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BlG MAMA wrote:

Most people are AFK in MCC because most of the times the match is lost.

Lets say you enter a match and your team is losing badly , dominated , all the ammount of AURUM wont win the battle.

What do you do?

Rush in a hopeless fight only to lose ISK and maybe get a kill or 2?

Quit?

No , you stay at least you get some points.

If you wouldn get points , the losing team would most likely quit the match and the winning team would get less points anyway and match would end prematurely because opponents left and you wasted your time for NOTHING.

There are some reasons why some matches are bound to be lost from the start:

1. Too many snipers in your team , you need ATTACKING people

2. There is this map (dont know the name) with 3 objectives and one team is closer to all 3 objectives , by the time the other team gets to objective B the other team has objective A and C and they on the way to objective B , hard to push them back when they so close to objectives.

3.Broken matchmaking , setting n00bs against "prostitutes" makes you stay in MCC

Fix this and you will make most people to play the game instead of drinking coffee in the MCC

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General Tiberius1 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 301	Posted - 2013.03.26 18:05:00 - [241] - Quote what archon said apperently, the loot system tends to reward low skill players more, sooooo, afk farm for those shines!
sharted pantaloon Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 36	Posted - 2013.03.26 18:11:00 - [242] - Quote General Tiberius1 wrote: what archon said apperently, the loot system tends to reward low skill players more, sooooo, afk farm for those shines! So that's not just my imagination?
General Tiberius1 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 301	Posted - 2013.03.26 18:14:00 - [243] - Quote sharted pantaloon wrote: General Tiberius1 wrote: what archon said apperently, the loot system tends to reward low skill players more, sooooo, afk farm for those shines! So that's not just my imagination? sadly, no. CCP is rewarding the crap gamers more then their good ones (no logi better complain, i see y'all in the top 5 of pub matches all the time)
Sentient Archon Red Star. 862	Posted - 2013.03.26 18:15:00 - [244] - Quote General Tiberius1 wrote: sadly, no. CCP is rewarding the crap gamers more then their good ones QFT And to add on;- I don't want ISK. What I am I gonna use my 40 million ISK lying around for? I don't care how expensive it is I want cool stuff. My proto loadout is 300K ISK and I run only proto loadouts. Inspite of that Im not broke. If I got the cool bling to start with;- I wouldn't AFK. Or give me an option like in Eve to put salvage materials and build something out of it.
DUST Fiend Immobile Infantry 2159	Posted - 2013.03.26 18:15:00 - [245] - Quote I just popped in to see people suggesting the SP cap be removed. I will never change my stance on this. If the SP cap is ever removed, I am done with DUST for good. Rewarding someone for having far too much free time, while simultaneously punishing those with responsibilities; yea, that will never sit well with me. Quit feeling so entitled, enjoy all the ISK you're raking in, as well as the territory you'll be claiming while others handle their RL responsibilities. You don't need even more SP to make you appear better than you actually are. In short: Quit being selfish.
Goric Rumis Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 112	Posted - 2013.03.26 18:16:00 - [246] - Quote Rifter7 wrote: i think if they just increased the passive skillpoints to include the active skillpoint cap and actually removed the active skillpoints, merging active booster into passive, that any incentive to afk would be gone. that's how it works in eve online. people would play to make isk and get salvage- enemy player salvage preferably. i dunno tho eve requires a subscription.. and dust atm allows free accounts (not sure if theyre going to implement the 10-20 dollar buy in on release). it would make alts an issue for sure i guess.. Ideally I'd like to see an active boost to passive SP instead of direct active SP. Under this condition, the collective WP and time spent playing (or maybe other metrics of active play, instead of just time) would increase the rate at which you gain passive SP. There wouldn't be a hard limit to the increase, but a logarithmic one, so that beyond a certain point your additional SP gain would be marginal at best. The WP and other points you gain from playing would degrade over a period of three days or so, so that you hit the baseline passive SP again. I think something like this would encourage people to play, and play well, in order to maximize their SP bonus, but it would break the direct connection between battlefield behaviors and SP gain that seems to create these obsessive SP-farming behaviors. You could also continue both active SP and passive SP boosting, using this kind of logic. But CCP already has ideas about how they're going to fix the SP system, so I guess we'll see.
BlG MAMA PLAYSTATION4 26	Posted - 2013.03.26 18:21:00 - [247] - Quote Most people are AFK in MCC because most of the times the match is lost. Lets say you enter a match and your team is losing badly , dominated , all the ammount of AURUM wont win the battle. What do you do? Rush in a hopeless fight only to lose ISK and maybe get a kill or 2? Quit? No , you stay at least you get some points. If you wouldn get points , the losing team would most likely quit the match and the winning team would get less points anyway and match would end prematurely because opponents left and you wasted your time for NOTHING. There are some reasons why some matches are bound to be lost from the start: 1. Too many snipers in your team , you need ATTACKING people 2. There is this map (dont know the name) with 3 objectives and one team is closer to all 3 objectives , by the time the other team gets to objective B the other team has objective A and C and they on the way to objective B , hard to push them back when they so close to objectives. 3.Broken matchmaking , setting n00bs against "prostitutes" makes you stay in MCC Fix this and you will make most people to play the game instead of drinking coffee in the MCC
General Tiberius1 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 302	Posted - 2013.03.26 18:29:00 - [248] - Quote BlG MAMA wrote: Most people are AFK in MCC because most of the times the match is lost. Lets say you enter a match and your team is losing badly , dominated , all the ammount of AURUM wont win the battle. What do you do? Rush in a hopeless fight only to lose ISK and maybe get a kill or 2? Quit? No , you stay at least you get some points. If you wouldn get points , the losing team would most likely quit the match and the winning team would get less points anyway and match would end prematurely because opponents left and you wasted your time for NOTHING. There are some reasons why some matches are bound to be lost from the start: 1. Too many snipers in your team , you need ATTACKING people 2. There is this map (dont know the name) with 3 objectives and one team is closer to all 3 objectives , by the time the other team gets to objective B the other team has objective A and C and they on the way to objective B , hard to push them back when they so close to objectives. 3.Broken matchmaking , setting n00bs against "prostitutes" makes you stay in MCC Fix this and you will make most people to play the game instead of drinking coffee in the MCC it's amazing, let me tell you. nothing like a cup of coffee whilst watching you blueberries try to win a fight against protosuited duvolle toting assault players
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming 985	Posted - 2013.03.26 18:54:00 - [249] - Quote the butthurtery in here over AFK people umadbroyolo?!
General Tiberius1 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 302	Posted - 2013.03.26 19:09:00 - [250] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: the butthurtery in here over AFK people umadbro Carpe Diem?! fixed it for you you un-educated savage

Sha Kharn Clone Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1103	Posted - 2013.03.26 19:23:00 - [251] - Quote Sorry cant hear you over these idiots trying to kill me in the MCC

GM Hercules Game Masters C C P Alliance 370	Posted - 2013.03.26 19:38:00 - [252] - Quote Ok, guys, Locking this thread now. Flaming, trolling and insulting each others is something that is against the FORUM RULES Locked. GM Hercules Forum Community Moderator

Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 7	Posted - 2013.03.26 19:40:00 - [253] - Quote Eh.... I can't say I blame people for abusing the mechanism that lets them get away with AFK farming for ISK and SP. I mean, given that there are a lot of people in the world that are selfish, inconsiderate, lazy etc., it doesn't suprise me one bit that this happens. And then there are folks that are just afraid of being left behind or want to do 'real work' or whatever and still get SP and ISK.... sure, they just optimize the system in their benefit at the expense of others who could be playing in their slot and adding to the team (so, I guess they are selfish). And some folks will be in the "can't beat 'em, join 'em croud". Another positive aspect of human nature: giving up, caving in, joining the winning team at the expense of your initial stance on the subject. In the end all the categories are just different flavors of human beings being tools. I don't care enough about these players to get bent out of shape about it, just enough to post my thoughts. I'll fight the battles on my own with a small team if needed; more challenge. See you on the field (or in the MCC, for you AFK sissies).


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