shotguns fire 12 pellets

Thanks for putting this together SoCal.

Add to the errors that none of these weapons use "clips." They all appear to use magazines or are belt fed.

my scout fit:

FailFit

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sometimes even disgruntled posts can provide information, that's only if you know something about the suit in general though. Seems to be a lot of people angry at the scout suit which really makes no sense to me. But please, this is an invitation to not be a troll, be constructive and we can be buddies. Pretty simple deal :)

Using the Scout suit takes NO SKILL because of the broken shot detection & for some stupid reason high Shield regen was given to this 'default Sniper class'.

I'll give you one i use kinda often: Cause i have like 15 different scouts i use.

FIT NAME: Interceptor Type II

Advanced Scout

2 proto speed mods

advanced AR

standard pistol

1 complex shield extender
1 enhanced

I called my super armor regen scout the fail fit, but this Interceptor is awesome, sprints at 9.7 m/s

If you ever see a scout hauling ass then that's me lol

Alright, new loadout for the speed racers among us.

Interceptor by RolyatDerTeufel

If you have a hankering for running super fast and ARs this might be your kind of loadout. Also, don't forgot to post your own scout loadout and I'll put it up as well. Just please include a paragraph or two on how you play it and what it's good for. Thanks!

BEST SCOUT HERE... enough said

claiming a title that is impossible to figure out?

That's cool corruption.

If you want best, i'll have fastest.

Post your loadout ReGnUm, I'm always curious what the "strongest scout" is wearing. ;)

YUM YUM YUM that bait looks so delicious, alas fair ninja I can not yet reveal my trade secrets

i consider myself to be a pretty good scout not the best but idk. here is my main loadout


Dropsuit: Scout v.k0
Light Weapon: None
Sidearm Weapon: Boundless Breach Submachine Gun
Grenades: Locus Grenades
Equipment Slot 1:None
Equipment Slot 2:None
High-Power Module 1:Complex Shield Extender
High-Power Module 2:Complex Shield Extender
High-Power Module 3:Complex Sidearm Damage Mod
Low-Power Module 1: Militia Armor Repair
Low-Power Module 2: Militia CPU Upgrade
Low-Power Module 3: Militia CPU Upgrade

this setup is not fully finished yet still changing things but its my fav so far

i mainly chase down the enemy with this setup an take objectives as best as i can. the really only weakness this setup has is people using proto breach ar an vehicles but other then that its a really good setup for just killin some enemys. always use lots of cover an try to close the distance between u in the enemy as fast as u can once ur in close its over for them as long as ur good a strafing back an fourth

i have a few other setups for straight dps an anti vehicles that i might post later but dont really use them rite now

This is a beta, the point is to take a good hard look at stats and configurations. While typing out those stat tables I've run into a couple of numbers that seemed off, and we need to explore it to find out what is broken and needs fixing. Let go of your pride a for a bit and realize that this is a testing zone for players to provide feedback on the game.

I don't mind telling my strategies and my loadouts, why? because I made them. I know them better than anyone else, which means I also know how to beat them. Go read my tactic for attacking skirmish on plateau, in it I describe my strategy, and then describe how you would beat it. I tell you where I lay uplinks and my routes, but I'm aware to my weaknesses and know how to change my tactic on the fly.

The only way be on the cutting edge of tactics in a game like this is to learn how to adapt to the people who figured out your last strategy. Otherwise you get stale.

Hey So_Cal, remember me from MAG? I was KatuXiK, I think we were in BYP together

Considering I don't know what BYP stands for I probably wasn't apart of that clan, or if I was I don't remember it. I was in MAG though, I think I bounced around through a couple clans, including 3C and V-C. But i left the game pretty quickly and went to DCUO. So far it's been disappointment after disappointment, so I'm really counting on dust to break my streak lol.

If you do really remember me, I feel bad haha.

Okay, drafting up the two loadouts now you guys posted now.

Quick question, who do you play on running with for Dust?

I'm drafting a small squad of exceptional scouts to be used in dust as special ops for larger clans. I'm focusing my efforts on creating the tightest group of 6-10 guys for advanced team strategies, and hiring myself out to Dust corps. Also, I will be selling my strategies and council to clans. Basically you can think of me as a consultant :)

any chance i can get the raw data for the tables ?

Considering I don't know what BYP stands for I probably wasn't apart of that clan, or if I was I don't remember it. I was in MAG though, I think I bounced around through a couple clans, including 3C and V-C. But i left the game pretty quickly and went to DCUO. So far it's been disappointment after disappointment, so I'm really counting on dust to break my streak lol.

If you do really remember me, I feel bad haha.

Okay, drafting up the two loadouts now you guys posted now.

hmmm let me see what I can do. I work on a Mac so my spreadsheet is in the .numbers type and doesn't translate well, but I'll take a look at the export options and see if I can do something about that.

You guys forgot to mention the scout's biggest weakness... Running into Me.

i think i can live with the mac files...

Haha, see now I actually don't want people to write this post off as just chest-beating because carlos has a point. The way carlos plays is very anti-scout. He is very good and leading scouts into the open and keeping distance between him and the attacking scout. He baits his enemies around corners, and will run from a fight to get a better position. Carlos is a skilled assault player and the best way to really deal with his tactics of baiting are to run the opposite way and try to disappear for a flanking strike.

I converted it to excel, and uploaded it here

You should be able to download it by click File>Download. I don't know if the conversion worked well but it's what I was able to do for right now.

bump to get this thread going again.

WOAH! Thread has been unlocked and brought back... little strange but I'm not complaining. If a dev/GM could clue me into the reason for the lock in the first place maybe I could help make this thread a little safer or something. Anyway... back to theory crafting. Woohoo!

Introduction

Hello! My name is SoCal_Ninja, you may have seen me around the forums or in-game or in other games (I play a lot of different ones). I figured I'd make a place to really dig into the scout class because I'm curious about how people use it and what minds brighter than mine have to say about it. I hope that this thread gets a bumping with your thoughts and exploration of the scout class, and I can't wait to see what you guys contribute! Also, to be totally honest I'm looking for like-minded players for a future special project, but that's just a side thing. The main task is to getting people talking about scout.

Alrighty, this thread is for the discussion of the *cough* most awesome *cough* dropsuit around, the scout dropsuit. The purpose is to nail down stats, loadouts, and tactics available and discuss bugs or stat errors. Please be constructive, thoughtful, and precise with your feedback and contributions, when possible get exact stats as well. Okay let's get this going.

Also, don't forget to like this post cause this was a lot of work, thanks!

The Stats

These links will take you to the google document pictures of the tables I have made regarding each weapon, equipment, dropsuit, or module. These tables are based on the tooltips found in game so they may have discrepancies from their in game stats (if you find them let me know). But these tables also contain other stats that I included myself, like weapon DPS, damage per clip, comparison between base stats and maxed SP stats, etc. I hope you enjoy them, and feel free to leave comments in the picture's comment section.

***If the images are too small for you right click and select "Open Image in New Tab".***
Weapons

• Assault Rifles
• Sniper Rifles
• Shotguns
• Submachine Guns
• Scrambler Pistols
• Swarm Launchers
• Mass Drivers
• AV Grenades
• Locus Grenades

Equipment

• Nanohives
• Drop Uplinks
• Nanite Injectors
• Repair Tools
• Remote Explosives

Dropsuits

• Scout Dropsuit

Modules

• Armor Plates

nice to see the thread is back up


I was reading the reason to engage a heavy tactic an wanted to add some stuff. Heavys have been getting alot easier to take out with an smg, an from wat i can tell scouts are the best for taking out heavys. Usually when i see a heavy i make sure to take out any scouts or assaults first just like garrett said. Then after its just me an him i start running rite at him to close the distance quick cause once ur in close u move way faster then him an its easy to do circles around him try switching up ur rotation to confuse him.


Jumping also works good for heavys i usually try jumping over them then start circling them. An just know ur shield recharges way faster then his so if he manages to drop ur shields find cover quick but once its back attack him again fast. The main thing is to be really aggressive against a heavy if u try to keep ur distance an hide he well probably pick u off. So pretty much get in close an use ur speed an stamina to take them down. Other then that grenades or RE are the best for taking out heavys

I second that bumb SoCal.

I don't know about you, but since Dust came out I have not touched DCUO at all!

Good job on the scout suit, its looking like a great thread my friend. Keep up the good work.

Just stopping by to drop a like and say that I will continue to contribute to this guide.

I'm currently working on what I think will be the first fitting completely based around using the nova knife as a primary weapon. I should have all the necessary skills completed by the end of the upcoming weekend so that I can test it. I'll be sure to post it here immediately if it works out as planned.

On a related note, does anyone know if the knife is effected by the damage buffs from the Weaponry skill? That extra 15% damage could make a huge difference on a fully stacked knife.

EDIT: A difference of around 50 damage if my damage calculations applied the buffs correctly. About 550 HP without the 15% from Weaponry, around 600 HP with the 15%. That is using Knife Handling lv.5, 3 Complex Myofibril Stimulants (stacking penalties included), and Weaponry lv.5.

I wonder how you fight forge gun users. even the splash damage can one shot you.

V. Heavies

Heavies are awkwardly positioned right now because of the heavy nerfing that took place on the HMG and the Swarm Launcher (I'm in the open lol).

mass drivers

I personally love the Mass Driver. While not particularly effective in a 1v1. I find that it works well if you stay out of the direct fight and let your team mates tank/apply damage while you rip through shields and kill strafers. Also its a great ambush/guerrilla weapon I have found myself in fight where my teammates were getting out strafed by an assault/scout with little health left I fire one round from a MD and boom no more strafe scout.

Low ammo count : Nanohives help with that if you can get/ stay out of the direct fight.
Short range : MD have a rather short range being grenade launchers, so hide around corners, ambush, RUN (prolly the most important). Use the terrain to your advantage, hills, low spots, obstacles and such are your best friend.

I use the basic MD and have put no SP into skills for it and still find it very effective if used correctly.

I would love to see a squad of 2-4 people with Scout MD's. Used as a QRF (quick response force) I think
they could be very effective at taking or retaking objectives.

I will post my fit when I get a chance (I'm at work atm). Also this is an excellent thread.

I just wanted to say 'THANK YOU SoCal_Ninja!' for the awesome post. This info is a tremendous help. I hope CCP gives you some creds.

I've been running scout for about a month now, here's my build

Purpose: Low cost Anti-Material

How to play: Avoid direct confrontation with infantry. When in doubt, sprint for cover. This build is designed to get you into position as quickly as possible to deal with enemy vehicles, or quickly take objectives or installations when you catch the enemy out of position. It's all about speed, avoidance, and being a constant irritant, while maintaining an overall low ISK overhead.

Cost: 11,850 ISK

CPU/PG: 144/28 (obviously dependant on what CPU reducing skills you've trained)

Dropsuit: Type-I

Light Weapon: CBR7 Swarm Launcher

Sidearm Weapon: SK9M Breach Submachine Gun

Grenades: NONE

Equipment Slot 1: Militia Nanohive

High-Power Module 1: Basic Shield Recharger

Low-Power Module 1: Militia CPU Upgrade

Low-Power Module 2: Militia Cardiac Stimulant

I'm actually impressed by the scout abilities the more I play as one. Scouts have a huge advantage over heavies more often then not and I'm only using BPO's on my loadout -- at the moment anyway.

I wanted to ask though if anyone else was having a problem in-game with the shotgun, by which I am concerned that the game itself is not registering hits. I'm also noticing that when I fire my shotgun whether due to the auto-aim, frame rate or a combination of the two that sometimes it feels like the game shoots just to the side of where I was aiming. It's weird really.

I am impressed though with the shotgun. More surprised by the extremely low ISK prices on the market for even the proto-types. Same goes for the SMGs too.

Ah. So when I am able to slow my rate of fire that will actually help with reducing the latency? That is good to know, but CCP needs to fix the issue itself. Increasing the frame rate may actually help with this as well fixing the other issues as well.

Thanks, SoCal.

Just posted the Quicker Knifing by SoCal_Ninja tactic on the thread about the way to quick knife by alternating L3 and R3

Is the Type-II scout suit worth it?

Is the Type-II scout suit worth it?

Well I have a number of passive skills I have dumped my skill points into too. Overall I'm happy with the Type-II, even if it is only marginally better then my Dragonfly armor. It has a combined thirty more points between shields and armor over Dragonfly which while meek can and has made a difference. The loss of the secondary module is of little concern to me as I am using a shotgun at the moment (or I could be a douche bag and use my proto-type AR.) As for the power grid and CPU again only marginally better then my Dragonfly, but when allocated with the loss of the secondary module I was able to equip a nonohive to this loadout, and with the shotguns more limited maximum ammo capacity can be both beneficial for myself, and my team. A win-win if you will. My shields are limited, but I managed to increase them to ninety-two, or ninety-seven (cannot remember right off the bat.) Still I am pleased with the suit. Unfortunetly I am less pleased with the statistics to the advanced variation of the scout suit. So I will be in no real hurry to spec up to proto as I'd rather pour more skill points into other passive skills.

My current load out:

Drop Suit: Scout Type-II
Ligh Weapon: Shotgun
Grenade: AV-grenade
Support Module: Nanohive
Militia Shield Extender
Militia Plate Armor
Militia Shield Repair


Could be better, but could be worse, and has proven to formidable.


Also I'm sorry I shot you in the back just a short while ago on that ambush game. You were outside the perimitter and begging to be shot. Also the lead guy on your team was a quick-scope jerkoff. Made me Brooklyn Rage!!!!

But it's blunt smkr that's kicking my butt. I keep loosing to his very shiny prototype scout suit and boundless breach SMG. It makes me sad. Good to meet all these awesome scouts though. *cough* join my corp *cough*

lol i'm pretty sure u got me a few times too but it was some good matches though. also i'm already in a corp but we can still group up for a full scout group whenever. oh an i dont think u saw my really fancy scout dropsuit the one that cost AUR is red an black which looks so sick i just dont use it as much. unless i really feel like doing damage cause i got more damage mods on that setup

The primary loadout i use to handle most situations

Purpose: Sniper/ CQC

Cost: around 60k isk

Dropsuit: Scout v.k0

Light Weapon: Ishukone Sniper Rifle

Sidearm Weapon: M209 Assault Sub Machine Gun

Grenade: Locus Grenade

Equipment Slot 1: Quantum Nano Hive

Equipment Slot 2: Remote Explosives

High-Powered Module 1: Complex Shield Extender

High-Powered Module 2: Basic Shield Extender

High-Powered Module 3: Basic Shield Extender

Low-Powered Module 1: Basic Armor Repairer

Low-Powered Module 2: Basic CPU Upgrade

Low-Powered Module 3: Basic CPU Upgrade

Basically awesome for any anti-infantry situation and can play a limited anti-vehicle role.



-ZionTCD

If i can make a suggestion. Why not double slot your complex shield extender in all slots? You can stack the same item into multiple slots. It will all take out of the same reserve, but if you're doing well with this build, you shouldn't be dying enough for it to make an impact. Just a suggestion. Great work though!

Armor plates reduce your movement, and sprint speed by a percentage depending the grade of the plate. Militia plates I believe reduce your speed by three percent (if I remember.) While the highest grade will reduce your speeds by ten to fifteen percent. Somewhere around there. I wish I could log on to Dust. I'd tell you the exact amount.

oh milita aint bad but i would probably want highest grade an if it lowers me to assault dropsuit speed not sure if its worth it. cause my plan is to add complex cpu mod so i can drop one cause i got 2 militia ones rite now. then add armor plates an maybe drop armor repair cause i just got the nanohives that repairs armor an replace it with something, not sure yet though. to bad they didnt have a mod for movment speed cause idk really care bout sprint speed

They have modules for stamina, vigor, and movement speed as well even knives.

Hello Gentlemen!

I recently finished a pretty in-depth review of LAVs in the feedback forum. If you wouldn't mind taking a look at it and dropping your two cents, it would be appreciated. The LAV is really the Scout's vehicle of choice. Do our class a favor and make sure it gets the attention that it needs from the developers!

Damn forum won't let me post the link so I leave it to you gentlemen to find it.

Stay Frosty.

-=Norbar=-

I think in the case of Dust this is one case where it's hard to decide whether they should adopt the Counter Strike knife, or be more like it is now in line with Call of Duty. However, I would say it should be more treated either like Counter Strike or more like Battlefield3.

Personally I believe that knives always prove to be a hard topic for developers. They can quickly grow to be over powering and over used, or under powered and useless like it is now. It really is hard to say.

They need to go the Killzone route. Make it an equipable item. Keep it how it is now, but maybe fix the registry a tad. Then add a slightly longer swing time as well. Then make it so if you choose so you can pull out exclusively the knife for quick jabs if you are sneaking up on someone.

Maybe, but KILLZONE3 screwed it up, and over dramatized the whole experience. If that is the case just make it more or less like either Counter Strike or Battlefield3 then.

Edit:

I think it would be cool to do away with the knife almost and give us stock butting! Weapon flogging, and pistol whipping!

Edit+:

You know what? Screw it! I want my super beefy Power Armor and chain swords! Give me WARHAMMER40K!!!

Sorry guys, haven't been around to bump the thread or add the new loadouts, but I'm doing it now.

As for the questions about Armor Plates and Kinetic Catalysts you could check my stat guides on them in the front of the thread :D

Standard is -3% to movement
Advanced is -5% to movement
Prototype is -10% to movement

It's actually better to have 3 standard Armor plates than 1 complex one because it will net you more armor for less PG and Speed reduction. But it takes up all three slots. Having a complex armor plate would lower you to 5 m/s movement and 7 m/s sprint. But if you throw 2 complex kinetic catalysts to balance it out you could max your speed at 8.7 sprint. It would take a huge chuck out of your PG though... don't even know if it's possible. Before weapons or equipment or shields you'd have 41 PG on the suit with a max of 75 fully upgraded. All so you could run at 8.7 with 230 armor and 117 shielding. I don't think scouts should be armor tanking. Maybe if you wanted to take the hit to movement, but it almost turns you into an assault with 2x shielding. I'm curious if this build works for you. My personal tastes make me never sacrifice speed, but dust is for the experimenters so have at it!

Sorry guys, haven't been around to bump the thread or add the new loadouts, but I'm doing it now.

As for the questions about Armor Plates and Kinetic Catalysts you could check my stat guides on them in the front of the thread :D

Standard is -3% to movement
Advanced is -5% to movement
Prototype is -10% to movement

It's actually better to have 3 standard Armor plates than 1 complex one because it will net you more armor for less PG and Speed reduction. But it takes up all three slots. Having a complex armor plate would lower you to 5 m/s movement and 7 m/s sprint. But if you throw 2 complex kinetic catalysts to balance it out you could max your speed at 8.7 sprint. It would take a huge chuck out of your PG though... don't even know if it's possible. Before weapons or equipment or shields you'd have 41 PG on the suit with a max of 75 fully upgraded. All so you could run at 8.7 with 230 armor and 117 shielding. I don't think scouts should be armor tanking. Maybe if you wanted to take the hit to movement, but it almost turns you into an assault with 2x shielding. I'm curious if this build works for you. My personal tastes make me never sacrifice speed, but dust is for the experimenters so have at it!

this sounds like a bad scout build,doesn't optaminze the scouts strengths, i cant see anyone doing this honestly. 230 armor and 117 shielding is practically nothing when you still killed by everything in afew hits.

Haha, see now I actually don't want people to write this post off as just chest-beating because carlos has a point. The way carlos plays is very anti-scout. He is very good and leading scouts into the open and keeping distance between him and the attacking scout. He baits his enemies around corners, and will run from a fight to get a better position. Carlos is a skilled assault player and the best way to really deal with his tactics of baiting are to run the opposite way and try to disappear for a flanking strike.

.........

You give up 12 PG, 30 shields, a sidearm, and some speed, but gain 11 CPU, 45 armor, and an extra equipment slot. (Note... losing more PG than CPU gained seems wrong to me, could someone double check that stat. I feel like we may have found another stat error, that number should be about 3-4 to be balanced agains 11 CPU.)

now as far as survivability goes, I value the shields and speed more than the armor and equipment. But if you want utility, a scout can gain a huge benefit from that extra equipment slot. In my opinion, you just loose too much to not justify the gain, but I wouldn't mind having a class or two with this suit just incase you needed uplinks and nanohives, or some other combination for group support. I could see Type-II becoming the best low tier healer dropsuit. MD or AR, Nanohives, Nano Injectors, and some HP boosters would make you quite an asset to the team.

I wouldn't say it is under-powered, just bugged. If every hit that I got with the knife registered, it would have been an incredible killing weapon. Outside of unintentional hindrances, I think the knife should stay exactly how it is. Although, it probably wouldn't hurt to increase the Complex Myofibril Stimulant to a 75% bonus, so that fewer modules are needed for an OHK.

Exactly, you get far greater return from shield stacking or sprint speed or both.

I have a question about your DPS stats.

Prior to this, I had done charts for most of the weapons myself, and while most all of the data matched up, DPS seemed off to me.

Take the Ishukone Assault smg for example. You place it at 243.2 minimum. Yet I find it at 282.9? So then I tried seeing if you weren't adding in base weapons of %5 and smg op of %25 and just used the true base damage, but then I came out to 217.6.

I found other weapons to be off in dps as well. Are we just using different algorithms? Do skill multipliers work differently than I had previously thought?

Here's mine.

Base damage multiplied by any skill multipliers to find damage per hit increase.
Add to base damage.

ROF divided by 60 to find the number of rounds fired in a second.
Multiply that by the accuracy to see how many hit.
Then multiply that by the damage to see the DPS.

Example:

X~~ = number is repeating

Base skill multipliers:

Weapons 1 for %5
Smg op for %25

Total: %30 multiplier

24*.3=7.2
24+7.2=31.2

1052.6/60=17.543~~
17.543~~*.517=9.069903~~
9.069903~~*31.2=282.980984

282.9 DPS.

Other than that, awesome thread, tons of useful stats. +1

10.36 m/s fastest a scout can go. i love it, and when the reset comes i'll feel like a turtle..

alright, later today, I'm going to start discussion for how to win ambush.

Have a tank on a hill (Pokey Dravon's)
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SoCal Ninja's scout suit with shotgun

that match was horrible for me.. lol

Naming conventions for Communications

Working on making some good looking maps. This one is for designating names for sections of the map. This is one of the services I will be providing from my corp btw...

very nice +1

its going to make talking bout strategies alot easier

oh an the trench in the comm map is so pointless its a death trap usually lol just thought i point that out

was thinking of calling it death trap but didn't want it to be confused with death alley lol

where is the 3 low sprint speed suit fitting post?

also does the advanced scout suit only have one more high slot? that's it?

where is the 3 low sprint speed suit fitting post?

Really? I could have sworn I don't do well against your SMG.

yup a bunch of new ones with a prototype isk one that heals two people at once, as well as electronics upgrades is back so you can get the complex CPU modules

Hey all,

Just wanted to say thanks for this thread - having a bit of trouble finding the fun in this game at the mo so hopefully the info here will put me on the right track!

cheers :)

Well I agree about the armor, and I have thought of dumping it for something else infact. For what? I am unsure to be honest. Maybe more armor regeneration?

So i'm curious, has anyone noticed a disconnect between shotgun firing animation and the true rate of fire. Sometimes it seems like I'm able to fire off a shot before the animation is ready. I have to do more testing, but i was just curious.

Alright. I studied a number of the given charts, and stats (attributes) given to us by, SoCal. Big thanks (again.) Here is a proto-suit layout (fitting) that should help anyone in most given situations.

Dropsuit:

Scout v.K0

Weapons:

Swarm Launcher

Boundless Breach SMG

Locus Grenades

Equipment:

Nanohive

Modules:

Militia Shield Extender

Militia Shield Extender

Militia Shield Extender

Militia Armor Repair

Militia Armor Repair

Militia Armor Repair

No, armor plates in this build. The swarm launcher obvious, and you have room to work with if you really want to upgrade it to a better model, but stat wise the swarm launchers only differe by missiles per pod, and the maximum damage output allowed. I also fitted this with militia models to cut down costs, but again if you want you can upgrade to what you want. The SMG of course is your overall primary weapon, and with equiped infantry grenades this should help you out a lot more. I will eventually get to this build myself, and this only going off what information I could gather on the charts provided. Still if anyone wants to you can build this, and tell me how it actually performs in practice. You should notice a high rate of success due to increased shields, and base armor, but considering the stacked shield extenders, and repair combined with skills hopefully this helps you more.

Went on the US server to try and find SoCal. Found him and am still picking lead shot out my scouts ass.

Credit where its due man your the only scout I have ever had a really hard time with.
Wish you wernt on the US servers cos your better than me and I need to fight you more.

I would be curious to see your skill set at this point in running your pro to suit.

I do have to say that you guys have put a crap load of work into the charts. Mind If I tap into the info for Assault and Heavy Suits?

Sha speaks very highly of you Socal, nice work. I look forward to being in the field with ya.

Alright. I studied a number of the given charts, and stats (attributes) given to us by, SoCal. Big thanks (again.) Here is a proto-suit layout (fitting) that should help anyone in most given situations.

Dropsuit:

Scout v.K0

Weapons:

Swarm Launcher

Boundless Breach SMG

Locus Grenades

Equipment:

Nanohive

Modules:

Militia Shield Extender

Militia Shield Extender

Militia Shield Extender

Militia Armor Repair

Militia Armor Repair

Militia Armor Repair

No, armor plates in this build. The swarm launcher obvious, and you have room to work with if you really want to upgrade it to a better model, but stat wise the swarm launchers only differe by missiles per pod, and the maximum damage output allowed. I also fitted this with militia models to cut down costs, but again if you want you can upgrade to what you want. The SMG of course is your overall primary weapon, and with equiped infantry grenades this should help you out a lot more. I will eventually get to this build myself, and this only going off what information I could gather on the charts provided. Still if anyone wants to you can build this, and tell me how it actually performs in practice. You should notice a high rate of success due to increased shields, and base armor, but considering the stacked shield extenders, and repair combined with skills hopefully this helps you more.

I pretty much run EVERY Scout fitting I create with a Stamina recovery module. It doesn't give me actual infinite stamina, but it's not far off.

And they've specifically stated that in the next build (which is next month, and according to at least one dev post this weekend, EARLY next month) there will be an 8-second delay before you can suicide, and when you're down, you'll be able to see the location of any nearby friendlies who are equipped with Nano-Injectors. Also, anyone with a Nano Injector will be given a HUD marker to show the location of downed teammates. I don't (personally) think the Nano Injector is the best option for a Scout though, since you have to choose between that and the Repair Tool. If it's one or the other, I'd prefer to KEEP someone alive rather than just reviving them when they go down, particularly when the Nano Injector has an ammo limit and the Repair Tool doesn't.

Really? How? Because, I have one on my loadout and I can only seem to apply it to other allies.

haha, yeah i've been practicing with shotgun a ton. I've learned that it's all about being the initiator of the fight. You get one clean full blast creodron shotgun round off and people dont usually stand a chance after. Also, It really helps to aim down the sight for your first shot. I use to exclusively fire from the hip because you move fastest that way, but the aim really improves the shotguns damage and likelyhood of hitting its target, especially since hit detection is a fickle beast in this game.

Glad I could play with you though. Generally I play US Communication Ambush, because shotguns are absolutely no good in Plateau, too long ranged. I'm starting to mess around in EU Plateau Ambush though, just cause a lot of betamax people are adopting that server, and I enjoy playing with them.

1. Be damaged.
2. Be away from allies.
3. Hold R1.

It sometimes takes a while to kick in, and I've only ever done it with VERY low armour (less than 50%) so it might not work if you're only scratched.

That sounds more like someone (an ally) came up and started healing you. I could be wrong, and I'll give it a try, but I still do not think the repair gun/tool will allow you to heal yourself. I'll try to get on today though and try this.

Alright. I did get some time on this evening actually. I had two horrible matches out of the three I was able to get in before getting off. However I wanted to say thank you to, Garrett Blacknova. It is true that you can actually heal yourself with the repair gun/tool. So thank you for heads up and insight. Proved very useful. I also tweeked around with another build one you all may want to try out and play around with. Not just a mockup, and one most can obtain early on with probably around four million and less skill points seeing how I have about seven and a half million skill points now (I know not many skill points considering the build right?) So anyway I hope you all enjoy this build and I garuntee it will be more useful still in the coming august build.

Personally I love the name, and acronym.

Name: Emergency Medical Scout (The E.M.S.)

Dropsuit:

Scout Type-II

Weapons:

Shotgun

Equipment:

Repair Gun/Tool

Nanite-Injectors

Modules:

Shield Extender

Armor Plates

Armor Repair

I left out the grade to the equipment. However I find even with maximized CPU (Central Processing Unit) and PG (Power Grid) output that at most you can only go so far due to the limitations of the Type-II. However you can go above the militia grade equipment as usually it means the purcahses basic equipment is just slightly better, but requires less CPU and PG then their militia grade brothers. You can also swap the plates for two of the three cardio stimuli. The "red" one will not fit unless you also ditch the armor repair unfortunetly, but of course the more skill points you invest the less CPU overall the equipment will use. This is just the earliest build you can achieve for the proper E.M.S. -- all depending of course.

Scout's are already the naturally fastest infantry units moving on the battlefield. The only thing faster is another scout pending on situations of course.

Not true, an assault needs only 1 complex kinetic catalyst in order to be on par with a scout while sprinting.

I've been working on a new setup cause smgs are getting boring. So i decided to try out the Scrambler Pistol here is the setup i have so far with just a pistol



Name: Pistol Whiped
Dropsuit: Scout A-series
Light Weapon: None
Sidearm Weapon: Carthum Assault Scrambler Pistol
Grenades: Core Locus Grenade
Equipment Slot 1: Quantum Nanohives
High-Power Module 1: Complex Sidearm mod
High-Power Module 2: Complex Shield Extender
Low-Power Module 1: Basic Armor Repair
Low-Power Module 2: Complex CPU mod

With this setup its all about accuracy cause a good headshot can 1-2 shot someone. When ur in a 1v1 situation take ur time an make sure ur shots count an keep moving around. then when ur fighten more then one guy at a time u need to take them out fast so drop a full clip into a guy quick as u can if ur good aim his died in a sec then move on to the next one. use grenades too there really important with this setup cause they help out alot against heavys. Also the range of the pistol is really good, you can easily snipe people at good distances if u aim down the sight

An this setup is for people that like a challenge an are accurate with a gun

It only takes one militia kinetic catalyst for the scout to out sprint an assualt with one complex kinetic catalyst attached as well.

Again. Depending. Also you took a qoute and still fumbled here, SoCal. As I said pointed out even in this line -- "naturally" -- meaning that the scout is the fastests. You cannot yet increase base speed, and even if you wanted to used modules, and skills the scout will win. Let me prove this using what you said here.

It only takes one complex kinetic catalyst for the scout to out sprint an assualt with one complex kinetic catalyst attached as well.

Point is the scout is the fastest infantry unit "naturally". I even stated situations "pending" because, of the simple fact that everyone plays a little differently. You may run into someone who has more skills invested in their characters base stats, or has different modules equiped to out manuver you.

Case in point the argument here is not necessary.

Well I'm sorry if I implied in some way, or made you feel that I felt that scouts were untouchable. I know they are not. So I apologise for that confusion, but I was going by the numbers. However another thing to point out is the player variable. As for the whole specialization, or jack-of-all trades player? You prefer to be a specialized player. A lot of people tend to follow suit. However when it comes to me? I'd rather be a jack of all trades, and allow my own skill as a player to fill the gaps in between. Which allows me as a player to fill many roles as the situations arises. This is just who I am though, and it works for me; just as being a specialized player suits you. At the end of the end of the day it comes down to the player (you) to find out what works for you. Which is not a bad thing. Why? Because, it allows for a morehesive team experience when grouping. You are specialized, but the team also needs players like myself. Players whom can fill an even more niche' role then specialized players.

Take of it what you will.

I just felt the argument was uneccessary simply because, I do not like to argue. I find it pointless and only seems to cause more problems. Plus I have to constantly defend myself everyday and it wears you thin.

What I am in real need of is the ability to set primary, secondary, and support. Seriously starting out with the swarm launcher at times will get you killed. Atleast right now due to the latency issues in the controls.

After all your module work, you actually become a base assault suit with +7% base movement, and -30 shielding, and x2 shield recharge.

That sounds like it's a well-done hybrid build with an emphasis on shield tanking.

I don't see that as a negative. In fact, in the right hands, it sounds like a rather deadly setup to me.

You're saying it wouldn't work for you, and I think I'd probably struggle more than with my own builds, but that's because we have our own playstyles. Don't knock something because it's not your style.

A heavy tanking Scout would be a nasty surprise when the target expects you to be squishy, and doesn't that deception play to the Scout's strengths too?

Huh? Where has everyone been? Starting to feel lonely as scout.