The only thing really bothers me from other players is when someone joins a match, and then doesn't show up to play.

There were quite a few corp players in the pub match and I knew it was going to be a close battle since both teams had good players. I also was kind of expecting a good performance from Kain to help us balance the tide against the Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunters.

It's clear that Kain Spero was just joining pub matches to get sp before the downtime, with no intention of playing the games he joined.

I understand the temptation, even more so tonight with the weekly cap reset at the upcoming downtime there is a lot of speculation that there is a 24 hour period to get your 200k WP before the weekly reset (bonus week of active SP if you can play ~20 matches today). However the pursuit of better skills should never cloud your decency as a player in the community.

Being bad in a match excusable, taking other people gear is excusable, but leeching a match for more SP and ISK, at the expense of all the other players on your team is in my opinion pretty inexcusable. Players obsession with getting the most SP possible to be the best players is an attitude that seems really central to Dust and more specifically the Imperfects. It is mostly a good thing it breeds high end competition, however when players start to do things like this to gain those advantages it hurts the Dust community.

I know Kain is really popular around here, and he does a lot for the Dust community, I guess I just hope this serves as a point to how even the best players can be ****** if the pursuit of more skills is to great.

It's simple, don't leech. If you accept a match even a pub match I feel like there is some obligation to at least play in that match. If you leech matches for more sp and isk you look bad, and so does your corporation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b-9StuE_Os&feature=youtu.be

[Just uploaded the raw video first 20 seconds show the leeching, no audio as I was not expecting to be recording]

*To the inevitable why where you in the MCC*

-As you can see from my score I was playing the match, after I died I checked the score real quick and noticed Kain had 0 WP, I then spawned in the MCC to see if he was in fact just leeching the match. That's when I hit record.

Blame CCP for their 5 SP per second in battle (or whatever it is at after the weekly cap was implemented yesterday).

no way. blame him. how dare u try to put it on CCP.

Not kains style he could have hardlocked or crashed this seems more like an attempt to generate drama using q popular and well known member of community I doubt this event even happend tbh

????? I'm confused. DONT blame CCP for a game mechanic they set up and anyone with half a brain could take advantage of? Why? I'm confused.

And even if Kain was recorded doing this it's probably because of IRL circumstance or was busy elsewhere. If it was anyone else who isn't trying to be an active leader of the Dust community this thread may of gained some ground with me - but there's really no way I'll believe Kain is purposely trying to ruin pubbies good times when he's one of the advocates of expanding dust.

If you are suggesting that Kain had intended to play the match. Waited to get into the match, picked the spawn point and pressed X, then in the next 10 seconds between his spawn, and being able to move his character something came up to occupy him for the next 25 minutes it sounds pretty far-fetched. Your love for the guy means you will believe what you will and I understand that. Just realize that it's by far the least likely explanation for what happened here. If he didn't spawn in I would be more likely to agree you might be correct.

What if this guy just had to take a flaming dump and thought he would be back in time?

If you continue to catch him doing it then by all means continue to smear him by posting these threads - I love a good reason to troll. But it's not my love for anyone that I say what I say, it's a fact he's done more then most. You're posting an assumption with little detail other then, "He spawned then went afk." Did you send him a message asking why? Or did you just go a head and make this thread pointing it out for everyone to see?

You're right to say he's popular around here. For good reason. so if you want to smear him you need something concrete, not a single pub match.

Well in this case I think it did cost us our match, and I took notice. it's the risk you take if you decide to leech.

The 24 hour window to make 300,000 SP is what I believe caused people to leech. I wouldn't expect that Kane leeched before, or would again because the incentive to do so is now gone.

I want to bring attention to how even the best people in the community will make bad calls when given a hard set of circumstances. Make my limited term SP by leeching a few matches I don't have time to play to stay at the highest levels of competition.

It probably wouldn't have effected the battle, and nobody would have probably really taken that much notice. It's not that hard to justify leeching.

Well in this case I think it did cost us our match, and I took notice. it's the risk you take if you decide to leech.

CONCORD to investigate Kane Spero for theft of services? http://tinyurl.com/bgcd8no

If you continue to catch him doing it then by all means continue to smear him by posting these threads - I love a good reason to troll. But it's not my love for anyone that I say what I say, it's a fact he's done more then most. You're posting an assumption with little detail other then, "He spawned then went afk." Did you send him a message asking why? Or did you just go a head and make this thread pointing it out for everyone to see?

You're right to say he's popular around here. For good reason. so if you want to smear him you need something concrete, not a single pub match.

Pub matches are all 90% of the community plays. To dismiss them is really pretty arrogant.

That said the article is a bit sensational, I'm not sure how I feel. I kind of wanted to bring some attention to the issue of elite level players scamming in game mechanics for further advantages. Now I don't know what I started.

At least with redline snipers they are trying, and they may actually think they are helping... That's another story.

I expect one thing from all players, they will actually play the game and try to help the team in some way. To be honest I am more bothered by the fact that one of the elite level players is leeching pub matches to stay ahead of me in SP, while at the same time hindering my gameplay by taking a man off my side of the battlefield. That bothers me a lot more than this specific loss.