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Deadeyes Anterie Ill Omens 315	Posted - 2013.03.26 05:02:00 - [1] - Quote I dislike AFK farming just as much as you, but let me just inform you that your post has delighted them and you have made them enjoy what they do even more. They thrive at pissing people off, or don't give two fucks what people think about them (why they don't have any issues with AFK farming) The forum mods have a strange double standard when it comes to calling players out who do this. They let a 12 page thread go where I called out an Imperfect with a video, however they deleted a thread where I called out some lesser know Corporations. It's a violation of forum policy, unless of course it's an imperfect then the mods let it go. There is nothing you can really do, and accepting that and moving on will make the game a lot more enjoyable. I strongly suggest you squad up with 3 other good players and make AFK players irrelevent to your chances of victory. That's what I did and I really don't care that much about it anymore. P.S The blacklist was mine
Deadeyes Anterie Ill Omens 315	Posted - 2013.03.26 05:07:00 - [2] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Deadeyes Anterie wrote: The forum mods have a strange double standard when it comes to calling players out who do this. They let a 12 page thread go where I called out an Imperfect with a video, however they deleted a thread where I called out some lesser know Corporations. It's a violation of forum policy, unless of course it's an imperfect then the mods let it go. Pretty sure he said naming corps was fine, naming individual players is not. The GM's deleted the names and Corporations.
Deadeyes Anterie Ill Omens 315	Posted - 2013.03.26 05:19:00 - [3] - Quote This was my suggestion to remove the incentive for AFK. It would be 100x more effective than actually going after the behavior itself which will never really work. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=559441#post559441
Deadeyes Anterie Ill Omens 315	Posted - 2013.03.26 05:24:00 - [4] - Quote Sada Mokmo wrote: Whenever this kind of thread shows up, gm answer is usually that an anti-idle system is being implemented in a future build... Anyone who believes there will be an anti-idol system with enough teeth to actually work is a fool. There are to many side-cases where they have to error on the side of caution. It will be so easy to figure out a way to bypass any 'detection' they implement it will be a pointless exercise on their part.
Deadeyes Anterie Ill Omens 315	Posted - 2013.03.26 05:28:00 - [5] - Quote Rifter7 wrote: i think if they just increased the passive skillpoints to include the active skillpoint cap and actually removed the active skillpoints, merging active booster into passive, that any incentive to afk would be gone. that's how it works in eve online. people would play to make isk and get salvage- enemy player salvage preferably. i dunno tho eve requires a subscription.. and dust atm allows free accounts (not sure if theyre going to implement the 10-20 dollar buy in on release). it would make alts an issue for sure i guess.. Would they then make the passive booster 14,000 AUR/Week so they don't throw away half their revenue?
Deadeyes Anterie Ill Omens 315	Posted - 2013.03.26 05:32:00 - [6] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Deadeyes Anterie wrote: Sada Mokmo wrote: Whenever this kind of thread shows up, gm answer is usually that an anti-idle system is being implemented in a future build... Anyone who believes there will be an anti-idol system with enough teeth to actually work is a fool. There are to many side-cases where they have to error on the side of caution. It will be so easy to figure out a way to bypass any 'detection' they implement it will be a pointless exercise on their part. Why are you so concerned about how others play? Even if they aren't actually playing... So is this weekly cap the final decision, or are we ever going back to a roll over system? Cause this feels like community service where I have to put in a certain number of hours in a month -_- The general health of a game relies on the community as a whole. If bots were allowed to run unchecked in EvE and generate AFK ISK at a high level it would ruin the entire economy, and the game as a whole. Dust AFKing is botting effectively and it's hurting the game community as a whole.
Deadeyes Anterie Ill Omens 316	Posted - 2013.03.26 05:41:00 - [7] - Quote Vanda-Kon wrote: WyrmHero1945 wrote: Vanda-Kon wrote: WyrmHero1945 wrote: Dude play ambush, skirmish is broken atm. I like objectives and more purpose of positioning. I never play ambush. Me too but not worth it with its current problems. Low ISK gains, redlining, AFKers...Ambush lets you win more SP/ISK in less time and isn't as annoying as the current state skirmish is. I actually die less in ambush than skirmish lol. I guess I'll have to consider it. Or buy COD for the same thing. Seeking refuge in the COD community, have that many ****** people made their home here?
Deadeyes Anterie Ill Omens 316	Posted - 2013.03.26 05:47:00 - [8] - Quote Vanda-Kon wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: Vanda-Kon wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: Woop Woop. Freeze the AFK police are here! We've got an AFKer wanting to cap his A-hole skill. We got a cry baby who want shut up whats your point? That you are acting like an A-hole, one level at a time. It's not acting.
Deadeyes Anterie Ill Omens 316	Posted - 2013.03.26 05:56:00 - [9] - Quote JL3Eleven wrote: Correct. I don't feel pity for cry babies. Come up with productive solutions or quit crying. I actually agree with you, I posted my solution on page two of this thread. QQ'ing or posting a thread about an issue that is bothering you (whichever you prefer to call it) actually brings attention to the issue. After my thread on Kain it was in their 'weekly update' a few days later of things they are working on or looking at. Making posts on things that you think are wrong with the game is really the best way to get it addressed. Does posting a solution help, maybe?, but it's productive either way in my opinion. Unless of course you don't want to see the issue addressed in which case I could see why AFK threads seem to annoy you so much.
Deadeyes Anterie Ill Omens 316	Posted - 2013.03.26 06:02:00 - [10] - Quote General Tiberius1 wrote: Vanda-Kon wrote: I just played three horrific games that were losses from the word go. First game I didn't realize we had people going 0/0 until the end of the match. The next match was just as bad, so halfway through I checked the score-sheet and started to see the same names from the previous game on my team. Did I team kill them? No. Did I send hate mail? No. I sent about ten blank emails to the person of a recognizable corp. What we have here is failure to communicate!. In my opinion, I hope you'll agree, the spam blank mail now represents hate mail to MCC squatters. It's about the same amount of effort. The next match I scanned the MCC at the very start of the match. Three non movers. I knew another loss was coming. We wont beat them. So I thought, "If you can't beat them, join the ones who didn't join you in beating them", and I almost started to farm SP myself like a big hypocrite. No, I couldn't do it. I just shut the PS3 off after three games. Yay, fun. Yeah, I know, cool story bro. There will be a sequel if this rotten gamesmanship continues. To all you real players, add these farming wasteoids to your contacts and spam them with blank mail then delete their contacts. If not that, please do not join the corps of these players. If someone wants to compile a blacklist of these players and their corps . . . . run some names in the mud. They are killing the dust community. The only other way is for absolutely everybody to farm skill until CCP realizes nobody is on the battlefield. hey, don't hate on us, it's called burn out, we can't stand playing the game anymore, but we believe in it's promise. so what do we do? we afk farm so we're not left in the dust. they're pub matches, get over it, they're only there to gain SP and isk Do you have any idea how much you sound like a drug addict, I can't take it anymore it's just to much to play the game. I just need my sweet sweet SP. God if I lose some SP I don't know if I could go on living...

Deadeyes Anterie Ill Omens 317	Posted - 2013.03.26 06:12:00 - [11] - Quote JL3Eleven wrote: nice post. I agree with you I don't like it either but you must remember why we have it. To let the players that don't get a lot of WP's for the time spent in battle. It helps them get ISK and SP where otherwise they would be left further behind. That is how you would solve this problem, figure out a way to let the less skilled receive points while not letting others abuse the system. I have came up with my own idea instead of QQing about it like others but that would deserve its own post. That was the point of putting multipliers on points. The first 250 earned WP would be = to 1250 WP earned on the higher tiered levels. It means the bad players would still get nice adjustment to their tiny WP scores to ensure they got decent rewards, and players on the high end would still be getting rewards well into the 2,000 and 3,000 WP marks (although massively diminished) Basically it's a system that rewards extremely well at the start, and tappers off at tiers to ensure the top tier players are not getting insane rewards. It just takes out the free lunch rewards for doing nothing. I think it would also result in a better feeling of purpose on the battlefield when you are rewarded for what you do instead of just existing.
Deadeyes Anterie Ill Omens 317	Posted - 2013.03.26 06:15:00 - [12] - Quote JL3Eleven wrote: Everyone must play like I play or I'm telling. That's what I hear. A better analogy is you find out your neighbor is committing fraud and earning a ** ton of cash, that's not really my business so whatever. Then you both go the the auction to buy ** and he outbids you on everything. Now you are probably going to be a little pissed. If it wasn't going to be a free market economy I doubt many people would give two fucks, but some people have foresight.
Deadeyes Anterie Ill Omens 318	Posted - 2013.03.26 06:25:00 - [13] - Quote JL3Eleven wrote: Deadeyes Anterie wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: nice post. I agree with you I don't like it either but you must remember why we have it. To let the players that don't get a lot of WP's for the time spent in battle. It helps them get ISK and SP where otherwise they would be left further behind. That is how you would solve this problem, figure out a way to let the less skilled receive points while not letting others abuse the system. I have came up with my own idea instead of QQing about it like others but that would deserve its own post. That was the point of putting multipliers on points. The first 250 earned WP would be = to 1250 WP earned on the higher tiered levels. It means the bad players would still get nice adjustment to their tiny WP scores to ensure they got decent rewards, and players on the high end would still be getting rewards well into the 2,000 and 3,000 WP marks (although massively diminished) Basically it's a system that rewards extremely well at the start, and tappers off at tiers to ensure the top tier players are not getting insane rewards. It just takes out the free lunch rewards for doing nothing. I think it would also result in a better feeling of purpose on the battlefield when you are rewarded for what you do instead of just existing. I see where you are going but that is not helping the situation. You are showing favoritism to the unskilled and not helping them learn the ropes to actually be better players. For example if you wanted to train players to be more aggressive you would give them SP for being around objectives where kills are taking place or objectives are being taken. If they are snipers maybe points for spotting and add more points to assists. Basically no points for just showing up. I'm all for reworking the SP system as well don't get my wrong. I am just saying rewards for actions is a step in the right direction over rewards for doing absolutely nothing. The reason CCP picked the rewards for doing nothing is it's easier to implement and it will reward players who don't do **** and keep them playing the game (look at all the redline snipers who are happy with 100-200WP).
Deadeyes Anterie Ill Omens 318	Posted - 2013.03.26 06:34:00 - [14] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: Buster Friently wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: You did not post a solution. If we only have passive why would I bother actually playing? I would make the same? But since I cannot read. Da herpa derpa derp back at ya. You might not bother playing. I count you in the group of worthless afkers after all. If you enjoy playing dust intrinsically (look it up) then you don't need an extrinsic stimulus. If all you want is to see your sp go up, please feel free to play click a cow, I hear it has no click cap. Please QQ in the corner. Your tears are getting my socks wet. Do you have any solutions or just tears? Wow. Were you born this stupid? Funny how you're the only one that can't read my solution. Sorry buddy, tutors for tots time is over. If you don't get it by now, well - good luck. Passive Only SP is not a good solution. Here are some problems. There is no incentive to play to make your character better. This is a primary motivator for many players and it's the reason the playerbase is still a decent size. Encouraging active play from members is a great boon for the game and community. There is no monthly subscription. Passive only SP works in EvE because players are already paying you money. When you take the rewards for active gameplay, and you don't have the player on a sub you are going to lose a ton of activity, and customers. The game functions on loss during gameplay. This means the more people play the more AUR gear is lost an in turn the more money CCP makes. They want to encourage tons of gameplay, and a good way to do this is require 8-10 hours of gameplay a week in order to Cap out your SP. The game divides active and SP boosters, this means customers have more options, and in turn more appealing ways to spend their money. A passive only SP system means you can never get better faster through gameplay. Much like EvE you would never get better than someone who started before you even if you play 10x as much. There is no place for this system in a FPS.
Deadeyes Anterie Ill Omens 320	Posted - 2013.03.26 06:42:00 - [15] - Quote I hate the whole blame only CCP nonsense. Do they deserve the most blame, yes of course. Their rewards system is extremely bad and it shows they are just trying to retain as many people as possible with it instead of you know reward people for what they do in battle. Players also have to accept some blame because at the end of the day getting something for nothing as an unintended consequence while negatively effecting others is a selfish act. Being selfish while ruining other peoples games means other people will be annoyed with you. So if you are going to be a jerk and AFK, at least take responsibility for it. Don't blame CCP for your own personal actions. You should be here to pillage other peoples land and women in game, or you know try to make the game better. Being a pest is well
Deadeyes Anterie Ill Omens 320	Posted - 2013.03.26 06:51:00 - [16] - Quote ladwar wrote: i really don't see where its all going besides QQing and agruing over who has the best insults. guess what happens when the afkers hit the sp cap.0wp=0sp I doubt it, it's probably just time to switch characters.
Deadeyes Anterie Ill Omens 320	Posted - 2013.03.26 06:55:00 - [17] - Quote General Tiberius1 wrote: Deadeyes Anterie wrote: I hate the whole blame only CCP nonsense. Do they deserve the most blame, yes of course. Their rewards system is extremely bad and it shows they are just trying to retain as many people as possible with it instead of you know reward people for what they do in battle. Players also have to accept some blame because at the end of the day getting something for nothing as an unintended consequence while negatively effecting others is a selfish act. Being selfish while ruining other peoples games means other people will be annoyed with you. So if you are going to be a jerk and AFK, at least take responsibility for it. Don't blame CCP for your own personal actions. You should be here to pillage other peoples land and women in game, or you know try to make the game better. Being a pest is well you mean you don't already do that? we're faceless mercs, what are they going to do? sue us? I guess I just don't take any satisfaction when the pillaging is consensual. ^ I realize that makes me sound like a rapist.
Deadeyes Anterie Ill Omens 320	Posted - 2013.03.26 06:57:00 - [18] - Quote Vanda-Kon wrote: Deadeyes Anterie wrote: I hate the whole blame only CCP nonsense. Do they deserve the most blame, yes of course. Their rewards system is extremely bad and it shows they are just trying to retain as many people as possible with it instead of you know reward people for what they do in battle. Players also have to accept some blame because at the end of the day getting something for nothing as an unintended consequence while negatively effecting others is a selfish act. Being selfish while ruining other peoples games means other people will be annoyed with you. So if you are going to be a jerk and AFK, at least take responsibility for it. Don't blame CCP for your own personal actions. You're right, CCP shouldn't get the blame, at first. You would think that if you told other players, hey, you're messing up what could be a good thing, they'd naturally respond for the good of the game, without needing devs to create entire line of don't be a d-bag code. The mere fact that the known players from known corps are doing this and none of the ceo's seem to be denouncing it among their members shows that skill and honor are not always shared by top players. Power > Honor No CEO would denounce AFK'ing if it was making his mercenaries more powerful.
Deadeyes Anterie Ill Omens 320	Posted - 2013.03.26 07:03:00 - [19] - Quote crazy space 1 wrote: Whatever it's just a broken beta. I mean it's not like they won't be reseting AUR becuase making you pay real money for a game with gaint borken bugs and unfinished design would be crazy right? oh wait... I'm thinking I should get into the video game business. I hear people just throw money at you
Deadeyes Anterie Ill Omens 320	Posted - 2013.03.26 07:03:00 - [20] - Quote crazy space 1 wrote: Buster Friently wrote: Afkers are pathetic trash. I've learned to feel a little bit sorry for them. I mean, what kind of loser must you be to afk farm sp in a game that already gives you passive SP? The behavior definitely taints the game as a whole, but know they won't last long. Last night I AFK farmed the MCC becuase my girlfriend surprized me by taking her top off. But not only did I get laid, I also got a ton of isk and sp. Ca Ching This is the first valid reason I've heard to AFK.

Deadeyes Anterie Ill Omens 320	Posted - 2013.03.26 07:09:00 - [21] - Quote Vanda-Kon wrote: Deadeyes Anterie wrote: Vanda-Kon wrote: Deadeyes Anterie wrote: I hate the whole blame only CCP nonsense. Do they deserve the most blame, yes of course. Their rewards system is extremely bad and it shows they are just trying to retain as many people as possible with it instead of you know reward people for what they do in battle. Players also have to accept some blame because at the end of the day getting something for nothing as an unintended consequence while negatively effecting others is a selfish act. Being selfish while ruining other peoples games means other people will be annoyed with you. So if you are going to be a jerk and AFK, at least take responsibility for it. Don't blame CCP for your own personal actions. You're right, CCP shouldn't get the blame, at first. You would think that if you told other players, hey, you're messing up what could be a good thing, they'd naturally respond for the good of the game, without needing devs to create entire line of don't be a d-bag code. The mere fact that the known players from known corps are doing this and none of the ceo's seem to be denouncing it among their members shows that skill and honor are not always shared by top players. Power > Honor No CEO would denounce AFK'ing if it was making his mercenaries more powerful. True, these players usually do it when they are solo anyway. That type of power is an illusion. If those players have bad player ethics, they'll probably do shady things inside their corps and corps like that will crumble or just fade over time. Power is no more honor than time is money. Time is time before it's money. And so it goes, honor first. Longer lasting too. I don't know man the people who AFK are usually the people who play so ******* much they just can't take any more matches. It's rare to see someone with less than 5,000 kills AFK. It's a comforting thought that they will not be anything, but in all reality the people who are obsessed with ISK and SP farming are the ones who will probably be the most successful Mercs. They are going after any edge in battle at any cost, and that is usually a winning formula. Sure a lot of people hate you but it doesn't really bother them when they stomp your face into the ground.
Deadeyes Anterie Ill Omens 320	Posted - 2013.03.26 07:15:00 - [22] - Quote JL3Eleven wrote: Vanda-Kon wrote: Vanda-Kon wrote: [quote=General Tiberius1] Not cool. I actually thought you were vying for the devil, not being sarcastic. Sorry bout that. Shoulda noticed the icons uprolled eyes. No man/woman that's just not cool. at all. ever. Talking about ethics my butt. A bunny acting sensitive, now I know there is some trolling going on. Nice try, and he probably would have fallen for it. You are .
Deadeyes Anterie Ill Omens 320	Posted - 2013.03.26 07:25:00 - [23] - Quote Vanda-Kon wrote: don't worry, you can still be the evil guy from WWII. How can I pick from so many of them? My American public school education has taught me that anyone who opposed US interests was evil.
Deadeyes Anterie Ill Omens 320	Posted - 2013.03.26 08:00:00 - [24] - Quote Regnyum has a harder time establishing his reputation with forum goers because he is banned so frequently ;D If you ever play him in a pub match you will understand that he is easily at the same skill level of protoman and the other elite Imperfects really quickly.
Deadeyes Anterie Ill Omens 320	Posted - 2013.03.26 08:10:00 - [25] - Quote http://www.dust514stats.com/leaderboard.cfm Was just curious to see Regnyum and I realized that site is basically a Logi circle jerk. 1.25 K/D player ranked above Regnyums 20 KD, think some math might need to be reworked, I enjoy a good logi, but come on.
Deadeyes Anterie Ill Omens 320	Posted - 2013.03.26 09:27:00 - [26] - Quote This whole Vanda-Kon vs. J3Eleven thread is getting to long and boring. Why did you use the site I posted (and I said was not good) and then claim superiority when JL3 is ranked much higher than you anyways. 1.2 Million WP is a ton of playtime, so you are not a noob clearly. Since I've actually squaded with JL3 in the past and he is one of the best people I've played with acting like you are better than him is kind of funny to me. That said I don't know anything about you or how you play. You're also are in a Corporation I don't know much about. Joining a strong Corporation can make you a much better player. Since I joined Ill Omens and started playing with other pretty skilled players my KDR and other stats has been skyrocketing so stats don't tell the whole story.
Deadeyes Anterie Ill Omens 321	Posted - 2013.03.26 11:28:00 - [27] - Quote JL3Eleven wrote: I'm honestly the second worst in my corp fyi. I find that hard to believe. I've seen some pfbhz in pubs where I just figured they knew someone because they were pretty average. Plus being over the corp KDR probably means you are better than average, or at least not near the bottom in terms of skill.
Deadeyes Anterie Ill Omens 321	Posted - 2013.03.26 11:49:00 - [28] - Quote Kreayshawn Coruscanti wrote: Deadeyes Anterie wrote: JL3Eleven wrote: I'm honestly the second worst in my corp fyi. I find that hard to believe. I've seen some pfbhz in pubs where I just figured they knew someone because they were pretty average. Plus being over the corp KDR probably means you are better than average, or at least not near the bottom in terms of skill. You talk like we're some elitist corp with elitist standards. If you mesh with the group you'd be accepted. We don't care about your KDR if you're a great person :D Also, I saw some highest skirmish kill counts being thrown out.. Mine is 66, James' is 74, and PiercingSerenity's is 75. We're all assaults I've been looked down on and called a noob by so many pfbhz I figured you guys were all hardcore elite players. You guys probably trump the imperfect hate i get. Guess I've just run into all the forum warriors and trolls, shame they are the representation I've got of your whole corporation.