bump to get this thread going again.

WOAH! Thread has been unlocked and brought back... little strange but I'm not complaining. If a dev/GM could clue me into the reason for the lock in the first place maybe I could help make this thread a little safer or something. Anyway... back to theory crafting. Woohoo!

Introduction

Hello! My name is SoCal_Ninja, you may have seen me around the forums or in-game or in other games (I play a lot of different ones). I figured I'd make a place to really dig into the scout class because I'm curious about how people use it and what minds brighter than mine have to say about it. I hope that this thread gets a bumping with your thoughts and exploration of the scout class, and I can't wait to see what you guys contribute! Also, to be totally honest I'm looking for like-minded players for a future special project, but that's just a side thing. The main task is to getting people talking about scout.

Alrighty, this thread is for the discussion of the *cough* most awesome *cough* dropsuit around, the scout dropsuit. The purpose is to nail down stats, loadouts, and tactics available and discuss bugs or stat errors. Please be constructive, thoughtful, and precise with your feedback and contributions, when possible get exact stats as well. Okay let's get this going.

Also, don't forget to like this post cause this was a lot of work, thanks!

The Stats

These links will take you to the google document pictures of the tables I have made regarding each weapon, equipment, dropsuit, or module. These tables are based on the tooltips found in game so they may have discrepancies from their in game stats (if you find them let me know). But these tables also contain other stats that I included myself, like weapon DPS, damage per clip, comparison between base stats and maxed SP stats, etc. I hope you enjoy them, and feel free to leave comments in the picture's comment section.

***If the images are too small for you right click and select "Open Image in New Tab".***
Weapons

• Assault Rifles
• Sniper Rifles
• Shotguns
• Submachine Guns
• Scrambler Pistols
• Swarm Launchers
• Mass Drivers
• AV Grenades
• Locus Grenades

Equipment

• Nanohives
• Drop Uplinks
• Nanite Injectors
• Repair Tools
• Remote Explosives

Dropsuits

• Scout Dropsuit

Modules

• Armor Plates

nice to see the thread is back up


I was reading the reason to engage a heavy tactic an wanted to add some stuff. Heavys have been getting alot easier to take out with an smg, an from wat i can tell scouts are the best for taking out heavys. Usually when i see a heavy i make sure to take out any scouts or assaults first just like garrett said. Then after its just me an him i start running rite at him to close the distance quick cause once ur in close u move way faster then him an its easy to do circles around him try switching up ur rotation to confuse him.


Jumping also works good for heavys i usually try jumping over them then start circling them. An just know ur shield recharges way faster then his so if he manages to drop ur shields find cover quick but once its back attack him again fast. The main thing is to be really aggressive against a heavy if u try to keep ur distance an hide he well probably pick u off. So pretty much get in close an use ur speed an stamina to take them down. Other then that grenades or RE are the best for taking out heavys

I second that bumb SoCal.

I don't know about you, but since Dust came out I have not touched DCUO at all!

Good job on the scout suit, its looking like a great thread my friend. Keep up the good work.

Just stopping by to drop a like and say that I will continue to contribute to this guide.

I'm currently working on what I think will be the first fitting completely based around using the nova knife as a primary weapon. I should have all the necessary skills completed by the end of the upcoming weekend so that I can test it. I'll be sure to post it here immediately if it works out as planned.

On a related note, does anyone know if the knife is effected by the damage buffs from the Weaponry skill? That extra 15% damage could make a huge difference on a fully stacked knife.

EDIT: A difference of around 50 damage if my damage calculations applied the buffs correctly. About 550 HP without the 15% from Weaponry, around 600 HP with the 15%. That is using Knife Handling lv.5, 3 Complex Myofibril Stimulants (stacking penalties included), and Weaponry lv.5.

I wonder how you fight forge gun users. even the splash damage can one shot you.

V. Heavies

Heavies are awkwardly positioned right now because of the heavy nerfing that took place on the HMG and the Swarm Launcher (I'm in the open lol).

mass drivers

I personally love the Mass Driver. While not particularly effective in a 1v1. I find that it works well if you stay out of the direct fight and let your team mates tank/apply damage while you rip through shields and kill strafers. Also its a great ambush/guerrilla weapon I have found myself in fight where my teammates were getting out strafed by an assault/scout with little health left I fire one round from a MD and boom no more strafe scout.

Low ammo count : Nanohives help with that if you can get/ stay out of the direct fight.
Short range : MD have a rather short range being grenade launchers, so hide around corners, ambush, RUN (prolly the most important). Use the terrain to your advantage, hills, low spots, obstacles and such are your best friend.

I use the basic MD and have put no SP into skills for it and still find it very effective if used correctly.

I would love to see a squad of 2-4 people with Scout MD's. Used as a QRF (quick response force) I think
they could be very effective at taking or retaking objectives.

I will post my fit when I get a chance (I'm at work atm). Also this is an excellent thread.

I just wanted to say 'THANK YOU SoCal_Ninja!' for the awesome post. This info is a tremendous help. I hope CCP gives you some creds.

I've been running scout for about a month now, here's my build

Purpose: Low cost Anti-Material

How to play: Avoid direct confrontation with infantry. When in doubt, sprint for cover. This build is designed to get you into position as quickly as possible to deal with enemy vehicles, or quickly take objectives or installations when you catch the enemy out of position. It's all about speed, avoidance, and being a constant irritant, while maintaining an overall low ISK overhead.

Cost: 11,850 ISK

CPU/PG: 144/28 (obviously dependant on what CPU reducing skills you've trained)

Dropsuit: Type-I

Light Weapon: CBR7 Swarm Launcher

Sidearm Weapon: SK9M Breach Submachine Gun

Grenades: NONE

Equipment Slot 1: Militia Nanohive

High-Power Module 1: Basic Shield Recharger

Low-Power Module 1: Militia CPU Upgrade

Low-Power Module 2: Militia Cardiac Stimulant

I'm actually impressed by the scout abilities the more I play as one. Scouts have a huge advantage over heavies more often then not and I'm only using BPO's on my loadout -- at the moment anyway.

I wanted to ask though if anyone else was having a problem in-game with the shotgun, by which I am concerned that the game itself is not registering hits. I'm also noticing that when I fire my shotgun whether due to the auto-aim, frame rate or a combination of the two that sometimes it feels like the game shoots just to the side of where I was aiming. It's weird really.

I am impressed though with the shotgun. More surprised by the extremely low ISK prices on the market for even the proto-types. Same goes for the SMGs too.

Ah. So when I am able to slow my rate of fire that will actually help with reducing the latency? That is good to know, but CCP needs to fix the issue itself. Increasing the frame rate may actually help with this as well fixing the other issues as well.

Thanks, SoCal.

Just posted the Quicker Knifing by SoCal_Ninja tactic on the thread about the way to quick knife by alternating L3 and R3