Do you know what was he doing at home when this "leeching" happened? No one is immune to real-world obligations while playing Dust. Kain could easily be asked by a family member to do something urgent, something more important than playing a petty pub match.

So if a blueberry does it, who gives a **** right? But if Kain does it OH **** the world will end!!!!!!

Pub matches are all 90% of the community plays. To dismiss them is really pretty arrogant.

That said the article is a bit sensational, I'm not sure how I feel. I kind of wanted to bring some attention to the issue of elite level players scamming in game mechanics for further advantages. Now I don't know what I started.

OP, was it really your attention to attack someone who spends time and money trying to make this community better for everyone just so you could point out one pub match? 100 leechers combined wouldn't be as **** as what you've just started.

When a known member of an active corp is leeching sp I think it probably needs to be looked at. It's going to have some level of impact on the game in the future. My goal is not to smear anyone, to be honest I probably wouldn't have even noticed an afk member if I didn't know who they were. It's because he was Kain that I checked his score. If it were any other player I knew well enough to expect something out of and they let me down that badly in a match their name would have been posted just as readily.

At the point that it's unfair to hold him to a higher standard. It's that higher standard that made me take notice so I suppose you are right in that regard.

I will not feel bad for posting a video of what I experienced in a game. I had no grude against Kane, I only took note because it was a player I expected to help our side. If it were any other well known players It would have been the same story different person. If it was a nobody I wouldn't have even noticed they didn't show up to be honest.

You are just trying to smear him. Admit it.

Also he's not "leeching" sp. his actions aren't directly causing you to earn less. Besides he makes what, 5K sp for sitting idle for a fair while. It's not like he gets some huge unfair advantage.

And how do you know he didn't hard freeze or something? It's full of bugs and exploits and we're MEANT to exploit them that's why it's in beta.

So he is not leeching he is just farming 5k a match while not playing, which is not an unfair advantage.

Then he hard froze, and also he was meant to exploit so it's fine. You just seem kind of desperate to defend the actions to be honest.

If it didn't have a name you knew attached you wouldn't of recorded. This topic is now over. I thought you wanted a resolution to an issue - but now you've made it clear you would of trashed anyone with name around here just because they're known.

There is a "Leave Battle" option.

Are you telling me also that this important stuff happened to come about exactly when he was spawning and before he dove out of the MCC, something that would take 2 seconds at most to happen?

And even if all that had happened in that exact moment, i'd like to think that someone as prominent in this game's community would understand that leaving the battle and thus making room for another player would be the sensible choice. Having a player down the whole battle isn't something anyone wants to deal with.

I'd like to see if it was a nobody player doing this on your match, how would you feel? How about a whole squad sitting on the MCC? What would you think of them? "Oh well, we need to understand, we don't have the whole picture, they're probably attending to something important".

If you reread the post it's pretty clear I said I would not have even noticed an afk player leeching if it wasn't a name I checked to see how they were doing in the match. I don't normally check other players in a match below the 11 slot since I can't see them without scrolling. It was the fact that it's a know solid player that put me in a position to check his score. For that reason It's true I would only have posted a known player here, not out of hatred for known players, but by the reason I don't check players I've never heard of before on the leaderboards.

@ Sota Pop

I don't think a reputation should make you a target, and I don't think it should make you impervious to other people calling you out. I did only noticed him on my team because he had a well known reputation, that is the reason I checked his score when we were losing the match. Did his reputation mean I noticed when he did it yes, unfair yes I admit, but like I said I don't check the score of randoms which is why I don't take notice of random leechers. It's not like I went into the match saying how can I make Kane look bad, I was honestly excited he was on my team.

I don't think I made a mistake posting the video because like I said I don't think your reputation should also make you impervious to being accountable for your actions at the end of the day.

If it was a random, would you have still recorded it and made a thread about it?

The fact is, SP farming is done by many people and yet no one ever makes a thread about them but if a well known player does it then hell, we need to doom him to the deepest parts of hell.

Also why don't you understand that this is a beta. I would rather he farms SP now and CCP changes it, than have him farm SP once the game releases.

I've posted too much on this lol

It really isn't a big deal - doubt Kain will care. You may not understand repercussions but it's fine. A lot of us really don't care for pub matches. That may upset many - but blame CCP. We're forced to play in those matches wether we like it or not if we're to progress. What would you prefer, because if a squad of imperfects went AFK as red berries to you - pretty sure you wouldn't be complaining about a loss of fun. And many of us are on level with the destruction they sow out - and we're bored.

We're - so - damn - bored. New game modes please.

I've posted too much on this lol

It really isn't a big deal - doubt Kain will care. You may not understand repercussions but it's fine. A lot of us really don't care for pub matches. That may upset many - but blame CCP. We're forced to play in those matches wether we like it or not if we're to progress. What would you prefer, because if a squad of imperfects went AFK as red berries to you - pretty sure you wouldn't be complaining about a loss of fun. And many of us are on level with the destruction they sow out - and we're bored.

We're - so - damn - bored. New game modes please.

This is a big deal, unless you don't have the capability to express care towards others. Regardless of how you view public matches, many people are playing these just to have fun and you are hindering that by "leeching" for lack of a better term. And while CCP can certainly take measures to prevent this from happening, I know there intention wasn't for people to "leech" and ruin others' experience so I won't blame them, I will blame the people who's intention was to "leech."

Also you are not "forced to play in those matches." That is why passive skill points exists. If you don't have to time to play as much as others than don't complain that you can't keep up with them. And the whole "we're bored" excuse is extremely poor.

If you are to bored to be bothered to play the game, here is an idea take a break from the game. If you are only drudging through the gameplay for SP why are you even playing the game if you don't enjoy it?

Here is a great example of what you should not do. Decide you are to bored or to busy to play the game, and then pretend to play the game while not playing the game so you can get more rewards. See that makes you an ******* to the people you hurt who want to play the game and take public matches seriously. For the vast majority of current Dust players Pub matches are the only thing that matters.

To be clear a full squad afk on the other team would also make me sad because I prefer to have good battles, ones where every player who signs up wants to fight and win.

Awesome, great, you have an opinion. Now here's another. I want SP.

Seems we collide :)

Fair enough, seems like we finally understand each other.

I want SP as well, but not enough to play if I don't feel like playing, or leeching matches for those who are saying that's just being smart. My SP shouldn't come at the expense of my own enjoyment or that of others.

Awesome, great, you have an opinion. Now here's another. I want SP.

Seems we collide :)