not left in the dust. they're pub matches, get over it, they're only there to gain SP and isk
Some people can play the game, and your burn out excuse is causing other players to dislike all the marketplace skills that seem more important than the actual gameplay. All you Eve number fiends are cool and all, but don't expect Dust to compete with other shooters if the fighting takes a backseat to endless leveling up where no fight is needed. |
JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
184
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 06:10:00 -
[72] - Quote
Vanda-Kon wrote:Dude how many threads about this same topic have you already made 3? yea the QQ is strong with you.
Yeah, and there were 3 players motionless in the mcc during my last game, so don't cry about how many threads I make. [/quote]
Everyone must play like I play or I'm telling. That's what I hear. |
Deadeyes Anterie
Ill Omens
317
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 06:12:00 -
[73] - Quote
JL3Eleven wrote:
nice post.
I agree with you I don't like it either but you must remember why we have it. To let the players that don't get a lot of WP's for the time spent in battle. It helps them get ISK and SP where otherwise they would be left further behind. That is how you would solve this problem, figure out a way to let the less skilled receive points while not letting others abuse the system. I have came up with my own idea instead of QQing about it like others but that would deserve its own post.
That was the point of putting multipliers on points. The first 250 earned WP would be = to 1250 WP earned on the higher tiered levels.
It means the bad players would still get nice adjustment to their tiny WP scores to ensure they got decent rewards, and players on the high end would still be getting rewards well into the 2,000 and 3,000 WP marks (although massively diminished)
Basically it's a system that rewards extremely well at the start, and tappers off at tiers to ensure the top tier players are not getting insane rewards. It just takes out the free lunch rewards for doing nothing.
I think it would also result in a better feeling of purpose on the battlefield when you are rewarded for what you do instead of just existing.
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General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
286
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 06:13:00 -
[74] - Quote
Deadeyes Anterie wrote:General Tiberius1 wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:I just played three horrific games that were losses from the word go. First game I didn't realize we had people going 0/0 until the end of the match. The next match was just as bad, so halfway through I checked the score-sheet and started to see the same names from the previous game on my team. Did I team kill them? No. Did I send hate mail? No. I sent about ten blank emails to the person of a recognizable corp. What we have here is failure to communicate!. In my opinion, I hope you'll agree, the spam blank mail now represents hate mail to MCC squatters. It's about the same amount of effort.
The next match I scanned the MCC at the very start of the match. Three non movers. I knew another loss was coming. We wont beat them. So I thought, "If you can't beat them, join the ones who didn't join you in beating them", and I almost started to farm SP myself like a big hypocrite. No, I couldn't do it. I just shut the PS3 off after three games. Yay, fun.
Yeah, I know, cool story bro. There will be a sequel if this rotten gamesmanship continues. To all you real players, add these farming wasteoids to your contacts and spam them with blank mail then delete their contacts. If not that, please do not join the corps of these players.
If someone wants to compile a blacklist of these players and their corps . . . . run some names in the mud. They are killing the dust community.
The only other way is for absolutely everybody to farm skill until CCP realizes nobody is on the battlefield. hey, don't hate on us, it's called burn out, we can't stand playing the game anymore, but we believe in it's promise. so what do we do? we afk farm so we're not left in the dust. they're pub matches, get over it, they're only there to gain SP and isk Do you have any idea how much you sound like a drug addict, I can't take it anymore it's just to much to play the game. I just need my sweet sweet SP. God if I lose some SP I don't know if I could go on living...
pretty much |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
180
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 06:15:00 -
[75] - Quote
JL3Eleven wrote: You did not post a solution. If we only have passive why would I bother actually playing? I would make the same?
But since I cannot read. Da herpa derpa derp back at ya.
You might not bother playing. I count you in the group of worthless afkers after all. If you enjoy playing dust intrinsically (look it up) then you don't need an extrinsic stimulus. If all you want is to see your sp go up, please feel free to play click a cow, I hear it has no click cap. |
Deadeyes Anterie
Ill Omens
317
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 06:15:00 -
[76] - Quote
JL3Eleven wrote:
Everyone must play like I play or I'm telling. That's what I hear.
A better analogy is you find out your neighbor is committing fraud and earning a **** ton of cash, that's not really my business so whatever. Then you both go the the auction to buy **** and he outbids you on everything. Now you are probably going to be a little pissed. If it wasn't going to be a free market economy I doubt many people would give two fucks, but some people have foresight. |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
286
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 06:16:00 -
[77] - Quote
Vanda-Kon wrote:General Tiberius1 wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:I just played three horrific games that were losses from the word go. First game I didn't realize we had people going 0/0 until the end of the match. The next match was just as bad, so halfway through I checked the score-sheet and started to see the same names from the previous game on my team. Did I team kill them? No. Did I send hate mail? No. I sent about ten blank emails to the person of a recognizable corp. What we have here is failure to communicate!. In my opinion, I hope you'll agree, the spam blank mail now represents hate mail to MCC squatters. It's about the same amount of effort.
The next match I scanned the MCC at the very start of the match. Three non movers. I knew another loss was coming. We wont beat them. So I thought, "If you can't beat them, join the ones who didn't join you in beating them", and I almost started to farm SP myself like a big hypocrite. No, I couldn't do it. I just shut the PS3 off after three games. Yay, fun.
Yeah, I know, cool story bro. There will be a sequel if this rotten gamesmanship continues. To all you real players, add these farming wasteoids to your contacts and spam them with blank mail then delete their contacts. If not that, please do not join the corps of these players.
If someone wants to compile a blacklist of these players and their corps . . . . run some names in the mud. They are killing the dust community.
The only other way is for absolutely everybody to farm skill until CCP realizes nobody is on the battlefield. hey, don't hate on us, it's called burn out, we can't stand playing the game anymore, but we believe in it's promise. so what do we do? we afk farm so we're not left in the dust. they're pub matches, get over it, they're only there to gain SP and isk Some people can play the game, and your burn out excuse is causing other players to dislike all the marketplace skills that seem more important than the actual gameplay. All you Eve number fiends are cool and all, but don't expect Dust to compete with other shooters if the fighting takes a backseat to endless leveling up where no fight is needed.
you're new to the eve universe, aren't you
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Minmatar Slave 74136
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
294
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Posted - 2013.03.26 06:16:00 -
[78] - Quote
Auto-eject from MCC after time limit. Watching an AFKer go squish on the ground below would provide me some comedy value. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
608
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 06:16:00 -
[79] - Quote
Deadeyes Anterie wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:
nice post.
I agree with you I don't like it either but you must remember why we have it. To let the players that don't get a lot of WP's for the time spent in battle. It helps them get ISK and SP where otherwise they would be left further behind. That is how you would solve this problem, figure out a way to let the less skilled receive points while not letting others abuse the system. I have came up with my own idea instead of QQing about it like others but that would deserve its own post.
That was the point of putting multipliers on points. The first 250 earned WP would be = to 1250 WP earned on the higher tiered levels. It means the bad players would still get nice adjustment to their tiny WP scores to ensure they got decent rewards, and players on the high end would still be getting rewards well into the 2,000 and 3,000 WP marks (although massively diminished) Basically it's a system that rewards extremely well at the start, and tappers off at tiers to ensure the top tier players are not getting insane rewards. It just takes out the free lunch rewards for doing nothing. I think it would also result in a better feeling of purpose on the battlefield when you are rewarded for what you do instead of just existing. Sounds good, +1
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JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
184
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 06:19:00 -
[80] - Quote
Deadeyes Anterie wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:
nice post.
I agree with you I don't like it either but you must remember why we have it. To let the players that don't get a lot of WP's for the time spent in battle. It helps them get ISK and SP where otherwise they would be left further behind. That is how you would solve this problem, figure out a way to let the less skilled receive points while not letting others abuse the system. I have came up with my own idea instead of QQing about it like others but that would deserve its own post.
That was the point of putting multipliers on points. The first 250 earned WP would be = to 1250 WP earned on the higher tiered levels. It means the bad players would still get nice adjustment to their tiny WP scores to ensure they got decent rewards, and players on the high end would still be getting rewards well into the 2,000 and 3,000 WP marks (although massively diminished) Basically it's a system that rewards extremely well at the start, and tappers off at tiers to ensure the top tier players are not getting insane rewards. It just takes out the free lunch rewards for doing nothing. I think it would also result in a better feeling of purpose on the battlefield when you are rewarded for what you do instead of just existing.
I see where you are going but that is not helping the situation. You are showing favoritism to the unskilled and not helping them learn the ropes to actually be better players. For example if you wanted to train players to be more aggressive you would give them SP for being around objectives where kills are taking place or objectives are being taken. If they are snipers maybe points for spotting and add more points to assists. Basically no points for just showing up. |
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JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
184
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 06:21:00 -
[81] - Quote
Deadeyes Anterie wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:
Everyone must play like I play or I'm telling. That's what I hear.
A better analogy is you find out your neighbor is committing fraud and earning a **** ton of cash, that's not really my business so whatever. Then you both go the the auction to buy **** and he outbids you on everything. Now you are probably going to be a little pissed. If it wasn't going to be a free market economy I doubt many people would give two fucks, but some people have foresight.
Your analogy is invalid mainly because it is not fraud when the government (CPP) see no wrong in it. (Yea they said it themselves) |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
114
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Posted - 2013.03.26 06:23:00 -
[82] - Quote
JL3Eleven wrote: If we only have passive why would I bother actually playing?
We would bother actually playing to win the game. Maybe you're too busy passing out boo-hoo tissues to know about this new concept, winning the game, where activity is required to overcome your equally active opponent. Hint: Sometimes achieving a purpose or reaching a goal within that game will contribute to a win, and other players want that. Highly competitive daydreaming in the marketplace is not the game.
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
180
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 06:23:00 -
[83] - Quote
JL3Eleven wrote:Deadeyes Anterie wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:
Everyone must play like I play or I'm telling. That's what I hear.
A better analogy is you find out your neighbor is committing fraud and earning a **** ton of cash, that's not really my business so whatever. Then you both go the the auction to buy **** and he outbids you on everything. Now you are probably going to be a little pissed. If it wasn't going to be a free market economy I doubt many people would give two fucks, but some people have foresight. Your analogy is invalid mainly because it is not fraud when the government (CPP) see no wrong in it. (Yea they said it themselves)
II think you'll find that CCP does see this as wrong. |
Rusty Shallows
Creative Killers
26
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Posted - 2013.03.26 06:23:00 -
[84] - Quote
Minmatar Slave 74136 wrote:Auto-eject from MCC after time limit. Watching an AFKer go squish on the ground below would provide me some comedy value. Heck, why is there even a jump deck at all? Having to spawn and walk out takes up my valuable kill'n time... or die'n time depending whose in the fight. |
JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
184
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 06:24:00 -
[85] - Quote
Buster Friently wrote:JL3Eleven wrote: You did not post a solution. If we only have passive why would I bother actually playing? I would make the same?
But since I cannot read. Da herpa derpa derp back at ya.
You might not bother playing. I count you in the group of worthless afkers after all. If you enjoy playing dust intrinsically (look it up) then you don't need an extrinsic stimulus. If all you want is to see your sp go up, please feel free to play click a cow, I hear it has no click cap.
Please QQ in the corner. Your tears are getting my socks wet.
Do you have any solutions or just tears? |
Deadeyes Anterie
Ill Omens
318
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 06:25:00 -
[86] - Quote
JL3Eleven wrote:Deadeyes Anterie wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:
nice post.
I agree with you I don't like it either but you must remember why we have it. To let the players that don't get a lot of WP's for the time spent in battle. It helps them get ISK and SP where otherwise they would be left further behind. That is how you would solve this problem, figure out a way to let the less skilled receive points while not letting others abuse the system. I have came up with my own idea instead of QQing about it like others but that would deserve its own post.
That was the point of putting multipliers on points. The first 250 earned WP would be = to 1250 WP earned on the higher tiered levels. It means the bad players would still get nice adjustment to their tiny WP scores to ensure they got decent rewards, and players on the high end would still be getting rewards well into the 2,000 and 3,000 WP marks (although massively diminished) Basically it's a system that rewards extremely well at the start, and tappers off at tiers to ensure the top tier players are not getting insane rewards. It just takes out the free lunch rewards for doing nothing. I think it would also result in a better feeling of purpose on the battlefield when you are rewarded for what you do instead of just existing. I see where you are going but that is not helping the situation. You are showing favoritism to the unskilled and not helping them learn the ropes to actually be better players. For example if you wanted to train players to be more aggressive you would give them SP for being around objectives where kills are taking place or objectives are being taken. If they are snipers maybe points for spotting and add more points to assists. Basically no points for just showing up.
I'm all for reworking the SP system as well don't get my wrong. I am just saying rewards for actions is a step in the right direction over rewards for doing absolutely nothing. The reason CCP picked the rewards for doing nothing is it's easier to implement and it will reward players who don't do **** and keep them playing the game (look at all the redline snipers who are happy with 100-200WP). |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
286
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 06:26:00 -
[87] - Quote
Minmatar Slave 74136 wrote:Auto-eject from MCC after time limit. Watching an AFKer go squish on the ground below would provide me some comedy value.
hey! i also suicide back-flip out of it in event matches were i'm throwing it in favor of the enemies
(chasing afkers who reailise i'm after them is also quite funny) |
JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
184
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 06:26:00 -
[88] - Quote
Buster Friently wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Deadeyes Anterie wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:
Everyone must play like I play or I'm telling. That's what I hear.
A better analogy is you find out your neighbor is committing fraud and earning a **** ton of cash, that's not really my business so whatever. Then you both go the the auction to buy **** and he outbids you on everything. Now you are probably going to be a little pissed. If it wasn't going to be a free market economy I doubt many people would give two fucks, but some people have foresight. Your analogy is invalid mainly because it is not fraud when the government (CPP) see no wrong in it. (Yea they said it themselves) II think you'll find that CCP does see this as wrong.
They don't like it because their hands are tied trying to help the newberries.
But they allow it. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
180
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 06:27:00 -
[89] - Quote
JL3Eleven wrote:Buster Friently wrote:JL3Eleven wrote: You did not post a solution. If we only have passive why would I bother actually playing? I would make the same?
But since I cannot read. Da herpa derpa derp back at ya.
You might not bother playing. I count you in the group of worthless afkers after all. If you enjoy playing dust intrinsically (look it up) then you don't need an extrinsic stimulus. If all you want is to see your sp go up, please feel free to play click a cow, I hear it has no click cap. Please QQ in the corner. Your tears are getting my socks wet. Do you have any solutions or just tears?
Wow. Were you born this stupid?
Funny how you're the only one that can't read my solution. Sorry buddy, tutors for tots time is over. If you don't get it by now, well - good luck.
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JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
184
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 06:31:00 -
[90] - Quote
Buster Friently wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Buster Friently wrote:JL3Eleven wrote: You did not post a solution. If we only have passive why would I bother actually playing? I would make the same?
But since I cannot read. Da herpa derpa derp back at ya.
You might not bother playing. I count you in the group of worthless afkers after all. If you enjoy playing dust intrinsically (look it up) then you don't need an extrinsic stimulus. If all you want is to see your sp go up, please feel free to play click a cow, I hear it has no click cap. Please QQ in the corner. Your tears are getting my socks wet. Do you have any solutions or just tears? Wow. Were you born this stupid? Funny how you're the only one that can't read my solution. Sorry buddy, tutors for tots time is over. If you don't get it by now, well - good luck.
Passive SP is not the answer. What incentive would I have to keep playing that extra hour if I will make the same SP without playing?
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JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
184
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 06:33:00 -
[91] - Quote
Deadeyes Anterie wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Deadeyes Anterie wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:
nice post.
I agree with you I don't like it either but you must remember why we have it. To let the players that don't get a lot of WP's for the time spent in battle. It helps them get ISK and SP where otherwise they would be left further behind. That is how you would solve this problem, figure out a way to let the less skilled receive points while not letting others abuse the system. I have came up with my own idea instead of QQing about it like others but that would deserve its own post.
That was the point of putting multipliers on points. The first 250 earned WP would be = to 1250 WP earned on the higher tiered levels. It means the bad players would still get nice adjustment to their tiny WP scores to ensure they got decent rewards, and players on the high end would still be getting rewards well into the 2,000 and 3,000 WP marks (although massively diminished) Basically it's a system that rewards extremely well at the start, and tappers off at tiers to ensure the top tier players are not getting insane rewards. It just takes out the free lunch rewards for doing nothing. I think it would also result in a better feeling of purpose on the battlefield when you are rewarded for what you do instead of just existing. I see where you are going but that is not helping the situation. You are showing favoritism to the unskilled and not helping them learn the ropes to actually be better players. For example if you wanted to train players to be more aggressive you would give them SP for being around objectives where kills are taking place or objectives are being taken. If they are snipers maybe points for spotting and add more points to assists. Basically no points for just showing up. I'm all for reworking the SP system as well don't get my wrong. I am just saying rewards for actions is a step in the right direction over rewards for doing absolutely nothing. The reason CCP picked the rewards for doing nothing is it's easier to implement and it will reward players who don't do **** and keep them playing the game (look at all the redline snipers who are happy with 100-200WP). It's true my system would still reward 250 WP with 2,500 SP because you can't weed out the players with no skill, and the ones who don't try. I still think my system is 10x better than giving them 5,000 SP and giving a player with 2,000 WP 8,500 SP 0WP should be rewarded with 0SP and 0ISK, anyone who disagrees with that has some serious problems. They probably are displaying all the trophies they got for getting last place in all their Sports Leauges.
Yea.. I fear they will cater to the masses and make no one happy.
I agree with the 0/0/0. |
Deadeyes Anterie
Ill Omens
318
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 06:34:00 -
[92] - Quote
Buster Friently wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Buster Friently wrote:JL3Eleven wrote: You did not post a solution. If we only have passive why would I bother actually playing? I would make the same?
But since I cannot read. Da herpa derpa derp back at ya.
You might not bother playing. I count you in the group of worthless afkers after all. If you enjoy playing dust intrinsically (look it up) then you don't need an extrinsic stimulus. If all you want is to see your sp go up, please feel free to play click a cow, I hear it has no click cap. Please QQ in the corner. Your tears are getting my socks wet. Do you have any solutions or just tears? Wow. Were you born this stupid? Funny how you're the only one that can't read my solution. Sorry buddy, tutors for tots time is over. If you don't get it by now, well - good luck.
Passive Only SP is not a good solution. Here are some problems.
There is no incentive to play to make your character better. This is a primary motivator for many players and it's the reason the playerbase is still a decent size. Encouraging active play from members is a great boon for the game and community.
There is no monthly subscription. Passive only SP works in EvE because players are already paying you money. When you take the rewards for active gameplay, and you don't have the player on a sub you are going to lose a ton of activity, and customers.
The game functions on loss during gameplay. This means the more people play the more AUR gear is lost an in turn the more money CCP makes. They want to encourage tons of gameplay, and a good way to do this is require 8-10 hours of gameplay a week in order to Cap out your SP.
The game divides active and SP boosters, this means customers have more options, and in turn more appealing ways to spend their money.
A passive only SP system means you can never get better faster through gameplay. Much like EvE you would never get better than someone who started before you even if you play 10x as much. There is no place for this system in a FPS. |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
115
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 06:35:00 -
[93] - Quote
JL3Eleven wrote:Buster Friently wrote:JL3Eleven wrote: You did not post a solution. If we only have passive why would I bother actually playing? I would make the same?
But since I cannot read. Da herpa derpa derp back at ya.
You might not bother playing. I count you in the group of worthless afkers after all. If you enjoy playing dust intrinsically (look it up) then you don't need an extrinsic stimulus. If all you want is to see your sp go up, please feel free to play click a cow, I hear it has no click cap. Please QQ in the corner. Your tears are getting my socks wet. Do you have any solutions or just tears?
Yeah, solution, make you cry so hard you flood the MCC, drowning all AFKers.
Nobody has solutions, only suggestions. CCP does the solving. And pointing out that other players haven't solved it, doesn't hide the fact that you entered this thread in support of farming. Or make you superior, since you can't implement any kind of solution yourself.
The MCC should drip with your tears. We can hang your socks on a null cannon to dry. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
968
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 06:35:00 -
[94] - Quote
you guys mad about AFK Farmers? Read https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=65889&find=unread |
JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
184
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 06:36:00 -
[95] - Quote
Vanda-Kon wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Buster Friently wrote:JL3Eleven wrote: You did not post a solution. If we only have passive why would I bother actually playing? I would make the same?
But since I cannot read. Da herpa derpa derp back at ya.
You might not bother playing. I count you in the group of worthless afkers after all. If you enjoy playing dust intrinsically (look it up) then you don't need an extrinsic stimulus. If all you want is to see your sp go up, please feel free to play click a cow, I hear it has no click cap. Please QQ in the corner. Your tears are getting my socks wet. Do you have any solutions or just tears? Yeah, solution, make you cry so hard you flood the MCC, drowning all AFKers. Nobody has solutions, only suggestions. CCP does the solving. And pointing out that other players haven't solved it, doesn't hide the fact that you entered this thread in support of farming. Or make you superior, since you can't implement any kind of solution yourself. The MCC should drip with your tears. We can hang your socks on a null cannon to dry.
I can be the devils advocate without being the devil you know? or do you? |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
286
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 06:39:00 -
[96] - Quote
Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:
lol, actively participating in that one too |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
115
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 06:40:00 -
[97] - Quote
JL3Eleven wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Buster Friently wrote:JL3Eleven wrote: You did not post a solution. If we only have passive why would I bother actually playing? I would make the same?
But since I cannot read. Da herpa derpa derp back at ya.
You might not bother playing. I count you in the group of worthless afkers after all. If you enjoy playing dust intrinsically (look it up) then you don't need an extrinsic stimulus. If all you want is to see your sp go up, please feel free to play click a cow, I hear it has no click cap. Please QQ in the corner. Your tears are getting my socks wet. Do you have any solutions or just tears? Yeah, solution, make you cry so hard you flood the MCC, drowning all AFKers. Nobody has solutions, only suggestions. CCP does the solving. And pointing out that other players haven't solved it, doesn't hide the fact that you entered this thread in support of farming. Or make you superior, since you can't implement any kind of solution yourself. The MCC should drip with your tears. We can hang your socks on a null cannon to dry. I can be the devils advocate without being the devil you know? or do you?
No, I'm pretty sure you're the devil. |
Deadeyes Anterie
Ill Omens
320
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 06:42:00 -
[98] - Quote
I hate the whole blame only CCP nonsense.
Do they deserve the most blame, yes of course. Their rewards system is extremely bad and it shows they are just trying to retain as many people as possible with it instead of you know reward people for what they do in battle.
Players also have to accept some blame because at the end of the day getting something for nothing as an unintended consequence while negatively effecting others is a selfish act. Being selfish while ruining other peoples games means other people will be annoyed with you. So if you are going to be a jerk and AFK, at least take responsibility for it. Don't blame CCP for your own personal actions.
You should be here to pillage other peoples land and women in game, or you know try to make the game better. Being a pest is well |
JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
184
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 06:46:00 -
[99] - Quote
[quote=Vanda-Kon]Quote: No, I'm pretty sure you're the devil.
Thanks |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
286
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 06:48:00 -
[100] - Quote
Deadeyes Anterie wrote:I hate the whole blame only CCP nonsense. Do they deserve the most blame, yes of course. Their rewards system is extremely bad and it shows they are just trying to retain as many people as possible with it instead of you know reward people for what they do in battle. Players also have to accept some blame because at the end of the day getting something for nothing as an unintended consequence while negatively effecting others is a selfish act. Being selfish while ruining other peoples games means other people will be annoyed with you. So if you are going to be a jerk and AFK, at least take responsibility for it. Don't blame CCP for your own personal actions. You should be here to pillage other peoples land and women in game, or you know try to make the game better. Being a pest is well
you mean you don't already do that?
we're faceless mercs, what are they going to do? sue us? |
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JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
184
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 06:48:00 -
[101] - Quote
Skirmish is currently broken so everyone is AFKing. Some people are just losing suits. - Devil |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
286
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 06:48:00 -
[102] - Quote
JL3Eleven wrote:[quote=Vanda-Kon] Quote: No, I'm pretty sure you're the devil.
Thanks
awwww, i want to be the devil |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
286
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 06:49:00 -
[103] - Quote
JL3Eleven wrote:Skirmish is currently broken so everyone is AFKing. Some people are just losing suits. - Devil
skirmish IS broken, if i wanted to fight, i'd go into ambush |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Daringly Inserting Large Dangerous Objects
48
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 06:49:00 -
[104] - Quote
i really don't see where its all going besides QQing and agruing over who has the best insults. guess what happens when the afkers hit the sp cap.0wp=0sp |
Deadeyes Anterie
Ill Omens
320
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 06:51:00 -
[105] - Quote
ladwar wrote:i really don't see where its all going besides QQing and agruing over who has the best insults. guess what happens when the afkers hit the sp cap.0wp=0sp
I doubt it, it's probably just time to switch characters. |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
115
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 06:52:00 -
[106] - Quote
Deadeyes Anterie wrote:I hate the whole blame only CCP nonsense.
Do they deserve the most blame, yes of course. Their rewards system is extremely bad and it shows they are just trying to retain as many people as possible with it instead of you know reward people for what they do in battle.
Players also have to accept some blame because at the end of the day getting something for nothing as an unintended consequence while negatively effecting others is a selfish act. Being selfish while ruining other peoples games means other people will be annoyed with you. So if you are going to be a jerk and AFK, at least take responsibility for it. Don't blame CCP for your own personal actions.
You're right, CCP shouldn't get the blame, at first. You would think that if you told other players, hey, you're messing up what could be a good thing, they'd naturally respond for the good of the game, without needing devs to create entire line of don't be a d-bag code.
The mere fact that the known players from known corps are doing this and none of the ceo's seem to be denouncing it among their members shows that skill and honor are not always shared by top players. |
Deadeyes Anterie
Ill Omens
320
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 06:55:00 -
[107] - Quote
General Tiberius1 wrote:Deadeyes Anterie wrote:I hate the whole blame only CCP nonsense. Do they deserve the most blame, yes of course. Their rewards system is extremely bad and it shows they are just trying to retain as many people as possible with it instead of you know reward people for what they do in battle. Players also have to accept some blame because at the end of the day getting something for nothing as an unintended consequence while negatively effecting others is a selfish act. Being selfish while ruining other peoples games means other people will be annoyed with you. So if you are going to be a jerk and AFK, at least take responsibility for it. Don't blame CCP for your own personal actions. You should be here to pillage other peoples land and women in game, or you know try to make the game better. Being a pest is well you mean you don't already do that? we're faceless mercs, what are they going to do? sue us?
I guess I just don't take any satisfaction when the pillaging is consensual.
^ I realize that makes me sound like a rapist. |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
115
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 06:55:00 -
[108] - Quote
General Tiberius1 wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:[quote=Vanda-Kon] Quote: No, I'm pretty sure you're the devil.
Thanks awwww, i want to be the devil
don't worry, you can still be the evil guy from WWII. |
Deadeyes Anterie
Ill Omens
320
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 06:57:00 -
[109] - Quote
Vanda-Kon wrote:Deadeyes Anterie wrote:I hate the whole blame only CCP nonsense.
Do they deserve the most blame, yes of course. Their rewards system is extremely bad and it shows they are just trying to retain as many people as possible with it instead of you know reward people for what they do in battle.
Players also have to accept some blame because at the end of the day getting something for nothing as an unintended consequence while negatively effecting others is a selfish act. Being selfish while ruining other peoples games means other people will be annoyed with you. So if you are going to be a jerk and AFK, at least take responsibility for it. Don't blame CCP for your own personal actions. You're right, CCP shouldn't get the blame, at first. You would think that if you told other players, hey, you're messing up what could be a good thing, they'd naturally respond for the good of the game, without needing devs to create entire line of don't be a d-bag code. The mere fact that the known players from known corps are doing this and none of the ceo's seem to be denouncing it among their members shows that skill and honor are not always shared by top players.
Power > Honor
No CEO would denounce AFK'ing if it was making his mercenaries more powerful. |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
115
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 06:59:00 -
[110] - Quote
JL3Eleven wrote:[quote=Vanda-Kon] Quote: No, I'm pretty sure you're the devil.
Thanks
Not even close to welcome. |
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crazy space 1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
960
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 07:00:00 -
[111] - Quote
Whatever it's just a broken beta. I mean it's not like they won't be reseting AUR becuase making you pay real money for a game with gaint borken bugs and unfinished design would be crazy right?
oh wait... |
JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
184
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 07:00:00 -
[112] - Quote
Vanda-Kon wrote:General Tiberius1 wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:[quote=Vanda-Kon] Quote: No, I'm pretty sure you're the devil.
Thanks awwww, i want to be the devil don't worry, you can still be the evil guy from WWII.
Not cool. |
crazy space 1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
960
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 07:02:00 -
[113] - Quote
Buster Friently wrote:Afkers are pathetic trash. I've learned to feel a little bit sorry for them. I mean, what kind of loser must you be to afk farm sp in a game that already gives you passive SP?
The behavior definitely taints the game as a whole, but know they won't last long. Last night I AFK farmed the MCC becuase my girlfriend surprized me by taking her top off. But not only did I get laid, I also got a ton of isk and sp. Ca Ching |
Deadeyes Anterie
Ill Omens
320
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 07:03:00 -
[114] - Quote
crazy space 1 wrote:Whatever it's just a broken beta. I mean it's not like they won't be reseting AUR becuase making you pay real money for a game with gaint borken bugs and unfinished design would be crazy right?
oh wait...
I'm thinking I should get into the video game business. I hear people just throw money at you |
JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
184
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 07:03:00 -
[115] - Quote
crazy space 1 wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Afkers are pathetic trash. I've learned to feel a little bit sorry for them. I mean, what kind of loser must you be to afk farm sp in a game that already gives you passive SP?
The behavior definitely taints the game as a whole, but know they won't last long. Last night I AFK farmed the MCC becuase my girlfriend surprized me by taking her top off. But not only did I get laid, I also got a ton of isk and sp. Ca Ching
Well done Sir!!!!
*Claps loudly |
Deadeyes Anterie
Ill Omens
320
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 07:03:00 -
[116] - Quote
crazy space 1 wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Afkers are pathetic trash. I've learned to feel a little bit sorry for them. I mean, what kind of loser must you be to afk farm sp in a game that already gives you passive SP?
The behavior definitely taints the game as a whole, but know they won't last long. Last night I AFK farmed the MCC becuase my girlfriend surprized me by taking her top off. But not only did I get laid, I also got a ton of isk and sp. Ca Ching
This is the first valid reason I've heard to AFK. |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
115
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 07:05:00 -
[117] - Quote
Deadeyes Anterie wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:Deadeyes Anterie wrote:I hate the whole blame only CCP nonsense.
Do they deserve the most blame, yes of course. Their rewards system is extremely bad and it shows they are just trying to retain as many people as possible with it instead of you know reward people for what they do in battle.
Players also have to accept some blame because at the end of the day getting something for nothing as an unintended consequence while negatively effecting others is a selfish act. Being selfish while ruining other peoples games means other people will be annoyed with you. So if you are going to be a jerk and AFK, at least take responsibility for it. Don't blame CCP for your own personal actions. You're right, CCP shouldn't get the blame, at first. You would think that if you told other players, hey, you're messing up what could be a good thing, they'd naturally respond for the good of the game, without needing devs to create entire line of don't be a d-bag code. The mere fact that the known players from known corps are doing this and none of the ceo's seem to be denouncing it among their members shows that skill and honor are not always shared by top players. Power > Honor No CEO would denounce AFK'ing if it was making his mercenaries more powerful.
True, these players usually do it when they are solo anyway. That type of power is an illusion. If those players have bad player ethics, they'll probably do shady things inside their corps and corps like that will crumble or just fade over time.
Power is no more honor than time is money. Time is time before it's money. And so it goes, honor first. Longer lasting too. |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
115
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 07:08:00 -
[118] - Quote
Vanda-Kon wrote:[quote=General Tiberius1] Not cool.
I actually thought you were vying for the devil, not being sarcastic. Sorry bout that. Shoulda noticed the icons uprolled eyes. |
Deadeyes Anterie
Ill Omens
320
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 07:09:00 -
[119] - Quote
Vanda-Kon wrote:Deadeyes Anterie wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:Deadeyes Anterie wrote:I hate the whole blame only CCP nonsense.
Do they deserve the most blame, yes of course. Their rewards system is extremely bad and it shows they are just trying to retain as many people as possible with it instead of you know reward people for what they do in battle.
Players also have to accept some blame because at the end of the day getting something for nothing as an unintended consequence while negatively effecting others is a selfish act. Being selfish while ruining other peoples games means other people will be annoyed with you. So if you are going to be a jerk and AFK, at least take responsibility for it. Don't blame CCP for your own personal actions. You're right, CCP shouldn't get the blame, at first. You would think that if you told other players, hey, you're messing up what could be a good thing, they'd naturally respond for the good of the game, without needing devs to create entire line of don't be a d-bag code. The mere fact that the known players from known corps are doing this and none of the ceo's seem to be denouncing it among their members shows that skill and honor are not always shared by top players. Power > Honor No CEO would denounce AFK'ing if it was making his mercenaries more powerful. True, these players usually do it when they are solo anyway. That type of power is an illusion. If those players have bad player ethics, they'll probably do shady things inside their corps and corps like that will crumble or just fade over time. Power is no more honor than time is money. Time is time before it's money. And so it goes, honor first. Longer lasting too.
I don't know man the people who AFK are usually the people who play so ******* much they just can't take any more matches. It's rare to see someone with less than 5,000 kills AFK.
It's a comforting thought that they will not be anything, but in all reality the people who are obsessed with ISK and SP farming are the ones who will probably be the most successful Mercs. They are going after any edge in battle at any cost, and that is usually a winning formula. Sure a lot of people hate you but it doesn't really bother them when they stomp your face into the ground. |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
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Posted - 2013.03.26 07:10:00 -
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Deadeyes Anterie wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Afkers are pathetic trash. I've learned to feel a little bit sorry for them. I mean, what kind of loser must you be to afk farm sp in a game that already gives you passive SP?
The behavior definitely taints the game as a whole, but know they won't last long. Last night I AFK farmed the MCC becuase my girlfriend surprized me by taking her top off. But not only did I get laid, I also got a ton of isk and sp. Ca Ching This is the first valid reason I've heard to AFK.
If I have to take a phone call, I consider leaving the game for the sake of others who want to win. But hey, congrats on the extra null cannon blast. |
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ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Daringly Inserting Large Dangerous Objects
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Posted - 2013.03.26 07:10:00 -
[121] - Quote
Deadeyes Anterie wrote:ladwar wrote:i really don't see where its all going besides QQing and agruing over who has the best insults. guess what happens when the afkers hit the sp cap.0wp=0sp I doubt it, it's probably just time to switch characters. i going to bet it doesn't take a full week to afk cap out all of their characters unless they are doing shadely under the table sales of accounts. |
JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
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Posted - 2013.03.26 07:11:00 -
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Vanda-Kon wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:[quote=General Tiberius1] Not cool. I actually thought you were vying for the devil, not being sarcastic. Sorry bout that. Shoulda noticed the icons uprolled eyes.
No man/woman that's just not cool. at all. ever. Talking about ethics my butt. |
Deadeyes Anterie
Ill Omens
320
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Posted - 2013.03.26 07:15:00 -
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JL3Eleven wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:[quote=General Tiberius1] Not cool. I actually thought you were vying for the devil, not being sarcastic. Sorry bout that. Shoulda noticed the icons uprolled eyes. No man/woman that's just not cool. at all. ever. Talking about ethics my butt.
A bunny acting sensitive, now I know there is some trolling going on. Nice try, and he probably would have fallen for it. You are . |
JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
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Posted - 2013.03.26 07:19:00 -
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Deadeyes Anterie wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:[quote=General Tiberius1] Not cool. I actually thought you were vying for the devil, not being sarcastic. Sorry bout that. Shoulda noticed the icons uprolled eyes. No man/woman that's just not cool. at all. ever. Talking about ethics my butt. A bunny acting sensitive, now I know there is some trolling going on. Nice try, and he probably would have fallen for it. You are .
I haz feelings ya know. But yea ****** jokes went out long ago.
Edit: wow you cannot even say his name. wonder why? |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
116
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Posted - 2013.03.26 07:20:00 -
[125] - Quote
Deadeyes Anterie wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:Deadeyes Anterie wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:Deadeyes Anterie wrote:I hate the whole blame only CCP nonsense.
Do they deserve the most blame, yes of course. Their rewards system is extremely bad and it shows they are just trying to retain as many people as possible with it instead of you know reward people for what they do in battle.
Players also have to accept some blame because at the end of the day getting something for nothing as an unintended consequence while negatively effecting others is a selfish act. Being selfish while ruining other peoples games means other people will be annoyed with you. So if you are going to be a jerk and AFK, at least take responsibility for it. Don't blame CCP for your own personal actions. You're right, CCP shouldn't get the blame, at first. You would think that if you told other players, hey, you're messing up what could be a good thing, they'd naturally respond for the good of the game, without needing devs to create entire line of don't be a d-bag code. The mere fact that the known players from known corps are doing this and none of the ceo's seem to be denouncing it among their members shows that skill and honor are not always shared by top players. Power > Honor No CEO would denounce AFK'ing if it was making his mercenaries more powerful. True, these players usually do it when they are solo anyway. That type of power is an illusion. If those players have bad player ethics, they'll probably do shady things inside their corps and corps like that will crumble or just fade over time. Power is no more honor than time is money. Time is time before it's money. And so it goes, honor first. Longer lasting too. I don't know man the people who AFK are usually the people who play so ******* much they just can't take any more matches. It's rare to see someone with less than 5,000 kills AFK. It's a comforting thought that they will not be anything, but in all reality the people who are obsessed with ISK and SP farming are the ones who will probably be the most successful Mercs. They are going after any edge in battle at any cost, and that is usually a winning formula. Sure a lot of people hate you but it doesn't really bother them when they stomp your face into the ground.
Yes, you see, this happens in other games too, people get tired of the same maps, ect, but they don't actually continue to "play" the game. They play another game, or do something else that entertains them. They don't ruin the game for other people not as tired.
Say what you will about skills and the ability to win with those skills, but if you don't have a good gaming community, the risk is that community won't grow. No more stomping faces into the ground.
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General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
286
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Posted - 2013.03.26 07:22:00 -
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Vanda-Kon wrote:General Tiberius1 wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:[quote=Vanda-Kon] Quote: No, I'm pretty sure you're the devil.
Thanks awwww, i want to be the devil don't worry, you can still be the evil guy from WWII.
awww, no one likes HIM! |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
286
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Posted - 2013.03.26 07:25:00 -
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JL3Eleven wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:[quote=General Tiberius1] Not cool. I actually thought you were vying for the devil, not being sarcastic. Sorry bout that. Shoulda noticed the icons uprolled eyes. No man/woman that's just not cool. at all. ever. Talking about ethics my butt.
why is my name involved in this |
Deadeyes Anterie
Ill Omens
320
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Posted - 2013.03.26 07:25:00 -
[128] - Quote
Vanda-Kon wrote:
don't worry, you can still be the evil guy from WWII.
How can I pick from so many of them?
My American public school education has taught me that anyone who opposed US interests was evil. |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
116
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Posted - 2013.03.26 07:27:00 -
[129] - Quote
Somehow gladly accepting the role of the devil is okay because that's like pretend glamorous evil and the other guy is in bad taste. I actually thought they both wanted to be the devil, so I didn't think I was making too big a leap in the joke department. Then I appoligized. I still have more ethics than the guy who wants to be the devil. Thread related, afkers go to hell. |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
286
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Posted - 2013.03.26 07:28:00 -
[130] - Quote
Deadeyes Anterie wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:
don't worry, you can still be the evil guy from WWII.
How can I pick from so many of them? My American public school education has taught me that anyone who opposed US interests was evil.
oh, that's low, you know the US public school system isn't intelligent enough to defend itself |
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General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
286
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Posted - 2013.03.26 07:29:00 -
[131] - Quote
Vanda-Kon wrote:Somehow gladly accepting the role of the devil is okay because that's like pretend glamorous evil and the other guy is in bad taste. I actually thought they both wanted to be the devil, so I didn't think I was making too big a leap in the joke department. Then I appoligized. I still have more ethics than the guy who wants to be the devil. Thread related, afkers go to hell.
HEY!!! |
JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
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Posted - 2013.03.26 07:30:00 -
[132] - Quote
Deadeyes Anterie wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:
don't worry, you can still be the evil guy from WWII.
How can I pick from so many of them? My American public school education has taught me that anyone who opposed US interests was evil.
Really? your just being pathetic now. |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
286
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Posted - 2013.03.26 07:32:00 -
[133] - Quote
JL3Eleven wrote:Deadeyes Anterie wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:
don't worry, you can still be the evil guy from WWII.
How can I pick from so many of them? My American public school education has taught me that anyone who opposed US interests was evil. Really? your just being pathetic now.
it's late for most of us, give him a break, at least he's keeping it alive.
(and no one commented on me video?) |
JL3Eleven
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Posted - 2013.03.26 07:32:00 -
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Vanda-Kon wrote:Somehow gladly accepting the role of the devil is okay because that's like pretend glamorous evil and the other guy is in bad taste. I actually thought they both wanted to be the devil, so I didn't think I was making too big a leap in the joke department. Then I appoligized. I still have more ethics than the guy who wants to be the devil. Thread related, afkers go to hell.
umadbro? |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
116
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Posted - 2013.03.26 07:34:00 -
[135] - Quote
Deadeyes Anterie wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:
don't worry, you can still be the evil guy from WWII.
How can I pick from so many of them? My American public school education has taught me that anyone who opposed US interests was evil.
Yeah, thought about that, once the forum banned the H name. I bet there were evil guys around during WWII but didn't actually fight in that war or oppose the interests of any nation. The were just evil elsewhere, in the same time period. So you see, AFKer's, you have plenty of evil opitions. |
ReGnYuM LEGENDof DEI
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
40
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Posted - 2013.03.26 07:34:00 -
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I would AFK Farm, but my W/L ratio is too high and I'm kinda a STAT ***** |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
116
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Posted - 2013.03.26 07:35:00 -
[137] - Quote
JL3Eleven wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:Somehow gladly accepting the role of the devil is okay because that's like pretend glamorous evil and the other guy is in bad taste. I actually thought they both wanted to be the devil, so I didn't think I was making too big a leap in the joke department. Then I appoligized. I still have more ethics than the guy who wants to be the devil. Thread related, afkers go to hell. umadbro?
nope. But I do admit when I'm wrong. |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
286
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Posted - 2013.03.26 07:37:00 -
[138] - Quote
Vanda-Kon wrote:Deadeyes Anterie wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:
don't worry, you can still be the evil guy from WWII.
How can I pick from so many of them? My American public school education has taught me that anyone who opposed US interests was evil. Yeah, thought about that, once the forum banned the H name. I bet there were evil guys around during WWII but didn't actually fight in that war or oppose the interests of any nation. The were just evil elsewhere, in the same time period. So you see, AFKer's, you have plenty of evil options.
personally, i think Stalin was worse.
he just didn't inspire a modern day cult of **** heads |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
116
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Posted - 2013.03.26 07:39:00 -
[139] - Quote
ReGnYuM LEGENDof DEI wrote:I would AFK Farm, but my W/L ratio is too high and I'm kinda a STAT *****
You're also the best player in the game, so it wouldn't make sense.
Curious how you do when you run solo. I bet still good. But W/L ratio wise. |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
286
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Posted - 2013.03.26 07:41:00 -
[140] - Quote
Vanda-Kon wrote:ReGnYuM LEGENDof DEI wrote:I would AFK Farm, but my W/L ratio is too high and I'm kinda a STAT ***** You're also the best player in the game, so it wouldn't make sense. Curious how you do when you run solo. I bet still good. But W/L ratio wise.
never heard of him
protoman was the best back in closed beta if i recall correctly |
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JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
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Posted - 2013.03.26 07:41:00 -
[141] - Quote
Vanda-Kon wrote:ReGnYuM LEGENDof DEI wrote:I would AFK Farm, but my W/L ratio is too high and I'm kinda a STAT ***** You're also the best player in the game, so it wouldn't make sense. Curious how you do when you run solo. I bet still good. But W/L ratio wise.
I will tell you what... He does not look back to see who's AFKing because he is too busy shooting people in the face. Others should follow his lead. - Devil |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
116
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Posted - 2013.03.26 07:42:00 -
[142] - Quote
General Tiberius1 wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:Deadeyes Anterie wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:
don't worry, you can still be the evil guy from WWII.
How can I pick from so many of them? My American public school education has taught me that anyone who opposed US interests was evil. Yeah, thought about that, once the forum banned the H name. I bet there were evil guys around during WWII but didn't actually fight in that war or oppose the interests of any nation. The were just evil elsewhere, in the same time period. So you see, AFKer's, you have plenty of evil options. personally, i think Stalin was worse. he just didn't inspire a modern day cult of **** heads
Right on. Bill Burr, the comedian talks about this on his podcast. Not calling you out for stealing the idea . . . but it has been said other places that Stalin killed more people. Again, AFKers, after the devil, who wants the Stalin consolation prize? |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
286
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Posted - 2013.03.26 07:45:00 -
[143] - Quote
Vanda-Kon wrote:General Tiberius1 wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:Deadeyes Anterie wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:
don't worry, you can still be the evil guy from WWII.
How can I pick from so many of them? My American public school education has taught me that anyone who opposed US interests was evil. Yeah, thought about that, once the forum banned the H name. I bet there were evil guys around during WWII but didn't actually fight in that war or oppose the interests of any nation. The were just evil elsewhere, in the same time period. So you see, AFKer's, you have plenty of evil options. personally, i think Stalin was worse. he just didn't inspire a modern day cult of **** heads Right on. Bill Burr, the comedian talks about this on his podcast. Not calling you out for stealing the idea . . . but it has been said other places that Stalin killed more people. Again, AFKers, after the devil, who wants the Stalin consolation prize?
yeah, the devils the only COOl evil person.
well, him and Mr. Burke |
ReGnYuM LEGENDof DEI
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
40
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Posted - 2013.03.26 07:45:00 -
[144] - Quote
Vanda-Kon wrote:ReGnYuM LEGENDof DEI wrote:I would AFK Farm, but my W/L ratio is too high and I'm kinda a STAT ***** You're also the best player in the game, so it wouldn't make sense. Curious how you do when you run solo. I bet still good. But W/L ratio wise.
It really depends on who I am playing. If it is just a bunch of randoms then I can usually secure the win. However, if there is another organized squad on the opposing team then it can be much more difficult. It comes to the point on who can kill the unorganized players the fastest. |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
286
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Posted - 2013.03.26 07:47:00 -
[145] - Quote
ReGnYuM LEGENDof DEI wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:ReGnYuM LEGENDof DEI wrote:I would AFK Farm, but my W/L ratio is too high and I'm kinda a STAT ***** You're also the best player in the game, so it wouldn't make sense. Curious how you do when you run solo. I bet still good. But W/L ratio wise. It really depends on who I am playing. If it is just a bunch of randoms then I can usually secure the win. However, if there is another organized squad on the opposing team then it can be much more difficult. It comes to the point on who can kill the unorganized players the fastest.
who ARE you? last i knew, zitro and protoman were the highest ranked players.... |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
116
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Posted - 2013.03.26 07:58:00 -
[146] - Quote
JL3Eleven wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:ReGnYuM LEGENDof DEI wrote:I would AFK Farm, but my W/L ratio is too high and I'm kinda a STAT ***** You're also the best player in the game, so it wouldn't make sense. Curious how you do when you run solo. I bet still good. But W/L ratio wise. I will tell you what... He does not look back to see who's AFKing because he is too busy shooting people in the face. Others should follow his lead. - Devil
He always squads with massive amounts of talent, at least in his vids. Not to dimminsh his skill, but if his squad hangs in the mcc, the outcome of the match could be entirely different. Most of the skilled AFKers are doing this alone. Maybe in a pair.
There is not one player in the game that can carry an entire bad team. But lets say the teams are even, if two of your four top players MCC squat, you lose. This is not fair, for example, for the two other skilled players who don't immediately know the battle is unbalanced, nevermind new players going 0-16 like martyrs, thinking there playing with someone who knows what they are doing. Nope, the people who know what they are doing are not doing anything accept looking at sp once the game finishes. |
Deadeyes Anterie
Ill Omens
320
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Posted - 2013.03.26 08:00:00 -
[147] - Quote
Regnyum has a harder time establishing his reputation with forum goers because he is banned so frequently ;D
If you ever play him in a pub match you will understand that he is easily at the same skill level of protoman and the other elite Imperfects really quickly. |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
116
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Posted - 2013.03.26 08:01:00 -
[148] - Quote
General Tiberius1 wrote:ReGnYuM LEGENDof DEI wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:ReGnYuM LEGENDof DEI wrote:I would AFK Farm, but my W/L ratio is too high and I'm kinda a STAT ***** You're also the best player in the game, so it wouldn't make sense. Curious how you do when you run solo. I bet still good. But W/L ratio wise. It really depends on who I am playing. If it is just a bunch of randoms then I can usually secure the win. However, if there is another organized squad on the opposing team then it can be much more difficult. It comes to the point on who can kill the unorganized players the fastest. who ARE you? last i knew, zitro and protoman were the highest ranked players....
Check his vids. Assualt players with highest KDRs are better than Tankers, and they are rare. |
JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
184
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Posted - 2013.03.26 08:08:00 -
[149] - Quote
Vanda-Kon wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:ReGnYuM LEGENDof DEI wrote:I would AFK Farm, but my W/L ratio is too high and I'm kinda a STAT ***** You're also the best player in the game, so it wouldn't make sense. Curious how you do when you run solo. I bet still good. But W/L ratio wise. I will tell you what... He does not look back to see who's AFKing because he is too busy shooting people in the face. Others should follow his lead. - Devil He always squads with massive amounts of talent, at least in his vids. Not to dimminsh his skill, but if his squad hangs in the mcc, the outcome of the match could be entirely different. Most of the skilled AFKers are doing this alone. Maybe in a pair. There is not one player in the game that can carry an entire bad team. But lets say the teams are even, if two of your four top players MCC squat, you lose. This is not fair, for example, for the two other skilled players who don't immediately know the battle is unbalanced, nevermind new players going 0-16 like martyrs, thinking there playing with someone who knows what they are doing. Nope, the people who know what they are doing are not doing anything accept looking at sp once the game finishes.
This is war nothing is fair. Do you really count on others in this game? |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
116
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Posted - 2013.03.26 08:10:00 -
[150] - Quote
ReGnYuM LEGENDof DEI wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:ReGnYuM LEGENDof DEI wrote:I would AFK Farm, but my W/L ratio is too high and I'm kinda a STAT ***** You're also the best player in the game, so it wouldn't make sense. Curious how you do when you run solo. I bet still good. But W/L ratio wise. It really depends on who I am playing. If it is just a bunch of randoms then I can usually secure the win. However, if there is another organized squad on the opposing team then it can be much more difficult. It comes to the point on who can kill the unorganized players the fastest.
Well, that gives some us of hope. You are human. I run solo mostly (second lowest W/L in the top 100 total kills at one point) so I find much of the same experience, it usually only takes one good squad to win, if there is not one to match it on the other side. But if it's all randoms and one skilled player, the skilled player can go bezerk.
But I don't blame ya for running with the guys you do, given the option. Thanks for the answer. |
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Deadeyes Anterie
Ill Omens
320
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Posted - 2013.03.26 08:10:00 -
[151] - Quote
http://www.dust514stats.com/leaderboard.cfm
Was just curious to see Regnyum and I realized that site is basically a Logi circle jerk.
1.25 K/D player ranked above Regnyums 20 KD, think some math might need to be reworked, I enjoy a good logi, but come on. |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
116
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Posted - 2013.03.26 08:13:00 -
[152] - Quote
JL3Eleven wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:ReGnYuM LEGENDof DEI wrote:I would AFK Farm, but my W/L ratio is too high and I'm kinda a STAT ***** You're also the best player in the game, so it wouldn't make sense. Curious how you do when you run solo. I bet still good. But W/L ratio wise. I will tell you what... He does not look back to see who's AFKing because he is too busy shooting people in the face. Others should follow his lead. - Devil He always squads with massive amounts of talent, at least in his vids. Not to dimminsh his skill, but if his squad hangs in the mcc, the outcome of the match could be entirely different. Most of the skilled AFKers are doing this alone. Maybe in a pair. There is not one player in the game that can carry an entire bad team. But lets say the teams are even, if two of your four top players MCC squat, you lose. This is not fair, for example, for the two other skilled players who don't immediately know the battle is unbalanced, nevermind new players going 0-16 like martyrs, thinking there playing with someone who knows what they are doing. Nope, the people who know what they are doing are not doing anything accept looking at sp once the game finishes. This is war nothing is fair. Do you really count on others in this game?
To some degree, not that I can measure, yes, I count/depend on my teammates. I can hold my own. But they better be doing something too, even if it's on the other side of the map, or my tactics change dramatically.
War may be not be fair, but sitting in the MCC is not war. |
JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
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Posted - 2013.03.26 08:15:00 -
[153] - Quote
Vanda-Kon wrote:ReGnYuM LEGENDof DEI wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:ReGnYuM LEGENDof DEI wrote:I would AFK Farm, but my W/L ratio is too high and I'm kinda a STAT ***** You're also the best player in the game, so it wouldn't make sense. Curious how you do when you run solo. I bet still good. But W/L ratio wise. It really depends on who I am playing. If it is just a bunch of randoms then I can usually secure the win. However, if there is another organized squad on the opposing team then it can be much more difficult. It comes to the point on who can kill the unorganized players the fastest. Well, that gives some us of hope. You are human. I run solo mostly (second lowest W/L in the top 100 total kills at one point) so I find much of the same experience, it usually only takes one good squad to win, if there is not one to match it on the other side. But if it's all randoms and one skilled player, the skilled player can go bezerk. But I don't blame ya for running with the guys you do, given the option. Thanks for the answer.
So your a lone wolf pubstomper who wants others to carry your side? I see why you are crying now. |
ReGnYuM LEGENDof DEI
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
40
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Posted - 2013.03.26 08:17:00 -
[154] - Quote
You tell them my Forum Heroes
BTW My last forum BAN was Dec 26 |
JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
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[155] - Quote
Deadeyes Anterie wrote:http://www.dust514stats.com/leaderboard.cfm
Was just curious to see Regnyum and I realized that site is basically a Logi circle jerk.
1.25 K/D player ranked above Regnyums 20 KD, think some math might need to be reworked, I enjoy a good logi, but come on.
Something has to be wrong the Devil got #54. |
Soozu
5o1st
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Posted - 2013.03.26 08:24:00 -
[156] - Quote
Don't do it CCP, don't make these AFK farmers part of the war council to influence and have sway over what is best for the community. They don't care. |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
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Posted - 2013.03.26 08:28:00 -
[157] - Quote
JL3Eleven wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:ReGnYuM LEGENDof DEI wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:ReGnYuM LEGENDof DEI wrote:I would AFK Farm, but my W/L ratio is too high and I'm kinda a STAT ***** You're also the best player in the game, so it wouldn't make sense. Curious how you do when you run solo. I bet still good. But W/L ratio wise. It really depends on who I am playing. If it is just a bunch of randoms then I can usually secure the win. However, if there is another organized squad on the opposing team then it can be much more difficult. It comes to the point on who can kill the unorganized players the fastest. Well, that gives some us of hope. You are human. I run solo mostly (second lowest W/L in the top 100 total kills at one point) so I find much of the same experience, it usually only takes one good squad to win, if there is not one to match it on the other side. But if it's all randoms and one skilled player, the skilled player can go bezerk. But I don't blame ya for running with the guys you do, given the option. Thanks for the answer. So your a lone wolf pubstomper who wants others to carry your side? I see why you are crying now.
You don't know how I play and you assume too much. Nice how you avoided the last comment about war not being fair, and yet sitting in the MCC not being war. With that line alone, I owned you in our little debate. Now I'm done with you and your broken record about tears.
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JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
184
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Posted - 2013.03.26 08:35:00 -
[158] - Quote
Vanda-Kon wrote: So your a lone wolf pubstomper who wants others to carry your side? I see why you are crying now.
You don't know how I play and you assume too much. Nice how you avoided the last comment about war not being fair, and yet sitting in the MCC not being war. With that line alone, I owned you in our little debate. Now I'm done with you and your broken record about tears.
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I'm assuming? I've been playing Devils advocate the whole time and you are acting like all I do is AFK. Click on Deadeyes link and you will find evidence to the contrary. Where are you on the list btw? So who owned who? |
ReGnYuM LEGENDof DEI
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
40
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Posted - 2013.03.26 08:39:00 -
[159] - Quote
Deadeyes Anterie wrote:http://www.dust514stats.com/leaderboard.cfm
Was just curious to see Regnyum and I realized that site is basically a Logi circle jerk.
1.25 K/D player ranked above Regnyums 20 KD, think some math might need to be reworked, I enjoy a good logi, but come on.
Would you believe the guy who designed the website is LogiBro, who hardly plays the game.... who would of thought |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
116
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Posted - 2013.03.26 08:55:00 -
[160] - Quote
JL3Eleven wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote: So your a lone wolf pubstomper who wants others to carry your side? I see why you are crying now.
You don't know how I play and you assume too much. Nice how you avoided the last comment about war not being fair, and yet sitting in the MCC not being war. With that line alone, I owned you in our little debate. Now I'm done with you and your broken record about tears.
I'm assuming? I've been playing Devils advocate the whole time and you are acting like all I do is AFK. Click on Deadeyes link and you will find evidence to the contrary. Where are you on the list btw? So who owned who?[/quote]
I guarantee that if I ran with the three guys you run with, who ever they are, I would do better than you. Conversely, if you played alone as often as I do, you would see a big dip in your performance. You would have play differently and wouldn't be used to everybody vying for the kill assist.
I didn't say you AFK. But there are members of every well known corp that do, yours included. And you defend it. Not to mention I saw a squad of your corp guys back out of game when the team was stacked with pro hic, delta force, me and other people who were at the very least in some type of corp. Granted you guys could have backed out for another reason altogether. I'll never know. But you would've lost if you stayed in. That is almost as bad AFK.
Funny. You corp guys love when their is only one skilled lone wolf on the other side. You guys straight up drop orbitals wherever he happens to be, even if a better one is available. I hate your stupid named corp. I told one player gg and he didn't even respond. Bunch a-holes. I've also been invited to your corp, so think about that. |
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JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
184
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Posted - 2013.03.26 09:15:00 -
[161] - Quote
Vanda-Kon wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote: So your a lone wolf pubstomper who wants others to carry your side? I see why you are crying now.
You don't know how I play and you assume too much. Nice how you avoided the last comment about war not being fair, and yet sitting in the MCC not being war. With that line alone, I owned you in our little debate. Now I'm done with you and your broken record about tears. I'm assuming? I've been playing Devils advocate the whole time and you are acting like all I do is AFK. Click on Deadeyes link and you will find evidence to the contrary. Where are you on the list btw? So who owned who?
I guarantee that if I ran with the three guys you run with, who ever they are, I would do better than you. Conversely, if you played alone as often as I do, you would see a big dip in your performance.
I didn't say you AFK. But there are members of every well known corp that do, yours included. And you defend it. Not to mention I saw a squad of your corp guys back out of game when the team was stacked with pro hic, delta force, me and other people who were at the very least in some type of corp. Granted you guys could have backed out for another reason altogether. I'll never know. But you would've lost if you stayed in. That is almost as bad AFK.
Funny. You corp guys love when their is only one skilled lone wolf on the other side. You guys straight up drop orbitals wherever he happens to be, even if a better one is available. I hate your stupid named corp. I told one player gg and he didn't even respond. Bunch a-holes. I've also been invited to your corp, so think about that. [/quote]
Looks like I hit a nerve cause umadbro.
You can squad with me anytime IDGAF who I play with, as for a dip in performance I would doubt it. I have good games and I have bad ones. Not like I change my play style in a squad in pubs anyway. As for leaving matches I don't leave. I've been outmatched and outnumbered by PHI and IMPs in the past few days and took it like a man said GG and moved on. You seem to be complaining because you EXPECT help from others while I deal with the situations. Sorry one person who I do not know who it was did not respond to a random message he received in game and you are butthurt about it.
You are still QQing and not providing constructive ways to improve the situation. Instead all you do is cry and attempt to hurl insults.
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2142
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Posted - 2013.03.26 09:16:00 -
[162] - Quote
Are they wearing Heavy suits?
If not, suicide bomb them. If they ARE Heavies, or if they survive you suiciding, bring friends and repeat the suicide attack. Even the toughest go down with 2 - 3 suicides.
And unlike real players, they don't respawn, because they're AFK. And when they come back, they've been booted from the match, and didn't get any ISK or SP for their... ummm... "efforts".
If you're running solo in Skirmish, just hope they're on the other team next time.
And unless you KNOW the person was in the match all the way through, don't assume that 0/0 means they were an AFKer. I've had hatemail from someone for "making the team lose" when I joined so late I didn't even have time to spawn before getting the "defeat" screen. How was that my fault? |
Deadeyes Anterie
Ill Omens
320
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Posted - 2013.03.26 09:27:00 -
[163] - Quote
This whole Vanda-Kon vs. J3Eleven thread is getting to long and boring.
Why did you use the site I posted (and I said was not good) and then claim superiority when JL3 is ranked much higher than you anyways.
1.2 Million WP is a ton of playtime, so you are not a noob clearly. Since I've actually squaded with JL3 in the past and he is one of the best people I've played with acting like you are better than him is kind of funny to me.
That said I don't know anything about you or how you play. You're also are in a Corporation I don't know much about. Joining a strong Corporation can make you a much better player. Since I joined Ill Omens and started playing with other pretty skilled players my KDR and other stats has been skyrocketing so stats don't tell the whole story. |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
118
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Posted - 2013.03.26 09:33:00 -
[164] - Quote
JL3Eleven wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote: So your a lone wolf pubstomper who wants others to carry your side? I see why you are crying now.
You don't know how I play and you assume too much. Nice how you avoided the last comment about war not being fair, and yet sitting in the MCC not being war. With that line alone, I owned you in our little debate. Now I'm done with you and your broken record about tears. I'm assuming? I've been playing Devils advocate the whole time and you are acting like all I do is AFK. Click on Deadeyes link and you will find evidence to the contrary. Where are you on the list btw? So who owned who? I guarantee that if I ran with the three guys you run with, who ever they are, I would do better than you. Conversely, if you played alone as often as I do, you would see a big dip in your performance.
I didn't say you AFK. But there are members of every well known corp that do, yours included. And you defend it. Not to mention I saw a squad of your corp guys back out of game when the team was stacked with pro hic, delta force, me and other people who were at the very least in some type of corp. Granted you guys could have backed out for another reason altogether. I'll never know. But you would've lost if you stayed in. That is almost as bad AFK.
Funny. You corp guys love when their is only one skilled lone wolf on the other side. You guys straight up drop orbitals wherever he happens to be, even if a better one is available. I hate your stupid named corp. I told one player gg and he didn't even respond. Bunch a-holes. I've also been invited to your corp, so think about that.
Looks like I hit a nerve cause umadbro.
You can squad with me anytime IDGAF who I play with, as for a dip in performance I would doubt it. I have good games and I have bad ones. Not like I change my play style in a squad in pubs anyway. As for leaving matches I don't leave. I've been outmatched and outnumbered by PHI and IMPs in the past few days and took it like a man said GG and moved on. You seem to be complaining because you EXPECT help from others while I deal with the situations. Sorry one person who I do not know who it was did not respond to a random message he received in game and you are butthurt about it.
You are still QQing and not providing constructive ways to improve the situation. Instead all you do is cry and attempt to hurl insults.
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Yeah, we should squad. Since I've had fun on your corps side before and have said so before. At least you were honest about having good and bad games. I am the same way. A little advice, you use a lot of internet clich+¬d expressions/ Acronyms that make it appear like you don't have single original idea in your head. To tell person they are crying when their eyes are dry makes you sound like an impossible person. Complaining is not crying, so you're not insulting me, you are exaggerating, which is annoying at best. If I'm crying, then you are laughing at my expense just like a hyena. Not a human laugh. A goddam actual yelping runt dog. See how exaggerations work, are not true and therefore not insulting. Besides maybe I'll start to worship your devilish ways, come to the dark side, and AFK. You big fluffy A-hole. Haha. |
lordjanuz
Norwegian Dust514 Corporation
92
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Posted - 2013.03.26 09:38:00 -
[165] - Quote
Sada Mokmo wrote:Whenever this kind of thread shows up, gm answer is usually that an anti-idle system is being implemented in a future build...
Hmmm when do we get a answer that says , Dust514 is being implemented in a future build |
JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
184
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Posted - 2013.03.26 09:44:00 -
[166] - Quote
Vanda-Kon wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote: So your a lone wolf pubstomper who wants others to carry your side? I see why you are crying now.
You don't know how I play and you assume too much. Nice how you avoided the last comment about war not being fair, and yet sitting in the MCC not being war. With that line alone, I owned you in our little debate. Now I'm done with you and your broken record about tears. I'm assuming? I've been playing Devils advocate the whole time and you are acting like all I do is AFK. Click on Deadeyes link and you will find evidence to the contrary. Where are you on the list btw? So who owned who? I guarantee that if I ran with the three guys you run with, who ever they are, I would do better than you. Conversely, if you played alone as often as I do, you would see a big dip in your performance.
I didn't say you AFK. But there are members of every well known corp that do, yours included. And you defend it. Not to mention I saw a squad of your corp guys back out of game when the team was stacked with pro hic, delta force, me and other people who were at the very least in some type of corp. Granted you guys could have backed out for another reason altogether. I'll never know. But you would've lost if you stayed in. That is almost as bad AFK.
Funny. You corp guys love when their is only one skilled lone wolf on the other side. You guys straight up drop orbitals wherever he happens to be, even if a better one is available. I hate your stupid named corp. I told one player gg and he didn't even respond. Bunch a-holes. I've also been invited to your corp, so think about that. Looks like I hit a nerve cause umadbro. You can squad with me anytime IDGAF who I play with, as for a dip in performance I would doubt it. I have good games and I have bad ones. Not like I change my play style in a squad in pubs anyway. As for leaving matches I don't leave. I've been outmatched and outnumbered by PHI and IMPs in the past few days and took it like a man said GG and moved on. You seem to be complaining because you EXPECT help from others while I deal with the situations. Sorry one person who I do not know who it was did not respond to a random message he received in game and you are butthurt about it. You are still QQing and not providing constructive ways to improve the situation. Instead all you do is cry and attempt to hurl insults.
Yeah, we should squad. Since I've had fun on your corps side before and have said so before. At least you were honest about having good and bad games. I am the same way. A little advice, you use a lot of internet clich+¬d expressions/ Acronyms that make it appear like you don't have single original idea in your head. To tell person they are crying when their eyes are dry makes you sound like an impossible person. Complaining is not crying, so you're not insulting me, you are exaggerating, which is annoying at best. If I'm crying, then you are laughing at my expense just like a hyena. Not a human laugh. A goddam actual yelping runt dog. See how exaggerations work, are not true and therefore not insulting. Besides maybe I'll start to worship your devilish ways, come to the dark side, and AFK. You big fluffy A-hole. Haha. [/quote]
I just wish you were not so aggressive and try to truly understand all sides of the discussion. I hate it as much as you do. I've even suicide bombed people myself several times. Want to know what I discovered? Some people are AFK for a good reason. As I learned when the guy came on comms and explained why he stepped away. You lost me on the crying part. Repeated complaining (ie multiple threads) is considered crying or QQing no exaggeration needed. Like I said not a big AFKer so stay on my side? |
Yagihige
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
203
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Posted - 2013.03.26 09:44:00 -
[167] - Quote
4 afk players was the most i've seen in a single battle. ******* idiots. |
JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
184
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Posted - 2013.03.26 09:48:00 -
[168] - Quote
Deadeyes Anterie wrote:This whole Vanda-Kon vs. J3Eleven thread is getting to long and boring.
Why did you use the site I posted (and I said was not good) and then claim superiority when JL3 is ranked much higher than you anyways.
1.2 Million WP is a ton of playtime, so you are not a noob clearly. Since I've actually squaded with JL3 in the past and he is one of the best people I've played with acting like you are better than him is kind of funny to me.
That said I don't know anything about you or how you play. You're also are in a Corporation I don't know much about. Joining a strong Corporation can make you a much better player. Since I joined Ill Omens and started playing with other pretty skilled players my KDR and other stats has been skyrocketing so stats don't tell the whole story.
Thanks for the kind words. You are pretty good yourself btw. |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
119
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Posted - 2013.03.26 09:52:00 -
[169] - Quote
Deadeyes Anterie wrote:This whole Vanda-Kon vs. J3Eleven thread is getting to long and boring.
Why did you use the site I posted (and I said was not good) and then claim superiority when JL3 is ranked much higher than you anyways.
1.2 Million WP is a ton of playtime, so you are not a noob clearly. Since I've actually squaded with JL3 in the past and he is one of the best people I've played with acting like you are better than him is kind of funny to me.
That said I don't know anything about you or how you play. You're also are in a Corporation I don't know much about. Joining a strong Corporation can make you a much better player. Since I joined Ill Omens and started playing with other pretty skilled players my KDR and other stats has been skyrocketing so stats don't tell the whole story.
First off I'm going to explain something about that site. Lets start with something simple. You need to update it all the time to stay current, so you are looking at some peeps old stats. That's the simple part, I haven't updated. Secondly, and more importantly the last time I updated, I was number one in war points. What happened next was I got the hack bug, the bug that resets while you hack, doesn't complete hacks, and many times gets you killed trying to hack for extra few unsuccessful minutes. So I stopped hacking anything and my warpoints went down the drain.
I am only in a corporation by myself. I just wanted to change the name. I have no doubt I would improve with good players by my side. A but they have to be good people. I don't see AFKer's as good people. That cancels out a lot of good corps.
I also never said you were not good. |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
119
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Posted - 2013.03.26 09:59:00 -
[170] - Quote
Vanda-Kon wrote:Deadeyes Anterie wrote:This whole Vanda-Kon vs. J3Eleven thread is getting to long and boring.
Why did you use the site I posted (and I said was not good) and then claim superiority when JL3 is ranked much higher than you anyways.
1.2 Million WP is a ton of playtime, so you are not a noob clearly. Since I've actually squaded with JL3 in the past and he is one of the best people I've played with acting like you are better than him is kind of funny to me.
That said I don't know anything about you or how you play. You're also are in a Corporation I don't know much about. Joining a strong Corporation can make you a much better player. Since I joined Ill Omens and started playing with other pretty skilled players my KDR and other stats has been skyrocketing so stats don't tell the whole story. First off I'm going to explain something about that site. Lets start with something simple. You need to update it all the time to stay current, so you are looking at some peeps old stats. That's the simple part, I haven't updated. Secondly, and more importantly the last time I updated, I was number one in war points. What happened next was I got the hack bug, the bug that resets while you hack, doesn't complete hacks, and many times gets you killed trying to hack for extra few unsuccessful minutes. So I stopped hacking anything and my warpoints went down the drain. I am only in a corporation by myself. I just wanted to change the name. I have no doubt I would improve with good players by my side. A but they have to be good people. I don't see AFKer's as good people. That cancels out a lot of good corps. I also never said you were not good.
Lastly about this fluffy fellow. There are better players than me. Then again, there a players you think are good, but they are only that good because of their squad. Even that guy above that I said was the best player in the game admitted the game is different when you go solo. And he is a nasty player. I have gone 21-0, all ground game, in a game where we got redlined, and nobody else on my team went positive. Again, not the best player, but I occasionally can play with the best in the game. |
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JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
184
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Posted - 2013.03.26 09:59:00 -
[171] - Quote
Vanda-Kon wrote:Deadeyes Anterie wrote:This whole Vanda-Kon vs. J3Eleven thread is getting to long and boring.
Why did you use the site I posted (and I said was not good) and then claim superiority when JL3 is ranked much higher than you anyways.
1.2 Million WP is a ton of playtime, so you are not a noob clearly. Since I've actually squaded with JL3 in the past and he is one of the best people I've played with acting like you are better than him is kind of funny to me.
That said I don't know anything about you or how you play. You're also are in a Corporation I don't know much about. Joining a strong Corporation can make you a much better player. Since I joined Ill Omens and started playing with other pretty skilled players my KDR and other stats has been skyrocketing so stats don't tell the whole story. First off I'm going to explain something about that site. Lets start with something simple. You need to update it all the time to stay current, so you are looking at some peeps old stats. That's the simple part, I haven't updated. Secondly, and more importantly the last time I updated, I was number one in war points. What happened next was I got the hack bug, the bug that resets while you hack, doesn't complete hacks, and many times gets you killed trying to hack for extra few unsuccessful minutes. So I stopped hacking anything and my warpoints went down the drain. I am only in a corporation by myself. I just wanted to change the name. I have no doubt I would improve with good players by my side. A but they have to be good people. I don't see AFKer's as good people. That cancels out a lot of good corps. I also never said you were not good.
First off I have not even updated my stats in more than a month (longer than you).
Secondly you will discredit a whole corp based on the actions of one member? Kind of narrow minded don't you think? |
JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
184
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Posted - 2013.03.26 10:02:00 -
[172] - Quote
Vanda-Kon wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:Deadeyes Anterie wrote:This whole Vanda-Kon vs. J3Eleven thread is getting to long and boring.
Why did you use the site I posted (and I said was not good) and then claim superiority when JL3 is ranked much higher than you anyways.
1.2 Million WP is a ton of playtime, so you are not a noob clearly. Since I've actually squaded with JL3 in the past and he is one of the best people I've played with acting like you are better than him is kind of funny to me.
That said I don't know anything about you or how you play. You're also are in a Corporation I don't know much about. Joining a strong Corporation can make you a much better player. Since I joined Ill Omens and started playing with other pretty skilled players my KDR and other stats has been skyrocketing so stats don't tell the whole story. First off I'm going to explain something about that site. Lets start with something simple. You need to update it all the time to stay current, so you are looking at some peeps old stats. That's the simple part, I haven't updated. Secondly, and more importantly the last time I updated, I was number one in war points. What happened next was I got the hack bug, the bug that resets while you hack, doesn't complete hacks, and many times gets you killed trying to hack for extra few unsuccessful minutes. So I stopped hacking anything and my warpoints went down the drain. I am only in a corporation by myself. I just wanted to change the name. I have no doubt I would improve with good players by my side. A but they have to be good people. I don't see AFKer's as good people. That cancels out a lot of good corps. I also never said you were not good. Lastly about this fluffy fellow. There are better players than me. Then again, there a players you think are good, but they are only that good because of their squad. Even that guy above that I said was the best player in the game admitted the game is different when you go solo. And he is a nasty player. I have gone 21-0, all ground game, in a game where we got redlined, and nobody else on my team went positive. Again, not the best player, but I occasionally can play with the best in the game.
I once went 32-0 with only one other corp mate in squad and was wasted out of my mind. Whats your point? I'm honestly the second worst in my corp fyi. |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
119
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Posted - 2013.03.26 10:13:00 -
[173] - Quote
JL3Eleven wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:Deadeyes Anterie wrote:This whole Vanda-Kon vs. J3Eleven thread is getting to long and boring.
Why did you use the site I posted (and I said was not good) and then claim superiority when JL3 is ranked much higher than you anyways.
1.2 Million WP is a ton of playtime, so you are not a noob clearly. Since I've actually squaded with JL3 in the past and he is one of the best people I've played with acting like you are better than him is kind of funny to me.
That said I don't know anything about you or how you play. You're also are in a Corporation I don't know much about. Joining a strong Corporation can make you a much better player. Since I joined Ill Omens and started playing with other pretty skilled players my KDR and other stats has been skyrocketing so stats don't tell the whole story. First off I'm going to explain something about that site. Lets start with something simple. You need to update it all the time to stay current, so you are looking at some peeps old stats. That's the simple part, I haven't updated. Secondly, and more importantly the last time I updated, I was number one in war points. What happened next was I got the hack bug, the bug that resets while you hack, doesn't complete hacks, and many times gets you killed trying to hack for extra few unsuccessful minutes. So I stopped hacking anything and my warpoints went down the drain. I am only in a corporation by myself. I just wanted to change the name. I have no doubt I would improve with good players by my side. A but they have to be good people. I don't see AFKer's as good people. That cancels out a lot of good corps. I also never said you were not good. First off I have not even updated my stats in more than a month (longer than you). Secondly you will discredit a whole corp based on the actions of one member? Kind of narrow minded don't you think?
You're definitely narrow minded if you chose to attack the part I said was the simple part of the explanation. manual updating. More importantly, I said, I couldn't hack ANYTHING. So all that support combo **** became useless. Do you have a higher KDR than me? Awesome. Good for you. I destroy tanks. Do you do that? Which one is more important? If the tanker on the other side is their number one killer, slaughtering dudes all game, and I get him, I'd say destroying tanks has some value, compared to your buddy system of kill assisters.
And no, not just one person in your corp. So far its been three guys from your corp. You are the only corp I've argued with. I was invited by one of you members later but told him I had argued with one of his members. If the guy I argued with could forgive , I might join. It obviously wasn't cool, because I never heard from him again. I bet some of your members are awesome, but they probably not arrogant teens like you sound like. You guys need to change the corp name. Its bad. |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
119
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Posted - 2013.03.26 10:23:00 -
[174] - Quote
JL3Eleven wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:Deadeyes Anterie wrote:This whole Vanda-Kon vs. J3Eleven thread is getting to long and boring.
Why did you use the site I posted (and I said was not good) and then claim superiority when JL3 is ranked much higher than you anyways.
1.2 Million WP is a ton of playtime, so you are not a noob clearly. Since I've actually squaded with JL3 in the past and he is one of the best people I've played with acting like you are better than him is kind of funny to me.
That said I don't know anything about you or how you play. You're also are in a Corporation I don't know much about. Joining a strong Corporation can make you a much better player. Since I joined Ill Omens and started playing with other pretty skilled players my KDR and other stats has been skyrocketing so stats don't tell the whole story. First off I'm going to explain something about that site. Lets start with something simple. You need to update it all the time to stay current, so you are looking at some peeps old stats. That's the simple part, I haven't updated. Secondly, and more importantly the last time I updated, I was number one in war points. What happened next was I got the hack bug, the bug that resets while you hack, doesn't complete hacks, and many times gets you killed trying to hack for extra few unsuccessful minutes. So I stopped hacking anything and my warpoints went down the drain. I am only in a corporation by myself. I just wanted to change the name. I have no doubt I would improve with good players by my side. A but they have to be good people. I don't see AFKer's as good people. That cancels out a lot of good corps. I also never said you were not good. Lastly about this fluffy fellow. There are better players than me. Then again, there a players you think are good, but they are only that good because of their squad. Even that guy above that I said was the best player in the game admitted the game is different when you go solo. And he is a nasty player. I have gone 21-0, all ground game, in a game where we got redlined, and nobody else on my team went positive. Again, not the best player, but I occasionally can play with the best in the game. I once went 32-0 with only one other corp mate in squad and was wasted out of my mind. Whats your point? I'm honestly the second worst in my corp fyi.
Dude, 21--0 alone, when everybody else on your team goes negative, no more than 5 kills among them, immediate redline is a way bigger feat. Dude, if you won that match, there's no way that drunk story compares. Granted you were drunk. Were you on a winning team, Christ?
You guys have I think the most skilled corp. First to beat the imperfects. Won the open beta tourney. To be second worst on your corp still means you are better than more than most people in the game. What is you highest kill count in a skirmish? |
JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
184
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Posted - 2013.03.26 10:25:00 -
[175] - Quote
Vanda-Kon wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:Deadeyes Anterie wrote:This whole Vanda-Kon vs. J3Eleven thread is getting to long and boring.
Why did you use the site I posted (and I said was not good) and then claim superiority when JL3 is ranked much higher than you anyways.
1.2 Million WP is a ton of playtime, so you are not a noob clearly. Since I've actually squaded with JL3 in the past and he is one of the best people I've played with acting like you are better than him is kind of funny to me.
That said I don't know anything about you or how you play. You're also are in a Corporation I don't know much about. Joining a strong Corporation can make you a much better player. Since I joined Ill Omens and started playing with other pretty skilled players my KDR and other stats has been skyrocketing so stats don't tell the whole story. First off I'm going to explain something about that site. Lets start with something simple. You need to update it all the time to stay current, so you are looking at some peeps old stats. That's the simple part, I haven't updated. Secondly, and more importantly the last time I updated, I was number one in war points. What happened next was I got the hack bug, the bug that resets while you hack, doesn't complete hacks, and many times gets you killed trying to hack for extra few unsuccessful minutes. So I stopped hacking anything and my warpoints went down the drain. I am only in a corporation by myself. I just wanted to change the name. I have no doubt I would improve with good players by my side. A but they have to be good people. I don't see AFKer's as good people. That cancels out a lot of good corps. I also never said you were not good. First off I have not even updated my stats in more than a month (longer than you). Secondly you will discredit a whole corp based on the actions of one member? Kind of narrow minded don't you think? You're definitely narrow minded if you chose to attack the part I said was the simple part of the explanation. manual updating. More importantly, I said, I couldn't hack ANYTHING. So all that support combo **** became useless. Do you have a higher KDR than me? Awesome. Good for you. I destroy tanks. Do you do that? Which one is more important? If the tanker on the other side is their number one killer, slaughtering dudes all game, and I get him, I'd say destroying tanks has some value, compared to your buddy system of kill assisters. And no, not just one person in your corp. So far its been three guys from your corp. You are the only corp I've argued with. I was invited by one of you members later but told him I had argued with one of his members. If the guy I argued with could forgive , I might join. It obviously wasn't cool, because I never heard from him again. I bet some of your members are awesome, but they probably not arrogant teens like you sound like. You guys need to change the corp name. Its bad.
Just stop. You are just looking worse and worse. 3 whole people from my entire corp! OMG that's like half!
As for me destroying tanks... Hells yea, derpships, and death coffins too.
As for this notion of a "bunny buddy (tm)" yeeeaaa we don't do that for pubs. and even in CB's its Logi Lovin ftw.
P.S. The name is Fabulous. |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
119
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 10:29:00 -
[176] - Quote
JL3Eleven wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:Deadeyes Anterie wrote:This whole Vanda-Kon vs. J3Eleven thread is getting to long and boring.
Why did you use the site I posted (and I said was not good) and then claim superiority when JL3 is ranked much higher than you anyways.
1.2 Million WP is a ton of playtime, so you are not a noob clearly. Since I've actually squaded with JL3 in the past and he is one of the best people I've played with acting like you are better than him is kind of funny to me.
That said I don't know anything about you or how you play. You're also are in a Corporation I don't know much about. Joining a strong Corporation can make you a much better player. Since I joined Ill Omens and started playing with other pretty skilled players my KDR and other stats has been skyrocketing so stats don't tell the whole story. First off I'm going to explain something about that site. Lets start with something simple. You need to update it all the time to stay current, so you are looking at some peeps old stats. That's the simple part, I haven't updated. Secondly, and more importantly the last time I updated, I was number one in war points. What happened next was I got the hack bug, the bug that resets while you hack, doesn't complete hacks, and many times gets you killed trying to hack for extra few unsuccessful minutes. So I stopped hacking anything and my warpoints went down the drain. I am only in a corporation by myself. I just wanted to change the name. I have no doubt I would improve with good players by my side. A but they have to be good people. I don't see AFKer's as good people. That cancels out a lot of good corps. I also never said you were not good. First off I have not even updated my stats in more than a month (longer than you). Secondly you will discredit a whole corp based on the actions of one member? Kind of narrow minded don't you think? You're definitely narrow minded if you chose to attack the part I said was the simple part of the explanation. manual updating. More importantly, I said, I couldn't hack ANYTHING. So all that support combo **** became useless. Do you have a higher KDR than me? Awesome. Good for you. I destroy tanks. Do you do that? Which one is more important? If the tanker on the other side is their number one killer, slaughtering dudes all game, and I get him, I'd say destroying tanks has some value, compared to your buddy system of kill assisters. And no, not just one person in your corp. So far its been three guys from your corp. You are the only corp I've argued with. I was invited by one of you members later but told him I had argued with one of his members. If the guy I argued with could forgive , I might join. It obviously wasn't cool, because I never heard from him again. I bet some of your members are awesome, but they probably not arrogant teens like you sound like. You guys need to change the corp name. Its bad. Just stop. You are just looking worse and worse. 3 whole people from my entire corp! OMG that's like half! As for me destroying tanks... Hells yea, derpships, and death coffins too. As for this notion of a "bunny buddy (tm)" yeeeaaa we don't do that for pubs. and even in CB's its Logi Lovin ftw. P.S. The name is Fabulous.
Dude the three guys were real D!cks. The guy that invited seemed real cool. What is you highest kill total in a skirmish? |
JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
185
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 10:31:00 -
[177] - Quote
Vanda-Kon wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:Deadeyes Anterie wrote:This whole Vanda-Kon vs. J3Eleven thread is getting to long and boring.
Why did you use the site I posted (and I said was not good) and then claim superiority when JL3 is ranked much higher than you anyways.
1.2 Million WP is a ton of playtime, so you are not a noob clearly. Since I've actually squaded with JL3 in the past and he is one of the best people I've played with acting like you are better than him is kind of funny to me.
That said I don't know anything about you or how you play. You're also are in a Corporation I don't know much about. Joining a strong Corporation can make you a much better player. Since I joined Ill Omens and started playing with other pretty skilled players my KDR and other stats has been skyrocketing so stats don't tell the whole story. First off I'm going to explain something about that site. Lets start with something simple. You need to update it all the time to stay current, so you are looking at some peeps old stats. That's the simple part, I haven't updated. Secondly, and more importantly the last time I updated, I was number one in war points. What happened next was I got the hack bug, the bug that resets while you hack, doesn't complete hacks, and many times gets you killed trying to hack for extra few unsuccessful minutes. So I stopped hacking anything and my warpoints went down the drain. I am only in a corporation by myself. I just wanted to change the name. I have no doubt I would improve with good players by my side. A but they have to be good people. I don't see AFKer's as good people. That cancels out a lot of good corps. I also never said you were not good. Lastly about this fluffy fellow. There are better players than me. Then again, there a players you think are good, but they are only that good because of their squad. Even that guy above that I said was the best player in the game admitted the game is different when you go solo. And he is a nasty player. I have gone 21-0, all ground game, in a game where we got redlined, and nobody else on my team went positive. Again, not the best player, but I occasionally can play with the best in the game. I once went 32-0 with only one other corp mate in squad and was wasted out of my mind. Whats your point? I'm honestly the second worst in my corp fyi. Dude, 21--0 alone, when everybody else on your team goes negative, no more than 5 kills among them, immediate redline is a way bigger feat. Dude, if you won that match, there's no way that drunk story compares. Granted you were drunk. Were you on a winning team, Christ? You guys have I think the most skilled corp. First to beat the imperfects. Won the open beta tourney. To be second worst on your corp still means you are better than more than most people in the game. What is you highest kill count in a skirmish?
Cannot remember If we won but I think so I was drinking Bacardi 151 and a tad too much... gave some back if ya know what I mean. I even won a bet which I forgot about (thanks Laz). Sadly 45 :( |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
119
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 10:55:00 -
[178] - Quote
Well, I thought it would be more than me. 47. Not a big deal. Close enough just curious. 32 while wasted without dying is impressive, now that I think about it. Still wouldn't get in a car with ya. |
JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
185
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 11:03:00 -
[179] - Quote
Vanda-Kon wrote:Well, I thought it would be more than me. 47. Not a big deal. Close enough just curious. 32 while wasted without dying is impressive, now that I think about it. Still wouldn't get in a car with ya.
Remember I had someone equal to myself with the same desire .
And yea I prefer Indy to be my driver. |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
119
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 11:06:00 -
[180] - Quote
JL3Eleven wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:Well, I thought it would be more than me. 47. Not a big deal. Close enough just curious. 32 while wasted without dying is impressive, now that I think about it. Still wouldn't get in a car with ya. Remember I had someone equal to myself with the same desire . And yea I prefer Indy to be my driver.
All things considered, I wouldn't want to be killed by drunken hand/eye coordination. |
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2142
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Posted - 2013.03.26 11:08:00 -
[181] - Quote
Vanda-Kon wrote:Well, I thought it would be more than me. 47. Not a big deal. Close enough just curious. 32 while wasted without dying is impressive, now that I think about it. Still wouldn't get in a car with ya. He's probably a better LAV driver than me. And almost certainly better in... any other game with cars of any kind at all. |
Vanda-Kon
KILLSTAR CO.
119
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 11:17:00 -
[182] - Quote
Garrett Blacknova wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:Well, I thought it would be more than me. 47. Not a big deal. Close enough just curious. 32 while wasted without dying is impressive, now that I think about it. Still wouldn't get in a car with ya. He's probably a better LAV driver than me. And almost certainly better in... any other game with cars of any kind at all.
he's excellent driver you say, drops orbitals . . . rain man. |
Deadeyes Anterie
Ill Omens
321
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Posted - 2013.03.26 11:28:00 -
[183] - Quote
JL3Eleven wrote: I'm honestly the second worst in my corp fyi.
I find that hard to believe. I've seen some pfbhz in pubs where I just figured they knew someone because they were pretty average. Plus being over the corp KDR probably means you are better than average, or at least not near the bottom in terms of skill. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2143
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 11:32:00 -
[184] - Quote
Vanda-Kon wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Vanda-Kon wrote:Well, I thought it would be more than me. 47. Not a big deal. Close enough just curious. 32 while wasted without dying is impressive, now that I think about it. Still wouldn't get in a car with ya. He's probably a better LAV driver than me. And almost certainly better in... any other game with cars of any kind at all. he's excellent driver you say, drops orbitals . . . rain man. When did I imply that he's a GOOD driver?
Better than me means that you can be behind the wheel in Borderlands 2 for a whole minute without dying (my current record is less than 30 seconds). My skill at driving in videogames is similar to my skill at cooking. And I make this happen. |
Kreayshawn Coruscanti
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
141
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 11:42:00 -
[185] - Quote
Deadeyes Anterie wrote:JL3Eleven wrote: I'm honestly the second worst in my corp fyi. I find that hard to believe. I've seen some pfbhz in pubs where I just figured they knew someone because they were pretty average. Plus being over the corp KDR probably means you are better than average, or at least not near the bottom in terms of skill. You talk like we're some elitist corp with elitist standards. If you mesh with the group you'd be accepted. We don't care about your KDR if you're a great person :D
Also, I saw some highest skirmish kill counts being thrown out.. Mine is 66, James' is 74, and PiercingSerenity's is 75. We're all assaults |
Deadeyes Anterie
Ill Omens
321
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Posted - 2013.03.26 11:49:00 -
[186] - Quote
Kreayshawn Coruscanti wrote:Deadeyes Anterie wrote:JL3Eleven wrote: I'm honestly the second worst in my corp fyi. I find that hard to believe. I've seen some pfbhz in pubs where I just figured they knew someone because they were pretty average. Plus being over the corp KDR probably means you are better than average, or at least not near the bottom in terms of skill. You talk like we're some elitist corp with elitist standards. If you mesh with the group you'd be accepted. We don't care about your KDR if you're a great person :D Also, I saw some highest skirmish kill counts being thrown out.. Mine is 66, James' is 74, and PiercingSerenity's is 75. We're all assaults
I've been looked down on and called a noob by so many pfbhz I figured you guys were all hardcore elite players. You guys probably trump the imperfect hate i get. Guess I've just run into all the forum warriors and trolls, shame they are the representation I've got of your whole corporation. |
trollsroyce
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
240
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Posted - 2013.03.26 11:51:00 -
[187] - Quote
Kreayshawn Coruscanti wrote:Deadeyes Anterie wrote:JL3Eleven wrote: I'm honestly the second worst in my corp fyi. I find that hard to believe. I've seen some pfbhz in pubs where I just figured they knew someone because they were pretty average. Plus being over the corp KDR probably means you are better than average, or at least not near the bottom in terms of skill. You talk like we're some elitist corp with elitist standards. If you mesh with the group you'd be accepted. We don't care about your KDR if you're a great person :D Also, I saw some highest skirmish kill counts being thrown out.. Mine is 66, James' is 74, and PiercingSerenity's is 75. We're all assaults
Those are very impressive kill counts and require teamwork (namely bad blueberries) to get. Calamity Jane had an insane 76-8 shotgunning run from what I hear too.
My highest atm is 90-0 sniping, with over a dozen 80+ games now. Still those assault scores put it to shame. |
XeroTheBigBoss
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
62
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Posted - 2013.03.26 11:53:00 -
[188] - Quote
crazy space 1 wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Afkers are pathetic trash. I've learned to feel a little bit sorry for them. I mean, what kind of loser must you be to afk farm sp in a game that already gives you passive SP?
The behavior definitely taints the game as a whole, but know they won't last long. Last night I AFK farmed the MCC becuase my girlfriend surprized me by taking her top off. But not only did I get laid, I also got a ton of isk and sp. Ca Ching
So you finished in 20 mins just in time to start up another game? Cool story bro. |
buddha blezz
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
8
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Posted - 2013.03.26 12:06:00 -
[189] - Quote
to CPP: im not spending anymore money on AUR because of this AFK plague , if you wont fix it in a timely manner i might quit dust completely , theres lots other games to be played , i dislike games that enforce exploiting |
XeroTheBigBoss
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
62
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Posted - 2013.03.26 12:17:00 -
[190] - Quote
buddha blezz wrote:to CPP: im not spending anymore money on AUR because of this AFK plague , if you wont fix it in a timely manner i might quit dust completely , theres lots other games to be played , i dislike games that enforce exploiting
Now that's just pouting.. I am taking my ball and going home! |
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Kreayshawn Coruscanti
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
141
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 12:23:00 -
[191] - Quote
Deadeyes Anterie wrote:Kreayshawn Coruscanti wrote:Deadeyes Anterie wrote:JL3Eleven wrote: I'm honestly the second worst in my corp fyi. I find that hard to believe. I've seen some pfbhz in pubs where I just figured they knew someone because they were pretty average. Plus being over the corp KDR probably means you are better than average, or at least not near the bottom in terms of skill. You talk like we're some elitist corp with elitist standards. If you mesh with the group you'd be accepted. We don't care about your KDR if you're a great person :D Also, I saw some highest skirmish kill counts being thrown out.. Mine is 66, James' is 74, and PiercingSerenity's is 75. We're all assaults I've been looked down on and called a noob by so many pfbhz I figured you guys were all hardcore elite players. You guys probably trump the imperfect hate i get. Guess I've just run into all the forum warriors and trolls, shame they are the representation I've got of your whole corporation. I've definitely called you a noob before, but it doesn't mean I look down on you :) I don't know about the forum warrior part, but the impression that we are all trolls is pretty accurate. Faaabulous trolls. Seeing Vanda express his hatred for our corp name alone makes me feel all giddy inside.
But on the topic of AFKing, I don't enjoy redlining for 20 minutes. I can AFK farm my cap while doing something else, and then play Ambush if I want to get some DUST in. If my squad likes to play Skirmish instead, then I just fly a dropship around for 20 minutes because it takes like 15 skirmishes to get a match that will be a good fight. At least when the enemy team can't put up a fight in Ambush, it just means the game ends quicker. In Skirmish, you're forced to sit through a boring 20 minute redline for 1000-3000 more skillpoints than you would have gotten if you were just AFK instead. Pubmatches just mean so little to me, and I assume every other AFK farmer. That being said, I don't like genuinely ruining someone's gaming experience, so I'll try to stop AFK farming.
I think there are a couple of things that could improve the situation overall and lead to less AFK farming though, like better matchmaking for more interesting battles, higher reward for performing well while not leaving behind those who don't do so hot, and of course more content. One of the biggest arguments for AFK farming is people are -bored- with the game, but need SP. I hope you can understand the need SP part(maxing builds, being ready for PC, etc), like I try to understand the need to go so hard on pubmatches. I don't think we need a solution to AFK farming, but a solution to why people AFK farm. |
buddha blezz
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
8
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Posted - 2013.03.26 12:24:00 -
[192] - Quote
XeroTheBigBoss wrote:buddha blezz wrote:to CPP: im not spending anymore money on AUR because of this AFK plague , if you wont fix it in a timely manner i might quit dust completely , theres lots other games to be played , i dislike games that enforce exploiting Now that's just pouting.. I am taking my ball and going home!
thats called voting with wallet |
bunnywink
Improvise.
71
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Posted - 2013.03.26 12:30:00 -
[193] - Quote
I'm sure there are AFKers on the other team as well. It kinda balances out.
Also, why does this forum always have a million threads about the same topic? |
JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
189
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Posted - 2013.03.26 12:34:00 -
[194] - Quote
bunnywink wrote:I'm sure there are AFKers on the other team as well. It kinda balances out. Also, why does this forum always have a million threads about the same topic?
Because everyone wants to feel like their voice is being heard I'm guessing. |
Kreayshawn Coruscanti
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
141
|
Posted - 2013.03.26 12:39:00 -
[195] - Quote
JL3Eleven wrote:bunnywink wrote:I'm sure there are AFKers on the other team as well. It kinda balances out. Also, why does this forum always have a million threads about the same topic? Because everyone wants to feel like their voice is being heard I'm guessing. I AFK farm because I don't care either way about pubmatches and I can go play another more enjoyable game while getting SP, but I think the amount of hate it's getting should at least be acknowledged. The threads are started by a very vocal and whiny few, but there's always some random guy who pops in who also hates AFK farmers |
2-Ton Twenty-One
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
353
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Posted - 2013.03.26 14:07:00 -
[196] - Quote
The tears, so salty, I almost cant drink them all, gonna have to save a few bottles for the MCC
Lol I'm sorry your worked up that your internet game is not giving you the pat on the head you want it to. The best part of all this is that there is nothing you can do to stop from losing your match. I could stop you from losing that match, I could extend my skill and shield you from the harsh harsh world, but I am a mercenary, so whats in it for me?
Tell you what, You pay me ISK and I will get off my Heavy suits well padded rear and I will carry you to the enemies red line.
Make it worth old 2-tons while.
CCP does not make it worth my while to help you, So its better to watch you scream and choke on your blood from high above you.
I am a cold blooded killer with ISK in my veins. Inject me with some ISK and I will pump that blood for you.
Send me a message and offer me something I want, Some sort of payment for my services for wining the match for you and I will do it.
I am a mercenary, of course I am selfish and vain.
Merc for life, Friends for a paycheck. |
2-Ton Twenty-One
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
353
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Posted - 2013.03.26 14:07:00 -
[197] - Quote
Old 2-tons fought more wars then days you have been alive.
I stopped caring about the other clones after I spent what amounts to months on the ground screaming for a revive.
Seen whole squads on my team go 0/40 while I put up a solid 40/1, You can crush so many dropsuit helmets under your boots before you wonder if it was all worth it.
Can only climb so many mountains of dead blueberries outside of a CRU you have left unhacked the whole game and they come tumbling out like a menstrual cycle, right on time all the time and as red as it gets.
My minigun only gets hot for real action now. Rather just oil it in the MCC and wait for a real fight to come along.
Maybe while I'm off the battlefield you can learn how to shoot.
My shoulders are broad, but they dont work for free, not anymore. |
BASSMEANT
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
175
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Posted - 2013.03.26 14:17:00 -
[198] - Quote
casual gamers are the most important part of 514.
CCP must protect them at all costs.
ALL costs!!!
these are the people CCP is counting on to make this game successful!!!
this is why V2K can't be implemented:
cuz you guys might actually kick people who deserve it.
and for that i say:
AFK your arse off, folks!!!
you earned it with your incompetence and garbage gameplay...
you codbois sure did earn it!!
Peace B |
Takahiro Kashuken
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
168
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Posted - 2013.03.26 14:22:00 -
[199] - Quote
BASSMEANT wrote:casual gamers are the most important part of 514.
CCP must protect them at all costs.
ALL costs!!!
these are the people CCP is counting on to make this game successful!!!
this is why V2K can't be implemented:
cuz you guys might actually kick people who deserve it.
and for that i say:
AFK your arse off, folks!!!
you earned it with your incompetence and garbage gameplay...
you codbois sure did earn it!!
Peace B
Once again
Casual babby in a casual clan wants VTK in a high sec casual babby pub match which means nothing and does nothing |
Nomed Deeps
The Exemplars
102
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Posted - 2013.03.26 14:25:00 -
[200] - Quote
I've played a lot of games but have never encountered this level of crap gaming. Last night I ran into a couple matches where it was my four man squad and a couple smurfs against a team of 16. 6 on 16 is not really a fair fight. When this game dies out because those who actually want to play stop playing because of those who AFK, I hope those AFKers appreciate what they've done to kill the community. No wonder so many are turning to Defiance.
BTW, if you want a laugh, check out this: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=65920&find=unread Earned their right to AFK. |
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BlG MAMA
PLAYSTATION4
25
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Posted - 2013.03.26 14:33:00 -
[201] - Quote
Lets say you enter a match and your team is losing badly , dominated , all the ammount of AURUM wont win the battle.
What do you do?
Rush in a hopeless fight only to lose ISK and maybe get a kill or 2?
Quit?
No , you stay at least you get some points.
If you wouldn get points , the losing team would most likely quit the match and the winning team would get less points anyway and match would end prematurely because opponents left and you wasted your time for NOTHING.
There are some reasons why some matches are bound to be lost from the start:
1. Too many snipers in your team , you need ATTACKING people
2. There is this map (dont know the name) with 3 objectives and one team is closer to all 3 objectives , by the time the other team gets to objective B the other team has objective A and C and they on the way to objective B , hard to push them back when they so close to objectives.
3.Broken matchmaking , setting n00bs against "prostitutes" makes you stay in MCC
Fix this and you will make most people to play the game instead of drinking coffee in the MCC |
Takahiro Kashuken
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
168
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Posted - 2013.03.26 14:33:00 -
[202] - Quote
Nomed Deeps wrote:I've played a lot of games but have never encountered this level of crap gaming. Last night I ran into a couple matches where it was my four man squad and a couple smurfs against a team of 16. 6 on 16 is not really a fair fight. When this game dies out because those who actually want to play stop playing because of those who AFK, I hope those AFKers appreciate what they've done to kill the community. No wonder so many are turning to Defiance. BTW, if you want a laugh, check out this: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=65920&find=unread"Earned their right to AFK." Please.
lol
Its an average game at best
PS3 might even be region locked |
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers
138
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Posted - 2013.03.26 14:33:00 -
[203] - Quote
This entire discussion is funny, and sadly most of the people QQ about AFKers are players that just arent that good apparently.
Lets face it, 95% of ALL matches are decided by 4-6 players on each side, while the rest typically do not contribute.
Sure its a cheap way to get SP, sure its not ethically right to do, but 3 out of 16 players not playing doesnt really hurt your team, if anything, it helps the team cause thats 3 less ppl running out and dying.
And if it REALLY bothers you... just play ambush. Of course then you HAVE to rely on your own skills otherwise you WILL get steamrolled
I have personally AFK'ed twice, due to crying baby etc, but on both occassions still made it back in time to play some of the match.
I have learned that in pubs, you simply CANNOT rely on others, aside from your squad. Although the overall skill level and competitiveness of players in general has increased, on average is still substandard...how often do you play a match, ambush OR skirmish... that is close? |
BASSMEANT
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
175
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Posted - 2013.03.26 14:36:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
see, this is why you guys are slow.
i'm the least casual gamer on the ps3.
you... are a casual noob.
and you are scared of V2K because you know damn well most of you deserve to be booted from about 2 outta ever 3 of your "matches".
if the matches don't matter, the you won't mind getting kicked out so we can get some real players in here?
but only a casual would think it the other way: the matches don't matter, so the casual has the right to hide like a vage while the real players put in the work.
see how i flipped it?
Peace B |
bunnywink
Improvise.
71
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Posted - 2013.03.26 14:37:00 -
[205] - Quote
LOL @ 2-Ton. Can I pay you in smiles? |
Takahiro Kashuken
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
168
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Posted - 2013.03.26 14:45:00 -
[206] - Quote
BASSMEANT wrote:Takahiro Kashuken
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
see, this is why you guys are slow.
i'm the least casual gamer on the ps3.
you... are a casual noob.
and you are scared of V2K because you know damn well most of you deserve to be booted from about 2 outta ever 3 of your "matches".
if the matches don't matter, the you won't mind getting kicked out so we can get some real players in here?
but only a casual would think it the other way: the matches don't matter, so the casual has the right to hide like a vage while the real players put in the work.
see how i flipped it?
Peace B
You are a casual babby
You want a ****** mechanic in the most pointless matches of all: high sec pubbie matches
Proper players who want to get on will be in FW and PC when it gets here, pubbie matches mean **** except SP and a little bit of ISK
Im still in my NPC corp because i dont need a corp yet, im in no rush, being in a corp doesnt mean you turn from casual to pro i mean look at you, casual is stamped on your forehead |
Vaerana Myshtana
Bojo's School of the Trades
492
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Posted - 2013.03.26 14:46:00 -
[207] - Quote
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote: I have personally AFK'ed twice, due to crying baby etc, but on both occassions still made it back in time to play some of the match.
I think that this is a completely different set of circumstances. There is a huge gulf between stepping away from a single match because real life demands attention and making AFK farming one's primary "play" style.
The former is totally reasonable and understandable, if at times frustrating.
The later is unethical and exploitative. It also seems to engender abusive self-aggrandizement in the perpetrators. |
JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
190
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Posted - 2013.03.26 14:47:00 -
[208] - Quote
Vaerana Myshtana wrote:So, to re-ask my question to those who believe that CCP condones AFK farming: Where? Link to the exact spot where a GM or Dev told you to go camp in the MCC because you hate the game that they are working so hard on. Go ahead. Because in my mind, AFK farming and MCC camping is a clear violation of: Dust 514 EULA wrote: 6. CONDUCT A. SPECIFICALLY RESTRICTED CONDUCT Your continued access to the System and license to play the Game is subject to proper conduct. Without limiting CCP's rights to control the Game environment, and the conduct of the players within that environment, CCP prohibits the following practices:
3. You may not use your own or any third-party software, macros or other stored rapid keystrokes or other patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play. You may not rewrite or modify the user interface or otherwise manipulate data in any way to acquire items, currency, objects, character attributes or beneficial actions not actually acquired or achieved in the Game.
Given that macro mining is illegal under these same terms in EVE, your abuse of the system to gain SP and ISK without playing should be prohibited.
Please do your own research. 2-4 pages back in general discussion. title "why we afk farm" I believe. Last post b/c lock. |
Vaerana Myshtana
Bojo's School of the Trades
493
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Posted - 2013.03.26 14:52:00 -
[209] - Quote
JL3Eleven wrote:Vaerana Myshtana wrote:So, to re-ask my question to those who believe that CCP condones AFK farming:
Where?
Link to the exact spot where a GM or Dev told you to go camp in the MCC because you hate the game that they are working so hard on.... Please do your own research. 2-4 pages back in general discussion. title "why we afk farm" I believe. Last post b/c lock.
Nope:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=641328#post641328
GM Hercules wrote:This thread is now out of place.
Locked.
Thanks.
There are no other GM or Dev posts in that thread. |
JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
190
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Posted - 2013.03.26 14:58:00 -
[210] - Quote
Vaerana Myshtana wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Vaerana Myshtana wrote:So, to re-ask my question to those who believe that CCP condones AFK farming:
Where?
Link to the exact spot where a GM or Dev told you to go camp in the MCC because you hate the game that they are working so hard on.... Please do your own research. 2-4 pages back in general discussion. title "why we afk farm" I believe. Last post b/c lock. Nope: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=641328#post641328GM Hercules wrote:This thread is now out of place.
Locked.
Thanks. There are no other GM or Dev posts in that thread.
Well let me fill you in my friend. I basically said that they had no current plans to fix it but welcomed suggestions for and against it. |
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2146
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Posted - 2013.03.26 15:03:00 -
[211] - Quote
JL3Eleven wrote:Well let me fill you in my friend. I basically said that they had no current plans to fix it but welcomed suggestions for and against it. And your Dev or GM tag is missing because...? |
JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
190
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Posted - 2013.03.26 15:05:00 -
[212] - Quote
Garrett Blacknova wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Well let me fill you in my friend. I basically said that they had no current plans to fix it but welcomed suggestions for and against it. And your Dev or GM tag is missing because...?
Lol. It. not I. Lol. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2147
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Posted - 2013.03.26 15:09:00 -
[213] - Quote
JL3Eleven wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Well let me fill you in my friend. I basically said that they had no current plans to fix it but welcomed suggestions for and against it. And your Dev or GM tag is missing because...? Lol. It. not I. Lol. Can you link the post then, because I can't find it either. And I've looked in a LOT of threads on the topic. Including the one you referred to specifically, which as mentioned, only had the GM post where it was locked. |
JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
190
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Posted - 2013.03.26 15:23:00 -
[214] - Quote
Garrett Blacknova wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Well let me fill you in my friend. I basically said that they had no current plans to fix it but welcomed suggestions for and against it. And your Dev or GM tag is missing because...? Lol. It. not I. Lol. Can you link the post then, because I can't find it either. And I've looked in a LOT of threads on the topic. Including the one you referred to specifically, which as mentioned, only had the GM post where it was locked.
I told you the thread. Seems they did a ghost edit. It said what I told you earlier. I have no reason to lie and would not have mentioned it multiple times in different threads
Don't worry CCP I will start a civil thread with my ideas and suggestions. Just give me 12 hours. Gotta get some sleep. |
sharted pantaloon
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
36
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Posted - 2013.03.26 15:24:00 -
[215] - Quote
vegas, with all due respect, this thread https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=65842&p=2 is not the same subject.
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ReGnYuM LEGENDof DEI
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
40
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Posted - 2013.03.26 15:30:00 -
[216] - Quote
I said the same thing when boosting was a Issue, and I will say it again.
Do I agree with AFKing... not really. I feel people should try to win no matter what. However, that gives me no right on how to tell people to play, and what they can and cannot do.
This game was advertised for being a Sand Box... Aka player does what player wants to do. If that involves TK or AFK then so be it. The player as the right to that freedom.
Stop fighting with your fellow players, and direct it to the people who created this problem. |
sharted pantaloon
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
36
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Posted - 2013.03.26 15:51:00 -
[217] - Quote
How can you argue CCP doesn't actively support AFK farming? Why else would they stick so many turrets between the redline and a building on the 40 unique maps they have for us? It's not like they're good for anything but idling in. |
xaerael Kabiel
Immobile Infantry
5
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Posted - 2013.03.26 15:51:00 -
[218] - Quote
Vaerana Myshtana wrote:So, to re-ask my question to those who believe that CCP condones AFK farming: Where? Link to the exact spot where a GM or Dev told you to go camp in the MCC because you hate the game that they are working so hard on. Go ahead. Because in my mind, AFK farming and MCC camping is a clear violation of: Dust 514 EULA wrote: 6. CONDUCT A. SPECIFICALLY RESTRICTED CONDUCT Your continued access to the System and license to play the Game is subject to proper conduct. Without limiting CCP's rights to control the Game environment, and the conduct of the players within that environment, CCP prohibits the following practices:
3. You may not use your own or any third-party software, macros or other stored rapid keystrokes or other patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play. You may not rewrite or modify the user interface or otherwise manipulate data in any way to acquire items, currency, objects, character attributes or beneficial actions not actually acquired or achieved in the Game.
Given that macro mining is illegal under these same terms in EVE, your abuse of the system to gain SP and ISK without playing should be prohibited.
How? What? REREAD THAT PARAGRAPH MORON.
Quote:3. You may not use your own or any third-party software, macros or other stored rapid keystrokes or other patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play. You may not rewrite or modify the user interface or otherwise manipulate data in any way to acquire items, currency, objects, character attributes or beneficial actions not actually acquired or achieved in the Game.
Don't tactically bold out one part of a sentence and ignore the rest of the context to support your argument. AKFing DOES NOT DO ANY OF THE ABOVE ANYWAY. How is AFKing "using your own or any third-party software, macros or other stored rapid keystrokes"?
You're argument is stupid. Think before posting. AFK ratting, mining, autopiloting, pubbie scaring, and a whole lot more are TOTALLY LEGAL IN EVE. Soaking up a couple of games worth of SP is nothing compared to these. |
Vaerana Myshtana
Bojo's School of the Trades
498
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Posted - 2013.03.26 16:15:00 -
[219] - Quote
xaerael Kabiel wrote:How? What? REREAD THAT PARAGRAPH MORON. Quote:3. You may not use your own or any third-party software, macros or other stored rapid keystrokes or other patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play. You may not rewrite or modify the user interface or otherwise manipulate data in any way to acquire items, currency, objects, character attributes or beneficial actions not actually acquired or achieved in the Game. Don't tactically bold out one part of a sentence and ignore the rest of the context to support your argument. AKFing DOES NOT DO ANY OF THE ABOVE ANYWAY. How is AFKing "using your own or any third-party software, macros or other stored rapid keystrokes"? You're argument is stupid. Think before posting. AFK ratting, mining, autopiloting, pubbie scaring, and a whole lot more are TOTALLY LEGAL IN EVE. Soaking up a couple of games worth of SP is nothing compared to these.
Interesting. Someone who feels the need to shift into ALLCAPS every other sentence calling someone a moron...
Lulz.
AFKing in a safe environment for extended periods is a "pattern of play" that enables the exploiter to acquire items (salvage), currency (ISK), and character attributes (SP) at a rate that is accelerated compared to their "normal" game play (which, according to them is not playing at all). Remember, "normal" game play includes the threat of being killed by the enemy and losing the ISK invested in your dropsuit fitting. If you are not losing dropsuits because you are not actually fighting (as opposed to being really good), then you are accumulating ISK faster than normal play.
Further complicating this is the Drop Uplink and Nanohive stunts, which are also a "pattern of play" that enables the exploiter to increase the rate of SP acquisition even more than simply AFK farming.
By comparison, someone who rats or mines while AFK in EVE does so by placing their ship in harm's way. If the AFK farmers want to stand in the middle of the battlefield the entire match- more power to them. At least they'll have to manually respawn and move every time they die. If they are camping the MCC or the redzone, that's not okay. |
sharted pantaloon
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
36
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Posted - 2013.03.26 16:23:00 -
[220] - Quote
Vaerana Myshtana wrote:
By comparison, someone who rats or mines while AFK in EVE does so by placing their ship in harm's way. If the AFK farmers want to stand in the middle of the battlefield the entire match- more power to them. At least they'll have to manually respawn and move every time they die. If they are camping the MCC or the redzone, that's not okay.
Actually, AFK in the MCC is not without risk. If enough people band together to suicide grenade you, you will die. (unlikely, sure, but possible.) Just like someone with a bug up their kitten can spawn a dropship and land it on you if you are ladder farming.
"If the AFK farmers want to stand in the middle of the battlefield the entire match- more power to them." So, wouldn't that be the equivalent of AFK ratfarming in nulsec? |
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slap26
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
516
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Posted - 2013.03.26 16:26:00 -
[221] - Quote
Vanda-Kon wrote:
You're definitely narrow minded if you chose to attack the part I said was the simple part of the explanation. manual updating. More importantly, I said, I couldn't hack ANYTHING. So all that support combo **** became useless. Do you have a higher KDR than me? Awesome. Good for you. I destroy tanks. Do you do that? Which one is more important? If the tanker on the other side is their number one killer, slaughtering dudes all game, and I get him, I'd say destroying tanks has some value, compared to your buddy system of kill assisters.
And no, not just one person in your corp. So far its been three guys from your corp. You are the only corp I've argued with. I was invited by one of you members later but told him I had argued with one of his members. If the guy I argued with could forgive , I might join. It obviously wasn't cool, because I never heard from him again. I bet some of your members are awesome, but they probably not arrogant teens like you sound like. You guys need to change the corp name. Its bad.
What one of our members invited you??? I may have to have words with him and let him know that whinny female dogs are not PFBHz material.
And to stay on subject we afk farm because this game is dodgefest 514 and its hard to get good fights in. Hopefully PC and Fac warfare nullify the situation. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2150
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Posted - 2013.03.26 16:27:00 -
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JL3Eleven wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Can you link the post then, because I can't find it either. And I've looked in a LOT of threads on the topic. Including the one you referred to specifically, which as mentioned, only had the GM post where it was locked. I told you the thread. Seems they did a ghost edit. It said what I told you earlier. I have no reason to lie and would not have mentioned it multiple times in different threads Don't worry CCP I will start a civil thread with my ideas and suggestions. Just give me 12 hours. Gotta get some sleep. You told us a thread which doesn't currently have what you claim it once had, and which I had been following and doesn't show the signs of missing dev posts that you'd usually expect to see if there was an edit. If someone DID edit something out, they either did a very subtle job, or a heavy-handed cut of a lot of content that I'm pretty sure I remember never having been there.
So again, got an ACTUAL source? Rather than "I remember this but it's not there any more" source? Because I'm pretty sure the latter doesn't actually qualify as a source.
Particularly when the devs here have generally been open about retracting and correcting themselves in the past, rather than editing out comments that were made in error. |
Sobriety Denied
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET
509
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Posted - 2013.03.26 16:33:00 -
[223] - Quote
omfg i just recieved a bunch of blank hate mail my day is so totally ruined |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
640
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Posted - 2013.03.26 16:33:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:you lost a Public match Not sure who's worse, the tryhards who take pub matches so seriously, or AFKers Whateve's Tryhards all day |
xaerael Kabiel
Immobile Infantry
5
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Posted - 2013.03.26 16:35:00 -
[225] - Quote
Awesome, I don't need to say how wrong Vaerana is, someone beat me to the punch.
anyway...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandbox_game
Start forcing people to be mindless drones, and we lose the essence of what the New Eden universe is supposed to be.
I want a future where people hold team spots to ransom, forcing the other players to pay a cut of their winnings for their help or exit. I want a future where I have choices and options, not be forced down the same conveyor belt. I want a future where Dust feels like part of the Eve universe, not part of the CoD universe. |
Sobriety Denied
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509
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Posted - 2013.03.26 16:44:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:You know what, don't even blame AFK's. Blame the skill cap. Some people are just lazy. Some might be off cleaning their house and doing other things and let the game keep their character up to speed. AFKers will only disappear when a Cap disappears. Right.... so they can AFK indefinitely? Problem right now is how rewards are handled, no one should get that much SP for just being in a match. Maybe if they just halved the SP for time in a match and increased the WP reward? this is EXACTLY what us AFKers have been telling them to do all along... not only are we enjoying the free sp WE ARE PROTESTING AGAINST THIS BACKWARDS SYSTEM |
Nomed Deeps
The Exemplars
102
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Posted - 2013.03.26 16:47:00 -
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Quote:this is EXACTLY what us AFKers have been telling them to do all along... not only are we enjoying the free sp WE ARE PROTESTING AGAINST THIS BACKWARDS SYSTEM Out of all the excuses I've heard for AFKing, that is probably the most entertaining. |
Sobriety Denied
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET
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Posted - 2013.03.26 16:50:00 -
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the 5sp per second was originally a "fix" (a very bad one) to the issue of pilots not gaining any SP instead of fixing the dropship SP problem they threw out a poorly thought out bandaid that created a huge problem in return that you cry here about now |
Gunner Nightingale
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
401
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Posted - 2013.03.26 16:51:00 -
[229] - Quote
What you see is the symptom of a greater underlying disease. The disease being boredom via the result of restrictions and lack of gameplay.
As it is many veterans have earned well over 6M SP add to this they are simply bored at the lack of content, while all this is fresh, new and exciting for most of you, this is the identical game many have been playing for many many months now. We've seen little to no progress and we merely log on to maintain of SP because people want every last ounce of it for the coming wars that will likely ensue.
Moreover you blame players and not the game environment that fosters this attitude. The attitude being why should i risk time, money or effort to go after a little bit more SP than i would otherwise get for doing nothing(not fightng, simply observing the fight from the MCC). Moreover this is the basic divide behind socialism and capitalism.
The game provides no "incentive" to performance the bulk of SP gained is simply by participation. This lack of incentive drives down the competitive drive and the most skillful cease to perform or even try their hardest when they know they can get similar results with no effort (thats basic energy utilization, getting the most for the least energy expenditure)
Add to this the game mechanics, poor shooting controls and host of other gameplay bugs that have continued to have gone unchecked has taken the "fun" out of the game for the vets. Sorry simply getting kills and wins is not enough for leet players they want more then what the average casual player cares about.
Now we offered the solution that make the reverse equation where it is 1 WP for 1s of gametime and 1WP=5SP. This would allow veteran players to hit their cap and log off, the reason why they wont do it is because one it would make it that much more difficult for less skilled players to gain SP.
Some falsely argue that this switch would allow vets to create a larger gap and i would say yes if they continue to play after they hit cap and grind the soft cap. MOST LOG OFF AND STOP PLAYING. Tomorrow you will see a large influx of play and by Saturday it drops like a rock so we know this is already the case.
Point is don't blame a burnt out veteran community for afk farming, when the game doesnt allow us control of who we play with, once 6 player squads come you will see more vets actually playing the game. Add to the fact that most players don't even bother to get on comms or communicate in team chat and CCP still refuses to make voice on and PTT off default and force team chat at the start of match it makes coordinating teams largely impossible.
TL;DR Its not our fault, blame CCP and ask them to make the game worthy of closed beta tester veteran attention, gives us the tools that brings back the joy we once had that you currently have. Also come back to me in two months and tell what your stance on AFK farming is then. As to why we don't move on, many have and simply log to get their SP for when they come back. Ordinarly people would simply leave and come back months later but now that there are no SP resets of course people are going to get every last ounce they can because they want to be as versatile as possible for upcoming PC/FW. |
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Posted - 2013.03.26 16:53:00 -
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Nomed Deeps wrote:Quote:this is EXACTLY what us AFKers have been telling them to do all along... not only are we enjoying the free sp WE ARE PROTESTING AGAINST THIS BACKWARDS SYSTEM Out of all the excuses I've heard for AFKing, that is probably the most entertaining.
still the solution stands
i dont care what you think about me or my AFKing and I will say this: i AFK after cap just for the sake of pissing ppl off so they get vocal on the mic.. keep up the team mic rage everyone, my second youtube video DUST514 Rage Comms will soon be complete |
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2150
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Posted - 2013.03.26 16:56:00 -
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xaerael Kabiel wrote:How? What? REREAD THAT PARAGRAPH MORON. Quote:3. You may not use your own or any third-party software, macros or other stored rapid keystrokes or other patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play. You may not rewrite or modify the user interface or otherwise manipulate data in any way to acquire items, currency, objects, character attributes or beneficial actions not actually acquired or achieved in the Game. Don't tactically bold out one part of a sentence and ignore the rest of the context to support your argument. AKFing DOES NOT DO ANY OF THE ABOVE ANYWAY. How is AFKing "using your own or any third-party software, macros or other stored rapid keystrokes"? Nicely done. You know that "or" doesn't mean the same thing as "and", right?
No?
Lets start from the basics then. "And" means all of the things on the list are required. "Or" would cover ANY example where ANY of the listed conditions is fulfilled. One single solitary condition being met is sufficient. If I said someone had to be "blind, braindead or in a coma" to not see me coming, and they were blind, but not braindead or in a coma, that would satisfy the requirements I set down.
In the phrase "third-party software, macros or other stored rapid keystrokes or other patterns of play", you AREN'T required to use macros to fill that requirement. You aren't required to use third-party software or other stored rapid keystrokes either. Any particular pattern of play that operates outside of the normal flow of gameplay and is rewarding you excessively for not participating fits the requirements of the phrasing. AFK farming is therefore covered. If an idle kick function is implemented that only registers controller input, and someone rubber-bands their controller's right stick so the character keeps spinning and doesn't get kicked, that will also fit the criteria as defined.
This is the kind of really, REALLY basic English that you're expected to already know whan you start at school as a native English speaker, so I hope it's a second language, and I hope you're just really good at the language for a first-year student, and if not, you should probably be hitting the books while you're AFK.
You're earning SP and ISK at a higher rate than is normal for a player who isn't attending to their console. You're breaking the risk-reward mechanics that are deliberately present in the game. It's obvious to anyone who actually stops to think about it that this isn't how the game is meant to be played. It's obvious even to most people DOING it that it's not intended, but many do it anyway because they think they can get away with it. I hope some kind of fix for this is included in the next build.
Quote:You're argument is stupid. Think before posting. AFK ratting, mining, autopiloting, pubbie scaring, and a whole lot more are TOTALLY LEGAL IN EVE. Soaking up a couple of games worth of SP is nothing compared to these. ...and then you go and prove me wrong about seeming smart for a first-year. That should be YOUR argument is stupid. You know what else is stupid? Providing evidence of your own illiteracy whle trying to call someone else stupid.
And with that said, I've thought of a relatively simple almost-complete solution. Time-based SP earned can never be more than triple your WPs.
If you toss down an Uplink at a spawn location and a couple of badly-placed nanohives, then you're going to rake in maybe 200 WP. That means you're still getting well under 1000 SP for an AFK match. You may as well have already passed your cap at that point. If you don't do anything at all, you get the nothing you earned.
It might hold some really poorly-performing new players back, but most of them can rake in more WPs than someone who's not in the game, and someone performing that terrible should really be trying to pick up their game, not asking for more handouts.
Add an in-game report function and have someone from the dev team who can deliberately enter games with a flagged player to watch for the requisite behaviour. In the meantime, if the devs confirm it's an explo |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
300
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Posted - 2013.03.26 17:16:00 -
[232] - Quote
:/
this chat got boring after i went to sleep. |
Nomed Deeps
The Exemplars
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Posted - 2013.03.26 17:20:00 -
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Quote:Also come back to me in two months and tell what your stance on AFK farming is then. Been here since last year. Please try another excuse. You AFKers are getting quite creative. |
Illuminaughty-696
Omega Risk Control Services
225
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Posted - 2013.03.26 17:23:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:hey, don't hate on us, it's called burn out, we can't stand playing the game anymore, but we believe in it's promise.
so what do we do?
we afk farm so we're not left in the dust. they're pub matches, get over it, they're only there to gain SP and isk
lol. Glad I left Zion. Good guys indeed.
My burn out is coming from having to play ambush all the time because skirmish is pointless with all the red line snipers and afk farmers. I could join them, but unlike some people, I have principles that I don't abandon just because of a little burn out. I'd rather not play than be part of the problem. Unfortunately for CCP and myself, it's causing me to simply not play. I grind out my SP cap, then go do something that's actually fun, because right now, with all the stupid crap people like you are doing, DUST is not fun.
Deadeyes Anterie wrote:Power > Honor
No CEO would denounce AFK'ing if it was making his mercenaries more powerful.
Blanket statements are tricky. One exception and you're dead wrong. Let's just go ahead and say in this instance, you're dead wrong. However, clearly, not by much, as even corps like Zion that call themselves the good guys are okay with it. Then again, I stopped believing the Zion good guy propoganda a while back.
Really tried to read this whole thread, but it started boiling down to two dudes going at it. As a result this thread has become basically worthless. Not enough discussion on solving the problem and too much back and forth attacks.
Unlike EVE, passive would not work as well in a FPS. This was stated by several people, and I agree with that particular point. The best solution I have seen mentioned is a gtfo of the MCC approach. In the army, if we showed any hestitation to get out of the plane, there was a dude to give you a 'gentle' push. Sure, you could throw a hissy fit and refuse, but then you wouldn't be in the army much longer.
An easy option might be the vote mechanic some games like counter-strike had in place. People vote to kick people out. In this particular instance, the vote could be vetoed by the player selected for the vote by going into a side screen and showing they are still active. Again, easily worked around, because a player willing to AFK in visual range of his screen could then get up and click. Taking it a step further, after having been voted as worthy of a kick for AFK'ing, they could then go into a full monitor mode, wherein they would be subject to active observation by a system that actively checks to see if they are moving and/or shooting - or more simply put, not AFK. This could also be worked around, but it would be more difficult. This is in no way ideal, however. I'd actually hate this system, but right now I hate AFK farmers more.
Anyway, more solutions, less bickering. |
sharted pantaloon
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
36
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Posted - 2013.03.26 17:35:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote::/
this chat got boring after i went to sleep.
nah, the devs just decided to condense 5 or six other threads into this one, so we're struggling to find a solid base for the ranting to continue. Have faith, I expect the flaming should start up within a couple more pages.
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General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
300
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Posted - 2013.03.26 17:36:00 -
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sharted pantaloon wrote:General Tiberius1 wrote::/
this chat got boring after i went to sleep. nah, the devs just decided to condense 5 or six other threads into this one, so we're struggling to find a solid base for the ranting to continue. Have faith, I expect the flaming should start up within a couple more pages.
can we start the trolling now?
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Vaerana Myshtana
Bojo's School of the Trades
499
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Posted - 2013.03.26 17:38:00 -
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sharted pantaloon wrote:"If the AFK farmers want to stand in the middle of the battlefield the entire match- more power to them." So, wouldn't that be the equivalent of AFK ratfarming in nulsec?
Which, in the context of my thread, is fine. If you go AFK in EVE, nullsec or not, you run the risk of getting blown up by anybody who happens to come along. In nullsec, the risk is just that much more intense.
By comparison, standing in your MCC carries (in my estimation) less risk than AFK mining in hisec. I see AFK miners getting blown up all the time (especially in ice belts).
If an AFK miner loses a single Retriever, that's about 40 million ISK down the drain. If they lose a Mackinaw (Tech 2 of the same ship), that's about 150 million ISK. That also ignores any income they lose during the time it takes for them to get refitted and back into the belts.
By comparison, a single AFK farmer getting grenadurkaed will lose a free suit and perhaps 150,000 ISK from getting dropped from the match. That's a 1,000-fold decrease from the risk of AFK mining in a Mackinaw, or three orders of magnitude.
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Now, let's compare the AFK "dropper" who deploys Nanohives and Drop Uplinks in the MCC to an actual Player who reaps the exact same benefits in terms of ISK and SP by deploying these things on the battlefield.
Both characters build a Militia Logistics suit at a cost of around 5,000 ISK a pop (not at PS3, can't check exact pricing).
The AFK Farmer (AFKF) spawns in the MCC or redzone and deploys a Drop Uplink and two Nanohives. He then camps the rest of the battle in the safest hidey-hole he can find. He dies once to a suicide grenade, but comes back and respawns before getting timed out.
The Player spawns as well and moves into the battlefield, trying to find good spots to deploy his payload. In the course of the game, this character dies 5 times.
Both characters earn 300 WP, collecting 5,500 SP and 150,000 ISK.
The AFKF gets a net of 145,000 ISK because he lost 1 fitting. The Player gets a net of 130,000 ISK because he lost 4 fittings.
This is a clear example of accumulating currency faster than normal game play.
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sharted pantaloon
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
36
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Posted - 2013.03.26 17:52:00 -
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Vaerana Myshtana wrote:[quote=sharted pantaloon] The Player spawns as well and moves into the battlefield, trying to find good spots to deploy his payload. In the course of the game, this character dies 5 times.
Both characters earn 300 WP, collecting 5,500 SP and 150,000 ISK.
The AFKF gets a net of 145,000 ISK because he lost 1 fitting. The Player gets a net of 125,000 ISK because he lost 5 fittings.
This is a clear example of accumulating currency faster than normal game play.
Um, no, that is an example of someone who needs to learn to stop running in a straight line. One player netting more SP/ISK doing nothing than some noobtard screaming "Leroy Jenkin" is not an example of normal game play.
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Vaerana Myshtana
Bojo's School of the Trades
501
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Posted - 2013.03.26 17:58:00 -
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sharted pantaloon wrote:Vaerana Myshtana wrote:[quote=sharted pantaloon] The Player spawns as well and moves into the battlefield, trying to find good spots to deploy his payload. In the course of the game, this character dies 5 times.
Both characters earn 300 WP, collecting 5,500 SP and 150,000 ISK.
The AFKF gets a net of 145,000 ISK because he lost 1 fitting. The Player gets a net of 125,000 ISK because he lost 5 fittings.
This is a clear example of accumulating currency faster than normal game play. Um, no, that is an example of someone who needs to learn to stop running in a straight line. One player netting more SP/ISK doing nothing than some noobtard screaming "Leroy Jenkin" is not an example of normal game play.
Dying five times in the course of a battle is pretty "normal" considering the after-action leaderboards.
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Sentient Archon
Red Star.
862
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Posted - 2013.03.26 18:02:00 -
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Nomed Deeps wrote:Quote:this is EXACTLY what us AFKers have been telling them to do all along... not only are we enjoying the free sp WE ARE PROTESTING AGAINST THIS BACKWARDS SYSTEM Out of all the excuses I've heard for AFKing, that is probably the most entertaining.
There is no excuse to AFK farm. AFK farmers do it because its an option available to them. Why even bother playing a game when you don't get adequate rewards for playing well in the game. And by rewards I mean the bling bling stuff. Almost every time I AFK farm I get some really cool bling.
So on sunday I played a few games and beasted like the beast I am. Most games I went 25/0 and greater. This one game I went 41/0. Y'all would think I would get something cool. 545000 ISK was all I got. I could give a kittens ass about ISK. Im rich! I want the bling stuff. With going 41/0 and getting 2200 WP and being number 1 on the leaderboards y'all think I would get something. Nope! Nada! And I carried my team by preventing the red dots from hacking 2 objectives.
The very next game after that I AFKed. 0/0/0 K/D/WP. I get a Surya, 5 Heavy Vk0 and a Limbus. 4 million ISk worth of stuff.
Meh! I am gonna continue to AFK farm till I start getting cool bling for doing well in a pubbies. |
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General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
301
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Posted - 2013.03.26 18:05:00 -
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what archon said
apperently, the loot system tends to reward low skill players more, sooooo, afk farm for those shines! |
sharted pantaloon
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
36
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Posted - 2013.03.26 18:11:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:what archon said
apperently, the loot system tends to reward low skill players more, sooooo, afk farm for those shines!
So that's not just my imagination? |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
301
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Posted - 2013.03.26 18:14:00 -
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sharted pantaloon wrote:General Tiberius1 wrote:what archon said
apperently, the loot system tends to reward low skill players more, sooooo, afk farm for those shines! So that's not just my imagination?
sadly, no.
CCP is rewarding the crap gamers more then their good ones
(no logi better complain, i see y'all in the top 5 of pub matches all the time) |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
862
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Posted - 2013.03.26 18:15:00 -
[244] - Quote
General Tiberius1 wrote:
sadly, no.
CCP is rewarding the crap gamers more then their good ones
QFT
And to add on;- I don't want ISK. What I am I gonna use my 40 million ISK lying around for? I don't care how expensive it is I want cool stuff. My proto loadout is 300K ISK and I run only proto loadouts. Inspite of that Im not broke.
If I got the cool bling to start with;- I wouldn't AFK. Or give me an option like in Eve to put salvage materials and build something out of it. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
2159
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Posted - 2013.03.26 18:15:00 -
[245] - Quote
I just popped in to see people suggesting the SP cap be removed.
I will never change my stance on this. If the SP cap is ever removed, I am done with DUST for good. Rewarding someone for having far too much free time, while simultaneously punishing those with responsibilities; yea, that will never sit well with me. Quit feeling so entitled, enjoy all the ISK you're raking in, as well as the territory you'll be claiming while others handle their RL responsibilities. You don't need even more SP to make you appear better than you actually are.
In short: Quit being selfish. |
Goric Rumis
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
112
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Posted - 2013.03.26 18:16:00 -
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Rifter7 wrote:i think if they just increased the passive skillpoints to include the active skillpoint cap and actually removed the active skillpoints, merging active booster into passive, that any incentive to afk would be gone. that's how it works in eve online.
people would play to make isk and get salvage- enemy player salvage preferably.
i dunno tho eve requires a subscription.. and dust atm allows free accounts (not sure if theyre going to implement the 10-20 dollar buy in on release). it would make alts an issue for sure i guess.. Ideally I'd like to see an active boost to passive SP instead of direct active SP. Under this condition, the collective WP and time spent playing (or maybe other metrics of active play, instead of just time) would increase the rate at which you gain passive SP. There wouldn't be a hard limit to the increase, but a logarithmic one, so that beyond a certain point your additional SP gain would be marginal at best. The WP and other points you gain from playing would degrade over a period of three days or so, so that you hit the baseline passive SP again.
I think something like this would encourage people to play, and play well, in order to maximize their SP bonus, but it would break the direct connection between battlefield behaviors and SP gain that seems to create these obsessive SP-farming behaviors. You could also continue both active SP and passive SP boosting, using this kind of logic.
But CCP already has ideas about how they're going to fix the SP system, so I guess we'll see. |
BlG MAMA
PLAYSTATION4
26
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Posted - 2013.03.26 18:21:00 -
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Most people are AFK in MCC because most of the times the match is lost.
Lets say you enter a match and your team is losing badly , dominated , all the ammount of AURUM wont win the battle.
What do you do?
Rush in a hopeless fight only to lose ISK and maybe get a kill or 2?
Quit?
No , you stay at least you get some points.
If you wouldn get points , the losing team would most likely quit the match and the winning team would get less points anyway and match would end prematurely because opponents left and you wasted your time for NOTHING.
There are some reasons why some matches are bound to be lost from the start:
1. Too many snipers in your team , you need ATTACKING people
2. There is this map (dont know the name) with 3 objectives and one team is closer to all 3 objectives , by the time the other team gets to objective B the other team has objective A and C and they on the way to objective B , hard to push them back when they so close to objectives.
3.Broken matchmaking , setting n00bs against "prostitutes" makes you stay in MCC
Fix this and you will make most people to play the game instead of drinking coffee in the MCC
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General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
302
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Posted - 2013.03.26 18:29:00 -
[248] - Quote
BlG MAMA wrote:Most people are AFK in MCC because most of the times the match is lost.
Lets say you enter a match and your team is losing badly , dominated , all the ammount of AURUM wont win the battle.
What do you do?
Rush in a hopeless fight only to lose ISK and maybe get a kill or 2?
Quit?
No , you stay at least you get some points.
If you wouldn get points , the losing team would most likely quit the match and the winning team would get less points anyway and match would end prematurely because opponents left and you wasted your time for NOTHING.
There are some reasons why some matches are bound to be lost from the start:
1. Too many snipers in your team , you need ATTACKING people
2. There is this map (dont know the name) with 3 objectives and one team is closer to all 3 objectives , by the time the other team gets to objective B the other team has objective A and C and they on the way to objective B , hard to push them back when they so close to objectives.
3.Broken matchmaking , setting n00bs against "prostitutes" makes you stay in MCC
Fix this and you will make most people to play the game instead of drinking coffee in the MCC
it's amazing, let me tell you.
nothing like a cup of coffee whilst watching you blueberries try to win a fight against protosuited duvolle toting assault players |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
985
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Posted - 2013.03.26 18:54:00 -
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the butthurtery in here over AFK people
umadbroyolo?! |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
302
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Posted - 2013.03.26 19:09:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:the butthurtery in here over AFK people umadbro Carpe Diem?!
fixed it for you you un-educated savage |
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Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1103
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Posted - 2013.03.26 19:23:00 -
[251] - Quote
Sorry cant hear you over these idiots trying to kill me in the MCC |
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GM Hercules
Game Masters C C P Alliance
370
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Posted - 2013.03.26 19:38:00 -
[252] - Quote
Ok, guys,
Locking this thread now. Flaming, trolling and insulting each others is something that is against the FORUM RULES
Locked.
GM Hercules Forum Community Moderator |
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Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
7
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Posted - 2013.03.26 19:40:00 -
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Eh.... I can't say I blame people for abusing the mechanism that lets them get away with AFK farming for ISK and SP. I mean, given that there are a lot of people in the world that are selfish, inconsiderate, lazy etc., it doesn't suprise me one bit that this happens.
And then there are folks that are just afraid of being left behind or want to do 'real work' or whatever and still get SP and ISK.... sure, they just optimize the system in their benefit at the expense of others who could be playing in their slot and adding to the team (so, I guess they are selfish).
And some folks will be in the "can't beat 'em, join 'em croud". Another positive aspect of human nature: giving up, caving in, joining the winning team at the expense of your initial stance on the subject.
In the end all the categories are just different flavors of human beings being tools. I don't care enough about these players to get bent out of shape about it, just enough to post my thoughts.
I'll fight the battles on my own with a small team if needed; more challenge.
See you on the field (or in the MCC, for you AFK sissies).
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