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Garrett Blacknova
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Posted - 2013.03.26 15:03:00 -
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JL3Eleven wrote:Well let me fill you in my friend. I basically said that they had no current plans to fix it but welcomed suggestions for and against it.
And your Dev or GM tag is missing because...? |
JL3Eleven
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Posted - 2013.03.26 15:05:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Well let me fill you in my friend. I basically said that they had no current plans to fix it but welcomed suggestions for and against it. And your Dev or GM tag is missing because...?
Lol. It. not I. Lol. |
Garrett Blacknova
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Posted - 2013.03.26 15:09:00 -
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JL3Eleven wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Well let me fill you in my friend. I basically said that they had no current plans to fix it but welcomed suggestions for and against it. And your Dev or GM tag is missing because...? Lol. It. not I. Lol.
Can you link the post then, because I can't find it either. And I've looked in a LOT of threads on the topic. Including the one you referred to specifically, which as mentioned, only had the GM post where it was locked. |
JL3Eleven
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Posted - 2013.03.26 15:23:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:Well let me fill you in my friend. I basically said that they had no current plans to fix it but welcomed suggestions for and against it. And your Dev or GM tag is missing because...? Lol. It. not I. Lol. Can you link the post then, because I can't find it either. And I've looked in a LOT of threads on the topic. Including the one you referred to specifically, which as mentioned, only had the GM post where it was locked.
I told you the thread. Seems they did a ghost edit. It said what I told you earlier. I have no reason to lie and would not have mentioned it multiple times in different threads
Don't worry CCP I will start a civil thread with my ideas and suggestions. Just give me 12 hours. Gotta get some sleep. |
sharted pantaloon
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Posted - 2013.03.26 15:24:00 -
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vegas, with all due respect, this thread https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=65842&p=2 is not the same subject.
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ReGnYuM LEGENDof DEI
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Posted - 2013.03.26 15:30:00 -
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I said the same thing when boosting was a Issue, and I will say it again.
Do I agree with AFKing... not really. I feel people should try to win no matter what. However, that gives me no right on how to tell people to play, and what they can and cannot do.
This game was advertised for being a Sand Box... Aka player does what player wants to do. If that involves TK or AFK then so be it. The player as the right to that freedom.
Stop fighting with your fellow players, and direct it to the people who created this problem. |
sharted pantaloon
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Posted - 2013.03.26 15:51:00 -
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How can you argue CCP doesn't actively support AFK farming? Why else would they stick so many turrets between the redline and a building on the 40 unique maps they have for us? It's not like they're good for anything but idling in. |
xaerael Kabiel
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Posted - 2013.03.26 15:51:00 -
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Vaerana Myshtana wrote:So, to re-ask my question to those who believe that CCP condones AFK farming: Where? Link to the exact spot where a GM or Dev told you to go camp in the MCC because you hate the game that they are working so hard on. Go ahead. Because in my mind, AFK farming and MCC camping is a clear violation of: Dust 514 EULA wrote:
6. CONDUCT
A. SPECIFICALLY RESTRICTED CONDUCT
Your continued access to the System and license to play the Game is subject to proper conduct. Without limiting CCP's rights to control the Game environment, and the conduct of the players within that environment, CCP prohibits the following practices:
3. You may not use your own or any third-party software, macros or other stored rapid keystrokes or other patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play. You may not rewrite or modify the user interface or otherwise manipulate data in any way to acquire items, currency, objects, character attributes or beneficial actions not actually acquired or achieved in the Game.
Given that macro mining is illegal under these same terms in EVE, your abuse of the system to gain SP and ISK without playing should be prohibited.
How? What? REREAD THAT PARAGRAPH MORON.
Quote:3. You may not use your own or any third-party software, macros or other stored rapid keystrokes or other patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play. You may not rewrite or modify the user interface or otherwise manipulate data in any way to acquire items, currency, objects, character attributes or beneficial actions not actually acquired or achieved in the Game.
Don't tactically bold out one part of a sentence and ignore the rest of the context to support your argument. AKFing DOES NOT DO ANY OF THE ABOVE ANYWAY. How is AFKing "using your own or any third-party software, macros or other stored rapid keystrokes"?
You're argument is stupid. Think before posting. AFK ratting, mining, autopiloting, pubbie scaring, and a whole lot more are TOTALLY LEGAL IN EVE. Soaking up a couple of games worth of SP is nothing compared to these. |
Vaerana Myshtana
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Posted - 2013.03.26 16:15:00 -
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xaerael Kabiel wrote:How? What? REREAD THAT PARAGRAPH MORON. Quote:3. You may not use your own or any third-party software, macros or other stored rapid keystrokes or other patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play. You may not rewrite or modify the user interface or otherwise manipulate data in any way to acquire items, currency, objects, character attributes or beneficial actions not actually acquired or achieved in the Game. Don't tactically bold out one part of a sentence and ignore the rest of the context to support your argument. AKFing DOES NOT DO ANY OF THE ABOVE ANYWAY. How is AFKing "using your own or any third-party software, macros or other stored rapid keystrokes"? You're argument is stupid. Think before posting. AFK ratting, mining, autopiloting, pubbie scaring, and a whole lot more are TOTALLY LEGAL IN EVE. Soaking up a couple of games worth of SP is nothing compared to these.
Interesting. Someone who feels the need to shift into ALLCAPS every other sentence calling someone a moron...
Lulz.
AFKing in a safe environment for extended periods is a "pattern of play" that enables the exploiter to acquire items (salvage), currency (ISK), and character attributes (SP) at a rate that is accelerated compared to their "normal" game play (which, according to them is not playing at all). Remember, "normal" game play includes the threat of being killed by the enemy and losing the ISK invested in your dropsuit fitting. If you are not losing dropsuits because you are not actually fighting (as opposed to being really good), then you are accumulating ISK faster than normal play.
Further complicating this is the Drop Uplink and Nanohive stunts, which are also a "pattern of play" that enables the exploiter to increase the rate of SP acquisition even more than simply AFK farming.
By comparison, someone who rats or mines while AFK in EVE does so by placing their ship in harm's way. If the AFK farmers want to stand in the middle of the battlefield the entire match- more power to them. At least they'll have to manually respawn and move every time they die. If they are camping the MCC or the redzone, that's not okay. |
sharted pantaloon
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Posted - 2013.03.26 16:23:00 -
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Vaerana Myshtana wrote:
By comparison, someone who rats or mines while AFK in EVE does so by placing their ship in harm's way. If the AFK farmers want to stand in the middle of the battlefield the entire match- more power to them. At least they'll have to manually respawn and move every time they die. If they are camping the MCC or the redzone, that's not okay.
Actually, AFK in the MCC is not without risk. If enough people band together to suicide grenade you, you will die. (unlikely, sure, but possible.) Just like someone with a bug up their kitten can spawn a dropship and land it on you if you are ladder farming.
"If the AFK farmers want to stand in the middle of the battlefield the entire match- more power to them." So, wouldn't that be the equivalent of AFK ratfarming in nulsec? |
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slap26
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Posted - 2013.03.26 16:26:00 -
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Vanda-Kon wrote:
You're definitely narrow minded if you chose to attack the part I said was the simple part of the explanation. manual updating. More importantly, I said, I couldn't hack ANYTHING. So all that support combo **** became useless. Do you have a higher KDR than me? Awesome. Good for you. I destroy tanks. Do you do that? Which one is more important? If the tanker on the other side is their number one killer, slaughtering dudes all game, and I get him, I'd say destroying tanks has some value, compared to your buddy system of kill assisters.
And no, not just one person in your corp. So far its been three guys from your corp. You are the only corp I've argued with. I was invited by one of you members later but told him I had argued with one of his members. If the guy I argued with could forgive , I might join. It obviously wasn't cool, because I never heard from him again. I bet some of your members are awesome, but they probably not arrogant teens like you sound like. You guys need to change the corp name. Its bad.
What one of our members invited you??? I may have to have words with him and let him know that whinny female dogs are not PFBHz material.
And to stay on subject we afk farm because this game is dodgefest 514 and its hard to get good fights in. Hopefully PC and Fac warfare nullify the situation. |
Garrett Blacknova
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Posted - 2013.03.26 16:27:00 -
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JL3Eleven wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Can you link the post then, because I can't find it either. And I've looked in a LOT of threads on the topic. Including the one you referred to specifically, which as mentioned, only had the GM post where it was locked. I told you the thread. Seems they did a ghost edit. It said what I told you earlier. I have no reason to lie and would not have mentioned it multiple times in different threads Don't worry CCP I will start a civil thread with my ideas and suggestions. Just give me 12 hours. Gotta get some sleep.
You told us a thread which doesn't currently have what you claim it once had, and which I had been following and doesn't show the signs of missing dev posts that you'd usually expect to see if there was an edit. If someone DID edit something out, they either did a very subtle job, or a heavy-handed cut of a lot of content that I'm pretty sure I remember never having been there.
So again, got an ACTUAL source? Rather than "I remember this but it's not there any more" source? Because I'm pretty sure the latter doesn't actually qualify as a source.
Particularly when the devs here have generally been open about retracting and correcting themselves in the past, rather than editing out comments that were made in error. |
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Posted - 2013.03.26 16:33:00 -
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omfg i just recieved a bunch of blank hate mail my day is so totally ruined  |
Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2013.03.26 16:33:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:you lost a Public match Not sure who's worse, the tryhards who take pub matches so seriously, or AFKers  Whateve's
Tryhards all day |
xaerael Kabiel
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Posted - 2013.03.26 16:35:00 -
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Awesome, I don't need to say how wrong Vaerana is, someone beat me to the punch.
anyway...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandbox_game
Start forcing people to be mindless drones, and we lose the essence of what the New Eden universe is supposed to be.
I want a future where people hold team spots to ransom, forcing the other players to pay a cut of their winnings for their help or exit. I want a future where I have choices and options, not be forced down the same conveyor belt. I want a future where Dust feels like part of the Eve universe, not part of the CoD universe. |
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Posted - 2013.03.26 16:44:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:You know what, don't even blame AFK's. Blame the skill cap. Some people are just lazy. Some might be off cleaning their house and doing other things and let the game keep their character up to speed. AFKers will only disappear when a Cap disappears. Right.... so they can AFK indefinitely?  Problem right now is how rewards are handled, no one should get that much SP for just being in a match. Maybe if they just halved the SP for time in a match and increased the WP reward?
this is EXACTLY what us AFKers have been telling them to do all along... not only are we enjoying the free sp WE ARE PROTESTING AGAINST THIS BACKWARDS SYSTEM |
Nomed Deeps
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Posted - 2013.03.26 16:47:00 -
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Quote:this is EXACTLY what us AFKers have been telling them to do all along... not only are we enjoying the free sp WE ARE PROTESTING AGAINST THIS BACKWARDS SYSTEM
Out of all the excuses I've heard for AFKing, that is probably the most entertaining.  |
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Posted - 2013.03.26 16:50:00 -
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the 5sp per second was originally a "fix" (a very bad one) to the issue of pilots not gaining any SP instead of fixing the dropship SP problem they threw out a poorly thought out bandaid that created a huge problem in return that you cry here about now |
Gunner Nightingale
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Posted - 2013.03.26 16:51:00 -
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What you see is the symptom of a greater underlying disease. The disease being boredom via the result of restrictions and lack of gameplay.
As it is many veterans have earned well over 6M SP add to this they are simply bored at the lack of content, while all this is fresh, new and exciting for most of you, this is the identical game many have been playing for many many months now. We've seen little to no progress and we merely log on to maintain of SP because people want every last ounce of it for the coming wars that will likely ensue.
Moreover you blame players and not the game environment that fosters this attitude. The attitude being why should i risk time, money or effort to go after a little bit more SP than i would otherwise get for doing nothing(not fightng, simply observing the fight from the MCC). Moreover this is the basic divide behind socialism and capitalism.
The game provides no "incentive" to performance the bulk of SP gained is simply by participation. This lack of incentive drives down the competitive drive and the most skillful cease to perform or even try their hardest when they know they can get similar results with no effort (thats basic energy utilization, getting the most for the least energy expenditure)
Add to this the game mechanics, poor shooting controls and host of other gameplay bugs that have continued to have gone unchecked has taken the "fun" out of the game for the vets. Sorry simply getting kills and wins is not enough for leet players they want more then what the average casual player cares about.
Now we offered the solution that make the reverse equation where it is 1 WP for 1s of gametime and 1WP=5SP. This would allow veteran players to hit their cap and log off, the reason why they wont do it is because one it would make it that much more difficult for less skilled players to gain SP.
Some falsely argue that this switch would allow vets to create a larger gap and i would say yes if they continue to play after they hit cap and grind the soft cap. MOST LOG OFF AND STOP PLAYING. Tomorrow you will see a large influx of play and by Saturday it drops like a rock so we know this is already the case.
Point is don't blame a burnt out veteran community for afk farming, when the game doesnt allow us control of who we play with, once 6 player squads come you will see more vets actually playing the game. Add to the fact that most players don't even bother to get on comms or communicate in team chat and CCP still refuses to make voice on and PTT off default and force team chat at the start of match it makes coordinating teams largely impossible.
TL;DR Its not our fault, blame CCP and ask them to make the game worthy of closed beta tester veteran attention, gives us the tools that brings back the joy we once had that you currently have. Also come back to me in two months and tell what your stance on AFK farming is then. As to why we don't move on, many have and simply log to get their SP for when they come back. Ordinarly people would simply leave and come back months later but now that there are no SP resets of course people are going to get every last ounce they can because they want to be as versatile as possible for upcoming PC/FW. |
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Posted - 2013.03.26 16:53:00 -
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Nomed Deeps wrote:Quote:this is EXACTLY what us AFKers have been telling them to do all along... not only are we enjoying the free sp WE ARE PROTESTING AGAINST THIS BACKWARDS SYSTEM Out of all the excuses I've heard for AFKing, that is probably the most entertaining.
still the solution stands
i dont care what you think about me or my AFKing and I will say this: i AFK after cap just for the sake of pissing ppl off so they get vocal on the mic.. keep up the team mic rage everyone, my second youtube video DUST514 Rage Comms will soon be complete |
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Garrett Blacknova
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Posted - 2013.03.26 16:56:00 -
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xaerael Kabiel wrote:How? What? REREAD THAT PARAGRAPH MORON. Quote:3. You may not use your own or any third-party software, macros or other stored rapid keystrokes or other patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play. You may not rewrite or modify the user interface or otherwise manipulate data in any way to acquire items, currency, objects, character attributes or beneficial actions not actually acquired or achieved in the Game. Don't tactically bold out one part of a sentence and ignore the rest of the context to support your argument. AKFing DOES NOT DO ANY OF THE ABOVE ANYWAY. How is AFKing "using your own or any third-party software, macros or other stored rapid keystrokes"?
Nicely done. You know that "or" doesn't mean the same thing as "and", right?
No?
Lets start from the basics then. "And" means all of the things on the list are required. "Or" would cover ANY example where ANY of the listed conditions is fulfilled. One single solitary condition being met is sufficient. If I said someone had to be "blind, braindead or in a coma" to not see me coming, and they were blind, but not braindead or in a coma, that would satisfy the requirements I set down.
In the phrase "third-party software, macros or other stored rapid keystrokes or other patterns of play", you AREN'T required to use macros to fill that requirement. You aren't required to use third-party software or other stored rapid keystrokes either. Any particular pattern of play that operates outside of the normal flow of gameplay and is rewarding you excessively for not participating fits the requirements of the phrasing. AFK farming is therefore covered. If an idle kick function is implemented that only registers controller input, and someone rubber-bands their controller's right stick so the character keeps spinning and doesn't get kicked, that will also fit the criteria as defined.
This is the kind of really, REALLY basic English that you're expected to already know whan you start at school as a native English speaker, so I hope it's a second language, and I hope you're just really good at the language for a first-year student, and if not, you should probably be hitting the books while you're AFK.
You're earning SP and ISK at a higher rate than is normal for a player who isn't attending to their console. You're breaking the risk-reward mechanics that are deliberately present in the game. It's obvious to anyone who actually stops to think about it that this isn't how the game is meant to be played. It's obvious even to most people DOING it that it's not intended, but many do it anyway because they think they can get away with it. I hope some kind of fix for this is included in the next build.
Quote:You're argument is stupid. Think before posting. AFK ratting, mining, autopiloting, pubbie scaring, and a whole lot more are TOTALLY LEGAL IN EVE. Soaking up a couple of games worth of SP is nothing compared to these.
...and then you go and prove me wrong about seeming smart for a first-year. That should be YOUR argument is stupid. You know what else is stupid? Providing evidence of your own illiteracy whle trying to call someone else stupid.
And with that said, I've thought of a relatively simple almost-complete solution. Time-based SP earned can never be more than triple your WPs.
If you toss down an Uplink at a spawn location and a couple of badly-placed nanohives, then you're going to rake in maybe 200 WP. That means you're still getting well under 1000 SP for an AFK match. You may as well have already passed your cap at that point. If you don't do anything at all, you get the nothing you earned.
It might hold some really poorly-performing new players back, but most of them can rake in more WPs than someone who's not in the game, and someone performing that terrible should really be trying to pick up their game, not asking for more handouts.
Add an in-game report function and have someone from the dev team who can deliberately enter games with a flagged player to watch for the requisite behaviour. In the meantime, if the devs confirm it's an explo |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD
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Posted - 2013.03.26 17:16:00 -
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:/
this chat got boring after i went to sleep. |
Nomed Deeps
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Posted - 2013.03.26 17:20:00 -
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Quote:Also come back to me in two months and tell what your stance on AFK farming is then.
Been here since last year. Please try another excuse.
You AFKers are getting quite creative. |
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Posted - 2013.03.26 17:23:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:hey, don't hate on us, it's called burn out, we can't stand playing the game anymore, but we believe in it's promise.
so what do we do?
we afk farm so we're not left in the dust. they're pub matches, get over it, they're only there to gain SP and isk
lol. Glad I left Zion. Good guys indeed.
My burn out is coming from having to play ambush all the time because skirmish is pointless with all the red line snipers and afk farmers. I could join them, but unlike some people, I have principles that I don't abandon just because of a little burn out. I'd rather not play than be part of the problem. Unfortunately for CCP and myself, it's causing me to simply not play. I grind out my SP cap, then go do something that's actually fun, because right now, with all the stupid crap people like you are doing, DUST is not fun.
Deadeyes Anterie wrote:Power > Honor
No CEO would denounce AFK'ing if it was making his mercenaries more powerful.
Blanket statements are tricky. One exception and you're dead wrong. Let's just go ahead and say in this instance, you're dead wrong. However, clearly, not by much, as even corps like Zion that call themselves the good guys are okay with it. Then again, I stopped believing the Zion good guy propoganda a while back.
Really tried to read this whole thread, but it started boiling down to two dudes going at it. As a result this thread has become basically worthless. Not enough discussion on solving the problem and too much back and forth attacks.
Unlike EVE, passive would not work as well in a FPS. This was stated by several people, and I agree with that particular point. The best solution I have seen mentioned is a gtfo of the MCC approach. In the army, if we showed any hestitation to get out of the plane, there was a dude to give you a 'gentle' push. Sure, you could throw a hissy fit and refuse, but then you wouldn't be in the army much longer.
An easy option might be the vote mechanic some games like counter-strike had in place. People vote to kick people out. In this particular instance, the vote could be vetoed by the player selected for the vote by going into a side screen and showing they are still active. Again, easily worked around, because a player willing to AFK in visual range of his screen could then get up and click. Taking it a step further, after having been voted as worthy of a kick for AFK'ing, they could then go into a full monitor mode, wherein they would be subject to active observation by a system that actively checks to see if they are moving and/or shooting - or more simply put, not AFK. This could also be worked around, but it would be more difficult. This is in no way ideal, however. I'd actually hate this system, but right now I hate AFK farmers more.
Anyway, more solutions, less bickering. |
sharted pantaloon
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Posted - 2013.03.26 17:35:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote::/
this chat got boring after i went to sleep.
nah, the devs just decided to condense 5 or six other threads into this one, so we're struggling to find a solid base for the ranting to continue. Have faith, I expect the flaming should start up within a couple more pages.
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General Tiberius1
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.03.26 17:36:00 -
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sharted pantaloon wrote:General Tiberius1 wrote::/
this chat got boring after i went to sleep. nah, the devs just decided to condense 5 or six other threads into this one, so we're struggling to find a solid base for the ranting to continue. Have faith, I expect the flaming should start up within a couple more pages.
can we start the trolling now?
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Vaerana Myshtana
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.03.26 17:38:00 -
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sharted pantaloon wrote:"If the AFK farmers want to stand in the middle of the battlefield the entire match- more power to them." So, wouldn't that be the equivalent of AFK ratfarming in nulsec?
Which, in the context of my thread, is fine. If you go AFK in EVE, nullsec or not, you run the risk of getting blown up by anybody who happens to come along. In nullsec, the risk is just that much more intense.
By comparison, standing in your MCC carries (in my estimation) less risk than AFK mining in hisec. I see AFK miners getting blown up all the time (especially in ice belts).
If an AFK miner loses a single Retriever, that's about 40 million ISK down the drain. If they lose a Mackinaw (Tech 2 of the same ship), that's about 150 million ISK. That also ignores any income they lose during the time it takes for them to get refitted and back into the belts.
By comparison, a single AFK farmer getting grenadurkaed will lose a free suit and perhaps 150,000 ISK from getting dropped from the match. That's a 1,000-fold decrease from the risk of AFK mining in a Mackinaw, or three orders of magnitude.
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Now, let's compare the AFK "dropper" who deploys Nanohives and Drop Uplinks in the MCC to an actual Player who reaps the exact same benefits in terms of ISK and SP by deploying these things on the battlefield.
Both characters build a Militia Logistics suit at a cost of around 5,000 ISK a pop (not at PS3, can't check exact pricing).
The AFK Farmer (AFKF) spawns in the MCC or redzone and deploys a Drop Uplink and two Nanohives. He then camps the rest of the battle in the safest hidey-hole he can find. He dies once to a suicide grenade, but comes back and respawns before getting timed out.
The Player spawns as well and moves into the battlefield, trying to find good spots to deploy his payload. In the course of the game, this character dies 5 times.
Both characters earn 300 WP, collecting 5,500 SP and 150,000 ISK.
The AFKF gets a net of 145,000 ISK because he lost 1 fitting. The Player gets a net of 130,000 ISK because he lost 4 fittings.
This is a clear example of accumulating currency faster than normal game play.
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sharted pantaloon
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Posted - 2013.03.26 17:52:00 -
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Vaerana Myshtana wrote:[quote=sharted pantaloon]
The Player spawns as well and moves into the battlefield, trying to find good spots to deploy his payload. In the course of the game, this character dies 5 times.
Both characters earn 300 WP, collecting 5,500 SP and 150,000 ISK.
The AFKF gets a net of 145,000 ISK because he lost 1 fitting. The Player gets a net of 125,000 ISK because he lost 5 fittings.
This is a clear example of accumulating currency faster than normal game play.
Um, no, that is an example of someone who needs to learn to stop running in a straight line. One player netting more SP/ISK doing nothing than some noobtard screaming "Leroy Jenkin" is not an example of normal game play.
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Vaerana Myshtana
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Posted - 2013.03.26 17:58:00 -
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sharted pantaloon wrote:Vaerana Myshtana wrote:[quote=sharted pantaloon]
The Player spawns as well and moves into the battlefield, trying to find good spots to deploy his payload. In the course of the game, this character dies 5 times.
Both characters earn 300 WP, collecting 5,500 SP and 150,000 ISK.
The AFKF gets a net of 145,000 ISK because he lost 1 fitting. The Player gets a net of 125,000 ISK because he lost 5 fittings.
This is a clear example of accumulating currency faster than normal game play. Um, no, that is an example of someone who needs to learn to stop running in a straight line. One player netting more SP/ISK doing nothing than some noobtard screaming "Leroy Jenkin" is not an example of normal game play.
Dying five times in the course of a battle is pretty "normal" considering the after-action leaderboards.
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Sentient Archon
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Nomed Deeps wrote:Quote:this is EXACTLY what us AFKers have been telling them to do all along... not only are we enjoying the free sp WE ARE PROTESTING AGAINST THIS BACKWARDS SYSTEM Out of all the excuses I've heard for AFKing, that is probably the most entertaining.
There is no excuse to AFK farm. AFK farmers do it because its an option available to them. Why even bother playing a game when you don't get adequate rewards for playing well in the game. And by rewards I mean the bling bling stuff. Almost every time I AFK farm I get some really cool bling.
So on sunday I played a few games and beasted like the beast I am. Most games I went 25/0 and greater. This one game I went 41/0. Y'all would think I would get something cool. 545000 ISK was all I got. I could give a kittens ass about ISK. Im rich! I want the bling stuff. With going 41/0 and getting 2200 WP and being number 1 on the leaderboards y'all think I would get something. Nope! Nada! And I carried my team by preventing the red dots from hacking 2 objectives.
The very next game after that I AFKed. 0/0/0 K/D/WP. I get a Surya, 5 Heavy Vk0 and a Limbus. 4 million ISk worth of stuff.
Meh! I am gonna continue to AFK farm till I start getting cool bling for doing well in a pubbies. |
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