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SoCal Ninja
260
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Posted - 2012.07.09 02:38:00 -
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Post your loadout ReGnUm, I'm always curious what the "strongest scout" is wearing. ;) |
ReGnUm DEl
Doomheim
622
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Posted - 2012.07.09 02:42:00 -
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SoCal Ninja wrote:Post your loadout ReGnUm, I'm always curious what the "strongest scout" is wearing. ;)
YUM YUM YUM that bait looks so delicious, alas fair ninja I can not yet reveal my trade secrets |
Mordu's Spy
Doomheim
40
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Posted - 2012.07.09 02:49:00 -
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ReGnUm DEl wrote:SoCal Ninja wrote:Post your loadout ReGnUm, I'm always curious what the "strongest scout" is wearing. ;) YUM YUM YUM that bait looks so delicious, alas fair ninja I can not yet reveal my trade secrets
Lame, Rolyat gave his current interceptor fit
it's a beta, these fits aren't going to be final in anyway.
and Socal Ninja gives cred to who made it. |
Blunt Smkr
Doomheim
62
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Posted - 2012.07.09 03:11:00 -
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i consider myself to be a pretty good scout not the best but idk. here is my main loadout
Dropsuit: Scout v.k0 Light Weapon: None Sidearm Weapon: Boundless Breach Submachine Gun Grenades: Locus Grenades Equipment Slot 1:None Equipment Slot 2:None High-Power Module 1:Complex Shield Extender High-Power Module 2:Complex Shield Extender High-Power Module 3:Complex Sidearm Damage Mod Low-Power Module 1: Militia Armor Repair Low-Power Module 2: Militia CPU Upgrade Low-Power Module 3: Militia CPU Upgrade
this setup is not fully finished yet still changing things but its my fav so far
i mainly chase down the enemy with this setup an take objectives as best as i can. the really only weakness this setup has is people using proto breach ar an vehicles but other then that its a really good setup for just killin some enemys. always use lots of cover an try to close the distance between u in the enemy as fast as u can once ur in close its over for them as long as ur good a strafing back an fourth
i have a few other setups for straight dps an anti vehicles that i might post later but dont really use them rite now |
SoCal Ninja
260
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Posted - 2012.07.09 03:15:00 -
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This is a beta, the point is to take a good hard look at stats and configurations. While typing out those stat tables I've run into a couple of numbers that seemed off, and we need to explore it to find out what is broken and needs fixing. Let go of your pride a for a bit and realize that this is a testing zone for players to provide feedback on the game.
I don't mind telling my strategies and my loadouts, why? because I made them. I know them better than anyone else, which means I also know how to beat them. Go read my tactic for attacking skirmish on plateau, in it I describe my strategy, and then describe how you would beat it. I tell you where I lay uplinks and my routes, but I'm aware to my weaknesses and know how to change my tactic on the fly.
The only way be on the cutting edge of tactics in a game like this is to learn how to adapt to the people who figured out your last strategy. Otherwise you get stale. |
SoCal Ninja
260
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Posted - 2012.07.09 03:22:00 -
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Blunt Smkr wrote:i consider myself to be a pretty good scout not the best but idk. here is my main loadout
Dropsuit: Scout v.k0 Light Weapon: None Sidearm Weapon: Boundless Breach Submachine Gun Grenades: Locus Grenades Equipment Slot 1:None Equipment Slot 2:None High-Power Module 1:Complex Shield Extender High-Power Module 2:Complex Shield Extender High-Power Module 3:Complex Sidearm Damage Mod Low-Power Module 1: Militia Armor Repair Low-Power Module 2: Militia CPU Upgrade Low-Power Module 3: Militia CPU Upgrade
this setup is not fully finished yet still changing things but its my fav so far
i mainly chase down the enemy with this setup an take objectives as best as i can. the really only weakness this setup has is people using proto breach ar an vehicles but other then that its a really good setup for just killin some enemys. always use lots of cover an try to close the distance between u in the enemy as fast as u can once ur in close its over for them as long as ur good a strafing back an fourth
i have a few other setups for straight dps an anti vehicles that i might post later but dont really use them rite now
Thanks Blunt Smkr for your contribution(didn't think I'd say that sentence ever),
I'm gonna be putting this loadout in under the name "Run and Gun". Seems like a great SMG-focused class. I could see this being not so fun to get into CQC against. I'd love to give this one a try myself.
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Norbar Recturus
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
119
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Posted - 2012.07.09 04:32:00 -
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Dropsuit: Scout Dragonfly (Whatever it's called)
Light Weapon: Charged Sniper Rifle Sidearm Weapon: Assault Submachine Gun Grenades: Fused Locus Grenades
Equipment Slot 1:Quantum Nano-hive
High-Power Module 1:Complex Shield Extender High-Power Module 2:Complex Shield Extender
Low-Power Module 1: Kinetic Stabilizer Low-Power Module 2: Kinetic Stabilizer
Purpose: I often find that games are coming to stand-stills with either side being pushed back to it's Spawn by some a-hole in a Sargaris tank, so I made this build to take advantage of the Scout's ability to really get out into the rearguard of an opposing force. Eventually, you can take the infantry support away from the vehicles to let your team abate the cramp. From the scope, this also gives your allies a good view of what's going on in the areas at they can't see.
Strategy: Pick somewhere that you'll have a decent vantage of the battlefield flank or rear and take a low position (IE: unelevated). I understand that this may be contrary to most conventional sniping wisdom, but we're taking advantage of player psychology here (I'll hide behind the Tank's firepower). Make sure that you're not within standard RoV from spawn points otherwise you'll regret all that hard work getting past the fire line as a chevron points enemy players right to your location. You can place nanohives around corners to make sure you have a mostly infinite supply of bullets at the risk of exposing your position to the enemy (they're highly visible at range). Your kill order is almost always going to be Heavy suits followed by assaults because they're the most likely to be holding still (and easiest to line a headshot up on).
Thoughts: I haven't started to purchase "actual" scout suits because I find that Protoplayers just rip the suits to shreds with the Creodrone Breach rifle. Until the range on the AR is brought in line, I don't think I'll be upgrading myself into a "real suit" just quite yet... but when I do, you can bet your behind that I'll add in a Drop Uplink of some kind to enable the flexibility of rear deployment.
The one hard-core issue with this layout is dropships on the towers. If a single enemy manages to see you and paint a Chev on your face, you'll be spammed with rockets until you die.
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Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.07.09 04:34:00 -
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Hey So_Cal, remember me from MAG? I was KatuXiK, I think we were in BYP together |
ReGnUm DEl
Doomheim
622
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Posted - 2012.07.09 04:50:00 -
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SoCal Ninja wrote:This is a beta, the point is to take a good hard look at stats and configurations. While typing out those stat tables I've run into a couple of numbers that seemed off, and we need to explore it to find out what is broken and needs fixing. Let go of your pride a for a bit and realize that this is a testing zone for players to provide feedback on the game.
I don't mind telling my strategies and my loadouts, why? because I made them. I know them better than anyone else, which means I also know how to beat them. Go read my tactic for attacking skirmish on plateau, in it I describe my strategy, and then describe how you would beat it. I tell you where I lay uplinks and my routes, but I'm aware to my weaknesses and know how to change my tactic on the fly.
The only way be on the cutting edge of tactics in a game like this is to learn how to adapt to the people who figured out your last strategy. Otherwise you get stale.
lol |
SoCal Ninja
260
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Posted - 2012.07.09 04:57:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Hey So_Cal, remember me from MAG? I was KatuXiK, I think we were in BYP together
Considering I don't know what BYP stands for I probably wasn't apart of that clan, or if I was I don't remember it. I was in MAG though, I think I bounced around through a couple clans, including 3C and V-C. But i left the game pretty quickly and went to DCUO. So far it's been disappointment after disappointment, so I'm really counting on dust to break my streak lol.
If you do really remember me, I feel bad haha.
Okay, drafting up the two loadouts now you guys posted now. |
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RolyatDerTeufel
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
1648
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Posted - 2012.07.09 05:06:00 -
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SoCal Ninja wrote:Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Hey So_Cal, remember me from MAG? I was KatuXiK, I think we were in BYP together Considering I don't know what BYP stands for I probably wasn't apart of that clan, or if I was I don't remember it. I was in MAG though, I think I bounced around through a couple clans, including 3C and V-C. But i left the game pretty quickly and went to DCUO. So far it's been disappointment after disappointment, so I'm really counting on dust to break my streak lol. If you do really remember me, I feel bad haha. Okay, drafting up the two loadouts now you guys posted now.
Quick question, who do you play on running with for Dust?
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SoCal Ninja
260
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Posted - 2012.07.09 05:32:00 -
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RolyatDerTeufel wrote:SoCal Ninja wrote:Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Hey So_Cal, remember me from MAG? I was KatuXiK, I think we were in BYP together Considering I don't know what BYP stands for I probably wasn't apart of that clan, or if I was I don't remember it. I was in MAG though, I think I bounced around through a couple clans, including 3C and V-C. But i left the game pretty quickly and went to DCUO. So far it's been disappointment after disappointment, so I'm really counting on dust to break my streak lol. If you do really remember me, I feel bad haha. Okay, drafting up the two loadouts now you guys posted now. Quick question, who do you play on running with for Dust?
I'm drafting a small squad of exceptional scouts to be used in dust as special ops for larger clans. I'm focusing my efforts on creating the tightest group of 6-10 guys for advanced team strategies, and hiring myself out to Dust corps. Also, I will be selling my strategies and council to clans. Basically you can think of me as a consultant :) |
RolyatDerTeufel
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
1648
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Posted - 2012.07.09 05:35:00 -
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SoCal Ninja wrote:I'm drafting a small squad of exceptional scouts to be used in dust as special ops for larger clans. I'm focusing my efforts on creating the tightest group of 6-10 guys for advanced team strategies, and hiring myself out to Dust corps. Also, I will be selling my strategies and council to clans. Basically you can think of me as a consultant :)
Well I'm sure me and Kushmir will both have you on contact for a possible chats in the future.
If you use my fit, use it well |
SoCal Ninja
260
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Posted - 2012.07.09 05:57:00 -
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Newly Posted loadouts :)
Rearguard Charged Sniper Loadout by Norbar Recturus
SMG Run and Gun by Blunt Smkr
also, I 'like' every post that contains a loadout from you guys... small thing i know, but I just thought I'd mention it.
All in all, I'm super excited that this thread is going well. If you guys have any suggestions for things I could change go ahead and post them :) |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
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Posted - 2012.07.09 07:45:00 -
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Hm. I may pick up the scout come release (I luv my "Dragonfly"), and I just wanted to do a shout out! Good playin' with ya' tonight. We should have won though. T'was a lame loss.
Personally I just want to see more factional armor. So far I chose Gallente because, it felt right (ya' know), and I love their armor designs just in the scout suit alone. I'm not a fan of the Caldari gear. It's effecient? Yes, but fugly not intimadating at all, and as the description says uncomfortable.
I needs mah Gallente! |
Gilbatron
Free-Space-Ranger Nulli Secunda
81
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Posted - 2012.07.09 08:33:00 -
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any chance i can get the raw data for the tables ? |
SoCal Ninja
260
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Posted - 2012.07.09 08:47:00 -
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Gilbatron wrote:any chance i can get the raw data for the tables ?
hmmm let me see what I can do. I work on a Mac so my spreadsheet is in the .numbers type and doesn't translate well, but I'll take a look at the export options and see if I can do something about that. |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.07.09 09:18:00 -
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SoCal Ninja wrote:Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Hey So_Cal, remember me from MAG? I was KatuXiK, I think we were in BYP together Considering I don't know what BYP stands for I probably wasn't apart of that clan, or if I was I don't remember it. I was in MAG though, I think I bounced around through a couple clans, including 3C and V-C. But i left the game pretty quickly and went to DCUO. So far it's been disappointment after disappointment, so I'm really counting on dust to break my streak lol. If you do really remember me, I feel bad haha. Okay, drafting up the two loadouts now you guys posted now.
Was Bring You Pain lol. Idk, maybe it was just somebody boasting your name :P |
Gilbatron
Free-Space-Ranger Nulli Secunda
81
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Posted - 2012.07.09 11:57:00 -
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SoCal Ninja wrote:Gilbatron wrote:any chance i can get the raw data for the tables ? hmmm let me see what I can do. I work on a Mac so my spreadsheet is in the .numbers type and doesn't translate well, but I'll take a look at the export options and see if I can do something about that.
i think i can live with the mac files... |
Revelations 514
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
38
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Posted - 2012.07.09 12:54:00 -
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I run a scout with a few different loadouts. My favorite and most successful is the shotty however.
Advanced (T2) dropsuit Primary, CRG-3 shotgun Secondary, None Militia locus grenades shield extender basic shield recharger basic armor repair basic stamina recharge militia ammo nanohive
^trying to go from memory here at work, but this looks about right
works really well, just cannot ever charge someone heads up unless you are right up next to em. bunny hop is your friend lol. when engaging should focus on sprinting from cover to cover to close the distance and then come from a flanking position. Grenades help you position the enemy where you want him and cause a distraction more than kill anyone. This class is especially adept at capturing spawn points, as if they spawn into the point you are attempting to cap, they get shot in the face or back of the head, and it's automatically CQC. On the current map this works best on point A. |
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STB-stlcarlos989 EV
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
936
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Posted - 2012.07.09 13:02:00 -
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You guys forgot to mention the scout's biggest weakness... Running into Me. |
Aaron Atreides
140
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Posted - 2012.07.09 14:59:00 -
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Yo SoCal, its your buddy (deadpool5241).
Got into a few matches with you over the weekend, your little scout has nothing on my assault class
But its good to see you in game my friend. Happy Hunting!! |
SoCal Ninja
260
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Posted - 2012.07.09 15:28:00 -
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haha yeah, making this thread kinda painted a huge target on myself. I'm still in standard equipment, with an advanced shotgun, so people kinda tear me apart. Especially since I've been gone from the game a week or so to work on this guide.
It's very clear to me that Plateau is NOT a shotgun map, just about every fight ends up being mid to long range and I have to get creative to close the distance to get a kill. I'm really missing Communication and Biomass haha. |
SoCal Ninja
260
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Posted - 2012.07.09 15:36:00 -
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STB-stlcarlos989 EV wrote:You guys forgot to mention the scout's biggest weakness... Running into Me .
Haha, see now I actually don't want people to write this post off as just chest-beating because carlos has a point. The way carlos plays is very anti-scout. He is very good and leading scouts into the open and keeping distance between him and the attacking scout. He baits his enemies around corners, and will run from a fight to get a better position. Carlos is a skilled assault player and the best way to really deal with his tactics of baiting are to run the opposite way and try to disappear for a flanking strike. |
Rhadiem
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
496
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Posted - 2012.07.09 15:37:00 -
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I'm a big fan of the type II scout suit in a support anti-vehicle/logistics role
Type II Scout suit Swarm Launcher Drop Uplink Nanohides
Naturally this loadout isn't suited for running into infantry, but hanging out at the platform near C, or up on a tower or plateau with overlook to the battlefield, this setup is great for providing alternate spawn locations when camped, as well as a steady supply of swarm missiles and ammo for snipers. Essentially, it's a non-medic Logistics fit with the ability to get where you want to go quickly, as well as bug out when things get too hot.
My other favorite fit is
Scout suit (in my case the Dragonfly one)
Swarm Launcher SMG AV grenades Nanohides
This works well when you're apt to run into infantry, but also lets you camp in a place overlooking key areas with vehicle traffic.
Just yesterday I took out someone 1:1 who was in an assault suit with an AR/SMG setup by closing the distance (medium-long range) by sprinting and approaching in a curve so he couldn't get an easy bead on me, then we exchanged SMG fire, but I was able to circle around him and finish him.
Stamina reserve is always helpful in situations like this, and one of my preferred low slot items.
Also, well placed Nanohides and Drop Uplinks provide a steady stream of SP, even if the team is doing poorly. If the whole team is getting spawn camped, sprinting out of the slaughter and providing an alternative spawn location essentially guarantees the whole team will use it, and can dramatically change the tide of battle. |
SoCal Ninja
260
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Posted - 2012.07.09 15:40:00 -
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Gilbatron wrote:SoCal Ninja wrote:Gilbatron wrote:any chance i can get the raw data for the tables ? hmmm let me see what I can do. I work on a Mac so my spreadsheet is in the .numbers type and doesn't translate well, but I'll take a look at the export options and see if I can do something about that. i think i can live with the mac files...
I converted it to excel, and uploaded it here
You should be able to download it by click File>Download. I don't know if the conversion worked well but it's what I was able to do for right now. |
STB-stlcarlos989 EV
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
936
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Posted - 2012.07.09 15:47:00 -
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SoCal Ninja wrote:STB-stlcarlos989 EV wrote:You guys forgot to mention the scout's biggest weakness... Running into Me . Haha, see now I actually don't want people to write this post off as just chest-beating because carlos has a point. The way carlos plays is very anti-scout. He is very good and leading scouts into the open and keeping distance between him and the attacking scout. He baits his enemies around corners, and will run from a fight to get a better position. Carlos is a skilled assault player and the best way to really deal with his tactics of baiting are to run the opposite way and try to disappear for a flanking strike.
Lol good advice, all scouts challenge accepted |
Gilbatron
Free-Space-Ranger Nulli Secunda
81
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Posted - 2012.07.10 07:44:00 -
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SoCal Ninja wrote:Gilbatron wrote:SoCal Ninja wrote:Gilbatron wrote:any chance i can get the raw data for the tables ? hmmm let me see what I can do. I work on a Mac so my spreadsheet is in the .numbers type and doesn't translate well, but I'll take a look at the export options and see if I can do something about that. i think i can live with the mac files... I converted it to excel, and uploaded it hereYou should be able to download it by click File>Download. I don't know if the conversion worked well but it's what I was able to do for right now.
that link only loads a white page :(
do you mind sharing the google doc with me ? [email protected] |
SoCal Ninja
260
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Posted - 2012.07.10 09:45:00 -
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What the heck!? thread resurrected?! |
SoCal Ninja
260
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Posted - 2012.07.10 15:03:00 -
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bump to get this thread going again. |
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