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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.14 00:45:00 -
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Boykos i know this is not about game but i thing everyone should know about it.
There was 2suicide and one bombing attack in Paris.
I pray for everyone who was on that place.
I hope the situation will be resolved asap.
Sadly cca 140 boykos and lass died.
My condolences to their families :(
We are with you France (Czech republic, Slovakia, Ireland)
"We are the children of the Desolation."
One Scavenging Survivalist
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7th Son 7
Hakuna Matatah Inc
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Posted - 2015.11.14 00:53:00 -
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It's a travesty, and my thoughts and prayers will be on France and everyone suffering on such a sad day. o7
Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ----- OSHO
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.14 00:55:00 -
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7th Son 7 wrote:It's a travesty, and my thoughts and prayers will be on France and everyone suffering on such a sad day. o7
Boyo i hope this will not spread.
My parents and granies are in Czech republic, what is just few miles away.
Im really scared right now, honestly three attacks in one evening that is scary.
"We are the children of the Desolation."
One Scavenging Survivalist
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:02:00 -
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President Francois Holland closed the Borders to and out of France.
There is already cca 150 victimes and approx. another 100 injured.
"We are the children of the Desolation."
One Scavenging Survivalist
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Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:03:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:7th Son 7 wrote:It's a travesty, and my thoughts and prayers will be on France and everyone suffering on such a sad day. o7 Boyo i hope this will not spread. My parents and granies are in Czech republic, what is just few miles away. Im really scared right now, honestly three attacks in one evening that is scary.
One of my cousin lives in the street where one of the attacks happened (she was inside hopefully). I feel you man.. Those bars and places are familiar to me.. I've been there several times and I could've been there tonight :S
I don't believe it'll spread in Europe tho. It's a direct answer to the war in Syria. But damn, it hurts.
Bring your daughter... TO THE SLAUGHTER !
- Sequal Rise
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:06:00 -
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Sometimes i forgots in what and how my life is good.
But these things, boyo i do not feel great about it.
We are all heroes here in games and in our lives without issues.
But this is scary stuff and Iam 31 years old.
This is not good.
"We are the children of the Desolation."
One Scavenging Survivalist
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:07:00 -
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I hope there is a world war 3 it will speed up technology progression so we have more ways to kill people!
laser rifles anyone?
Im just a glorified blueberry
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:09:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:I hope there is a world war 3 it will speed up technology progression so we have more ways to kill people!
laser rifles anyone?
I know you are my clanmate but boyo this is stupid.
Im contractor i saw some stuff, but i do not want war near to my love ones, my family.
That is most scary thing what i know.
"We are the children of the Desolation."
One Scavenging Survivalist
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:09:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:I hope there is a world war 3 it will speed up technology progression so we have more ways to kill people!
laser rifles anyone?
This isn't the time or the place for such a comment.
Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu
Kaze, you are best logi. Best. Logi.
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Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:10:00 -
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Closed border. All theaters and reunion places closed. A freaking curfew. It is scary.
Bring your daughter... TO THE SLAUGHTER !
- Sequal Rise
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7th Son 7
Hakuna Matatah Inc
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:11:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:Sometimes i forgots in what and how my life is good.
But these things, boyo i do not feel great about it.
We are all heroes here in games and in our lives without issues.
But this is scary stuff and Iam 31 years old.
This is not good.
No it's not, war i'm afraid will be the outcome, which will cause more suffering. It's sooo fuk'ed
Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ----- OSHO
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:12:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Golden Day wrote:I hope there is a world war 3 it will speed up technology progression so we have more ways to kill people!
laser rifles anyone? This isn't the time nor the place for such a comment.
And this thread isn't dust related ,your point?
Im just a glorified blueberry
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:13:00 -
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All flights are canceled since now.
"We are the children of the Desolation."
One Scavenging Survivalist
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:14:00 -
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Nearly everyone trapped in the theatre was systematically executed.
I have difficulty understanding how people can be capable of such an act. What twisted resolve drives these monsters?
Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu
Kaze, you are best logi. Best. Logi.
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:15:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Golden Day wrote:I hope there is a world war 3 it will speed up technology progression so we have more ways to kill people!
laser rifles anyone? This isn't the time nor the place for such a comment. And this thread isn't dust related ,your point?
Somehow it actually is, we have French players if you do not know.
Or players with families over there.
And i think this is important info thb.
"We are the children of the Desolation."
One Scavenging Survivalist
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7th Son 7
Hakuna Matatah Inc
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:15:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Golden Day wrote:I hope there is a world war 3 it will speed up technology progression so we have more ways to kill people!
laser rifles anyone? This isn't the time nor the place for such a comment. And this thread isn't dust related ,your point?
Are you serious right now? Fuk you
Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ----- OSHO
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:16:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Nearly everyone trapped in the theatre was systematically executed.
I have difficulty understanding how people can be capable of such an act. What twisted resolve drives these monsters?
120 in theatre, that is nonsence.
We living in 21st century, we have everything, why they doing this??
"We are the children of the Desolation."
One Scavenging Survivalist
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:18:00 -
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7th Son 7 wrote:Golden Day wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Golden Day wrote:I hope there is a world war 3 it will speed up technology progression so we have more ways to kill people!
laser rifles anyone? This isn't the time nor the place for such a comment. And this thread isn't dust related ,your point? Are you serious right now? Fuk you
Aye don't blame me if you don't have a dark sense of humor I was trying to make this dust related.
Im just a glorified blueberry
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Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:19:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Nearly everyone trapped in the theatre was systematically executed.
I have difficulty understanding how people can be capable of such an act. What twisted resolve drives these monsters?
Words like "Crazy" or "Insane" couldn't describe them..
Bring your daughter... TO THE SLAUGHTER !
- Sequal Rise
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:19:00 -
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Belgium already start with special checks on borders, rails and flights.
"We are the children of the Desolation."
One Scavenging Survivalist
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:20:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:7th Son 7 wrote:Golden Day wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Golden Day wrote:I hope there is a world war 3 it will speed up technology progression so we have more ways to kill people!
laser rifles anyone? This isn't the time nor the place for such a comment. And this thread isn't dust related ,your point? Are you serious right now? Fuk you Aye don't blame me if you don't have a dark sense of humor I was trying to make this dust related.
We know but really not good place
"We are the children of the Desolation."
One Scavenging Survivalist
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:22:00 -
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Sequal's Back wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Nearly everyone trapped in the theatre was systematically executed.
I have difficulty understanding how people can be capable of such an act. What twisted resolve drives these monsters? Words like "Crazy" or "Insane" couldn't describe them..
What is even more crazy we basicaly living in time when we can solve situations just by sign, not war, not fights, just by simple sign.
"We are the children of the Desolation."
One Scavenging Survivalist
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Supernus Gigas
The Cooked Goose Coalition
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:23:00 -
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7th Son 7 wrote:Golden Day wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Golden Day wrote:I hope there is a world war 3 it will speed up technology progression so we have more ways to kill people!
laser rifles anyone? This isn't the time nor the place for such a comment. And this thread isn't dust related ,your point? Are you serious right now? Fuk you
He's not wrong.
General Discussion is for Dust related discussion.
This thread belongs in the Locker Room.
I mean, this is a travesty, but it's still the wrong board.
FIRE UP THE HEAVY MEAT GRINDER! WE'RE HAVING CLONE BURGERS TONIGHT, BOYS!
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Shamarskii Simon
The Hundred Acre Hood
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:24:00 -
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Damn... What's wrong with this world...
You know this is just the tip to the iceberg to all our problems...?
We as a race can never go forward because we as a race put barriers up amongst ourselves. Unnecessary conflict all over.
Just a little food for thought.
Do we know the motive behind it? I'll find out in the AMs with a cup of tea when the newspaper comes.
Forever ADS. Best role.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:26:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Nearly everyone trapped in the theatre was systematically executed.
I have difficulty understanding how people can be capable of such an act. What twisted resolve drives these monsters? 120 in theatre, that is nonsence.
You're right - something from a source I read implied it was a much smaller venue.
Quote:
We living in 21st century, we have everything, why they doing this??
Vive La France
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Booby Tuesdays
Bad Mother Thukkers
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:26:00 -
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Humans don't deserve this planet. All we do is make it sh1tty for everyone else.
Half Assed Forum Warrior - Half Decent Commando - Damn Good Logi - Matari Freedom Fighter lvl 8
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:26:00 -
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Supernus Gigas wrote:7th Son 7 wrote:Golden Day wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Golden Day wrote:I hope there is a world war 3 it will speed up technology progression so we have more ways to kill people!
laser rifles anyone? This isn't the time nor the place for such a comment. And this thread isn't dust related ,your point? Are you serious right now? Fuk you He's not wrong. General Discussion is for Dust related discussion. This thread belongs in the Locker Room. I mean, this is a travesty, but it's still the wrong board.
I just found it important for some people maybe in France.
Because honestly who using locker room.
This is important!!
What about some players who will play game.
Take few on forums and find their families are near to attacks?
"We are the children of the Desolation."
One Scavenging Survivalist
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Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:27:00 -
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There was actually 3 different places : - at the stadium where an important soccer match took place
- in a bar
- in a theater filled with young people...
This is all wrong..
Bring your daughter... TO THE SLAUGHTER !
- Sequal Rise
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Shamarskii Simon
The Hundred Acre Hood
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:29:00 -
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I think Astheroth (name butchered) Sad is from France.
I'll post up in the French forums tomorrow and translate any information I find?
Forever ADS. Best role.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:29:00 -
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Can we not argue over what section to put this in?
It may belong elsewhere on a technicality but many unrelated topics are posted in GD on a daily basis. It's simply the busiest place on the forum.
Let's not argue over this in the shadow of this tragedy.
Vive La France
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:31:00 -
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Sequal's Back wrote:There was actually 3 different places : - at the stadium where an important soccer match took place
- in a bar
- in a theater filled with young people...
This is all wrong..
It is in OP two suicides and one bomb one, btw police already told all 5 attackers were killed.
But honestly we know that was just one way action.
There is still someone who pulling strings.
And that is most scary thing.
"We are the children of the Desolation."
One Scavenging Survivalist
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
1
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:31:00 -
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Shamarskii Simon wrote:I think Astheroth (name butchered) Sad is from France.
I'll post up in the French forums tomorrow and translate any information I find?
Most of Prima Galicus boyo :(
"We are the children of the Desolation."
One Scavenging Survivalist
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Shamarskii Simon
The Hundred Acre Hood
505
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:32:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Can we not argue over what section to put this in?
It may belong elsewhere on a technicality but many unrelated topics are posted in GD on a daily basis. It's simply the busiest place on the forum.
Let's not argue over this in the shadow of this tragedy.
+1
Who cares where it is... A thread location is far less significant than the situation
Forever ADS. Best role.
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
2
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:32:00 -
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Exactly how many people died?
Im just a glorified blueberry
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Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:33:00 -
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Shamarskii Simon wrote:Damn... What's wrong with this world...
You know this is just the tip to the iceberg to all our problems...?
We as a race can never go forward because we as a race put barriers up amongst ourselves. Unnecessary conflict all over.
Just a little food for thought.
Do we know the motive behind it? I'll find out in the AMs with a cup of tea when the newspaper comes.
The motive is "simple" : France took part in the war in Syria so Daesh answered cowardly by attacking french people in crowded places :/
Bring your daughter... TO THE SLAUGHTER !
- Sequal Rise
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:33:00 -
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I wonder what the knock-on effects of this will be.
The migrant encampment at Calais has a crowd forming, apparently.
Vive La France
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:34:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:Exactly how many people died?
Death toll is at least 149. No final figure yet.
Vive La France
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:35:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:Exactly how many people died?
Aprox 150 right now but newspapers told there is another 100 injured.
Exact number what they have is 138 or 140 (i count it here from news).
Oki it is near to 160 right now.
This is crazy, i see here pictures from streets, there is people with kids.
But what is more svary there is big crowds around busses, i hope there will not be another attack directly against that busses.
I saw that before.
"We are the children of the Desolation."
One Scavenging Survivalist
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
2
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:41:00 -
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Sequal's Back wrote:Shamarskii Simon wrote:Damn... What's wrong with this world...
You know this is just the tip to the iceberg to all our problems...?
We as a race can never go forward because we as a race put barriers up amongst ourselves. Unnecessary conflict all over.
Just a little food for thought.
Do we know the motive behind it? I'll find out in the AMs with a cup of tea when the newspaper comes. The motive is "simple" : France took part in the war in Syria so Daesh answered cowardly by attacking french people in crowded places :/
That's not acting cowardly that's using tactics unless of course you want a tactical advanced troop of soldiers killing more than just 148 people....
Im just a glorified blueberry
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Shamarskii Simon
The Hundred Acre Hood
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:42:00 -
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Sequal's Back wrote:Shamarskii Simon wrote:Damn... What's wrong with this world...
You know this is just the tip to the iceberg to all our problems...?
We as a race can never go forward because we as a race put barriers up amongst ourselves. Unnecessary conflict all over.
Just a little food for thought.
Do we know the motive behind it? I'll find out in the AMs with a cup of tea when the newspaper comes. The motive is "simple" : France took part in the war in Syria so Daesh answered cowardly by attacking french people in crowded places :/
ISIS/ISIL/ Daesh is crazy. But that means it must of been French born terrorists no?
How the flux is the world going to be in the new year? Are tensions going to be tight?
... France's "War on Terror?" (aka NATO's)
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My real question is how is ISIS still here? Can't everyone join a side for greater good or some diplomacy (i hope)?
Forever ADS. Best role.
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:43:00 -
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Jeez there are some messages meybe about another shooting somewhere else.
I see here pictures of people, in blankets, covered in blood, with kids all confused.
This is sad.
"We are the children of the Desolation."
One Scavenging Survivalist
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Radiant Pancake3
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:45:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Golden Day wrote:I hope there is a world war 3 it will speed up technology progression so we have more ways to kill people!
laser rifles anyone? This isn't the time nor the place for such a comment. And this thread isn't dust related ,your point?
This is serious and you're a joke. Now shut up and go back in the cage. Who let you out anyway?
"Porn fixes computer problems" - Radiant Pancake3
Min Loyalist.
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:46:00 -
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Shamarskii Simon wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:Shamarskii Simon wrote:Damn... What's wrong with this world...
You know this is just the tip to the iceberg to all our problems...?
We as a race can never go forward because we as a race put barriers up amongst ourselves. Unnecessary conflict all over.
Just a little food for thought.
Do we know the motive behind it? I'll find out in the AMs with a cup of tea when the newspaper comes. The motive is "simple" : France took part in the war in Syria so Daesh answered cowardly by attacking french people in crowded places :/ ISIS/ISIL/ Daesh is crazy. But that means it must of been French born terrorists no? How the flux is the world going to be in the new year? Are tensions going to be tight? ... France's "War on Terror?" (aka NATO's) ..... .... ... .. . My real question is how is ISIS still here? Can't everyone join a side for greater good or some diplomacy (i hope)?
Its easy before that were mujahedines, after that it was al - kaida and other groups and after death of usama, they basicaly merge with all that funding back together.
And now you have these ones.
this is just vilenothing else just ville :(
"We are the children of the Desolation."
One Scavenging Survivalist
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Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:53:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:Shamarskii Simon wrote:Damn... What's wrong with this world...
You know this is just the tip to the iceberg to all our problems...?
We as a race can never go forward because we as a race put barriers up amongst ourselves. Unnecessary conflict all over.
Just a little food for thought.
Do we know the motive behind it? I'll find out in the AMs with a cup of tea when the newspaper comes. The motive is "simple" : France took part in the war in Syria so Daesh answered cowardly by attacking french people in crowded places :/ That's not acting cowardly that's using tactics unless of course you want a tactical advanced troop of soldiers killing more than just 148 people....
They are not facing armed soldiers here. They are attacking defenseless crowds with bombs and AK-47. How's that not acting cowardly ?
Bring your daughter... TO THE SLAUGHTER !
- Sequal Rise
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:58:00 -
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Radiant Pancake3 wrote:Golden Day wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Golden Day wrote:I hope there is a world war 3 it will speed up technology progression so we have more ways to kill people!
laser rifles anyone? This isn't the time nor the place for such a comment. And this thread isn't dust related ,your point? This is serious and you're a joke. Now shut up and go back in the cage. Who let you out anyway?
I'm sowwy I hurt ur feelings would u like some ice cream fur ur huwt feelins?
Im just a glorified blueberry
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:59:00 -
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Sequal's Back wrote:Golden Day wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:Shamarskii Simon wrote:Damn... What's wrong with this world...
You know this is just the tip to the iceberg to all our problems...?
We as a race can never go forward because we as a race put barriers up amongst ourselves. Unnecessary conflict all over.
Just a little food for thought.
Do we know the motive behind it? I'll find out in the AMs with a cup of tea when the newspaper comes. The motive is "simple" : France took part in the war in Syria so Daesh answered cowardly by attacking french people in crowded places :/ That's not acting cowardly that's using tactics unless of course you want a tactical advanced troop of soldiers killing more than just 148 people.... They are not facing armed soldiers here. They are attacking defenseless crowds with bombs and AK-47. How's that not acting cowardly ?
Honestly i do not care about strategies here boyos.
This was wrong, all its wrong.
If im soldier i go fight for my coutry and people and i know i can die.
If im contractor i go fight for contract and my group and i know i can die.
But here, this was basicaly masacre of civil people, they should be secured and saved from this not killed.
"We are the children of the Desolation."
One Scavenging Survivalist
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
2
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Posted - 2015.11.14 02:00:00 -
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Sequal's Back wrote:Golden Day wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:Shamarskii Simon wrote:Damn... What's wrong with this world...
You know this is just the tip to the iceberg to all our problems...?
We as a race can never go forward because we as a race put barriers up amongst ourselves. Unnecessary conflict all over.
Just a little food for thought.
Do we know the motive behind it? I'll find out in the AMs with a cup of tea when the newspaper comes. The motive is "simple" : France took part in the war in Syria so Daesh answered cowardly by attacking french people in crowded places :/ That's not acting cowardly that's using tactics unless of course you want a tactical advanced troop of soldiers killing more than just 148 people.... They are not facing armed soldiers here. They are attacking defenseless crowds with bombs and AK-47. How's that not acting cowardly ?
Tactic-an action or strategy carefully planned to achieve a specific end.
Pretty sure they planned it out and achieved a specific goal
Im just a glorified blueberry
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Radiant Pancake3
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Posted - 2015.11.14 02:02:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:Radiant Pancake3 wrote:Golden Day wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Golden Day wrote:I hope there is a world war 3 it will speed up technology progression so we have more ways to kill people!
laser rifles anyone? This isn't the time nor the place for such a comment. And this thread isn't dust related ,your point? This is serious and you're a joke. Now shut up and go back in the cage. Who let you out anyway? I'm sorry I hurt your feelings. Would you like some ice cream for your hurt feelings?
Now that I translated that to English...
Stop acting like a five year old. It's uncalled for, obviously you're too stupid to know why so I won't bother explaining because you can't fix stupid. You really are what your signature says, you're just a non-glorified blueberry. 
"Porn fixes computer problems" - Radiant Pancake3
Min Loyalist.
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
1
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Posted - 2015.11.14 02:03:00 -
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Irish and British goverenment already turn on the nonstop foreign affairs telephone links for all citizents in France for info.
"We are the children of the Desolation."
One Scavenging Survivalist
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Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game
1
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Posted - 2015.11.14 02:06:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:
They are not facing armed soldiers here. They are attacking defenseless crowds with bombs and AK-47. How's that not acting cowardly ?
Tactic-an action or strategy carefully planned to achieve a specific end. Pretty sure they planned it out and achieved a specific goal
Using tactic doesn't mean you're not a coward. It's even worse.
Bring your daughter... TO THE SLAUGHTER !
- Sequal Rise
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.14 02:09:00 -
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NUUUUH dun take away my glorified blueberry in this near-dead still somehow alive game!!!!!
lets get on top of golden day for making a dark joke!
I'll get all the buckets so my tears will be collected as you poke me with pitch forks and make dank jokes!
Im just a glorified blueberry
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7th Son 7
Hakuna Matatah Inc
1
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Posted - 2015.11.14 02:11:00 -
[52] - Quote
Sequal's Back wrote:Golden Day wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:
They are not facing armed soldiers here. They are attacking defenseless crowds with bombs and AK-47. How's that not acting cowardly ?
Tactic-an action or strategy carefully planned to achieve a specific end. Pretty sure they planned it out and achieved a specific goal Using tactic doesn't mean you're not a coward. It's even worse.
Their saying it's the worst terrorist attack in France's history and the worst since 9/11, stop with the arguing
Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ----- OSHO
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Radiant Pancake3
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Posted - 2015.11.14 02:11:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:NUUUUH dun take away my glorified blueberry in this near-dead still somehow alive game!!!!!
lets get on top of golden day for making a dark joke!
I'll get all the buckets so my tears will be collected as you poke me with pitch forks and make dank jokes!
I'm fine with animal abuse.
*Prepares the pitch fork*
(Don't take this seriously.)
"Porn fixes computer problems" - Radiant Pancake3
Min Loyalist.
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Shamarskii Simon
The Hundred Acre Hood
506
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Posted - 2015.11.14 02:12:00 -
[54] - Quote
postapo wastelander wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:Golden Day wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:Shamarskii Simon wrote:Damn... What's wrong with this world...
You know this is just the tip to the iceberg to all our problems...?
We as a race can never go forward because we as a race put barriers up amongst ourselves. Unnecessary conflict all over.
Just a little food for thought.
Do we know the motive behind it? I'll find out in the AMs with a cup of tea when the newspaper comes. The motive is "simple" : France took part in the war in Syria so Daesh answered cowardly by attacking french people in crowded places :/ That's not acting cowardly that's using tactics unless of course you want a tactical advanced troop of soldiers killing more than just 148 people.... They are not facing armed soldiers here. They are attacking defenseless crowds with bombs and AK-47. How's that not acting cowardly ? Honestly i do not care about strategies here boyos. This was wrong, all its wrong. If im soldier i go fight for my coutry and people and i know i can die. If im contractor i go fight for contract and my group and i know i can die. But here, this was basicaly masacre of civil people, they should be secured and saved from this not killed.
War never changes.
There's always going to be innocents caught in conflict . ISIS just took it home on France.
Forever ADS. Best role.
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.14 02:14:00 -
[55] - Quote
Sequal's Back wrote:Golden Day wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:
They are not facing armed soldiers here. They are attacking defenseless crowds with bombs and AK-47. How's that not acting cowardly ?
Tactic-an action or strategy carefully planned to achieve a specific end. Pretty sure they planned it out and achieved a specific goal Using tactic doesn't mean you're not a coward. It's even worse.
Coward-noun
a person who lacks the courage to do or endure dangerous or unpleasant things.
They had the courage to do dangerous and unpleasant things best thing to call them is monsters
Im just a glorified blueberry
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
1
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Posted - 2015.11.14 02:17:00 -
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French presiden Francois Hollande told France is in the war
United States president Barack Obama told He will do all what takes for justice
Great Britain premier David Cameron told He will do anything to help
"We are the children of the Desolation."
One Scavenging Survivalist
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Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game
1
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Posted - 2015.11.14 02:17:00 -
[57] - Quote
MAN! There's no courage in killing defenseless civil !
Stop being an ass and shut it now !
Bring your daughter... TO THE SLAUGHTER !
- Sequal Rise
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Radiant Pancake3
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Posted - 2015.11.14 02:21:00 -
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Sequal's Back wrote:MAN! There's no courage in killing defenseless civil !
Stop being an ass and shut it now !
He's being an ignorant ass. Let him be...
inb4 Smartass
ig-+no-+rant
-êi+ín+Ör+Önt/
adjective
lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated.
"he was told constantly that he was ignorant and stupid"
synonyms:uneducated, unknowledgeable, untaught, unschooled, untutored, untrained, illiterate, unlettered, unlearned, unread, uninformed, unenlightened, benighted;
lacking knowledge, information, or awareness about something in particular.
"they were ignorant of astronomy"
synonyms:without knowledge of, unaware of, unconscious of, oblivious to, incognizant of, unfamiliar with, unacquainted with, uninformed about, ill-informed about, unenlightened about, unconversant with, inexperienced in/with, naive about, green about;
informal
discourteous or rude.
"this ignorant, pin-brained receptionist"
"Porn fixes computer problems" - Radiant Pancake3
Min Loyalist.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
11
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Posted - 2015.11.14 02:23:00 -
[59] - Quote
Golden Day wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:Golden Day wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:
They are not facing armed soldiers here. They are attacking defenseless crowds with bombs and AK-47. How's that not acting cowardly ?
Tactic-an action or strategy carefully planned to achieve a specific end. Pretty sure they planned it out and achieved a specific goal Using tactic doesn't mean you're not a coward. It's even worse. Coward-noun a person who lacks the courage to do or endure dangerous or unpleasant things. They had the courage to do dangerous and unpleasant things best thing to call them is monsters
Just shut up now.
People are dying.
This is not your time to soapboxes and try to point out the nuances of the english language, which includes meaning based on context, tone and inflection.
More importantly, these people are DEAD.
There is no courage in herding unarmed, scared civilians and executing them one by one like animals in a slaughterhouse.
So if you're not going to acknowledge the gravity of the acts, remove yourself from the discussion.
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.14 02:24:00 -
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Sequal's Back wrote:MAN! There's no courage in killing defenseless civil !
Stop being an ass and shut it now !
I'm not being such a thing I was correcting a error.
And there is courage if you know you will most likely be gunned down by authorities stop getting pissed off because I was just trying to correct a error.
Im just a glorified blueberry
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
1
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Posted - 2015.11.14 02:24:00 -
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Oki boyos i hope it will be better in France and in situation what we have right now (i hope).
But i leaving for now.
Maybe i help someone today, maybe not i tried my best.
Anyway i hope this tragedy will not be overshadowed by some trolling what i saw here.
Because boyos this is really tragedy and i do not want to somehow dishonour the remembrance of the victims.
"We are the children of the Desolation."
One Scavenging Survivalist
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Radiant Pancake3
2
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Posted - 2015.11.14 02:25:00 -
[62] - Quote
Breakin Stuff wrote:Golden Day wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:Golden Day wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:
They are not facing armed soldiers here. They are attacking defenseless crowds with bombs and AK-47. How's that not acting cowardly ?
Tactic-an action or strategy carefully planned to achieve a specific end. Pretty sure they planned it out and achieved a specific goal Using tactic doesn't mean you're not a coward. It's even worse. Coward-noun a person who lacks the courage to do or endure dangerous or unpleasant things. They had the courage to do dangerous and unpleasant things best thing to call them is monsters Just shut up now. People are dying. This is not your time to soapboxes and try to point out the nuances of the english language, which includes meaning based on context, tone and inflection. More importantly, these people are DEAD. There is no courage in herding unarmed, scared civilians and executing them one by one like animals in a slaughterhouse. So if you're not going to acknowledge the gravity of the acts, remove yourself from the discussion.
You know he's not going to stop because he's a teenager right?
"Porn fixes computer problems" - Radiant Pancake3
Min Loyalist.
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
1
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Posted - 2015.11.14 02:28:00 -
[63] - Quote
Golden Day wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:MAN! There's no courage in killing defenseless civil !
Stop being an ass and shut it now ! I'm not being such a thing I was correcting a error. And there is courage if you know you will most likely be gunned down by authorities stop getting pissed off because I was just trying to correct a error.
BTW you boyko i understand you like black/dark style of humour but today, honestly and even when you are my clanmate:
"SHAME ON YOU, YOUR PARENTS WILL BE REALLY PROUD IF THEY WILL SEE ALL THAT STUFF WHAT YOU MADE HERE!"
"We are the children of the Desolation."
One Scavenging Survivalist
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
11
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Posted - 2015.11.14 02:35:00 -
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I think the EU should treat this as a military attack on european soil, and treat any captured terrorists as non-uniformed enemy combatant engaged in insurgency under the law of war, the Geneva convention and relevant treaties.
They need to stop treating terrorists as criminals and applying the designation of enemy combatant, not in uniform and react accordingly.
This is merely my opinion. I do NOT expect anyone to agree, or share it. Nor do i consider anyone who disagrees to be wrong.
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
2
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Posted - 2015.11.14 02:36:00 -
[65] - Quote
Breakin Stuff wrote:Golden Day wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:Golden Day wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:
They are not facing armed soldiers here. They are attacking defenseless crowds with bombs and AK-47. How's that not acting cowardly ?
Tactic-an action or strategy carefully planned to achieve a specific end. Pretty sure they planned it out and achieved a specific goal Using tactic doesn't mean you're not a coward. It's even worse. Coward-noun a person who lacks the courage to do or endure dangerous or unpleasant things. They had the courage to do dangerous and unpleasant things best thing to call them is monsters Just shut up now. People are dying. This is not your time to soapboxes and try to point out the nuances of the english language, which includes meaning based on context, tone and inflection. More importantly, these people are DEAD. There is no courage in herding unarmed, scared civilians and executing them one by one like animals in a slaughterhouse. So if you're not going to acknowledge the gravity of the acts, remove yourself from the discussion.
I'm sorry senpai please forgive me =ƒÿ+
I'll try not to upset and **** people off in a non-related dust threads in GD.
Know what?
I'll start a crowd funder to buy a flower =Ĕ+ for each person who died to those horrible "cowards" and send them a card on it saying
"Please take this flower from this freedom loving American who just now started caring about you right now"
/-ó
Im just a glorified blueberry
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
2
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Posted - 2015.11.14 02:38:00 -
[66] - Quote
postapo wastelander wrote:Golden Day wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:MAN! There's no courage in killing defenseless civil !
Stop being an ass and shut it now ! I'm not being such a thing I was correcting a error. And there is courage if you know you will most likely be gunned down by authorities stop getting pissed off because I was just trying to correct a error. BTW you boyko i understand you like black/dark style of humour but today, honestly and even when you are my clanmate: "SHAME ON YOU, YOUR PARENTS WILL BE REALLY PROUD IF THEY WILL SEE ALL THAT STUFF WHAT YOU MADE HERE!"
*Assumed I still had my parents*
Im just a glorified blueberry
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Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game
1
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Posted - 2015.11.14 02:42:00 -
[67] - Quote
Breakin Stuff wrote:I think the EU should treat this as a military attack on european soil, and treat any captured terrorists as non-uniformed enemy combatant engaged in insurgency under the law of war, the Geneva convention and relevant treaties.
They need to stop treating terrorists as criminals and applying the designation of enemy combatant, not in uniform and react accordingly.
This is merely my opinion. I do NOT expect anyone to agree, or share it. Nor do i consider anyone who disagrees to be wrong.
I think that's the way they are treated here in France. Thing is that they don't belong to one country, and they don't represent an army. They are just part of a terrorist group. Should they be considered as combatant for this or organized criminals ? Don't know if it really matters..
France declared war against them, so the government finally reacted accordingly ^^
Monde de fous...
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7th Son 7
Hakuna Matatah Inc
1
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Posted - 2015.11.14 02:50:00 -
[68] - Quote
@ Golden, you do realize the impact this will have for America, right? This absolutely will effect not only France but other countries as well. You're need to be right should not be greater than what this truly means, i'm sorry you know nobody in the active military but I do, and this is bad brother. o7
Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ----- OSHO
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JIMvc2
KILL-EM-QUICK
Rise Of Legion.
1
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Posted - 2015.11.14 02:51:00 -
[69] - Quote
Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Golden Day wrote:I hope there is a world war 3 it will speed up technology progression so we have more ways to kill people!
laser rifles anyone? This isn't the time or the place for such a comment.
I hope WW3 Doesn't happen. I had to register for the USA Selective Service so yea. Im not in the mood nor want to join the military. some Family members are in the military and I highly respect them and friends as well.
I go to college and Its just dangerous that something like this could happen. I live in a nice quiet community but no matter how safe you live in. Always check your surroundings and scan every face you see. If you see anything suspicious report it.
May the lord bless those in Paris.
Judge my muscle content then I'll judge you by your Half Marathon time. Never underestimate runners - "Jim"
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.14 02:56:00 -
[70] - Quote
7th Son 7 wrote:@ Golden, you do realize the impact this will have for America, right? This absolutely will effect not only France but other countries as well. You're need to be right should not be greater than what this truly means, i'm sorry you know nobody in the active military but I do, and this is bad brother. o7
Active no but vet yes.
She is abit lost in the head 
Lost in her head as in talking to imaginary people and arguing with those imaginary people.
Im just a glorified blueberry
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
1
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Posted - 2015.11.14 02:56:00 -
[71] - Quote
JIMvc2 wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Golden Day wrote:I hope there is a world war 3 it will speed up technology progression so we have more ways to kill people!
laser rifles anyone? This isn't the time or the place for such a comment. I hope WW3 Doesn't happen. I had to register for the USA Selective Service so yea. Im not in the mood nor want to join the military. some Family members are in the military and I highly respect them and friends as well. I go to college and Its just dangerous that something like this could happen. I live in a nice quiet community but no matter how safe you live in. Always check your surroundings and scan every face you see. If you see anything suspicious report it. May the lord bless those in Paris.
I still have one year for possible conscripting.
I hope world will not finish like we can see in our games.
"We are the children of the Desolation."
One Scavenging Survivalist
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
1
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Posted - 2015.11.14 02:57:00 -
[72] - Quote
7th Son 7 wrote:@ Golden, you do realize the impact this will have for America, right? This absolutely will effect not only France but other countries as well. You're need to be right should not be greater than what this truly means, i'm sorry you know nobody in the active military but I do, and this is bad brother. o7
Im PSC and i defo dont want have war near my family.
"We are the children of the Desolation."
One Scavenging Survivalist
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Forever ETC
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1
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Posted - 2015.11.14 02:59:00 -
[73] - Quote
JIMvc2 wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Golden Day wrote:I hope there is a world war 3 it will speed up technology progression so we have more ways to kill people!
laser rifles anyone? This isn't the time or the place for such a comment. I hope WW3 Doesn't happen. I had to register for the USA Selective Service so yea. Im not in the mood nor want to join the military. some Family members are in the military and I highly respect them and friends as well. I go to college and Its just dangerous that something like this could happen. I live in a nice quiet community but no matter how safe you live in. Always check your surroundings and scan every face you see. If you see anything suspicious report it. May the lord bless those in Paris.
Yeah not gonna happen, we've come to the point where it is quality>quantity. Battles now are about feet gained not men loss, they've become skirmishes nothing more. Besides we haven't used the draft in how many years?
AmarrFTW
"The Hero got his feelings hurt for 9 hp... "
Not For Sale- Sanders 2016
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
2
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Posted - 2015.11.14 03:00:00 -
[74] - Quote
7th Son 7 wrote:@ Golden, you do realize the impact this will have for America, right? This absolutely will effect not only France but other countries as well. You're need to be right should not be greater than what this truly means, i'm sorry you know nobody in the active military but I do, and this is bad brother. o7
Nvm after thinking about it ww3 wont be fought by laser guns but bombs and things stronger than nukes.
Im just a glorified blueberry
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Booby Tuesdays
Bad Mother Thukkers
2
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Posted - 2015.11.14 03:06:00 -
[75] - Quote
Golden Day wrote:I hope there is a world war 3 it will speed up technology progression so we have more ways to kill people!
laser rifles anyone?
Golden, you are a sad human being. I hope that one day you find love. Everyone deserves to find love, even you.
Half Assed Forum Warrior - Half Decent Commando - Damn Good Logi - Matari Freedom Fighter lvl 8
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Forever ETC
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1
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Posted - 2015.11.14 03:10:00 -
[76] - Quote
Booby Tuesdays wrote:Golden Day wrote:I hope there is a world war 3 it will speed up technology progression so we have more ways to kill people!
laser rifles anyone? Golden, you are a sad human being. I hope that one day you find love. Everyone deserves to find love, even you.
I'm sure he has a right hand
AmarrFTW
"The Hero got his feelings hurt for 9 hp... "
Not For Sale- Sanders 2016
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
2
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Posted - 2015.11.14 03:12:00 -
[77] - Quote
Booby Tuesdays wrote:Golden Day wrote:I hope there is a world war 3 it will speed up technology progression so we have more ways to kill people!
laser rifles anyone? Golden, you are a sad human being. I hope that one day you find love. Everyone deserves to find love, even you.
I'm happy till we have laser rifles sold locally at gun stores unless you are will to put in the research and studying of making such a thing ill buy the first one from you for 1,000$ if you give me the manual how to work it and not over heat and burn myself
Im just a glorified blueberry
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Shamarskii Simon
The Hundred Acre Hood
507
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Posted - 2015.11.14 03:13:00 -
[78] - Quote
Sequal's Back wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:I think the EU should treat this as a military attack on european soil, and treat any captured terrorists as non-uniformed enemy combatant engaged in insurgency under the law of war, the Geneva convention and relevant treaties.
They need to stop treating terrorists as criminals and applying the designation of enemy combatant, not in uniform and react accordingly.
This is merely my opinion. I do NOT expect anyone to agree, or share it. Nor do i consider anyone who disagrees to be wrong. I think that's the way they are treated here in France. Thing is that they don't belong to one country, and they don't represent an army. They are just part of a terrorist group. Should they be considered as combatant for this or organized criminals ? Don't know if it really matters.. France declared war against them, so the government finally reacted accordingly ^^
Isn't France part of NATO?
If yes, then an attack on France is an attack on all countries part of NATO.
USA declared war on Al-Q, so i guess France can declare war on ISIS/Daesh?
Forever ADS. Best role.
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
2
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Posted - 2015.11.14 03:13:00 -
[79] - Quote
Forever ETC wrote:Booby Tuesdays wrote:Golden Day wrote:I hope there is a world war 3 it will speed up technology progression so we have more ways to kill people!
laser rifles anyone? Golden, you are a sad human being. I hope that one day you find love. Everyone deserves to find love, even you. I'm sure he has a right hand
Don't forget the stranger hand and Mr.sock
Im just a glorified blueberry
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PLAYSTTION
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
2
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Posted - 2015.11.14 03:15:00 -
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Just about to make a thread of my own on this. My prayers are with the victims and their families.
o7 from Canada, sadly our new Prime Minister won't fight so we can't help you with ISIS, but his "supportive words" are with you. I wish we could just launch a full scale war on ISIS with the entire UN's forces and get it over with.
Galassault Galogi Galsent Galmando Galscout
Open Beta Vet - 52 mil sp
Director of Corrosive Synergy
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IceShifter Childhaspawn
Rebels New Republic
The Ditanian Alliance
827
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Posted - 2015.11.14 03:18:00 -
[81] - Quote
Edit
It's hard to beat up hundreds of armor piercing bullets using only your face...
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PLAYSTTION
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
2
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Posted - 2015.11.14 03:18:00 -
[82] - Quote
Golden Day wrote:Booby Tuesdays wrote:Golden Day wrote:I hope there is a world war 3 it will speed up technology progression so we have more ways to kill people!
laser rifles anyone? Golden, you are a sad human being. I hope that one day you find love. Everyone deserves to find love, even you. I'm happy till we have laser rifles sold locally at gun stores unless you are will to put in the research and studying of making such a thing ill buy the first one from you for 1,000$ if you give me the manual how to work it and not over heat and burn myself
You can just make one. I saw a DIY video on one once, pretty nice, probably same TTK IRL as in Dust.
Galassault Galogi Galsent Galmando Galscout
Open Beta Vet - 52 mil sp
Director of Corrosive Synergy
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
2
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Posted - 2015.11.14 03:19:00 -
[83] - Quote
PLAYSTTION wrote:Just about to make a thread of my own on this. My prayers are with the victims and their families.
o7 from Canada, sadly our new Prime Minister won't fight so we can't help you with ISIS, but his "supportive words" are with you. I wish we could just launch a full scale war on ISIS with the entire UN's forces and get it over with.
Isn't that a abit...overkill??
Im just a glorified blueberry
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Shamarskii Simon
The Hundred Acre Hood
507
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Posted - 2015.11.14 03:20:00 -
[84] - Quote
PLAYSTTION wrote:Just about to make a thread of my own on this. My prayers are with the victims and their families.
o7 from Canada, sadly our new Prime Minister won't fight so we can't help you with ISIS, but his "supportive words" are with you. I wish we could just launch a full scale war on ISIS with the entire UN's forces and get it over with.
Trudeau logic... It made no sense why he withdrew us...
I was thinking he was trying to go for a diplomatic way to ending it but... That's definitely something beyond his capabilities, firstly. Secondly, i hear nothing about him involving ISIS.
Edit:
Canada is part of NATO though... So doesn't that mean Canada's involved indirectly?
Forever ADS. Best role.
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
2
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Posted - 2015.11.14 03:21:00 -
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PLAYSTTION wrote:Golden Day wrote:Booby Tuesdays wrote:Golden Day wrote:I hope there is a world war 3 it will speed up technology progression so we have more ways to kill people!
laser rifles anyone? Golden, you are a sad human being. I hope that one day you find love. Everyone deserves to find love, even you. I'm happy till we have laser rifles sold locally at gun stores unless you are will to put in the research and studying of making such a thing ill buy the first one from you for 1,000$ if you give me the manual how to work it and not over heat and burn myself You can just make one. I saw a DIY video on one once, pretty nice, probably same TTK IRL as in Dust.
I might depending if I could use it for hunting and if I could sell it to local laser enthusiasts
Im just a glorified blueberry
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Nyain San
1
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Posted - 2015.11.14 03:43:00 -
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BRING IN THE DOUCHIE WHITE KNIGHTS!
Your post is making me facepalm. ò.ó
Nyan!~~=[,,..,,]:3
Nyain SanGäó (rated ® for rape) is currently accepting hatemails.
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PLAYSTTION
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
2
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Posted - 2015.11.14 03:43:00 -
[87] - Quote
Golden Day wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:Just about to make a thread of my own on this. My prayers are with the victims and their families.
o7 from Canada, sadly our new Prime Minister won't fight so we can't help you with ISIS, but his "supportive words" are with you. I wish we could just launch a full scale war on ISIS with the entire UN's forces and get it over with. Isn't that a abit...overkill??
Thats the point. Lets say ISIS has 100k (i think they do actually) send in 20mil UN and boom, done.
OR
Gas all of ISIS held land with sleeping gas strong enough to knock out anyone for days. Then drop Paratroops with gas masks and boom, done.
Also, heres a wired question, if conscription was returned, would women be drafted?
lol feminists be like,"equality, equality, eq...conscription of women? we'll pass on that"
Galassault Galogi Galsent Galmando Galscout
Open Beta Vet - 52 mil sp
Director of Corrosive Synergy
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Forever ETC
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Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1
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Posted - 2015.11.14 03:47:00 -
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PLAYSTTION wrote:Golden Day wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:Just about to make a thread of my own on this. My prayers are with the victims and their families.
o7 from Canada, sadly our new Prime Minister won't fight so we can't help you with ISIS, but his "supportive words" are with you. I wish we could just launch a full scale war on ISIS with the entire UN's forces and get it over with. Isn't that a abit...overkill?? Thats the point. Lets say ISIS has 100k (i think they do actually) send in 20mil UN and boom, done. OR Gas all of ISIS held land with sleeping gas strong enough to knock out anyone for days. Then drop Paratroops with gas masks and boom, done. Also, heres a wired question, if conscription was returned, would women be drafted? lol feminists be like,"equality, equality, eq...conscription of women? we'll pass on that"
That's not how it works...
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Shamarskii Simon wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:Just about to make a thread of my own on this. My prayers are with the victims and their families.
o7 from Canada, sadly our new Prime Minister won't fight so we can't help you with ISIS, but his "supportive words" are with you. I wish we could just launch a full scale war on ISIS with the entire UN's forces and get it over with. Trudeau logic... It made no sense why he withdrew us... I was thinking he was trying to go for a diplomatic way to ending it but... That's definitely something beyond his capabilities, firstly. Secondly, i hear nothing about him involving ISIS. Edit: Canada is part of NATO though... So doesn't that mean Canada's involved indirectly?
Sort of, but its up to JT in the end I think. We'll probably just support, but i don't think JT made room in his deficit budgets and spending for a revitalized military industry, his "empowering" speeches will have to be enough for now.
I heard Russia is now not our ally because we pulled out of Syria.
I think people just don't like to sacrifice anymore. Yea, it sucks to have to give up your life but it is necessary to stop people like this. Too much emphasis on "Me" and your own life in the west, not enough on others.
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The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2015.11.14 03:51:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:Boykos i know this is not about game but i thing everyone should know about it.
There was 2suicide and one bombing attack in Paris.
I pray for everyone who was on that place.
I hope the situation will be resolved asap.
Sadly cca 140 boykos and lass died.
My condolences to their families :(
We are with you France (Czech republic, Slovakia, Ireland)
Edit.:President of France Francois Hollande wants to close borders and declared state of emergency already!!
I am as shocked as everyone else and all the victims and people affected (every westerner?) have my symphaties.
But still, this belongs to the locker room:
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Forever ETC wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:Golden Day wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:Just about to make a thread of my own on this. My prayers are with the victims and their families.
o7 from Canada, sadly our new Prime Minister won't fight so we can't help you with ISIS, but his "supportive words" are with you. I wish we could just launch a full scale war on ISIS with the entire UN's forces and get it over with. Isn't that a abit...overkill?? Thats the point. Lets say ISIS has 100k (i think they do actually) send in 20mil UN and boom, done. OR Gas all of ISIS held land with sleeping gas strong enough to knock out anyone for days. Then drop Paratroops with gas masks and boom, done. Also, heres a weird question, if conscription was returned, would women be drafted? lol feminists be like,"equality, equality, eq...conscription of women? we'll pass on that" That's not how it works...
That whole post was basically jokes. Except for the question, I would like to ask a government leader that. I just want people to take action and get rid of ISIS, I understand the complications of a ground war especially in the middle east.
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Talk about prisoners of your own device.
http://www.meguiar.addr.com/end_times/muslim_takeover_of_europe.htm
You can either be blind and politically correct or get real and worry.
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Sequal's Back wrote:Closed border. All theaters and reunion places closed. A freaking curfew. It is scary.
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Have been on a plane and walking around Singapore after concluding my European holiday and it is terribly sad to find out something like this has occurred to the people of France again.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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I'm shocked by the events in Paris, living in Belgium only 350 km (217 miles) away from where this happened it's quite frightening...
Our hearts and minds go out to all victims and relatives involved in these events, and to all other people in France...
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Posted - 2015.11.14 08:26:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Systematic executions in the Bataclan.
I have difficulty understanding how people can be capable of such an act. What twisted resolve drives these monsters?
its called religion and far much worse crimes have been committed in the name of religion that just this
this is why i sleep with a 40cal next to me and an ar15 under my bed
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Posted - 2015.11.14 08:32:00 -
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i dont understand how they even pulled off this is the french civilian populace not armed>?
you would think there woulda been a few civis with guns at at least one of these sites...
isa travesty but i cant help but think if the civilian populace were armed it wouldnt have been so bad...muslim kicks down the door to my favorite bar screams some allah gibberish i pull my gun kill him and go back to my drink,..cause thats how americans do lol
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Posted - 2015.11.14 08:46:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:i dont understand how they even pulled off this is the french civilian populace not armed>?
you would think there woulda been a few civis with guns at at least one of these sites...
isa travesty but i cant help but think if the civilian populace were armed it wouldnt have been so bad...muslim kicks down the door to my favorite bar screams some allah gibberish i pull my gun kill him and go back to my drink,..cause thats how americans do lol
Guns are illegal in France (and Europe in general). When we look at the numbers, the amount of people killed by weapons in America per year is far more than 140. Yes it could've help yesterday, but on any other day, it only makes things worse and easily done :/
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Posted - 2015.11.14 08:47:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:i dont understand how they even pulled off this is the french civilian populace not armed>?
you would think there woulda been a few civis with guns at at least one of these sites...
isa travesty but i cant help but think if the civilian populace were armed it wouldnt have been so bad...muslim kicks down the door to my favorite bar screams some allah gibberish i pull my gun kill him and go back to my drink,..cause thats how americans do lol
This is Europe... we do not have an arms tradition like in the US.
We do not have an arms lobby group like the nra, and we have a strict regulation on arms. (speaking about Belgium)
Due to these reasons we do not have shootings like in the US...
But with these events... one might consider...
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Posted - 2015.11.14 08:47:00 -
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I cant believe im seeing this on the Dust 514 forums.
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Posted - 2015.11.14 08:48:00 -
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VIVE LA FRANCE
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RabbitGang
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james selim brownstein wrote:I cant believe im seeing this on the Dust 514 forums.
Nobody tells you to read it..
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Mortedeamor
The Black Masquerade
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Posted - 2015.11.14 08:52:00 -
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ZED Regent wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:i dont understand how they even pulled off this is the french civilian populace not armed>?
you would think there woulda been a few civis with guns at at least one of these sites...
isa travesty but i cant help but think if the civilian populace were armed it wouldnt have been so bad...muslim kicks down the door to my favorite bar screams some allah gibberish i pull my gun kill him and go back to my drink,..cause thats how americans do lol This is Europe... we do not have an arms tradition like in the US. We do not have an arms lobby group like the nra, and we have a strict regulation on arms. (speaking about Belgium) Due to these reasons we do not have shootings like in the US... But with these events... one might consider...
i agree we do have eons more gun violence we also have a lot of civilian take downs..even civilian arrests
they are not attacking your military they are attacking you..and YOU deserve the ability to carry a defensive weapon and not be left like sheep for the slaughter...i cannot imagine the devastation they can wreak on Europe's unarmed populace.
two terrorists attacked texas both were shot and killed before they could hurt anyone by civilians..i hope your government allows you to buy the personal protection you need they cannot keep you safe from terrorists attacks like this..it will happen and when it happens you should be able to defend yourselves .
i pity any terrorist that trying to pull of an attack where i'm at i will turn that area into a killing field
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Posted - 2015.11.14 08:54:00 -
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james selim brownstein wrote:I cant believe im seeing this on the Dust 514 forums.
why because 150 people were just murdered in the name of religion some of us have family over there you know
i woke up at 3 am sick and vomiting i checked the dust forums before i went to bed not the news and then i saw this and immediate messaged to make sure they are ok thank you op
i wouldnt have known till tomorrow if not for this
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Mortedeamor
The Black Masquerade
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Posted - 2015.11.14 09:24:00 -
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PLAYSTTION wrote:Golden Day wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:Just about to make a thread of my own on this. My prayers are with the victims and their families.
o7 from Canada, sadly our new Prime Minister won't fight so we can't help you with ISIS, but his "supportive words" are with you. I wish we could just launch a full scale war on ISIS with the entire UN's forces and get it over with. Isn't that a abit...overkill?? Thats the point. Lets say ISIS has 100k (i think they do actually) send in 20mil UN and boom, done. OR Gas all of ISIS held land with sleeping gas strong enough to knock out anyone for days. Then drop Paratroops with gas masks and boom, done. Also, heres a weird question, if conscription was returned, would women be drafted? lol feminists be like,"equality, equality, eq...conscription of women? we'll pass on that"
i'm all for the glass parking lot theory we should all just pool our resources and melt the middle east ..not like they are not slaughtering our civilians being the bigger person is gunna cost us Europe there should be a full scale retaliation for what has happened in France ..;we should hit them hard so hard they never think to **** the un off again
just like we did with japan after pearl harbor
pull all our diplomats out and melt the place turn all that lovely sand into glass
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.14 10:11:00 -
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ZED Regent wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:i dont understand how they even pulled off this is the french civilian populace not armed>?
you would think there woulda been a few civis with guns at at least one of these sites...
isa travesty but i cant help but think if the civilian populace were armed it wouldnt have been so bad...muslim kicks down the door to my favorite bar screams some allah gibberish i pull my gun kill him and go back to my drink,..cause thats how americans do lol This is Europe... we do not have an arms tradition like in the US. We do not have an arms lobby group like the nra, and we have a strict regulation on arms. (speaking about Belgium) Due to these reasons we do not have shootings like in the US... But with these events... one might consider...
We can amred ourselves but it is not easy like in US.
We can have just semiautomatic arms and we basicaly cannot take them outside without reall reasson.
For this we have leagly stated army.
I understand what you mean, but take it from other side of coin.
If we will have possibilities like you boyos have for example in Vegas.
It will be propably bigger masacre.
I just hope it will be better, i don want war near my friends and family.
"We are the children of the Desolation."
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Mortedeamor
The Black Masquerade
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Posted - 2015.11.14 10:24:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:ZED Regent wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:i dont understand how they even pulled off this is the french civilian populace not armed>?
you would think there woulda been a few civis with guns at at least one of these sites...
isa travesty but i cant help but think if the civilian populace were armed it wouldnt have been so bad...muslim kicks down the door to my favorite bar screams some allah gibberish i pull my gun kill him and go back to my drink,..cause thats how americans do lol This is Europe... we do not have an arms tradition like in the US. We do not have an arms lobby group like the nra, and we have a strict regulation on arms. (speaking about Belgium) Due to these reasons we do not have shootings like in the US... But with these events... one might consider... We can amred ourselves but it is not easy like in US. We can have just semiautomatic arms and we basicaly cannot take them outside without reall reasson. For this we have leagly stated army. I understand what you mean, but take it from other side of coin. If we will have possibilities like you boyos have for example in Vegas. It will be propably bigger masacre. I just hope it will be better, i don want war near my friends and family.
i wish you the best at least your allowed to defend you house with firearms thats something..if war ever breaks out in the streets im sure your government wont blame you for taking you gun outside your house..
honestly with all the terrorist attacks in the past few years i do not step outside my house unless im armed to the teeth
i have cousins next to le petit cambodge..Frances security concerns me they may be immigrating to america put some distance between them and isis's holy war
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Posted - 2015.11.14 10:29:00 -
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Thank you for your support o7
And for those who dare to joke about this situation you are just fking idiots
And feel sad for the total absence of your brain
Smile .. .. Tomorrow will be worse
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Posted - 2015.11.14 10:40:00 -
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Gengis-Kun wrote:Thank you for your support o7
And for those who dare to joke about this situation you are just fking idiots
And feel sad for the total absence of your brain
I hope you are boyos are fine.
"We are the children of the Desolation."
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Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.11.14 10:47:00 -
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I'm not sure the solution to issues such as this is creating a generation of overly paranoid and terrified civilian soldiers. Still the heart goes out to the people of France it's truly terrible that such a thing should ever have happened. I'll be looking at contacting my French friend to make sure they are okay as soon as I get back to New Zealand.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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Shamarskii Simon
The Hundred Acre Hood
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Posted - 2015.11.14 10:48:00 -
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5:47 here... Almost newspaper time for me.
All this info will hit like a truck.
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Prima Gallicus
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Posted - 2015.11.14 10:54:00 -
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It s ok for me and my family thx postapo
(i live 6 km from this place )
Smile .. .. Tomorrow will be worse
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Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.11.14 11:18:00 -
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A journalist filmed the emergency exit of the theater Le Bataclan and it's now online...
http://www.lepoint.fr/societe/attaques-de-paris-un-journaliste-du-monde-filme-la-fuite-du-bataclan-14-11-2015-1981592_23.php
These pictures are shocking, don't watch if you don't think you can handle this..
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Corrosive Synergy
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Posted - 2015.11.14 11:24:00 -
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I just saw that on sky news
He was shooted to hand during filming.
On the video you can see people hanging from windows for life.
Shooting inside.
He asked what happens.
One boyo hop away propably shooted, outside dead and injured body blured.
After another serie of shooting and people running from inside.
That is really scary.
It must be devastation for these civilians.
Just imagine you enjoying friday night and in few second you have hell on earth.
It is just ridiculous it was in friday 13th
"We are the children of the Desolation."
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Mortedeamor
The Black Masquerade
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Posted - 2015.11.14 11:54:00 -
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Gengis-Kun wrote:It s ok for me and my family thx postapo
(i live 6 km from this place )
i am glad you are ok
my cousins are alive and well as well
they live two blocks from le petit cambodge was pretty worried
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postapo wastelander
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Posted - 2015.11.14 12:06:00 -
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Another news.
Survivors told the attackers had perfect french, police told it is most possible the attackers were french or lived in france for long time.
Classic "sleepers" scenario.
Oki boyos i think all thing is already greatly covered by media already
I will left this article here like support for our friends and people in France.
"We are the children of the Desolation."
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Prima Gallicus
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Mortedeamor wrote:Gengis-Kun wrote:It s ok for me and my family thx postapo
(i live 6 km from this place ) i am glad you are ok my cousins are alive and well as well they live two blocks from le petit cambodge was pretty worried
Thx I hope you re cousins is fine too
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
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I have to say i am not suprised that another attack has taken place. ISIS is taking over and with this 'immigration crisis' happening at the same time it is easy for ISIS to get members into all of the EU with no background checks taking place where they are shipped and bussed over to Germany and France etc in greater numbers.
Moving livestock from one country to another is harder.
I do expect more attacks to take place, its not that we have to worry about them in the middle east (i would still bomb the hell out of them, go russia) but really worry about who the hell is coming over in the boats but the problem is the EU is worried about being PC and not being classed as racist.
The french people are yet again paying in blood for the weakness of the EU and it will only get worse.
Sympathies to the french people.
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Posted - 2015.11.14 12:31:00 -
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Religion is the most useless thing in the universe.
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postapo wastelander
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RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.14 13:09:00 -
[122] - Quote
Czech republic - Prague Castle raised black flag for France in solidarity act
"We are the children of the Desolation."
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Ardos 130297
Prima Gallicus
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Posted - 2015.11.14 13:13:00 -
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YUUKI TERUMI wrote:Religion is the most useless thing in the universe.
I just can agreed...
And yes, I'm alive, I live near Lyon... I just saw all of this, this morning...
How to begin a good day...
You do not win a war by making what is just...
You win it by making what is necessary...
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Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game
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Ardos 130297 wrote:YUUKI TERUMI wrote:Religion is the most useless thing in the universe. I just can agreed... And yes, I'm alive, I live near Lyon... I just saw all of this, this morning... How to begin a good day...
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Golden Day wrote:I hope there is a world war 3 it will speed up technology progression so we have more ways to kill people!
laser rifles anyone?
be glad you live in a safe area
versus
hmmmm the daily sound of a military helicopter doing a flyby and the daily question of is it the all clear or does it mean another Cartel gunbattle in a few moments
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YUUKI TERUMI wrote:Religion is the most useless thing in the universe.
When used as an excuse for senseless violence .....agreed.
but only on that point.
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Golden Day wrote:I hope there is a world war 3 it will speed up technology progression so we have more ways to kill people!
laser rifles anyone? be glad you live in a safe area versus hmmmm the daily sound of a military helicopter doing a flyby and the daily question of is it the all clear or does it mean another Cartel gunbattle in a few moments
texas? i used to live on the border of texas and mexico was like that a ******* battlefield
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Mortedeamor wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Golden Day wrote:I hope there is a world war 3 it will speed up technology progression so we have more ways to kill people!
laser rifles anyone? be glad you live in a safe area versus hmmmm the daily sound of a military helicopter doing a flyby and the daily question of is it the all clear or does it mean another Cartel gunbattle in a few moments texas? i used to live on the border of texas and mexico was like that a ******* battlefield
texas and mexico border is kinda calm compared to where i live in Tamaulipas, Victoria.
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:I have to say i am not suprised that another attack has taken place. ISIS is taking over and with this 'immigration crisis' happening at the same time it is easy for ISIS to get members into all of the EU with no background checks taking place where they are shipped and bussed over to Germany and France etc in greater numbers.
Moving livestock from one country to another is harder.
I do expect more attacks to take place, its not that we have to worry about them in the middle east (i would still bomb the hell out of them, go russia) but really worry about who the hell is coming over in the boats but the problem is the EU is worried about being PC and not being classed as racist.
The french people are yet again paying in blood for the weakness of the EU and it will only get worse.
Sympathies to the french people.
That's partially true in my opinion.
We in Italy have at least 2-3 boats of irregular immigrants everyday. But still, at least for what I know, none of the irregular immigrants has been involved in any of the recent attacks in Europe.
The problem are the people who were born and raised in Europe/US. That's why you can't really say who is the terrorist and who's not. Also, France has always had the strongest presence of immigrants from middle east, and many of them are even 3rd/4th generation French. It is not so easy.
In a "traditional" war you already know who is the enemy. Now, you don't know who they are. They don't have a specific nationality, nor they can be easily recognized. You can decide to attack IS in their "home" but the problem is not IS itself.
As someone before me said, the problem here is religion and its interpretation.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not even atheist, but religion, may be (and has certainly been) strumentalised in order to manipulate the (ignorant) masses. And when you manipulate people from the second largest religion, the problem becomes huge.
That's why EU can't do nothing. We have seen way too many wars because of religion to let this happen again.
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:I have to say i am not suprised that another attack has taken place. ISIS is taking over and with this 'immigration crisis' happening at the same time it is easy for ISIS to get members into all of the EU with no background checks taking place where they are shipped and bussed over to Germany and France etc in greater numbers.
Moving livestock from one country to another is harder.
I do expect more attacks to take place, its not that we have to worry about them in the middle east (i would still bomb the hell out of them, go russia) but really worry about who the hell is coming over in the boats but the problem is the EU is worried about being PC and not being classed as racist.
The french people are yet again paying in blood for the weakness of the EU and it will only get worse.
Sympathies to the french people. That's partially true in my opinion. We in Italy have at least 2-3 boats of irregular immigrants everyday. But still, at least for what I know, none of the irregular immigrants has been involved in any of the recent attacks in Europe. The problem are the people who were born and raised in Europe/US. That's why you can't really say who is the terrorist and who's not. Also, France has always had the strongest presence of immigrants from middle east, and many of them are even 3rd/4th generation French. It is not so easy. In a "traditional" war you already know who is the enemy. Now, you don't know who they are. They don't have a specific nationality, nor they can be easily recognized. You can decide to attack IS in their "home" but the problem is not IS itself. As someone before me said, the problem here is religion and its interpretation. Don't get me wrong, I'm not even atheist, but religion, may be (and has certainly been) strumentalised in order to manipulate the (ignorant) masses. And when you manipulate people from the second largest religion, the problem becomes huge. That's why EU can't do nothing. We have seen way too many wars because of religion to let this happen again.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/top-10-reasons.htm
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Mortedeamor
The Black Masquerade
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:I have to say i am not suprised that another attack has taken place. ISIS is taking over and with this 'immigration crisis' happening at the same time it is easy for ISIS to get members into all of the EU with no background checks taking place where they are shipped and bussed over to Germany and France etc in greater numbers.
Moving livestock from one country to another is harder.
I do expect more attacks to take place, its not that we have to worry about them in the middle east (i would still bomb the hell out of them, go russia) but really worry about who the hell is coming over in the boats but the problem is the EU is worried about being PC and not being classed as racist.
The french people are yet again paying in blood for the weakness of the EU and it will only get worse.
Sympathies to the french people. That's partially true in my opinion. We in Italy have at least 2-3 boats of irregular immigrants everyday. But still, at least for what I know, none of the irregular immigrants has been involved in any of the recent attacks in Europe. The problem are the people who were born and raised in Europe/US. That's why you can't really say who is the terrorist and who's not. Also, France has always had the strongest presence of immigrants from middle east, and many of them are even 3rd/4th generation French. It is not so easy. In a "traditional" war you already know who is the enemy. Now, you don't know who they are. They don't have a specific nationality, nor they can be easily recognized. You can decide to attack IS in their "home" but the problem is not IS itself. As someone before me said, the problem here is religion and its interpretation. Don't get me wrong, I'm not even atheist, but religion, may be (and has certainly been) strumentalised in order to manipulate the (ignorant) masses. And when you manipulate people from the second largest religion, the problem becomes huge. That's why EU can't do nothing. We have seen way too many wars because of religion to let this happen again.
I am an athiest..and I agree humans have spilled enough blood in the name of religion throughout history honestly I thought we were beyond this
A survey shows that a large percentage of French Muslims hold higher loyalty to their religion than to France about 30% of those that hold the religion in higher regards then France also believe suicide bombing is justified
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postapo wastelander wrote:Sometimes i forgots in what and how my life is good.
But these things, boyo i do not feel great about it.
We are all heroes here in games and in our lives without issues.
But this is scary stuff and Iam 31 years old.
This is not good.
what is boyo mean??
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Anmol Singh wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Sometimes i forgots in what and how my life is good.
But these things, man i do not feel great about it.
We are all heroes here in games and in our lives without issues.
But this is scary stuff and Iam 31 years old.
This is not good. what is boyo mean??
it is as it sounds it is a welsh or irish way of saying informally boy or man
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:I have to say i am not suprised that another attack has taken place. ISIS is taking over and with this 'immigration crisis' happening at the same time it is easy for ISIS to get members into all of the EU with no background checks taking place where they are shipped and bussed over to Germany and France etc in greater numbers.
Moving livestock from one country to another is harder.
I do expect more attacks to take place, its not that we have to worry about them in the middle east (i would still bomb the hell out of them, go russia) but really worry about who the hell is coming over in the boats but the problem is the EU is worried about being PC and not being classed as racist.
The french people are yet again paying in blood for the weakness of the EU and it will only get worse.
Sympathies to the french people. That's partially true in my opinion. We in Italy have at least 2-3 boats of irregular immigrants everyday. But still, at least for what I know, none of the irregular immigrants has been involved in any of the recent attacks in Europe. The problem are the people who were born and raised in Europe/US. That's why you can't really say who is the terrorist and who's not. Also, France has always had the strongest presence of immigrants from middle east, and many of them are even 3rd/4th generation French. It is not so easy. In a "traditional" war you already know who is the enemy. Now, you don't know who they are. They don't have a specific nationality, nor they can be easily recognized. You can decide to attack IS in their "home" but the problem is not IS itself. As someone before me said, the problem here is religion and its interpretation. Don't get me wrong, I'm not even atheist, but religion, may be (and has certainly been) strumentalised in order to manipulate the (ignorant) masses. And when you manipulate people from the second largest religion, the problem becomes huge. That's why EU can't do nothing. We have seen way too many wars because of religion to let this happen again.
Yet, 7/7 over here they were mostly born and raised over here, but with the boats coming in they can easily be sleepers and just bide there time really and let 6months pass and then strike again when everyone is looking somewhere else.
I do agree the religion and its interpretation is the main problem but this has been happening for years now and they believe it to the core and the fact that there is over 1 billion muslims just means that if 10% believe that is a big problem and that is not including those who do agree with them but say nothing, even christians crusaded at a point but eventually stopped and calmed down but muslims have been at it for centuries in some form or another and do not look like stopping.
It also doesn't help that the west have gone into the middle east for whatever reason (oil) and consistantly likes to stir **** up which then gives IS a excuse to **** about and go jihad somewhere, look at syria to get rid of assad they armed what we found out later was IS and now it is back to bombing the middle east and creating the cycle all again for the next generation to jihad against the west.
It seems to be the standard cycle, west interferes/bombs and a terrorist group pops up bombs the west and the cycle repeats.
War is here already.
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Mortedeamor
The Black Masquerade
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Posted - 2015.11.14 16:41:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:I have to say i am not suprised that another attack has taken place. ISIS is taking over and with this 'immigration crisis' happening at the same time it is easy for ISIS to get members into all of the EU with no background checks taking place where they are shipped and bussed over to Germany and France etc in greater numbers.
Moving livestock from one country to another is harder.
I do expect more attacks to take place, its not that we have to worry about them in the middle east (i would still bomb the hell out of them, go russia) but really worry about who the hell is coming over in the boats but the problem is the EU is worried about being PC and not being classed as racist.
The french people are yet again paying in blood for the weakness of the EU and it will only get worse.
Sympathies to the french people. That's partially true in my opinion. We in Italy have at least 2-3 boats of irregular immigrants everyday. But still, at least for what I know, none of the irregular immigrants has been involved in any of the recent attacks in Europe. The problem are the people who were born and raised in Europe/US. That's why you can't really say who is the terrorist and who's not. Also, France has always had the strongest presence of immigrants from middle east, and many of them are even 3rd/4th generation French. It is not so easy. In a "traditional" war you already know who is the enemy. Now, you don't know who they are. They don't have a specific nationality, nor they can be easily recognized. You can decide to attack IS in their "home" but the problem is not IS itself. As someone before me said, the problem here is religion and its interpretation. Don't get me wrong, I'm not even atheist, but religion, may be (and has certainly been) strumentalised in order to manipulate the (ignorant) masses. And when you manipulate people from the second largest religion, the problem becomes huge. That's why EU can't do nothing. We have seen way too many wars because of religion to let this happen again. Yet, 7/7 over here they were mostly born and raised over here, but with the boats coming in they can easily be sleepers and just bide there time really and let 6months pass and then strike again when everyone is looking somewhere else. I do agree the religion and its interpretation is the main problem but this has been happening for years now and they believe it to the core and the fact that there is over 1 billion muslims just means that if 10% believe that is a big problem and that is not including those who do agree with them but say nothing, even christians crusaded at a point but eventually stopped and calmed down but muslims have been at it for centuries in some form or another and do not look like stopping. It also doesn't help that the west have gone into the middle east for whatever reason (oil) and consistantly likes to stir **** up which then gives IS a excuse to **** about and go jihad somewhere, look at syria to get rid of assad they armed what we found out later was IS and now it is back to bombing the middle east and creating the cycle all again for the next generation to jihad against the west. It seems to be the standard cycle, west interferes/bombs and a terrorist group pops up bombs the west and the cycle repeats. War is here already.
but dude oil ...
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:Golden Day wrote:I hope there is a world war 3 it will speed up technology progression so we have more ways to kill people!
laser rifles anyone? be glad you live in a safe area versus hmmmm the daily sound of a military helicopter doing a flyby and the daily question of is it the all clear or does it mean another Cartel gunbattle in a few moments texas? i used to live on the border of texas and mexico was like that a ******* battlefield texas and mexico border is kinda calm compared to where i live in Tamaulipas, Victoria. eeh on the plus side its easy to make a chess set just from bullet caseings that drop in the streets.
oh **** yeah you actually live in mexico im sorry ...been there is scary those cartels are just brutal i didnt leave the american resort to scary
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https://www.rt.com/news/321873-france-aircraft-carrier-Syris/
I remember being in a restaurant in Toulon France eating with a Sailor from the Charles de Gaulle in 2011 while the Libya crisis was going down about to enter full swing. While a strong language barrier was present we agreed that the right thing had to be done. Our countries have had their disagreements at times, but yet again in time of need retribution will be delivered. So as the de Gaulle sorties again... Let's pray that all servicemen and women present will stay safe.
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... In other news.
The comments section of the Toronto Sun say Israel might be next to encounter something like this... I'll have to wait till i get back the news paper to see the details.
Since Last night more police are patrolling Downtown Toronto supposedly... Affects us on the other side of the Atlantic, too.
Jeez... Not to sound stupid but... This is like a modern day Crusades now that I think about it -- just Muslims instead of Christians. Hopefully it doesn't become a modern day Crusade.
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YUUKI TERUMI wrote:Religion is the most useless thing in the universe.
Without religion I'd go on a killing spree
Without religion America wouldn't be a thing
Im just a glorified blueberry
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Shamarskii Simon wrote:... In other news.
The comments section of the Toronto Sun say Israel might be next to encounter something like this... I'll have to wait till i get back the news paper to see the details.
Since Last night more police are patrolling Downtown Toronto supposedly... Affects us on the other side of the Atlantic, too.
Honestly, Canada doesn't fair well dealing with terror on a large scale in our borders (FLQ for example). So i think tons of people are paranoid here, too. Especially the racist ones in the GTA (my mother for example).
Jeez... Not to sound stupid but... This is like a modern day Crusades now that I think about it -- just Muslims instead of Christians. Hopefully it doesn't become a modern day Crusade.
If anything it will be another EU country and my bet is Germany after taking in over 800k of 'refugees'.
It even turns out one of the terrorists came over to greece actually got registered as a 'refugee' and within one month got to france and took part in this attack, it wan't even a sleeper it was literally someone who got off the boat.
Canada you are on the other side of the water but rumors have it you could be taking in 35k of 'refugees' who maybe terrorists unless you take them from the actual refugee camps.
Crusade is right, it is on the other foot or instead of crusade can be called islamification of the west as some do call it.
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Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church and State.
-Thomas Jefferson
Separation of church and state was the foundation of the United States of America. Mind you, many colonies were founded on the preface of religion. America is 2 different continents.
Im done with this bickering, innocent people died. You can flame the countries that react with aggression when their innocents are murdered but at least when they respond they attempt to in focused attempt to prevent collateral, while that collateral is their enemies primary prey.
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ZED Regent wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:i dont understand how they even pulled off this is the french civilian populace not armed>?
you would think there woulda been a few civis with guns at at least one of these sites...
isa travesty but i cant help but think if the civilian populace were armed it wouldnt have been so bad...muslim kicks down the door to my favorite bar screams some allah gibberish i pull my gun kill him and go back to my drink,..cause thats how americans do lol This is Europe... we do not have an arms tradition like in the US. We do not have an arms lobby group like the nra, and we have a strict regulation on arms. (speaking about Belgium) Due to these reasons we do not have shootings like in the US... But with these events... one might consider...
The idea of an oppressive group attempting to crush your civil liberties, insurgency and plain criminally minded bastards are the reason we have that arms tradition that some people hate and others take to idiotic absurdness.
Most people who genuinely fear the act stripping them of their civil liberties assume the government will do so. But we have a massive buffer of two oceans between us and extremist states and groups.
Government has traditionally been the oppressor historically. What we have now is terror tactics used to inspire otherwise liberty-minded (to a greater or lesser degree) governments to enforce islamic law upon non-islamic majority to protect that majority from violence.
But that is the goal of any terrorist organization. It's never just to kill people. It's to push the government to crack down on it's own people oppressively by law for security until the population rebels or they accept the rule of law demanded by the terrorists.
If the populace of a country does not have the will to endure and fight back, it will happen. Insurgency and terrorism are the new war faced by governments. The question is, what will be the breaking point, and do we want to see what happens when the first nation loses it's collective sh*t and decides to just turn the generals loose without civilians putting their fingers into the pie?
It's going to happen. Question is where the pot boils over first.
God help us when we find out.
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Boykos boykos
The survivors told:"They had flawless french."
Ergo they were in France already, possibly even studied there.
Even the police told this is work of someone who knows area and made long time observation.
Ergo
That was not work of someone who just arived to EU.
There was actually one really sad story.
There was one doctor, he is originaly tunisian chirurg who lives with wife and daughter in France many years.
After his family heard gunshots they looked from ablcony and saw injured people.
His wife told him:"You must go outside and help them."
Do you know what he told her?
"I dont want, im tunisian and i basicaly dont have any batch or ID to prove im doctor."
Honestly i will be scared too, it is really thin line.
People can have respect from you but they can lynch you too.
And we all know what we can do when we are scared, angry etc.
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postapo wastelander wrote:
I was there during their recent independence celebrations where they had something like 5000 members of their armed forces marching through the streets around Prague Castle after various people gave their speeches. Naturally I couldn't make out a word of it but the act itself was fascinating as well as the castle being very beautiful.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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True Adamance wrote:postapo wastelander wrote: I was there during their recent independence celebrations where they had something like 5000 members of their armed forces marching through the streets around Prague Castle after various people gave their speeches. Naturally I couldn't make out a word of it but the act itself was fascinating as well as the castle being very beautiful.
It was propably "Vojensk+í p+Ö+¡saha" (Military Oath) it is made after time of conscripting.
It is this:
"J+í, voj+ík ozbrojen++ch sil, v-¢dom si sv++ch ob-ìansk++ch a vlasteneck++ch povinnost+¡, slavnostn-¢ prohla+íuji, ++e budu v-¢rn++ -îesk+¬ republice.
Budu voj+íkem state-ìn++m a uk+ízn-¢n++m a budu plnit ustanoven+¡ vojensk++ch p+Öedpis+».
Sv-¢domit-¢ se budu u-ìit ovl+ídat vojenskou techniku a zbran-¢ a p+Öipravovat se k obran-¢ -îesk+¬ republiky a br+ínit ji proti vn-¢j+í+¡mu napaden+¡.
Pro obranu vlasti jsem p+Öipraven nasadit i sv+»j ++ivot.
Tak p+Ö+¡sah+ím!"
X x X x X
"I, a soldier of the armed forces, aware of their civic and patriotic duties, do solemnly declare that I will be faithful to the Czech Republic.
I'll be brave and disciplined soldier, and I will comply with the provisions of military regulations.
I will conscientiously learn to control military technology and weapons and prepare to defend the Czech Republic and defend it against outside attack.
To defend the country I am ready to put his life.
I swear! "
There is few photos ;)
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Im really glad to hear this, because czech people are ..how i can tell it.. czech people have basicaly issues with everything XD
But when we hear how beautifull it this and that from our country/history/anything czech we are finaly proud XD
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Posted - 2015.11.14 23:19:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:ZED Regent wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:i dont understand how they even pulled off this is the french civilian populace not armed>?
you would think there woulda been a few civis with guns at at least one of these sites...
isa travesty but i cant help but think if the civilian populace were armed it wouldnt have been so bad...muslim kicks down the door to my favorite bar screams some allah gibberish i pull my gun kill him and go back to my drink,..cause thats how americans do lol This is Europe... we do not have an arms tradition like in the US. We do not have an arms lobby group like the nra, and we have a strict regulation on arms. (speaking about Belgium) Due to these reasons we do not have shootings like in the US... But with these events... one might consider... The idea of an oppressive group attempting to crush your civil liberties, insurgency and plain criminally minded bastards are the reason we have that arms tradition that some people hate and others take to idiotic absurdness. Most people who genuinely fear the act stripping them of their civil liberties assume the government will do so. But we have a massive buffer of two oceans between us and extremist states and groups. Government has traditionally been the oppressor historically. What we have now is terror tactics used to inspire otherwise liberty-minded (to a greater or lesser degree) governments to enforce islamic law upon non-islamic majority to protect that majority from violence. But that is the goal of any terrorist organization. It's never just to kill people. It's to push the government to crack down on it's own people oppressively by law for security until the population rebels or they accept the rule of law demanded by the terrorists. If the populace of a country does not have the will to endure and fight back, it will happen. Insurgency and terrorism are the new war faced by governments. The question is, what will be the breaking point, and do we want to see what happens when the first nation loses it's collective sh*t and decides to just turn the generals loose without civilians putting their fingers into the pie? It's going to happen. Question is where the pot boils over first. God help us when we find out.
when sharia law is up held in the good ole usa thats my breaking point at that point i lose my ******* mind
as for guns anyone trys to take my guns from me they better be prepared to die idc who they are
i will die before i allow sharia law to pass in my home country
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postapo wastelander wrote:Boykos boykos
The survivors told:"They had flawless french."
Ergo they were in France already, possibly even studied there.
Even the police told this is work of someone who knows area and made long time observation.
Ergo
That was not work of someone who just arived to EU.
There was actually one really sad story.
There was one doctor, he is originaly tunisian chirurg who lives with wife and daughter in France many years.
After his family heard gunshots they looked from ablcony and saw injured people.
His wife told him:"You must go outside and help them."
Do you know what he told her?
"I dont want, im tunisian and i basicaly dont have any batch or ID to prove im doctor."
Honestly i will be scared too, it is really thin line.
People can have respect from you but they can lynch you too.
And we all know what we can do when we are scared, angry etc.
has also been reported that several of the 8 were Syrian refugees ....those refugees are dangerous we have no idea how many extremists are hiding in their ranks
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Corrosive Synergy
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Mortedeamor wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Boykos boykos
The survivors told:"They had flawless french."
Ergo they were in France already, possibly even studied there.
Even the police told this is work of someone who knows area and made long time observation.
Ergo
That was not work of someone who just arived to EU.
There was actually one really sad story.
There was one doctor, he is originaly tunisian chirurg who lives with wife and daughter in France many years.
After his family heard gunshots they looked from ablcony and saw injured people.
His wife told him:"You must go outside and help them."
Do you know what he told her?
"I dont want, im tunisian and i basicaly dont have any batch or ID to prove im doctor."
Honestly i will be scared too, it is really thin line.
People can have respect from you but they can lynch you too.
And we all know what we can do when we are scared, angry etc. has also been reported that several of the 8 were Syrian refugees ....those refugees are dangerous we have no idea how many extremists are hiding in their ranks
Just one had syrian passport and honestly it is not mean anything.
He can be one of the few last waves, but he can be even just on syrian who arived long long time ago.
I want be objective here, honestly i do not believe that someone who just arive will have perfect location knowledge.
I see biggest possibilty these mongrels were already for some time in the France.
I dont advocate them, but when i will know i will know.
And what i know right now is that was just hideous act of cowardice, because if they have issue with army forces attacking their nonsence, they should attack army not inocent people.
"We are the children of the Desolation."
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Goonfeet
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The most successful tactics the insurgent groups utilize is aggressive local recruitment.
I'm willing to bet they plan this **** for years until they can go over it by the numbers in their sleep.
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The Black Masquerade
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postapo wastelander wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Boykos boykos
The survivors told:"They had flawless french."
Ergo they were in France already, possibly even studied there.
Even the police told this is work of someone who knows area and made long time observation.
Ergo
That was not work of someone who just arived to EU.
There was actually one really sad story.
There was one doctor, he is originaly tunisian chirurg who lives with wife and daughter in France many years.
After his family heard gunshots they looked from ablcony and saw injured people.
His wife told him:"You must go outside and help them."
Do you know what he told her?
"I dont want, im tunisian and i basicaly dont have any batch or ID to prove im doctor."
Honestly i will be scared too, it is really thin line.
People can have respect from you but they can lynch you too.
And we all know what we can do when we are scared, angry etc. has also been reported that several of the 8 were Syrian refugees ....those refugees are dangerous we have no idea how many extremists are hiding in their ranks Just one had syrian passport and honestly it is not mean anything. He can be one of the few last waves, but he can be even just on syrian who arived long long time ago. I want be objective here, honestly i do not believe that someone who just arive will have perfect location knowledge. I see biggest possibilty these mongrels were already for some time in the France. I dont advocate them, but when i will know i will know. And what i know right now is that was just hideous act of cowardice, because if they have issue with army forces attacking their nonsence, they should attack army not inocent people.
what about the one who supposedly came through greece and got registered as a syrian refugee 1 month before this massacre
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Corrosive Synergy
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Posted - 2015.11.14 23:52:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Boykos boykos
The survivors told:"They had flawless french."
Ergo they were in France already, possibly even studied there.
Even the police told this is work of someone who knows area and made long time observation.
Ergo
That was not work of someone who just arived to EU.
There was actually one really sad story.
There was one doctor, he is originaly tunisian chirurg who lives with wife and daughter in France many years.
After his family heard gunshots they looked from ablcony and saw injured people.
His wife told him:"You must go outside and help them."
Do you know what he told her?
"I dont want, im tunisian and i basicaly dont have any batch or ID to prove im doctor."
Honestly i will be scared too, it is really thin line.
People can have respect from you but they can lynch you too.
And we all know what we can do when we are scared, angry etc. has also been reported that several of the 8 were Syrian refugees ....those refugees are dangerous we have no idea how many extremists are hiding in their ranks Just one had syrian passport and honestly it is not mean anything. He can be one of the few last waves, but he can be even just on syrian who arived long long time ago. I want be objective here, honestly i do not believe that someone who just arive will have perfect location knowledge. I see biggest possibilty these mongrels were already for some time in the France. I dont advocate them, but when i will know i will know. And what i know right now is that was just hideous act of cowardice, because if they have issue with army forces attacking their nonsence, they should attack army not inocent people. what about the one who supposedly came through greece and got registered as a syrian refugee 1 month before this massacre
Sorry i moving to new apartment this week so i do not have new info.
I did not see news lately so this is new for me but i still think it was did/planed by someone already living in France.
I mean some sleeper.
"We are the children of the Desolation."
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.14 23:55:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:The most successful tactics the insurgent groups utilize is aggressive local recruitment.
I'm willing to bet they plan this **** for years until they can go over it by the numbers in their sleep.
I was really out of this problem, but after this attack my first thing in mind was basicaly "nuke them".
Honestly i know there is still people in place where are they, but if you ask me i will be for carpet attacks, supported by surgical strikes 24/7.
This is enough.
Im for people, for equality etc.
But enought is enough.
"We are the children of the Desolation."
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Red Star.
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Posted - 2015.11.15 00:01:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Boykos boykos
The survivors told:"They had flawless french."
Ergo they were in France already, possibly even studied there.
Even the police told this is work of someone who knows area and made long time observation.
Ergo
That was not work of someone who just arived to EU.
There was actually one really sad story.
There was one doctor, he is originaly tunisian chirurg who lives with wife and daughter in France many years.
After his family heard gunshots they looked from ablcony and saw injured people.
His wife told him:"You must go outside and help them."
Do you know what he told her?
"I dont want, im tunisian and i basicaly dont have any batch or ID to prove im doctor."
Honestly i will be scared too, it is really thin line.
People can have respect from you but they can lynch you too.
And we all know what we can do when we are scared, angry etc. has also been reported that several of the 8 were Syrian refugees ....those refugees are dangerous we have no idea how many extremists are hiding in their ranks Just one had syrian passport and honestly it is not mean anything. He can be one of the few last waves, but he can be even just on syrian who arived long long time ago. I want be objective here, honestly i do not believe that someone who just arive will have perfect location knowledge. I see biggest possibilty these mongrels were already for some time in the France. I dont advocate them, but when i will know i will know. And what i know right now is that was just hideous act of cowardice, because if they have issue with army forces attacking their nonsence, they should attack army not inocent people.
Reports coming in.
He had a syrian passport
A greek minister admited that they had proccessed him as a refugee in october
Even 2 weeks is enough to learn the location of what you will attack, 1 week will do.
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.15 00:05:00 -
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Hmm and now the Poland trying to go out from refugee plant.
This will make possition of EU states and their politics uncertain and even the shengen can/will be closed.
"We are the children of the Desolation."
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Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
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Shamarskii Simon wrote:... In other news.
The comments section of the Toronto Sun say Israel might be next to encounter something like this... I'll have to wait till i get back the news paper to see the details.
Since Last night more police are patrolling Downtown Toronto supposedly... Affects us on the other side of the Atlantic, too.
Honestly, Canada doesn't fair well dealing with terror on a large scale in our borders (FLQ for example). So i think tons of people are paranoid here, too. Especially the racist ones in the GTA (my mother for example).
Jeez... Not to sound stupid but... This is like a modern day Crusades now that I think about it -- just Muslims instead of Christians. Hopefully it doesn't become a modern day Crusade.
A fellow Torontonian!
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Operative 1174 Uuali
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
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YUUKI TERUMI wrote:Religion is the most useless thing in the universe.
Religion is dependent upon the basis of the belief. Not all religions are alike. Jesus never said to conquer people with violence. He didn't found a religion either, but the religion part is simply people following his teachings. People that use Christianity to harm are not justified by the basis of the belief, unlike Islam.
There are a lot of good people that believe in God otherwise and are better for it. I am surrounded by people like that. People are fallible however, so you can't judge a belief based on the people. When the religion is more than a religion however, and directly states that its believers should convert by force there should be a concern.
I submit this here again. Well stated.
http://www.meguiar.addr.com/end_times/muslim_takeover_of_europe.htm
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.15 00:14:00 -
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Religion is not issue, human mind is.
"We are the children of the Desolation."
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maybe deadcatz
Serris Inc
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Posted - 2015.11.15 00:18:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:Religion is not issue, human mind is.
The truth,nothing but,we humans must unite to better our world,or die trying to fight over our differences.
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General Mosquito
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:YUUKI TERUMI wrote:Religion is the most useless thing in the universe. Religion is dependent upon the basis of the belief. Not all religions are alike. Jesus never said to conquer people with violence. He didn't found a religion either, but the religion part is simply people following his teachings. People that use Christianity to harm are not justified by the basis of the belief, unlike Islam. There are a lot of good people that believe in God otherwise and are better for it. I am surrounded by people like that. People are fallible however, so you can't judge a belief based on the people. When the religion is more than a religion however, and directly states that its believers should convert by force there should be a concern. I submit this here again. Well stated. http://www.meguiar.addr.com/end_times/muslim_takeover_of_europe.htm
Blah blah, Islam is a religion of violence.
http://www.juancole.com/2015/11/ten-ways-islamic-forbids-terrorism.html
Except it isn't.
Christians use Deuteronomy amongst other things to justify a whole host of file acts. Don't try and pretend that Islam and Christianity are too sides of the same coin.
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benandjerrys wrote:Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church and State.
-Thomas Jefferson
Separation of church and state was the foundation of the United States of America. Mind you, many colonies were founded on the preface of religion. America is 2 different continents.
Im done with this bickering, innocent people died. You can flame the countries that react with aggression when their innocents are murdered but at least when they respond they attempt to in focused attempt to prevent collateral, while that collateral is their enemies primary prey.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.
No, separation of church and state does not exist in e Constitution. That is a personal quote by Jefferson. The Bill of Rights states no law shall be made establishing a state religion. Also, note it says the free exercise thereof. That includes representatives of the U.S. government. Note I said representatives. The U.S. government is the people.
There are many religious people in the U.S. and most are Christian. If Christians elect representatives who also believe or are willing to express that religion then they are so allowed. The people who are restricting rights are the atheists who want to enforce the myth of separation of church and state. To them it means to shut Christians up pure and simple.
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Operative 1174 Uuali
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
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General Mosquito wrote:Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:YUUKI TERUMI wrote:Religion is the most useless thing in the universe. Religion is dependent upon the basis of the belief. Not all religions are alike. Jesus never said to conquer people with violence. He didn't found a religion either, but the religion part is simply people following his teachings. People that use Christianity to harm are not justified by the basis of the belief, unlike Islam. There are a lot of good people that believe in God otherwise and are better for it. I am surrounded by people like that. People are fallible however, so you can't judge a belief based on the people. When the religion is more than a religion however, and directly states that its believers should convert by force there should be a concern. I submit this here again. Well stated. http://www.meguiar.addr.com/end_times/muslim_takeover_of_europe.htm Blah blah, Islam is a religion of violence. http://www.juancole.com/2015/11/ten-ways-islamic-forbids-terrorism.htmlExcept it isn't. Christians use Deuteronomy amongst other things to justify a whole host of file acts. Don't try and pretend that Islam and Christianity are too sides of the same coin.
Please, educate yourself on Islam. The history and nature of the Quran. Stop ignorantly dismissing the issue with a generic catch-all arguement. If you don't want to believe then don't, but don't try and argue a over a subject that you reject and are more than happy to be dismissive about. It leads nowhere.
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Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.11.15 00:26:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:The most successful tactics the insurgent groups utilize is aggressive local recruitment.
I'm willing to bet they plan this **** for years until they can go over it by the numbers in their sleep. I was really out of this problem, but after this attack my first thing in mind was basicaly "nuke them". Honestly i know there is still people in place where are they, but if you ask me i will be for carpet attacks, supported by surgical strikes 24/7. This is enough. Im for people, for equality etc. But enought is enough.
That is because you are an idiot.
Do you think that DAESH exists in a vacuum? Do you think brown people in the middle East don't have a bone to pick after 100 years of oppression by the West?
What they are doing is morally wrong, but to act like it is done without provocation is ignorant.
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General Mosquito
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.11.15 00:30:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:General Mosquito wrote:Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:YUUKI TERUMI wrote:Religion is the most useless thing in the universe. Religion is dependent upon the basis of the belief. Not all religions are alike. Jesus never said to conquer people with violence. He didn't found a religion either, but the religion part is simply people following his teachings. People that use Christianity to harm are not justified by the basis of the belief, unlike Islam. There are a lot of good people that believe in God otherwise and are better for it. I am surrounded by people like that. People are fallible however, so you can't judge a belief based on the people. When the religion is more than a religion however, and directly states that its believers should convert by force there should be a concern. I submit this here again. Well stated. http://www.meguiar.addr.com/end_times/muslim_takeover_of_europe.htm Blah blah, Islam is a religion of violence. http://www.juancole.com/2015/11/ten-ways-islamic-forbids-terrorism.htmlExcept it isn't. Christians use Deuteronomy amongst other things to justify a whole host of file acts. Don't try and pretend that Islam and Christianity are too sides of the same coin. Please, educate yourself on Islam. The history and nature of the Quran. Stop ignorantly dismissing the issue with a generic catch-all arguement. If you don't want to believe then don't, but don't try and argue a over a subject that you reject and are more than happy to be dismissive about. It leads nowhere.
What I linked quotes the Qu'ran. Maybe you should have read it jackass.
I'm dismissive of people like Islam is worse, when Christianity has the much higher running body count, and Western powers have spent the last 50 years pushing Islam to the extreme.
Wahhabism didn't get spread around on a whim, it was a policy decision by the West as part of their deal with the Saudis.
The West now reaps what it so happily sowed.
The Attorney General - Mr. Hybrid Vayu
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.15 00:30:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:benandjerrys wrote:Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church and State.
-Thomas Jefferson
Separation of church and state was the foundation of the United States of America. Mind you, many colonies were founded on the preface of religion. America is 2 different continents.
Im done with this bickering, innocent people died. You can flame the countries that react with aggression when their innocents are murdered but at least when they respond they attempt to in focused attempt to prevent collateral, while that collateral is their enemies primary prey. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. No, separation of church and state does not exist in e Constitution. That is a personal quote by Jefferson. The Bill of Rights states no law shall be made establishing a state religion. Also, note it says the free exercise thereof. That includes representatives of the U.S. government. Note I said representatives. The U.S. government is the people. There are many religious people in the U.S. and most are Christian. If Christians elect representatives who also believe or are willing to express that religion then they are so allowed. The people who are restricting rights are the atheists who want to enforce the myth of separation of church and state. To them it means to shut Christians up pure and simple.
MYTH: Separation of church and state is not in the U.S. Constitution.
FACT: It is true that the literal phrase "separation of church and state" does not appear in the Constitution, but that does not mean the concept isn't there. The First Amendment says:
Amendment I:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."
"We are the children of the Desolation."
One Scavenging Survivalist
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General Mosquito
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.11.15 00:32:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:benandjerrys wrote:Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church and State.
-Thomas Jefferson
Separation of church and state was the foundation of the United States of America. Mind you, many colonies were founded on the preface of religion. America is 2 different continents.
Im done with this bickering, innocent people died. You can flame the countries that react with aggression when their innocents are murdered but at least when they respond they attempt to in focused attempt to prevent collateral, while that collateral is their enemies primary prey. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. No, separation of church and state does not exist in e Constitution. That is a personal quote by Jefferson. The Bill of Rights states no law shall be made establishing a state religion. Also, note it says the free exercise thereof. That includes representatives of the U.S. government. Note I said representatives. The U.S. government is the people. There are many religious people in the U.S. and most are Christian. If Christians elect representatives who also believe or are willing to express that religion then they are so allowed. The people who are restricting rights are the atheists who want to enforce the myth of separation of church and state. To them it means to shut Christians up pure and simple.
Article 6 paragraph 3 of the U.S. Constitution would disagree with you.
The Attorney General - Mr. Hybrid Vayu
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Posted - 2015.11.15 00:36:00 -
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General Mosquito wrote:Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:General Mosquito wrote:Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:YUUKI TERUMI wrote:Religion is the most useless thing in the universe. Religion is dependent upon the basis of the belief. Not all religions are alike. Jesus never said to conquer people with violence. He didn't found a religion either, but the religion part is simply people following his teachings. People that use Christianity to harm are not justified by the basis of the belief, unlike Islam. There are a lot of good people that believe in God otherwise and are better for it. I am surrounded by people like that. People are fallible however, so you can't judge a belief based on the people. When the religion is more than a religion however, and directly states that its believers should convert by force there should be a concern. I submit this here again. Well stated. http://www.meguiar.addr.com/end_times/muslim_takeover_of_europe.htm Blah blah, Islam is a religion of violence. http://www.juancole.com/2015/11/ten-ways-islamic-forbids-terrorism.htmlExcept it isn't. Christians use Deuteronomy amongst other things to justify a whole host of file acts. Don't try and pretend that Islam and Christianity are too sides of the same coin. Please, educate yourself on Islam. The history and nature of the Quran. Stop ignorantly dismissing the issue with a generic catch-all arguement. If you don't want to believe then don't, but don't try and argue a over a subject that you reject and are more than happy to be dismissive about. It leads nowhere. What I linked quotes the Qu'ran. Maybe you should have read it jackass. I'm dismissive of people like Islam is worse, when Christianity has the much higher running body count, and Western powers have spent the last 50 years pushing Islam to the extreme. Wahhabism didn't get spread around on a whim, it was a policy decision by the West as part of their deal with the Saudis. The West now reaps what it so happily sowed.
Read the complete post. I was in the process of editing it. Also, I see I'm dealing with a name calling fool. So, I will leave the arguement there. Again though, you can't pass judgment on Christianity based on the actions of ignorant people that use it for nefarious purposes. Jesus even made a point about at sort of thing both about himself and the Pharisees, who enforced Jewish law legalistically.
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.15 00:41:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Religion is not issue, human mind is.
The truth,nothing but,we humans must unite to better our world,or die trying to fight over our differences.
We must sadly there is still some who like more be savages than united ones.
"We are the children of the Desolation."
One Scavenging Survivalist
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Shamarskii Simon
The Hundred Acre Hood
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Wait wait wait.
I don't want to say ISIS is really to blame... (this came to mind while reading this topic)
I'm just looking at another possibility.. Help me out here. Give me a lil slack.
One of them were Syrian right?
How many refugees are coming out of Syria?
Now... How many syrians are not able to enter a country/ taking "long" to get refugee status? Especially in the EU... which is next door? See what I'm getting at?
A small group of people might have taken matters in there own hands... Knowing ISIS likes to take responsibility for things they haven't done (E.G: ISIS saying they are responsible for the Russian Plane being "shot down" when it could not be destroyed by external means.) it might be everyone focusing on the wrong thing. It might be people being outraged by how they've been treated by foreign governments, so they bring their refugee reasons to these countries --Literally.
If they managed to reach any "main" country in the EU, they'd take the opportunity (The person left Greece and went into one of these "main" states of the EU: France.).
As someone else said, it might be Germany next... Not what the newspapers here been saying (Israel because they are surrounded by enemies, and they are closest to the issue)
Sadly, i don't have enough information to prove all of that but... I've been trying to look at this from a different vista... Just what if we're wrong? (I'm a process of elimination kinda guy lol)
Like if ISIS truly wanted to do something bad for everyone... They'd go for an oil refinery and hold that hostage... Now that would screw up the world for a few days/weeks... Probably months. I can't even try to predict what would happen (i basically just turned 17, i barely have 1st hand life experience)... Maybe a serious decline in the economy... Forced recession?
...Thankfully they don't take that into consideration. Hmm.
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General Mosquito wrote:Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:benandjerrys wrote:Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church and State.
-Thomas Jefferson
Separation of church and state was the foundation of the United States of America. Mind you, many colonies were founded on the preface of religion. America is 2 different continents.
Im done with this bickering, innocent people died. You can flame the countries that react with aggression when their innocents are murdered but at least when they respond they attempt to in focused attempt to prevent collateral, while that collateral is their enemies primary prey. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. No, separation of church and state does not exist in e Constitution. That is a personal quote by Jefferson. The Bill of Rights states no law shall be made establishing a state religion. Also, note it says the free exercise thereof. That includes representatives of the U.S. government. Note I said representatives. The U.S. government is the people. There are many religious people in the U.S. and most are Christian. If Christians elect representatives who also believe or are willing to express that religion then they are so allowed. The people who are restricting rights are the atheists who want to enforce the myth of separation of church and state. To them it means to shut Christians up pure and simple. Article 6 paragraph 3 of the U.S. Constitution would disagree with you.
Lol, that still doesn't apply. No religious test has been ever been given. If enough people vote for a muslim then he shall be sworn in on the Quran or if we elect a person willing to admit atheism then he can swear an oath on thin air. Mind you though, he will swear an oath to properly represent his office.
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:General Mosquito wrote:
What I linked quotes the Qu'ran. Maybe you should have read it jackass.
I'm dismissive of people like Islam is worse, when Christianity has the much higher running body count, and Western powers have spent the last 50 years pushing Islam to the extreme.
Wahhabism didn't get spread around on a whim, it was a policy decision by the West as part of their deal with the Saudis.
The West now reaps what it so happily sowed.
Read the complete post. I was in the process of editing it. Also, I see I'm dealing with a name calling fool. So, I will leave the arguement there. Again though, you can't pass judgment on Christianity based on the actions of ignorant people that use it for nefarious purposes. Jesus even made a point about at sort of thing both about himself and the Pharisees, who enforced Jewish law legalistically.
So what, you exempt bible thumping terrorists, but not Islamic ones?
The amount of hypocrisy and your attempted derision are laughable.
I can and will condemn Christian extremists just as roundly as I condemn Islamic ones. I don't pretend that one is any less violent than the other, because they are not.
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Posted - 2015.11.15 00:46:00 -
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General Mosquito wrote:Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:General Mosquito wrote:
What I linked quotes the Qu'ran. Maybe you should have read it jackass.
I'm dismissive of people like Islam is worse, when Christianity has the much higher running body count, and Western powers have spent the last 50 years pushing Islam to the extreme.
Wahhabism didn't get spread around on a whim, it was a policy decision by the West as part of their deal with the Saudis.
The West now reaps what it so happily sowed.
Read the complete post. I was in the process of editing it. Also, I see I'm dealing with a name calling fool. So, I will leave the arguement there. Again though, you can't pass judgment on Christianity based on the actions of ignorant people that use it for nefarious purposes. Jesus even made a point about at sort of thing both about himself and the Pharisees, who enforced Jewish law legalistically. So what, you exempt bible thumping terrorists, but not Islamic ones? The amount of hypocrisy and your attempted derision are laughable. I can and will condemn Christian extremists just as roundly as I condemn Islamic ones. I don't pretend that one is any less violent than the other, because they are not.
You haven't read a word I wrote did you? That is not what I have stated. AT ALL. lol. Also, confrontation gets you nowhere.
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Posted - 2015.11.15 00:49:00 -
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Shamarskii Simon wrote:Wait wait wait.
I don't want to say ISIS is really to blame... (this came to mind while reading this topic)
I'm just looking at another possibility.. Help me out here. Give me a lil slack.
One of them were Syrian right?
How many refugees are coming out of Syria?
Now... How many syrians are not able to enter a country/ taking "long" to get refugee status? Especially in the EU... which is next door? See what I'm getting at?
A small group of people might have taken matters in there own hands... Knowing ISIS likes to take responsibility for things they haven't done (E.G: ISIS saying they are responsible for the Russian Plane being "shot down" when it could not be destroyed by external means.) it might be everyone focusing on the wrong thing. It might be people being outraged by how they've been treated by foreign governments, so they bring their refugee reasons to these countries --Literally.
If they managed to reach any "main" country in the EU, they'd take the opportunity (The person left Greece and went into one of these "main" states of the EU: France.).
As someone else said, it might be Germany next... Not what the newspapers here been saying (Israel because they are surrounded by enemies, and they are closest to the issue)
Sadly, i don't have enough information to prove all of that but... I've been trying to look at this from a different vista... Just what if we're wrong? (I'm a process of elimination kinda guy lol)
Like if ISIS truly wanted to do something bad for everyone... They'd go for an oil refinery and hold that hostage... Now that would screw up the world for a few days/weeks... Probably months. I can't even try to predict what would happen (i basically just turned 17, i barely have 1st hand life experience)... Maybe a serious decline in the economy... Forced recession?
...Thankfully they don't take that into consideration. Hmm.
If there will be anither atacks it will be propably again in France or possibly in England (they have big amount of orthodox supporters too).
Germany hmm i do not think so, they have great amount of trurkish people, but they are not too orthodox about religion.
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Posted - 2015.11.15 00:51:00 -
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General Mosquito wrote:Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:General Mosquito wrote:
What I linked quotes the Qu'ran. Maybe you should have read it jackass.
I'm dismissive of people like Islam is worse, when Christianity has the much higher running body count, and Western powers have spent the last 50 years pushing Islam to the extreme.
Wahhabism didn't get spread around on a whim, it was a policy decision by the West as part of their deal with the Saudis.
The West now reaps what it so happily sowed.
Read the complete post. I was in the process of editing it. Also, I see I'm dealing with a name calling fool. So, I will leave the arguement there. Again though, you can't pass judgment on Christianity based on the actions of ignorant people that use it for nefarious purposes. Jesus even made a point about at sort of thing both about himself and the Pharisees, who enforced Jewish law legalistically. So what, you exempt bible thumping terrorists, but not Islamic ones? The amount of hypocrisy and your attempted derision are laughable. I can and will condemn Christian extremists just as roundly as I condemn Islamic ones. I don't pretend that one is any less violent than the other, because they are not.
This is the SOURCE of problems within religion.
Religion builds up walls amongst people, not tear them down.
Religion be religion. Believe in whatever one likes
Just free your mind... The only oppression that happens comes from within oneself. It's senseless putting religion a to religion b because there's no correct answer.
Yu feel?
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postapo wastelander wrote:Shamarskii Simon wrote:Wait wait wait.
I don't want to say ISIS is really to blame... (this came to mind while reading this topic)
I'm just looking at another possibility.. Help me out here. Give me a lil slack.
One of them were Syrian right?
How many refugees are coming out of Syria?
Now... How many syrians are not able to enter a country/ taking "long" to get refugee status? Especially in the EU... which is next door? See what I'm getting at?
A small group of people might have taken matters in there own hands... Knowing ISIS likes to take responsibility for things they haven't done (E.G: ISIS saying they are responsible for the Russian Plane being "shot down" when it could not be destroyed by external means.) it might be everyone focusing on the wrong thing. It might be people being outraged by how they've been treated by foreign governments, so they bring their refugee reasons to these countries --Literally.
If they managed to reach any "main" country in the EU, they'd take the opportunity (The person left Greece and went into one of these "main" states of the EU: France.).
As someone else said, it might be Germany next... Not what the newspapers here been saying (Israel because they are surrounded by enemies, and they are closest to the issue)
Sadly, i don't have enough information to prove all of that but... I've been trying to look at this from a different vista... Just what if we're wrong? (I'm a process of elimination kinda guy lol)
Like if ISIS truly wanted to do something bad for everyone... They'd go for an oil refinery and hold that hostage... Now that would screw up the world for a few days/weeks... Probably months. I can't even try to predict what would happen (i basically just turned 17, i barely have 1st hand life experience)... Maybe a serious decline in the economy... Forced recession?
...Thankfully they don't take that into consideration. Hmm.
If there will be anither atacks it will be propably again in France or possibly in England (they have big amount of orthodox supporters too). Germany hmm i do not think so, they have great amount of trurkish people, but they are not too orthodox about religion.
Lol, I remember my German teacher talking about Turkish immigrants. She talked about how they'd just start a knife fight right there in the street when they had a disagreement. Guess, we won't have to worry about bombings or terror attacks from them. They do things the old fashion wayGǪ by dueling.
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Shamarskii Simon wrote:Wait wait wait.
I don't want to say ISIS is really to blame... (this came to mind while reading this topic)
I'm just looking at another possibility.. Help me out here. Give me a lil slack.
One of them were Syrian right?
How many refugees are coming out of Syria?
Now... How many syrians are not able to enter a country/ taking "long" to get refugee status? Especially in the EU... which is next door? See what I'm getting at?
A small group of people might have taken matters in there own hands... Knowing ISIS likes to take responsibility for things they haven't done (E.G: ISIS saying they are responsible for the Russian Plane being "shot down" when it could not be destroyed by external means.) it might be everyone focusing on the wrong thing. It might be people being outraged by how they've been treated by foreign governments, so they bring their refugee reasons to these countries --Literally.
If they managed to reach any "main" country in the EU, they'd take the opportunity (The person left Greece and went into one of these "main" states of the EU: France.).
As someone else said, it might be Germany next... Not what the newspapers here been saying (Israel because they are surrounded by enemies, and they are closest to the issue)
Sadly, i don't have enough information to prove all of that but... I've been trying to look at this from a different vista... Just what if we're wrong? (I'm a process of elimination kinda guy lol)
Like if ISIS truly wanted to do something bad for everyone... They'd go for an oil refinery and hold that hostage... Now that would screw up the world for a few days/weeks... Probably months. I can't even try to predict what would happen (i basically just turned 17, i barely have 1st hand life experience)... Maybe a serious decline in the economy... Forced recession?
...Thankfully they don't take that into consideration. Hmm.
ISIS has control of oil things and sells it for profit.
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Corrosive Synergy
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Posted - 2015.11.15 00:54:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Shamarskii Simon wrote:Wait wait wait.
I don't want to say ISIS is really to blame... (this came to mind while reading this topic)
I'm just looking at another possibility.. Help me out here. Give me a lil slack.
One of them were Syrian right?
How many refugees are coming out of Syria?
Now... How many syrians are not able to enter a country/ taking "long" to get refugee status? Especially in the EU... which is next door? See what I'm getting at?
A small group of people might have taken matters in there own hands... Knowing ISIS likes to take responsibility for things they haven't done (E.G: ISIS saying they are responsible for the Russian Plane being "shot down" when it could not be destroyed by external means.) it might be everyone focusing on the wrong thing. It might be people being outraged by how they've been treated by foreign governments, so they bring their refugee reasons to these countries --Literally.
If they managed to reach any "main" country in the EU, they'd take the opportunity (The person left Greece and went into one of these "main" states of the EU: France.).
As someone else said, it might be Germany next... Not what the newspapers here been saying (Israel because they are surrounded by enemies, and they are closest to the issue)
Sadly, i don't have enough information to prove all of that but... I've been trying to look at this from a different vista... Just what if we're wrong? (I'm a process of elimination kinda guy lol)
Like if ISIS truly wanted to do something bad for everyone... They'd go for an oil refinery and hold that hostage... Now that would screw up the world for a few days/weeks... Probably months. I can't even try to predict what would happen (i basically just turned 17, i barely have 1st hand life experience)... Maybe a serious decline in the economy... Forced recession?
...Thankfully they don't take that into consideration. Hmm.
If there will be anither atacks it will be propably again in France or possibly in England (they have big amount of orthodox supporters too). Germany hmm i do not think so, they have great amount of trurkish people, but they are not too orthodox about religion. Lol, I remember my German teacher talking about Turkish immigrants. She talked about how they'd just start a knife fight right there in the street when they had a disagreement. Guess, we won't have to worry about bombings or terror attacks from them. They do things the old fashion wayGǪ by dueling.
Pfft they are traders by nature, they will propably buy you out XD
I know them really much.
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Posted - 2015.11.15 00:55:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:Shamarskii Simon wrote:Wait wait wait.
I don't want to say ISIS is really to blame... (this came to mind while reading this topic)
I'm just looking at another possibility.. Help me out here. Give me a lil slack.
One of them were Syrian right?
How many refugees are coming out of Syria?
Now... How many syrians are not able to enter a country/ taking "long" to get refugee status? Especially in the EU... which is next door? See what I'm getting at?
A small group of people might have taken matters in there own hands... Knowing ISIS likes to take responsibility for things they haven't done (E.G: ISIS saying they are responsible for the Russian Plane being "shot down" when it could not be destroyed by external means.) it might be everyone focusing on the wrong thing. It might be people being outraged by how they've been treated by foreign governments, so they bring their refugee reasons to these countries --Literally.
If they managed to reach any "main" country in the EU, they'd take the opportunity (The person left Greece and went into one of these "main" states of the EU: France.).
As someone else said, it might be Germany next... Not what the newspapers here been saying (Israel because they are surrounded by enemies, and they are closest to the issue)
Sadly, i don't have enough information to prove all of that but... I've been trying to look at this from a different vista... Just what if we're wrong? (I'm a process of elimination kinda guy lol)
Like if ISIS truly wanted to do something bad for everyone... They'd go for an oil refinery and hold that hostage... Now that would screw up the world for a few days/weeks... Probably months. I can't even try to predict what would happen (i basically just turned 17, i barely have 1st hand life experience)... Maybe a serious decline in the economy... Forced recession?
...Thankfully they don't take that into consideration. Hmm.
If there will be anither atacks it will be propably again in France or possibly in England (they have big amount of orthodox supporters too). Germany hmm i do not think so, they have great amount of trurkish people, but they are not too orthodox about religion.
Hmm... France, England, Germany... Spain, Italy?
....
I see what you mean.. Then it'll be Italy or England or France based on religion i think.
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It is not by religion, they do not care about religion.
It is about amount of orthodox groups in state already.
And biggest amount is in France and England.
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Posted - 2015.11.15 00:58:00 -
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F*ck religious comparisons.
This is murder, an act forbidden by law.
Further, it is mass murder carried out in military fashion with intent to attack the fundamental rights and privileges enjoyed by the french.
In other times this would be declared an act of war.
It may have been done ostensibly for religious reasons. It may be the west is "reaping what it has sown."
These insurgent bastards are murderers. They are undeclared, un-uniformed enemy combatants on french soil. Screw the religious connotations, justifications and the bs.
An attack is an attack is an attack. Now the question is, will the french be the first to bring this sh*t to a screeching halt and actually take off the kid gloves?
All smartass jokes about the french at war aside, the french aren't lightweights when they don't have a sudden bumrush of ten tank divisions bombing across the country from a (theoretically) non-hostile neighbor.
If the french government acts, this isn't going to be a debate about christians versus muslims. It's going to be a sovereign nation retaliating against a rogue would-be nation fostering insurgency and murder within her borders.
It may be religious to the terrorists, but to the regular soldiers, it's just another fu**ing meatgrinder. It won't matter who the bad guys pray to at the end of the day.
Question remains: who says "screw it, no more playing nice" first?
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postapo wastelander wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:The most successful tactics the insurgent groups utilize is aggressive local recruitment.
I'm willing to bet they plan this **** for years until they can go over it by the numbers in their sleep. I was really out of this problem, but after this attack my first thing in mind was basicaly "nuke them". Honestly i know there is still people in place where are they, but if you ask me i will be for carpet attacks, supported by surgical strikes 24/7. This is enough. Im for people, for equality etc. But enought is enough.
those were my first thoughts to after attacking france i am for nuclear retaliation
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General Mosquito wrote:Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:YUUKI TERUMI wrote:Religion is the most useless thing in the universe. Religion is dependent upon the basis of the belief. Not all religions are alike. Jesus never said to conquer people with violence. He didn't found a religion either, but the religion part is simply people following his teachings. People that use Christianity to harm are not justified by the basis of the belief, unlike Islam. There are a lot of good people that believe in God otherwise and are better for it. I am surrounded by people like that. People are fallible however, so you can't judge a belief based on the people. When the religion is more than a religion however, and directly states that its believers should convert by force there should be a concern. I submit this here again. Well stated. http://www.meguiar.addr.com/end_times/muslim_takeover_of_europe.htm Blah blah, Islam is a religion of violence. http://www.juancole.com/2015/11/ten-ways-islamic-forbids-terrorism.htmlExcept it isn't. Christians use Deuteronomy amongst other things to justify a whole host of file acts. Don't try and pretend that Islam and Christianity are too sides of the same coin.
Agree with Mosquito
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postapo wastelander wrote:It is not by religion, they do not care about religion.
It is about amount of orthodox groups in state already.
And biggest amount is in France and England.
Hmm? Care to explain for me?
I was thinking like "orthodox church," so I must be wrong lol.
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Breakin Stuff wrote:F*ck religious comparisons.
This is murder, an act forbidden by law.
Further, it is mass murder carried out in military fashion with intent to attack the fundamental rights and privileges enjoyed by the french.
In other times this would be declared an act of war.
It may have been done ostensibly for religious reasons. It may be the west is "reaping what it has sown."
These insurgent bastards are murderers. They are undeclared, un-uniformed enemy combatants on french soil. Screw the religious connotations, justifications and the bs.
An attack is an attack is an attack. Now the question is, will the french be the first to bring this sh*t to a screeching halt and actually take off the kid gloves?
All smartass jokes about the french at war aside, the french aren't lightweights when they don't have a sudden bumrush of ten tank divisions bombing across the country from a (theoretically) non-hostile neighbor.
If the french government acts, this isn't going to be a debate about christians versus muslims. It's going to be a sovereign nation retaliating against a rogue would-be nation fostering insurgency and murder within her borders.
It may be religious to the terrorists, but to the regular soldiers, it's just another fu**ing meatgrinder. It won't matter who the bad guys pray to at the end of the day.
Question remains: who says "screw it, no more playing nice" first?
i think we should all take the kids gloves off idc that this attack was on the french people an attack on France is an attack on america and all the allied countries should retaliate and we should all take the kids gloves off ESPECIALLY US AMERICANS
we should be using this slaughter as an excuse to make an example out of them using it as an excuse for all out warfare hit them so hard so fast that they NEVER ever again think that they can get away with this **** again....idc if civilians get caught in the cross fire guess what 150 french civilians were just murdered. and some of them i knew (which i just found out a few hours ago i lost people i love in this,....i want the middle east to bleed for this i want it to burn
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Mortedeamor wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:The most successful tactics the insurgent groups utilize is aggressive local recruitment.
I'm willing to bet they plan this **** for years until they can go over it by the numbers in their sleep. I was really out of this problem, but after this attack my first thing in mind was basicaly "nuke them". Honestly i know there is still people in place where are they, but if you ask me i will be for carpet attacks, supported by surgical strikes 24/7. This is enough. Im for people, for equality etc. But enought is enough. those were my first thoughts to after attacking france i am for nuclear retaliation
Because if you know and you see, you must act.
Just some interesting photos:
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:General Mosquito wrote:Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:YUUKI TERUMI wrote:Religion is the most useless thing in the universe. Religion is dependent upon the basis of the belief. Not all religions are alike. Jesus never said to conquer people with violence. He didn't found a religion either, but the religion part is simply people following his teachings. People that use Christianity to harm are not justified by the basis of the belief, unlike Islam. There are a lot of good people that believe in God otherwise and are better for it. I am surrounded by people like that. People are fallible however, so you can't judge a belief based on the people. When the religion is more than a religion however, and directly states that its believers should convert by force there should be a concern. I submit this here again. Well stated. http://www.meguiar.addr.com/end_times/muslim_takeover_of_europe.htm Blah blah, Islam is a religion of violence. http://www.juancole.com/2015/11/ten-ways-islamic-forbids-terrorism.htmlExcept it isn't. Christians use Deuteronomy amongst other things to justify a whole host of file acts. Don't try and pretend that Islam and Christianity are too sides of the same coin. Please, educate yourself on Islam. The history and nature of the Quran. Stop ignorantly dismissing the issue with a generic catch-all arguement. If you don't want to believe then don't, but don't try and argue a over a subject that you reject and are more than happy to be dismissive about. It leads nowhere. Again, old testament taken from Jewish history and belief the interpretation by misguided people using Christianity as a basis for oppression is not justified by Jesus nor many Christians. Remember, Christians are supposed to only follow Jesus. There is a good reason for that. Case in point, your statement. Muslims, regardless of attitude about conquest and oppression are commanded by their belief to do so. It is simply a matter of them wanting to concern themselves with it. Remember, Islam is not just he Quran, but the Hadith and the will and history as example of the historical person of Mohammad. He was a killer and conquerer.
i have whip marks on my back scars that will be there forever it was a christian man who put them there...in the name of god...christian commit just as vile acts they just dont go around CURRENTLY committing mass murder religion can be used for extreme good it can also be used for extreme evil thus is the nature of religion ..it truly is not the religions fault though its the peoples..just because jesus was a peaceful man doesnt mean people dont commit vile acts in his name...it is just less common than muslims for reasons already stated..the muslim religion is just more dangerous than Christianity they are both dangerous they both have the power to be abused
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General Mosquito wrote:Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:General Mosquito wrote:
What I linked quotes the Qu'ran. Maybe you should have read it jackass.
I'm dismissive of people like Islam is worse, when Christianity has the much higher running body count, and Western powers have spent the last 50 years pushing Islam to the extreme.
Wahhabism didn't get spread around on a whim, it was a policy decision by the West as part of their deal with the Saudis.
The West now reaps what it so happily sowed.
Read the complete post. I was in the process of editing it. Also, I see I'm dealing with a name calling fool. So, I will leave the arguement there. Again though, you can't pass judgment on Christianity based on the actions of ignorant people that use it for nefarious purposes. Jesus even made a point about at sort of thing both about himself and the Pharisees, who enforced Jewish law legalistically. So what, you exempt bible thumping terrorists, but not Islamic ones? The amount of hypocrisy and your attempted derision are laughable. I can and will condemn Christian extremists just as roundly as I condemn Islamic ones. I don't pretend that one is any less violent than the other, because they are not.
Extreme religion is the extreme following of a religion. Extreme Christianity is showing love to everybody and share the gospel. Extreme Islam in my opinion is be kind to insiders but press more forcibly on others. I'm not muslim so I don't know all the inside stuff.
I do know however that there is in muslim teaching, verses that clearly state to kill unbelievers and force them to submit and accept allah. As for your quotes clearly stating not to murder and stuff, I think that would be a more inside thing.
I saw a post one time saying that the muslims who say Islam is a religion of peace are the ones who only carry it as a title and don't really practice it, like a lot of christians on the west. Now, with my version of extreme religion this kind of makes sense, not all Christians are extremists and don't practice all of the bibles teachings, maybe they curse or don't really do anything, like a lot of Christians I know.. Therefore, not all muslims are extremists, not all muslims go around threatening to kill people if the don't convert, some pick out the good bits and some just carry the title, like every muslim I know. Some people from both religions are misguided and do things the religion doesn't promote. No one is perfect, hypocrisy is impossible to avoid in any organization.
I dont want to get into this forum argument so i won't reply to questions other than clarification.
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postapo wastelander wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:The most successful tactics the insurgent groups utilize is aggressive local recruitment.
I'm willing to bet they plan this **** for years until they can go over it by the numbers in their sleep. I was really out of this problem, but after this attack my first thing in mind was basicaly "nuke them". Honestly i know there is still people in place where are they, but if you ask me i will be for carpet attacks, supported by surgical strikes 24/7. This is enough. Im for people, for equality etc. But enought is enough. those were my first thoughts to after attacking france i am for nuclear retaliation Because if you know and you see, you must act. Just some interesting photos: AfganistanIran
no its not that its because its personal now i lost family in France
honestly they could all be wearing crucifixes and it would be no different in my mind...i just had a loved one killed in the name of religion
ps if my assaults hurt a lil extra tonight its because im ******* PISSED
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Mortedeamor wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:F*ck religious comparisons.
This is murder, an act forbidden by law.
Further, it is mass murder carried out in military fashion with intent to attack the fundamental rights and privileges enjoyed by the french.
In other times this would be declared an act of war.
It may have been done ostensibly for religious reasons. It may be the west is "reaping what it has sown."
These insurgent bastards are murderers. They are undeclared, un-uniformed enemy combatants on french soil. Screw the religious connotations, justifications and the bs.
An attack is an attack is an attack. Now the question is, will the french be the first to bring this sh*t to a screeching halt and actually take off the kid gloves?
All smartass jokes about the french at war aside, the french aren't lightweights when they don't have a sudden bumrush of ten tank divisions bombing across the country from a (theoretically) non-hostile neighbor.
If the french government acts, this isn't going to be a debate about christians versus muslims. It's going to be a sovereign nation retaliating against a rogue would-be nation fostering insurgency and murder within her borders.
It may be religious to the terrorists, but to the regular soldiers, it's just another fu**ing meatgrinder. It won't matter who the bad guys pray to at the end of the day.
Question remains: who says "screw it, no more playing nice" first? i think we should all take the kids gloves off idc that this attack was on the french people an attack on France is an attack on america and all the allied countries should retaliate and we should all take the kids gloves off ESPECIALLY US AMERICANS we should be using this slaughter as an excuse to make an example out of them using it as an excuse for all out warfare hit them so hard so fast that they NEVER ever again think that they can get away with this **** again....idc if civilians get caught in the cross fire guess what 150 french civilians were just murdered. and some of them i knew (which i just found out a few hours ago i lost people i love in this,....i want the middle east to bleed for this i want it to burn
Yeah we saw how that went with Nixon in Vietnam... "We're going to bomb them to the stone age"
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Forever ETC wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:F*ck religious comparisons.
This is murder, an act forbidden by law.
Further, it is mass murder carried out in military fashion with intent to attack the fundamental rights and privileges enjoyed by the french.
In other times this would be declared an act of war.
It may have been done ostensibly for religious reasons. It may be the west is "reaping what it has sown."
These insurgent bastards are murderers. They are undeclared, un-uniformed enemy combatants on french soil. Screw the religious connotations, justifications and the bs.
An attack is an attack is an attack. Now the question is, will the french be the first to bring this sh*t to a screeching halt and actually take off the kid gloves?
All smartass jokes about the french at war aside, the french aren't lightweights when they don't have a sudden bumrush of ten tank divisions bombing across the country from a (theoretically) non-hostile neighbor.
If the french government acts, this isn't going to be a debate about christians versus muslims. It's going to be a sovereign nation retaliating against a rogue would-be nation fostering insurgency and murder within her borders.
It may be religious to the terrorists, but to the regular soldiers, it's just another fu**ing meatgrinder. It won't matter who the bad guys pray to at the end of the day.
Question remains: who says "screw it, no more playing nice" first? i think we should all take the kids gloves off idc that this attack was on the french people an attack on France is an attack on america and all the allied countries should retaliate and we should all take the kids gloves off ESPECIALLY US AMERICANS we should be using this slaughter as an excuse to make an example out of them using it as an excuse for all out warfare hit them so hard so fast that they NEVER ever again think that they can get away with this **** again....idc if civilians get caught in the cross fire guess what 150 french civilians were just murdered. and some of them i knew (which i just found out a few hours ago i lost people i love in this,....i want the middle east to bleed for this i want it to burn Yeah we saw how that went with Nixon in Vietnam... "We're going to bomb them to the stone age"
yeah but this is 2015 and we actually can bomb them into the stone age without ever setting foot in the land
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Forever ETC wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:F*ck religious comparisons.
This is murder, an act forbidden by law.
Further, it is mass murder carried out in military fashion with intent to attack the fundamental rights and privileges enjoyed by the french.
In other times this would be declared an act of war.
It may have been done ostensibly for religious reasons. It may be the west is "reaping what it has sown."
These insurgent bastards are murderers. They are undeclared, un-uniformed enemy combatants on french soil. Screw the religious connotations, justifications and the bs.
An attack is an attack is an attack. Now the question is, will the french be the first to bring this sh*t to a screeching halt and actually take off the kid gloves?
All smartass jokes about the french at war aside, the french aren't lightweights when they don't have a sudden bumrush of ten tank divisions bombing across the country from a (theoretically) non-hostile neighbor.
If the french government acts, this isn't going to be a debate about christians versus muslims. It's going to be a sovereign nation retaliating against a rogue would-be nation fostering insurgency and murder within her borders.
It may be religious to the terrorists, but to the regular soldiers, it's just another fu**ing meatgrinder. It won't matter who the bad guys pray to at the end of the day.
Question remains: who says "screw it, no more playing nice" first? i think we should all take the kids gloves off idc that this attack was on the french people an attack on France is an attack on america and all the allied countries should retaliate and we should all take the kids gloves off ESPECIALLY US AMERICANS we should be using this slaughter as an excuse to make an example out of them using it as an excuse for all out warfare hit them so hard so fast that they NEVER ever again think that they can get away with this **** again....idc if civilians get caught in the cross fire guess what 150 french civilians were just murdered. and some of them i knew (which i just found out a few hours ago i lost people i love in this,....i want the middle east to bleed for this i want it to burn Yeah we saw how that went with Nixon in Vietnam... "We're going to bomb them to the stone age"
That was in a jungle. The middle east is pretty much a field with cities. Easier to aim. Also this is 40ish years later. Better tech.
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PLAYSTTION wrote:Forever ETC wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:F*ck religious comparisons.
This is murder, an act forbidden by law.
Further, it is mass murder carried out in military fashion with intent to attack the fundamental rights and privileges enjoyed by the french.
In other times this would be declared an act of war.
It may have been done ostensibly for religious reasons. It may be the west is "reaping what it has sown."
These insurgent bastards are murderers. They are undeclared, un-uniformed enemy combatants on french soil. Screw the religious connotations, justifications and the bs.
An attack is an attack is an attack. Now the question is, will the french be the first to bring this sh*t to a screeching halt and actually take off the kid gloves?
All smartass jokes about the french at war aside, the french aren't lightweights when they don't have a sudden bumrush of ten tank divisions bombing across the country from a (theoretically) non-hostile neighbor.
If the french government acts, this isn't going to be a debate about christians versus muslims. It's going to be a sovereign nation retaliating against a rogue would-be nation fostering insurgency and murder within her borders.
It may be religious to the terrorists, but to the regular soldiers, it's just another fu**ing meatgrinder. It won't matter who the bad guys pray to at the end of the day.
Question remains: who says "screw it, no more playing nice" first? i think we should all take the kids gloves off idc that this attack was on the french people an attack on France is an attack on america and all the allied countries should retaliate and we should all take the kids gloves off ESPECIALLY US AMERICANS we should be using this slaughter as an excuse to make an example out of them using it as an excuse for all out warfare hit them so hard so fast that they NEVER ever again think that they can get away with this **** again....idc if civilians get caught in the cross fire guess what 150 french civilians were just murdered. and some of them i knew (which i just found out a few hours ago i lost people i love in this,....i want the middle east to bleed for this i want it to burn Yeah we saw how that went with Nixon in Vietnam... "We're going to bomb them to the stone age" That was in a jungle. The middle east is pretty much a field with cities. Easier to aim. Also this is 40ish years later. Better tech.
exactly lets just reroute some of those icbms pointed at russia to the middle east ...while we are at it we should send some painters in to paint vive la france on those missiles before we send them in
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Mortedeamor wrote:Forever ETC wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:F*ck religious comparisons.
This is murder, an act forbidden by law.
Further, it is mass murder carried out in military fashion with intent to attack the fundamental rights and privileges enjoyed by the french.
In other times this would be declared an act of war.
It may have been done ostensibly for religious reasons. It may be the west is "reaping what it has sown."
These insurgent bastards are murderers. They are undeclared, un-uniformed enemy combatants on french soil. Screw the religious connotations, justifications and the bs.
An attack is an attack is an attack. Now the question is, will the french be the first to bring this sh*t to a screeching halt and actually take off the kid gloves?
All smartass jokes about the french at war aside, the french aren't lightweights when they don't have a sudden bumrush of ten tank divisions bombing across the country from a (theoretically) non-hostile neighbor.
If the french government acts, this isn't going to be a debate about christians versus muslims. It's going to be a sovereign nation retaliating against a rogue would-be nation fostering insurgency and murder within her borders.
It may be religious to the terrorists, but to the regular soldiers, it's just another fu**ing meatgrinder. It won't matter who the bad guys pray to at the end of the day.
Question remains: who says "screw it, no more playing nice" first? i think we should all take the kids gloves off idc that this attack was on the french people an attack on France is an attack on america and all the allied countries should retaliate and we should all take the kids gloves off ESPECIALLY US AMERICANS we should be using this slaughter as an excuse to make an example out of them using it as an excuse for all out warfare hit them so hard so fast that they NEVER ever again think that they can get away with this **** again....idc if civilians get caught in the cross fire guess what 150 french civilians were just murdered. and some of them i knew (which i just found out a few hours ago i lost people i love in this,....i want the middle east to bleed for this i want it to burn Yeah we saw how that went with Nixon in Vietnam... "We're going to bomb them to the stone age" yeah but this is 2015 and we actually can bomb them into the stone age without ever setting foot in the land
We can but we won't... I don't see that happening anytime soon, especially with the backlash the U.S got for bombing that hospital of Doctors Without Borders. Imagine now purposely bombing all of ISIS/Extremist held ground in the Middle East... They may be bad but there are still humans in that occupied area who can't get out. If we start releasing mass amounts of nukes in that area we will have more blood in our hands than they ever had. Congratulations you eliminated a terrorist organization and killed millions, another one will rise again with even more hatred.
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Mortedeamor wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:Forever ETC wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:F*ck religious comparisons.
This is murder, an act forbidden by law.
Further, it is mass murder carried out in military fashion with intent to attack the fundamental rights and privileges enjoyed by the french.
In other times this would be declared an act of war.
It may have been done ostensibly for religious reasons. It may be the west is "reaping what it has sown."
These insurgent bastards are murderers. They are undeclared, un-uniformed enemy combatants on french soil. Screw the religious connotations, justifications and the bs.
An attack is an attack is an attack. Now the question is, will the french be the first to bring this sh*t to a screeching halt and actually take off the kid gloves?
All smartass jokes about the french at war aside, the french aren't lightweights when they don't have a sudden bumrush of ten tank divisions bombing across the country from a (theoretically) non-hostile neighbor.
If the french government acts, this isn't going to be a debate about christians versus muslims. It's going to be a sovereign nation retaliating against a rogue would-be nation fostering insurgency and murder within her borders.
It may be religious to the terrorists, but to the regular soldiers, it's just another fu**ing meatgrinder. It won't matter who the bad guys pray to at the end of the day.
Question remains: who says "screw it, no more playing nice" first? i think we should all take the kids gloves off idc that this attack was on the french people an attack on France is an attack on america and all the allied countries should retaliate and we should all take the kids gloves off ESPECIALLY US AMERICANS we should be using this slaughter as an excuse to make an example out of them using it as an excuse for all out warfare hit them so hard so fast that they NEVER ever again think that they can get away with this **** again....idc if civilians get caught in the cross fire guess what 150 french civilians were just murdered. and some of them i knew (which i just found out a few hours ago i lost people i love in this,....i want the middle east to bleed for this i want it to burn Yeah we saw how that went with Nixon in Vietnam... "We're going to bomb them to the stone age" That was in a jungle. The middle east is pretty much a field with cities. Easier to aim. Also this is 40ish years later. Better tech. exactly lets just reroute some of those icbms pointed at russia to the middle east ...while we are at it we should send some painters in to paint vive la france on those missiles before we send them in
lol get CIA to secretly get North Korea to nuke middle east to make friends with other countries.
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Forever ETC wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Forever ETC wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:F*ck religious comparisons.
This is murder, an act forbidden by law.
Further, it is mass murder carried out in military fashion with intent to attack the fundamental rights and privileges enjoyed by the french.
In other times this would be declared an act of war.
It may have been done ostensibly for religious reasons. It may be the west is "reaping what it has sown."
These insurgent bastards are murderers. They are undeclared, un-uniformed enemy combatants on french soil. Screw the religious connotations, justifications and the bs.
An attack is an attack is an attack. Now the question is, will the french be the first to bring this sh*t to a screeching halt and actually take off the kid gloves?
All smartass jokes about the french at war aside, the french aren't lightweights when they don't have a sudden bumrush of ten tank divisions bombing across the country from a (theoretically) non-hostile neighbor.
If the french government acts, this isn't going to be a debate about christians versus muslims. It's going to be a sovereign nation retaliating against a rogue would-be nation fostering insurgency and murder within her borders.
It may be religious to the terrorists, but to the regular soldiers, it's just another fu**ing meatgrinder. It won't matter who the bad guys pray to at the end of the day.
Question remains: who says "screw it, no more playing nice" first? i think we should all take the kids gloves off idc that this attack was on the french people an attack on France is an attack on america and all the allied countries should retaliate and we should all take the kids gloves off ESPECIALLY US AMERICANS we should be using this slaughter as an excuse to make an example out of them using it as an excuse for all out warfare hit them so hard so fast that they NEVER ever again think that they can get away with this **** again....idc if civilians get caught in the cross fire guess what 150 french civilians were just murdered. and some of them i knew (which i just found out a few hours ago i lost people i love in this,....i want the middle east to bleed for this i want it to burn Yeah we saw how that went with Nixon in Vietnam... "We're going to bomb them to the stone age" yeah but this is 2015 and we actually can bomb them into the stone age without ever setting foot in the land We can but we won't... I don't see that happening anytime soon, especially with the backlash the U.S got for bombing that hospital of Doctors Without Borders. Imagine now purposely bombing all of ISIS/Extremist held ground in the Middle East... They may be bad but there are still humans in that occupied area who can't get out. If we start releasing mass amounts of nukes in that area we will have more blood in our hands than they ever had. Congratulations you eliminated a terrorist organization and killed millions, another one will rise again with even more hatred.
we got away with it with japan im sure we can find a way to get away with it with them
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Shamarskii Simon wrote:Wait wait wait.
I don't want to say ISIS is really to blame... (this came to mind while reading this topic)
I'm just looking at another possibility.. Help me out here. Give me a lil slack.
One of them were Syrian right?
How many refugees are coming out of Syria?
Now... How many syrians are not able to enter a country/ taking "long" to get refugee status? Especially in the EU... which is next door? See what I'm getting at?
A small group of people might have taken matters in there own hands... Knowing ISIS likes to take responsibility for things they haven't done (E.G: ISIS saying they are responsible for the Russian Plane being "shot down" when it could not be destroyed by external means.) it might be everyone focusing on the wrong thing. It might be people being outraged by how they've been treated by foreign governments, so they bring their refugee reasons to these countries --Literally.
If they managed to reach any "main" country in the EU, they'd take the opportunity (The person left Greece and went into one of these "main" states of the EU: France.).
As someone else said, it might be Germany next... Not what the newspapers here been saying (Israel because they are surrounded by enemies, and they are closest to the issue)
Sadly, i don't have enough information to prove all of that but... I've been trying to look at this from a different vista... Just what if we're wrong? (I'm a process of elimination kinda guy lol)
Like if ISIS truly wanted to do something bad for everyone... They'd go for an oil refinery and hold that hostage... Now that would screw up the world for a few days/weeks... Probably months. I can't even try to predict what would happen (i basically just turned 17, i barely have 1st hand life experience)... Maybe a serious decline in the economy... Forced recession?
...Thankfully they don't take that into consideration. Hmm.
How many come out of syria? depends how many are on the beaches waiting for a boat to take them across.
Also many did not get proccessed at all and were just let through various countries because with the amount of people it would take too long, also many just moved on and skipped registration anyways.
Oil is at an all time low atm, Iran had its sanctions lifted so is pumping away oil like no tommorow, add in the fact that the US is actually moving away from oil, the market is flooded with cheap oil and the only way another recession will happen is most likely on the banking sector but intrest rates are being kept low.
Would make no difference if ISIS took a refinery for a bit, sure they get paid but they already got supplied with weapons by the US and iraqis and most likely funded by the saudis.
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Forever ETC wrote:
We can but we won't... I don't see that happening anytime soon, especially with the backlash the U.S got for bombing that hospital of Doctors Without Borders. Imagine now purposely bombing all of ISIS/Extremist held ground in the Middle East... They may be bad but there are still humans in that occupied area who can't get out. If we start releasing mass amounts of nukes in that area we will have more blood in our hands than they ever had. Congratulations you eliminated a terrorist organization and killed millions, another one will rise again with even more hatred.
Doctors without borders was a goddamn travesty.
However, I guarantee you that while the nerds immediately responsible for that show of cataclysmic stupid will probably burn, there will be no such concern should ISIS continue it's flagrant "war with the entire world" BS. I do not believe for an instant that ISIS would have treated the doctors in that camp any more gently than the shells that should not have hit them.
But realistically, nukes are not on the table. There are too many reasons not to do that. The only way that happens is if ISIS has one and they use it, or if any other rogue state has one and uses it. The consequences otherwise would be too dire for anyone to seriously consider.
I consider it far more likely that various governments might set the troops loose, and to the generals say "Don't tell us how you did it. Make them stop. now."
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Forever ETC wrote:
We can but we won't... I don't see that happening anytime soon, especially with the backlash the U.S got for bombing that hospital of Doctors Without Borders. Imagine now purposely bombing all of ISIS/Extremist held ground in the Middle East... They may be bad but there are still humans in that occupied area who can't get out. If we start releasing mass amounts of nukes in that area we will have more blood in our hands than they ever had. Congratulations you eliminated a terrorist organization and killed millions, another one will rise again with even more hatred.
Doctors without borders was a goddamn travesty. However, I guarantee you that while the nerds immediately responsible for that show of cataclysmic stupid will probably burn, there will be no such concern should ISIS continue it's flagrant "war with the entire world" BS. I do not believe for an instant that ISIS would have treated the doctors in that camp any more gently than the shells that should not have hit them. But realistically, nukes are not on the table. There are too many reasons not to do that. The only way that happens is if ISIS has one and they use it, or if any other rogue state has one and uses it. The consequences otherwise would be too dire for anyone to seriously consider. I consider it far more likely that various governments might set the troops loose, and to the generals say "Don't tell us how you did it. Make them stop. now."
even if we dont use nukes we can use other things we can pour fire across their land like water and rain death on them...ide prefer to do this without troops but either way idc how they do it i just want it to stop...
might set the troops loose, and to the generals say "Don't tell us how you did it. Make them stop. now (please do)
i think we can all look ina another direction for a few months while the generals do what needs to be done ...it needs to be done...this needs to stop
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there are no good answers here.
The moral high ground took a walk out behind the woodshed with a gun loaded with a single bullet, alone.
It's basically down to a couple questions:
Which countries will fight?
Which countries will capitulate?
This is what I am waiting to see.
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Mortedeamor wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:The most successful tactics the insurgent groups utilize is aggressive local recruitment.
I'm willing to bet they plan this **** for years until they can go over it by the numbers in their sleep. I was really out of this problem, but after this attack my first thing in mind was basicaly "nuke them". Honestly i know there is still people in place where are they, but if you ask me i will be for carpet attacks, supported by surgical strikes 24/7. This is enough. Im for people, for equality etc. But enought is enough. those were my first thoughts to after attacking france i am for nuclear retaliation Because if you know and you see, you must act. Just some interesting photos: AfganistanIran no its not that its because its personal now i lost family in France honestly they could all be wearing crucifixes and it would be no different in my mind...i just had a loved one killed in the name of religion ps if my assaults hurt a lil extra tonight its because im ******* PISSED
I meant it like i do not want my family be like this.
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Shamarskii Simon wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:It is not by religion, they do not care about religion.
It is about amount of orthodox groups in state already.
And biggest amount is in France and England. Hmm? Care to explain for me? I was thinking like "orthodox church," so I must be wrong lol.
Not church i mean groups what openly supported orthodox kind of islam.
With sharia nonsence and crucifixion, terorist attacks etc.
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Breakin Stuff wrote:F*ck religious comparisons.
This is murder, an act forbidden by law.
Further, it is mass murder carried out in military fashion with intent to attack the fundamental rights and privileges enjoyed by the french.
In other times this would be declared an act of war.
It may have been done ostensibly for religious reasons. It may be the west is "reaping what it has sown."
These insurgent bastards are murderers. They are undeclared, un-uniformed enemy combatants on french soil. Screw the religious connotations, justifications and the bs.
An attack is an attack is an attack. Now the question is, will the french be the first to bring this sh*t to a screeching halt and actually take off the kid gloves?
All smartass jokes about the french at war aside, the french aren't lightweights when they don't have a sudden bumrush of ten tank divisions bombing across the country from a (theoretically) non-hostile neighbor.
If the french government acts, this isn't going to be a debate about christians versus muslims. It's going to be a sovereign nation retaliating against a rogue would-be nation fostering insurgency and murder within her borders.
It may be religious to the terrorists, but to the regular soldiers, it's just another fu**ing meatgrinder. It won't matter who the bad guys pray to at the end of the day.
Question remains: who says "screw it, no more playing nice" first?
I believe a century of domination and violence outweighs a couple of hundred french people.
Further, France already declared war by bombing DAESH, so blowback is to be expected is it not?
Where was your outrage and forum posting for the 60 people DAESH killed in Lebanon 3 days ago?
This false sanctimony on display is part of the reason why people dislike Westerners. The media has deeply conditioned your responses to events.
This complete willful ignorance of history, even when that history is extremely short term, is toxic to real understanding.
The Attorney General - Mr. Hybrid Vayu
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
1
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Posted - 2015.11.15 02:27:00 -
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PLAYSTTION wrote:General Mosquito wrote:Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:General Mosquito wrote:
What I linked quotes the Qu'ran. Maybe you should have read it jackass.
I'm dismissive of people like Islam is worse, when Christianity has the much higher running body count, and Western powers have spent the last 50 years pushing Islam to the extreme.
Wahhabism didn't get spread around on a whim, it was a policy decision by the West as part of their deal with the Saudis.
The West now reaps what it so happily sowed.
Read the complete post. I was in the process of editing it. Also, I see I'm dealing with a name calling fool. So, I will leave the arguement there. Again though, you can't pass judgment on Christianity based on the actions of ignorant people that use it for nefarious purposes. Jesus even made a point about at sort of thing both about himself and the Pharisees, who enforced Jewish law legalistically. So what, you exempt bible thumping terrorists, but not Islamic ones? The amount of hypocrisy and your attempted derision are laughable. I can and will condemn Christian extremists just as roundly as I condemn Islamic ones. I don't pretend that one is any less violent than the other, because they are not. Extreme religion is the extreme following of a religion. Extreme Christianity is showing love to everybody and share the gospel. Extreme Islam in my opinion is be kind to insiders but press more forcibly on others. I'm not muslim so I don't know all the inside stuff. I do know however that there is in muslim teaching, verses that clearly state to kill unbelievers and force them to submit and accept allah. As for your quotes clearly stating not to murder and stuff, I think that would be a more inside thing. I saw a post one time saying that the muslims who say Islam is a religion of peace are the ones who only carry it as a title and don't really practice it, like a lot of christians on the west. Now, with my version of extreme religion this kind of makes sense, not all Christians are extremists and don't practice all of the bibles teachings, maybe they curse or don't really do anything, like a lot of Christians I know.. Therefore, not all muslims are extremists, not all muslims go around threatening to kill people if the don't convert, some pick out the good bits and some just carry the title, like every muslim I know. Some people from both religions are misguided and do things the religion doesn't promote. No one is perfect, hypocrisy is impossible to avoid in any organization. I dont want to get into this forum argument so i won't reply to questions other than clarification.
I saw some extreme christians spiting on grave of fallen gay soldier.
There is not better religion, there is just good and bad people.
Im believe in good and bad in people, some call it atheism, some deism, some apatheism.
Honestly if i will see god i will tell him:"Oki hows goin boyko, you are real.", if not i will still see good and bad in people.
But most important thingy, i actually believe the major thing is what will be left after us.
After we die.
And that is important.
I do not want to be "that bast3rd boyo" who will be hated by everyone.
"We are the children of the Desolation."
One Scavenging Survivalist
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Mortedeamor
The Black Masquerade
2
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Posted - 2015.11.15 02:54:00 -
[205] - Quote
General Mosquito wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:F*ck religious comparisons.
This is murder, an act forbidden by law.
Further, it is mass murder carried out in military fashion with intent to attack the fundamental rights and privileges enjoyed by the french.
In other times this would be declared an act of war.
It may have been done ostensibly for religious reasons. It may be the west is "reaping what it has sown."
These insurgent bastards are murderers. They are undeclared, un-uniformed enemy combatants on french soil. Screw the religious connotations, justifications and the bs.
An attack is an attack is an attack. Now the question is, will the french be the first to bring this sh*t to a screeching halt and actually take off the kid gloves?
All smartass jokes about the french at war aside, the french aren't lightweights when they don't have a sudden bumrush of ten tank divisions bombing across the country from a (theoretically) non-hostile neighbor.
If the french government acts, this isn't going to be a debate about christians versus muslims. It's going to be a sovereign nation retaliating against a rogue would-be nation fostering insurgency and murder within her borders.
It may be religious to the terrorists, but to the regular soldiers, it's just another fu**ing meatgrinder. It won't matter who the bad guys pray to at the end of the day.
Question remains: who says "screw it, no more playing nice" first? I believe a century of domination and violence outweighs a couple of hundred french people. Further, France already declared war by bombing DAESH, so blowback is to be expected is it not? Where was your outrage and forum posting for the 60 people DAESH killed in Lebanon 3 days ago? This false sanctimony on display is part of the reason why people dislike Westerners. The media has deeply conditioned your responses to events. This complete willful ignorance of history, even when that history is extremely short term, is toxic to real understanding.
are we supposed to be outraged over murders in Lebanon?
vs murders in France...is like comparing apples to oranges lol
also Lebanon is kinda in the middle of a **** storm death there is expected
is tragic the loss of 60 lives is very tragic but the higher reaction to lives lost in France is completely understandable in my opinion
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.15 03:06:00 -
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Honestly i do not care what is where.
Troublemakers should be catched, prosecuted and punished.
"We are the children of the Desolation."
One Scavenging Survivalist
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DeadlyAztec11
9
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Posted - 2015.11.15 03:31:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Golden Day wrote:I hope there is a world war 3 it will speed up technology progression so we have more ways to kill people!
laser rifles anyone? This isn't the time nor the place for such a comment. And this thread isn't dust related ,your point?
We need to wait a few generations so that there's nobody that was there.
It's the same reason people can joke about ancient wars where thousands die, but you are considered a psycho if you joke about recent events. It's all relative.
I doubt many would get offended if you made a joke about Sherman's march to the sea- you are considered edgy. Though, heaven forbid you make an ironic pass at either Gulf War.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
12
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Posted - 2015.11.15 03:37:00 -
[208] - Quote
General Mosquito wrote:
I believe a century of domination and violence outweighs a couple of hundred french people.
Further, France already declared war by bombing DAESH, so blowback is to be expected is it not?
Where was your outrage and forum posting for the 60 people DAESH killed in Lebanon 3 days ago?
This false sanctimony on display is part of the reason why people dislike Westerners. The media has deeply conditioned your responses to events.
This complete willful ignorance of history, even when that history is extremely short term, is toxic to real understanding.
Here, as in all things, I don't give a merry sh*t what you think.
Justify things all you like, but that doesn't change a damn thing. You can armchair history and say yhe murder of civilians in this particular manner is justified.
I will be cheering for the guys who are sent to torch the bastards who masterminded it.
And bluntly the middle east doesn't need western help to oppress itself. They're doing it just fine on their own in the areas that suffer this crap daily.
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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General Mosquito
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
377
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Posted - 2015.11.15 03:38:00 -
[209] - Quote
Mortedeamor wrote:General Mosquito wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:F*ck religious comparisons.
This is murder, an act forbidden by law.
Further, it is mass murder carried out in military fashion with intent to attack the fundamental rights and privileges enjoyed by the french.
In other times this would be declared an act of war.
It may have been done ostensibly for religious reasons. It may be the west is "reaping what it has sown."
These insurgent bastards are murderers. They are undeclared, un-uniformed enemy combatants on french soil. Screw the religious connotations, justifications and the bs.
An attack is an attack is an attack. Now the question is, will the french be the first to bring this sh*t to a screeching halt and actually take off the kid gloves?
All smartass jokes about the french at war aside, the french aren't lightweights when they don't have a sudden bumrush of ten tank divisions bombing across the country from a (theoretically) non-hostile neighbor.
If the french government acts, this isn't going to be a debate about christians versus muslims. It's going to be a sovereign nation retaliating against a rogue would-be nation fostering insurgency and murder within her borders.
It may be religious to the terrorists, but to the regular soldiers, it's just another fu**ing meatgrinder. It won't matter who the bad guys pray to at the end of the day.
Question remains: who says "screw it, no more playing nice" first? I believe a century of domination and violence outweighs a couple of hundred french people. Further, France already declared war by bombing DAESH, so blowback is to be expected is it not? Where was your outrage and forum posting for the 60 people DAESH killed in Lebanon 3 days ago? This false sanctimony on display is part of the reason why people dislike Westerners. The media has deeply conditioned your responses to events. This complete willful ignorance of history, even when that history is extremely short term, is toxic to real understanding. are we supposed to be outraged over murders in Lebanon? vs murders in France...is like comparing apples to oranges lol also Lebanon is kinda in the middle of a **** storm death there is expected is tragic the loss of 60 lives is very tragic but the higher reaction to lives lost in France is completely understandable in my opinion France has been an ally to the us..since it was founded ..they are our oldest and closest ally our dearest friend higher levels of outrage are completely understandable for me the outrage is personal i knew some of the dead in France i knew no one in Lebanon
Your friend who died is worth just as much as a Lebanese or any other type of civilian. Not more though.
Beyond that, control yourself, and your emotions. We all lose people. It is nothing new. Handle yourself appropriately, instead of calling for nuclear war because you don't know how to deal with unpleasant feelings.
As long as this blatant double standard exists where Western lives are somehow more valuable, then more of this stuff will keep going on.
Although considering that DAESH only exists because of the Iraqi war, this is kind of a you break it, you bought it type of situation. Not that anyone will be thinking that way right now in all the patriotic fervour, but it is factually correct.
I really pity the thousands more middle eastern civilians who are going to die because of the escalation this will bring.
The Attorney General - Mr. Hybrid Vayu
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viper xsniper
Dead Man's Game
24
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Posted - 2015.11.15 03:45:00 -
[210] - Quote
i dont understand how some people think they are smart and using tactics when there bombig/shooting innocent people thats just wrong normal people in france wouldnt have a gun cause of course there illegal but yh id like to pay my respects to the peoples familys and the injured people there i know 2 dust players one being sequel rise but also members of my family that could have easily bein killed/injured nd sequel i hope 2 c u soon!
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
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Posted - 2015.11.15 03:49:00 -
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viper xsniper wrote:i dont understand how some people think they are smart and using tactics when there bombig/shooting innocent people thats just wrong normal people in france wouldnt have a gun cause of course there illegal but yh id like to pay my respects to the peoples familys and the injured people there i know 2 dust players one being sequel rise but also members of my family that could have easily bein killed/injured nd sequel i hope 2 c u soon!
It is not tactics, there is nothing tactical when you start shooting civilists.
It is just act of cowardice, nothing else.
"Dear Santa i want jackknife pick."
One Scavenging Survivalist
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viper xsniper
Dead Man's Game
24
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Posted - 2015.11.15 03:50:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:viper xsniper wrote:i dont understand how some people think they are smart and using tactics when there bombig/shooting innocent people thats just wrong normal people in france wouldnt have a gun cause of course there illegal but yh id like to pay my respects to the peoples familys and the injured people there i know 2 dust players one being sequel rise but also members of my family that could have easily bein killed/injured nd sequel i hope 2 c u soon! It is not tactics, there is nothing tactical when you start shooting civilists. It is just act of cowardice, nothing else.
yes wat i said at the start of that paragraph
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General Mosquito
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
377
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Posted - 2015.11.15 03:51:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:General Mosquito wrote:
I believe a century of domination and violence outweighs a couple of hundred french people.
Further, France already declared war by bombing DAESH, so blowback is to be expected is it not?
Where was your outrage and forum posting for the 60 people DAESH killed in Lebanon 3 days ago?
This false sanctimony on display is part of the reason why people dislike Westerners. The media has deeply conditioned your responses to events.
This complete willful ignorance of history, even when that history is extremely short term, is toxic to real understanding.
Here, as in all things, I don't give a merry sh*t what you think. Justify things all you like, but that doesn't change a damn thing. You can armchair history and say yhe murder of civilians in this particular manner is justified. I will be cheering for the guys who are sent to torch the bastards who masterminded it. And bluntly the middle east doesn't need western help to oppress itself. They're doing it just fine on their own in the areas that suffer this crap daily.
Typical imperial American thinking.
You ignore history at your peril.
If you can't see the direct line from WWI to today, then I think you should take up the issue with the teachers who failed you.
Do you think the victims of imperial policy forget their suffering?
Do you think the leaders of DAESH forgot being tortured in Abu Ghraib? Or having their country destroyed by coalition forces? Or watching as the Coalition stood on the sidelines while ethnic cleansing was going on in Baghdad?
They do not forget our sides crimes, and we would do well to remember them, so as to properly judge our enemy.
You cannot fight an enemy if you assign them arbitrary traits and attempt to make them comic villians.
The only place for ignorance in these matters is for martyrs.
Finally, I did not say it was justified. Any attack on civilians is reprehensible. However, to forget that our side has been inflicting civilians casualties, overthrowing governments and supporting some of the most vile regimes in that region for almost a century is not acceptable.
Your ignorance stains any argument you make. How can someone who cannot recognize the effects of sykes picot today pretend they know what they are talking about?
American schools at work people.
The Attorney General - Mr. Hybrid Vayu
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DeadlyAztec11
9
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Posted - 2015.11.15 03:52:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:F*ck religious comparisons.
This is murder, an act forbidden by law.
Further, it is mass murder carried out in military fashion with intent to attack the fundamental rights and privileges enjoyed by the french.
In other times this would be declared an act of war.
It may have been done ostensibly for religious reasons. It may be the west is "reaping what it has sown."
These insurgent bastards are murderers. They are undeclared, un-uniformed enemy combatants on french soil. Screw the religious connotations, justifications and the bs.
An attack is an attack is an attack. Now the question is, will the french be the first to bring this sh*t to a screeching halt and actually take off the kid gloves?
All smartass jokes about the french at war aside, the french aren't lightweights when they don't have a sudden bumrush of ten tank divisions bombing across the country from a (theoretically) non-hostile neighbor.
If the french government acts, this isn't going to be a debate about christians versus muslims. It's going to be a sovereign nation retaliating against a rogue would-be nation fostering insurgency and murder within her borders.
It may be religious to the terrorists, but to the regular soldiers, it's just another fu**ing meatgrinder. It won't matter who the bad guys pray to at the end of the day.
Question remains: who says "screw it, no more playing nice" first?
The French won't do crap. You can't defeat an insurgency through war when the force has the support of the populous.
The French have already been beaten by Guerillas in the six years war, the French Intervention of M+¬xico, Napoleon's Invasion of Russia, the Haitian Revolution... Hell the term Guerilla is the Spanish word for the bands that attacked Napoleon's troops.
Short of annihilating everyone in the area bombing those people isn't going to do anything but speed up the evolution of their tactics and strategy. Evolution works of course in warfare, and the most reckless commanders and soldiers die off while in general the elite survive and pass on their knowledge which is refined with each successive generation of troops and commanders. The same happened in the Indochinan Wars and the Soviet Intervention of the Middle East.
No, any peace there won't be through the bayonet.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
1
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Posted - 2015.11.15 03:53:00 -
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Im everytime interested why these "heroes" cannot attack some fully armed battalion.
But their acts speaks for itselves.
"Dear Santa i want jackknife pick."
One Scavenging Survivalist
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
12
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Posted - 2015.11.15 04:00:00 -
[216] - Quote
General Mosquito wrote:
Your ignorance stains any argument you make. How can someone who cannot recognize the effects of sykes picot today pretend they know what they are talking about?
American schools at work people.
I'm well aware of this crap. Guess what? We mustall live with the mistakes of our forebears.
But your high horse and imperialist BS is old, it's tired, it's propagandist BS on the same vein as telling children that europe is full of people who don't understand freedom.
Get off your high horse. You're not making points anyone is really interested in. I am not a backwoods hick that buys every BS thing I'm spoon fed.
I am concerned with the here and now.
Lamenting past mistakes of government officials is hardly something i find constructive. I display my displeasure by helping vote the bastards out.
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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DeadlyAztec11
9
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Posted - 2015.11.15 04:08:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:viper xsniper wrote:i dont understand how some people think they are smart and using tactics when there bombig/shooting innocent people thats just wrong normal people in france wouldnt have a gun cause of course there illegal but yh id like to pay my respects to the peoples familys and the injured people there i know 2 dust players one being sequel rise but also members of my family that could have easily bein killed/injured nd sequel i hope 2 c u soon! It is not tactics, there is nothing tactical when you start shooting civilists. It is just act of cowardice, nothing else.
It actually is a legitimate tactic. Killing people is often used to demoralize the enemy in hope that they will give up. It was the basis of the bombing campaigns of WWII(Dresden) and was the reason for dropping both atomic bombs on Japan. It was used again by coalition forces against Iraq in the Second Gulf War(The Shock and Awe Campaign). It was used earlier by the U.S and South Vietnamese militaries against North Vietnam on Search and Destroy Missions who's success was measured soley by body count.
There's a reason that Terrorist's use terror and it's because they want the Western World to 'quit' the Middle East. Just like the U.S quit Vietnam after the public outrage over the Tet Offensive. It was a campaign that resulted in military failure for North Vietnamese and basically amputated the Vietcong, but the media spun it as so violent that America quit.
That's why they terrorize the Western World.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
1
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Posted - 2015.11.15 04:24:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:viper xsniper wrote:i dont understand how some people think they are smart and using tactics when there bombig/shooting innocent people thats just wrong normal people in france wouldnt have a gun cause of course there illegal but yh id like to pay my respects to the peoples familys and the injured people there i know 2 dust players one being sequel rise but also members of my family that could have easily bein killed/injured nd sequel i hope 2 c u soon! It is not tactics, there is nothing tactical when you start shooting civilists. It is just act of cowardice, nothing else. It actually is a legitimate tactic. Killing people is often used to demoralize the enemy in hope that they will give up. It was the basis of the bombing campaigns of WWII(Dresden) and was the reason for dropping both atomic bombs on Japan. It was used again by coalition forces against Iraq in the Second Gulf War(The Shock and Awe Campaign). It was used earlier by the U.S and South Vietnamese militaries against North Vietnam on Search and Destroy Missions who's success was measured soley by body count. There's a reason that Terrorist's use terror and it's because they want the Western World to 'quit' the Middle East. Just like the U.S quit Vietnam after the public outrage over the Tet Offensive. It was a campaign that resulted in military failure for North Vietnamese and basically amputated the Vietcong, but the media spun it as so violent that America quit. That's why they terrorize the Western World.
Sorry but i see tactics like usefull strategy in war confrontation between two armies.
And to be honest killing people in their own country will make everyone just more furious and supportive, than giving up.
"Dear Santa i want jackknife pick."
One Scavenging Survivalist
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DeadlyAztec11
9
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Posted - 2015.11.15 04:29:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:viper xsniper wrote:i dont understand how some people think they are smart and using tactics when there bombig/shooting innocent people thats just wrong normal people in france wouldnt have a gun cause of course there illegal but yh id like to pay my respects to the peoples familys and the injured people there i know 2 dust players one being sequel rise but also members of my family that could have easily bein killed/injured nd sequel i hope 2 c u soon! It is not tactics, there is nothing tactical when you start shooting civilists. It is just act of cowardice, nothing else. It actually is a legitimate tactic. Killing people is often used to demoralize the enemy in hope that they will give up. It was the basis of the bombing campaigns of WWII(Dresden) and was the reason for dropping both atomic bombs on Japan. It was used again by coalition forces against Iraq in the Second Gulf War(The Shock and Awe Campaign). It was used earlier by the U.S and South Vietnamese militaries against North Vietnam on Search and Destroy Missions who's success was measured soley by body count. There's a reason that Terrorist's use terror and it's because they want the Western World to 'quit' the Middle East. Just like the U.S quit Vietnam after the public outrage over the Tet Offensive. It was a campaign that resulted in military failure for North Vietnamese and basically amputated the Vietcong, but the media spun it as so violent that America quit. That's why they terrorize the Western World. Sorry but i see tactics like usefull strategy in war confrontation between two armies. And to be honest killing people in their own country will make everyone just more furious and supportive, than giving up.
When a force is outnumbered literally, monetarily and in terms of weaponry there are few options on the table. It doesn't make them right, but they are there.
Also, it could make Western Europe give up in the long term. If they wage total war in the Middle East again they won't be able to sustain it for long before the casualties of their own troops and the increase of taxes will make the public force their governments to give up for good.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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korrah silain
True Illuminate
167
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Posted - 2015.11.15 07:37:00 -
[220] - Quote
Golden Day wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Golden Day wrote:I hope there is a world war 3 it will speed up technology progression so we have more ways to kill people!
laser rifles anyone? This isn't the time nor the place for such a comment. And this thread isn't dust related ,your point?
Point is this is talking about a real life tragedy you twit. People are really hurt and dead over this and your comment celebrating the prospect of more death and violence reads like an angsty 12 yearold who wants to look like a badass to his friend. Please grow up, or if you insist on celebrating the prospect of death violence and war in the context of the aftermath of a large terrorist attack, slit your wrists please, then maybe you will get your fill of bloodshed. DO YOU GET IT YOU TWIT? ITS FUNNY BECAUSE VIOLENCE HAW HAW HAW.
you ever get to that point where you know you should sleep, but ya just...dont? yeah...me too.
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Alena Ventrallis
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2015.11.15 09:04:00 -
[221] - Quote
It's days like this that I really, really want to re enlist.
Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind.
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Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game
1
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Posted - 2015.11.15 09:11:00 -
[222] - Quote
viper xsniper wrote:i dont understand how some people think they are smart and using tactics when there bombig/shooting innocent people thats just wrong normal people in france wouldnt have a gun cause of course there illegal but yh id like to pay my respects to the peoples familys and the injured people there i know 2 dust players one being sequel rise but also members of my family that could have easily bein killed/injured nd sequel i hope 2 c u soon!
Thanks bro <3
Monde de fous...
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JEDI LORD HOTH
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Posted - 2015.11.15 12:07:00 -
[223] - Quote
General Mosquito wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:F*ck religious comparisons.
This is murder, an act forbidden by law.
Further, it is mass murder carried out in military fashion with intent to attack the fundamental rights and privileges enjoyed by the french.
In other times this would be declared an act of war.
It may have been done ostensibly for religious reasons. It may be the west is "reaping what it has sown."
These insurgent bastards are murderers. They are undeclared, un-uniformed enemy combatants on french soil. Screw the religious connotations, justifications and the bs.
An attack is an attack is an attack. Now the question is, will the french be the first to bring this sh*t to a screeching halt and actually take off the kid gloves?
All smartass jokes about the french at war aside, the french aren't lightweights when they don't have a sudden bumrush of ten tank divisions bombing across the country from a (theoretically) non-hostile neighbor.
If the french government acts, this isn't going to be a debate about christians versus muslims. It's going to be a sovereign nation retaliating against a rogue would-be nation fostering insurgency and murder within her borders.
It may be religious to the terrorists, but to the regular soldiers, it's just another fu**ing meatgrinder. It won't matter who the bad guys pray to at the end of the day.
Question remains: who says "screw it, no more playing nice" first? I believe a century of domination and violence outweighs a couple of hundred french people. Further, France already declared war by bombing DAESH, so blowback is to be expected is it not? Where was your outrage and forum posting for the 60 people DAESH killed in Lebanon 3 days ago? This false sanctimony on display is part of the reason why people dislike Westerners. The media has deeply conditioned your responses to events. This complete willful ignorance of history, even when that history is extremely short term, is toxic to real understanding.
**** you and **** Labia-don! Bombings are like an Olyimpic sport there Mr. Snowden wannabe.
God Bless =ƒç½=ƒç+. Gen. Jean Morin if you need volunteers, my Ar15 will travel.
La Boudin o7.
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Mortedeamor
The Black Masquerade
2
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Posted - 2015.11.15 12:27:00 -
[224] - Quote
General Mosquito wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:General Mosquito wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:F*ck religious comparisons.
This is murder, an act forbidden by law.
Further, it is mass murder carried out in military fashion with intent to attack the fundamental rights and privileges enjoyed by the french.
In other times this would be declared an act of war.
It may have been done ostensibly for religious reasons. It may be the west is "reaping what it has sown."
These insurgent bastards are murderers. They are undeclared, un-uniformed enemy combatants on french soil. Screw the religious connotations, justifications and the bs.
An attack is an attack is an attack. Now the question is, will the french be the first to bring this sh*t to a screeching halt and actually take off the kid gloves?
All smartass jokes about the french at war aside, the french aren't lightweights when they don't have a sudden bumrush of ten tank divisions bombing across the country from a (theoretically) non-hostile neighbor.
If the french government acts, this isn't going to be a debate about christians versus muslims. It's going to be a sovereign nation retaliating against a rogue would-be nation fostering insurgency and murder within her borders.
It may be religious to the terrorists, but to the regular soldiers, it's just another fu**ing meatgrinder. It won't matter who the bad guys pray to at the end of the day.
Question remains: who says "screw it, no more playing nice" first? I believe a century of domination and violence outweighs a couple of hundred french people. Further, France already declared war by bombing DAESH, so blowback is to be expected is it not? Where was your outrage and forum posting for the 60 people DAESH killed in Lebanon 3 days ago? This false sanctimony on display is part of the reason why people dislike Westerners. The media has deeply conditioned your responses to events. This complete willful ignorance of history, even when that history is extremely short term, is toxic to real understanding. are we supposed to be outraged over murders in Lebanon? vs murders in France...is like comparing apples to oranges lol also Lebanon is kinda in the middle of a **** storm death there is expected is tragic the loss of 60 lives is very tragic but the higher reaction to lives lost in France is completely understandable in my opinion France has been an ally to the us..since it was founded ..they are our oldest and closest ally our dearest friend higher levels of outrage are completely understandable for me the outrage is personal i knew some of the dead in France i knew no one in Lebanon Your friend who died is worth just as much as a Lebanese or any other type of civilian. Not more though. Beyond that, control yourself, and your emotions. We all lose people. It is nothing new. Handle yourself appropriately, instead of calling for nuclear war because you don't know how to deal with unpleasant feelings. As long as this blatant double standard exists where Western lives are somehow more valuable, then more of this stuff will keep going on. Although considering that DAESH only exists because of the Iraqi war, this is kind of a you break it, you bought it type of situation. Not that anyone will be thinking that way right now in all the patriotic fervour, but it is factually correct. I really pity the thousands more middle eastern civilians who are going to die because of the escalation this will bring.
oh please its hardly a double standard and France isnt the western world to me lol im in america i never said his life was technically worth more than theirs i said it was worth more to me
is one thing to watch a bunch of Muslims killing a bunch of other Muslims none of who you know its another thing to lose loved ones ..pretty obvious why the later means more to me
besides that there is a reason i despise Muslims and its got nothing to do with american media because i dont watch or read american media it has to do with me finding them abhorrent ..mostly due to female genitalia mutilation and the outright sexism of all the men..i mean cant tell you how many arabs ask me per day(average of 5) to move to the middle east and be one of their wives lol
besides that a large portion of Muslims would see people like me dead...so sue me for not caring about their lives im hardly gunna be the bigger person when it comes to this lol they want people like me dead i want people like them dead its that simple
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Some of the arguments here are like stupid.
It's like Japanese people seeking for revenge because of WWII facts-
I guess we're not safe here in Italy then: I heard people are raising an army in Tunisia because, you know, we destroyed Carthage a "while" back and never gave them the status of "cives". Today's people must be very angry for that reason.
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Some of the arguments here are like stupid.
It's like Japanese people seeking for revenge because of WWII facts-
I guess we're not safe here in Italy then: I heard people are raising an army in Tunisia because, you know, we destroyed Carthage a "while" back and never gave them the status of "cives". Today's people must be very angry for that reason.
omg u just made my morning
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I do not mean to be insensitive but this will not end unless we do something drastically different with foreign policy as western nations.
We are indirectly responsible for this mess. A good idea would be to STOP SENDING WEAPONS to the middle east PERIOD! Not to any 'moderates' or anyone else.
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Breakin Stuff wrote:General Mosquito wrote:
Your ignorance stains any argument you make. How can someone who cannot recognize the effects of sykes picot today pretend they know what they are talking about?
American schools at work people.
I'm well aware of this crap. Guess what? We mustall live with the mistakes of our forebears. But your high horse and imperialist BS is old, it's tired, it's propagandist BS on the same vein as telling children that europe is full of people who don't understand freedom. Get off your high horse. You're not making points anyone is really interested in. I am not a backwoods hick that buys every BS thing I'm spoon fed. I am concerned with the here and now. Lamenting past mistakes of government officials is hardly something i find constructive. I display my displeasure by helping vote the bastards out.
Look at the various calls for nuclear war, which is a gross overreaction to the French taking a punch for a fight they started.
This over aggressive hyper violent reactionary orgy of feeling is shameful. It is almost as disgusting as the terrorists power March after Hebdo.
The societal over reaction to 9/11 allowed for the Iraq war, which was the genesis of DAESH. The people in this thread should at least be aware of that fact before they run around calling for more violence.
That you think stating unpleasant truths is propagandist is unfortunate, but the facts on the ground are not going to change because you don't like them.
In fact, you are much, much worse of a human being if you are not ignorant of these facts. It would be somewhat understandable if you were unaware of the historical facts surrounding the matter. That you claim to not be ignorant of these facts and are still being overly militaristic shows that you are far worse than someone who was generally ignorant of how we got to here, even just using the last 13 years as a guidepost.
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ANON Cerberus wrote:I do not mean to be insensitive but this will not end unless we do something drastically different with foreign policy as western nations.
We are indirectly responsible for this mess. A good idea would be to STOP SENDING WEAPONS to the middle east PERIOD! Not to any 'moderates' or anyone else.
I feel so bad for Parisian families. They had had a lot to endure the last few years especially.
Foreign policy as a whole by western nations is crap.
The west are always messing about in the middle east, mainly because Isreal is stuck there surrounded and they are considered an ally of the west but also the west like to poke around and destabilize things like Libya and Syria where we take a side and bomb things and supply the enemy because the enemy of my enemy is my friend when it actually turns out they are another enemy and we have no friends.
Really the west should just pull out completely, but to an extent that oil leash is still around the west neck but maybe not for too long, maybe a ultimatium of somekind like both sides stop ******* about in each others backyard and leave each other alone but if anyone bombs anyone else or there allies then they get turned into the biggest parklot which can be seen from space.
If the middle east has a massive war between themseleves the west stay out completely, no aid no refugees nothing they sort that out themselves, cut contact completely i think is the only way because everytime the west intervene even if it is to help down the road they complain.
Middle east has countries which are either dictorships or dictorships and they only seem to respond to brute force because sanctions are useless and diplomacy is pointless when they say one thing and think something else so maybe the fear that the US and its allies would gear up the warmachine and hammer them back to the stone age may work because nothing else has.
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Some of the arguments here are like stupid.
It's like Japanese people seeking for revenge because of WWII facts-
I guess we're not safe here in Italy then: I heard people are raising an army in Tunisia because, you know, we destroyed Carthage a "while" back and never gave them the status of "cives". Today's people must be very angry for that reason.
Iraq got destroyed with the last 15 years, and troops are still on the ground. This is not deep past.
Americans were torturing DAESH members less than 10 years ago. They supervised the ethnic cleansing of Baghdad less than 10 years ago. The majority of DAESH leadership comes from Saddams army, which Bremer disbanded after the invasion.
These things matter. DAESH doesn't exist becuase Muslims hate freedom. It exists because rampaging across a country, randomly arresting and torturing people, then firing them from their jobs and standing back while death squads kill 60 plus people a day tends to make people angry.
This is living memory, or it should be. Even though the attack that DAESH does commit or assuredly crimes, not understanding how they came to be will only create more like them.
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Mortedeamor wrote:General Mosquito wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:General Mosquito wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:F*ck religious comparisons.
This is murder, an act forbidden by law.
Further, it is mass murder carried out in military fashion with intent to attack the fundamental rights and privileges enjoyed by the french.
In other times this would be declared an act of war.
It may have been done ostensibly for religious reasons. It may be the west is "reaping what it has sown."
These insurgent bastards are murderers. They are undeclared, un-uniformed enemy combatants on french soil. Screw the religious connotations, justifications and the bs.
An attack is an attack is an attack. Now the question is, will the french be the first to bring this sh*t to a screeching halt and actually take off the kid gloves?
All smartass jokes about the french at war aside, the french aren't lightweights when they don't have a sudden bumrush of ten tank divisions bombing across the country from a (theoretically) non-hostile neighbor.
If the french government acts, this isn't going to be a debate about christians versus muslims. It's going to be a sovereign nation retaliating against a rogue would-be nation fostering insurgency and murder within her borders.
It may be religious to the terrorists, but to the regular soldiers, it's just another fu**ing meatgrinder. It won't matter who the bad guys pray to at the end of the day.
Question remains: who says "screw it, no more playing nice" first? I believe a century of domination and violence outweighs a couple of hundred french people. Further, France already declared war by bombing DAESH, so blowback is to be expected is it not? Where was your outrage and forum posting for the 60 people DAESH killed in Lebanon 3 days ago? This false sanctimony on display is part of the reason why people dislike Westerners. The media has deeply conditioned your responses to events. This complete willful ignorance of history, even when that history is extremely short term, is toxic to real understanding. are we supposed to be outraged over murders in Lebanon? vs murders in France...is like comparing apples to oranges lol also Lebanon is kinda in the middle of a **** storm death there is expected is tragic the loss of 60 lives is very tragic but the higher reaction to lives lost in France is completely understandable in my opinion France has been an ally to the us..since it was founded ..they are our oldest and closest ally our dearest friend higher levels of outrage are completely understandable for me the outrage is personal i knew some of the dead in France i knew no one in Lebanon Your friend who died is worth just as much as a Lebanese or any other type of civilian. Not more though. Beyond that, control yourself, and your emotions. We all lose people. It is nothing new. Handle yourself appropriately, instead of calling for nuclear war because you don't know how to deal with unpleasant feelings. As long as this blatant double standard exists where Western lives are somehow more valuable, then more of this stuff will keep going on. Although considering that DAESH only exists because of the Iraqi war, this is kind of a you break it, you bought it type of situation. Not that anyone will be thinking that way right now in all the patriotic fervour, but it is factually correct. I really pity the thousands more middle eastern civilians who are going to die because of the escalation this will bring. oh please its hardly a double standard and France isnt the western world to me lol im in america i never said his life was technically worth more than theirs i said it was worth more to me is one thing to watch a bunch of Muslims killing a bunch of other Muslims none of who you know its another thing to lose loved ones ..pretty obvious why the later means more to me besides that there is a reason i despise Muslims and its got nothing to do with american media because i dont watch or read american media it has to do with me finding them abhorrent ..mostly due to female genitalia mutilation and the outright sexism of all the men..i mean cant tell you how many arabs ask me per day(average of 5) to move to the middle east and be one of their wives lol besides that a large portion of Muslims would see people like me dead...so sue me for not caring about their lives im hardly gunna be the bigger person when it comes to this lol they want people like me dead i want people like them dead its that simple
Wow. So you despise a whole group of people because of the actions of a few. Way to be bigoted.
Although, your post contains a fundamental contradiction. If a large portion of Muslims want you dead, why would 5 a day ask you to be one of their wives?
Now, take your I suffered a personal loss and I demand vengeance mindset, and transpose it onto a brown person who succeeded more than just losing a friend. If your call for vengeance should be followed, does there own claim for such not bear equal or greater weight?
To be clear, I say that you are both wrong, and in neither case in violence for the sake of revenge justified. But I wonder if you think that they have cause or not. If the West has the right to use military force in response to criminal acts, then surely their victims do?
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Boykos boykos
The survivors told:"They had flawless french."
Ergo they were in France already, possibly even studied there.
Even the police told this is work of someone who knows area and made long time observation.
Ergo
That was not work of someone who just arived to EU.
There was actually one really sad story.
There was one doctor, he is originaly tunisian chirurg who lives with wife and daughter in France many years.
After his family heard gunshots they looked from ablcony and saw injured people.
His wife told him:"You must go outside and help them."
Do you know what he told her?
"I dont want, im tunisian and i basicaly dont have any batch or ID to prove im doctor."
Honestly i will be scared too, it is really thin line.
People can have respect from you but they can lynch you too.
And we all know what we can do when we are scared, angry etc. has also been reported that several of the 8 were Syrian refugees ....those refugees are dangerous we have no idea how many extremists are hiding in their ranks Just one had syrian passport and honestly it is not mean anything. He can be one of the few last waves, but he can be even just on syrian who arived long long time ago. I want be objective here, honestly i do not believe that someone who just arive will have perfect location knowledge. I see biggest possibilty these mongrels were already for some time in the France. I dont advocate them, but when i will know i will know. And what i know right now is that was just hideous act of cowardice, because if they have issue with army forces attacking their nonsence, they should attack army not inocent people. Reports coming in. He had a syrian passport A greek minister admited that they had proccessed him as a refugee in october Even 2 weeks is enough to learn the location of what you will attack, 1 week will do.
Get an advance team staying in-country for a while, they do the surveillance, then you have the team that will do the deed come in, show them what's around, and how to get their mission done.
That recon team is probably still around somewhere.
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The Black Masquerade
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i havnt the foggiest idea why they ask me to marry them considering i find it insulting that they think ide even consider it ..as for me being a bigot i can accept that when it comes to muslims i just flat out dont like them,,,.im not saying they are all terrorists ...im saying idc if they are or not i stopped standing up for the innocent muslims when i started losing people i love due to the inability to sort through them...
it doesnt matter if all of them are terrible people because i cant distinguish the good ones from the bad ones ie they are all bad is a safer approach ide rather be a bigot and have them all tossed out and treated the same than try to be a kink person and have terrorists slip through my fingers
look at what not being a bigot got france? they accepted that there are good msulims let them into thier country and not the bad muslims are burning thier country down ...if they were more biggoted that wouldn't have happened because they wouldn't have let the muslims in...because it would be to high a risk
our humanity fucks us when it comes to the muslims you try to be good the the ones that deserve it it leaves and opening for terrorism...you try to preserve civilian life your seen as weak..brutality is what they know brutality is what they should be shown
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French fighter bombers already dropped cca 20 bombs on Raqqa
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The Black Masquerade
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Posted - 2015.11.15 21:17:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:French fighter bombers already dropped cca 20 bombs on Raqqa
(it is funny how someone told here yesterday how france will do nothing)
i knew they would do something this is france we are talking about they are as proactive as the usa one measly terrorist attack will do nothing but incite them to hit harder as we predicted
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Mortedeamor wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:French fighter bombers already dropped cca 20 bombs on Raqqa
(it is funny how someone told here yesterday how france will do nothing) i knew they would do something this is france we are talking about they are as proactive as the usa one measly terrorist attack will do nothing but incite them to hit harder as we predicted
US will do something, they just do not want be in hurry like before.
They waiting for full support of GB and France
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Company of Marcher Lords
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Mortedeamor wrote:i havnt the foggiest idea why they ask me to marry them considering i find it insulting that they think ide even consider it ..as for me being a bigot i can accept that when it comes to muslims i just flat out dont like them,,,.im not saying they are all terrorists ...im saying idc if they are or not i stopped standing up for the innocent muslims when i started losing people i love due to the inability to sort through them...
Did you serve in Iraq or Afghanistan by any chance?
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The Black Masquerade
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postapo wastelander wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:French fighter bombers already dropped cca 20 bombs on Raqqa
(it is funny how someone told here yesterday how france will do nothing) i knew they would do something this is france we are talking about they are as proactive as the usa one measly terrorist attack will do nothing but incite them to hit harder as we predicted US will do something, they just do not want be in hurry like before. They waiting for full support of GB and France
mmhmm yeah we are kinda seen as warmongers on this one i imagine we will wait and jump in where needed but definitley not be the first one to start hitting hard..will prolly just follow suit now that france has opened the gate
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Niarudi wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:i havnt the foggiest idea why they ask me to marry them considering i find it insulting that they think ide even consider it ..as for me being a bigot i can accept that when it comes to muslims i just flat out dont like them,,,.im not saying they are all terrorists ...im saying idc if they are or not i stopped standing up for the innocent muslims when i started losing people i love due to the inability to sort through them... Did you serve in Iraq or Afghanistan by any chance?
no im just that ******* practical
sometimes i guess i can be cruel
but my bf is military he has served in Afghanistan and iraq and ive heard enough horror stories
it is impossible to sort through them...and trying to do so is going to and has cost us ...
i have some pretty bad ptsd i go to a support group of veterans and listen to their stories i have always felt honored that they allow me to come i am not a veteran i simply have ptsd but after listening to story after story i have started seeing it in this black and white fashion we cant sort them
there is just no way to do it and trying to do is has cost a lot of lives
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Mortedeamor wrote:Niarudi wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:i havnt the foggiest idea why they ask me to marry them considering i find it insulting that they think ide even consider it ..as for me being a bigot i can accept that when it comes to muslims i just flat out dont like them,,,.im not saying they are all terrorists ...im saying idc if they are or not i stopped standing up for the innocent muslims when i started losing people i love due to the inability to sort through them... Did you serve in Iraq or Afghanistan by any chance? no im just that ******* practical sometimes i guess i can be cruel but my bf is military he has served in Afghanistan and iraq and ive heard enough horror stories it is impossible to sort through them...and trying to do so is going to and has cost us ...
hmmm... ok. I'm only asking because I'm trying to understand where you would be in a situation where you would have Muslim men ask for your marriage (most likely jokingly) AND also see so many radicals that you would be unable (or unwilling) to know the difference between radicals and everyone else.
anecdotal evidence is really only that. anecdotal. I'm sorry that you've had a bad experience. Hopefully one day you'll be able to move past that. To show you how a person's viewpoint can be completely relative, my own experiences with Muslim men have been really good so far. I have only known 1 jerk, and only one situation where I would say I was uncomfortable with the topic of conversation (he was telling me how nice it was to have wide hips because it's good for child-birth). But that is by far the exception. One of the nicest men I have ever met (a good father and family man) was Muslim and I loved talking to him and felt safe knowing he was a Security Guard where I worked.
On another note, I have felt more hatred and racism from White men, but it would be really ignorant of me to assume that all White men are like this (or that all White men are like Americans, or Germans, or French etc).
I feel really heartbroken for France. But the evil people behind this attack are not "Muslims", it is Isis and they are an incredibly dangerous, incredibly delusional splinter group using Islam and rage to fool people into fighting for them. Isis claim to be Muslim but they don't care. They kill Muslims, Christians, Jews, and everyone else, all for their own agenda.
Also, I hope your ptsd eventually gets treated or at least becomes manageable. That's something that's really hard to live with, and even harder to explain to other people. I'm sorry.
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General Mosquito wrote:
Look at the various calls for nuclear war, which is a gross overreaction to the French taking a punch for a fight they started.
No one wants Nuclear war..... at all. However do you begrudge France for now taking steps toward what they see as 'finishing' the conflict 'you insist they seems to bear a sole responsibility for?'
I'd like to believe not because when it comes to violence and conflict morality means so very little in the face of large scale loss of human life and no moralization of 'they struck first' justifies a retaliatory act. A God that demands his people murder to affirm the nature of its existence cannot every truly be worth the credence of thought the devout offer it.
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Honestly i do not see nuclear war like gross overreact, we already using warheads with uranium as aditive.
And i will be for few crushing strikes, than one neverending war.
Im really honest here.
They already used yperit, why we should wait for time when they will use something stronger near our borders.
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postapo wastelander wrote:Honestly i do not see nuclear war like gross overreact, we already using warheads with uranium as aditive.
And i will be for few crushing strikes, than one neverending war.
Im really honest here.
They already used yperit, why we should wait for time when they will use something stronger near our borders.
I..... don't think you want people in positions of power getting used to or thinking that is acceptable to use such weapons as a common military asset.
Moreover I don't believe that depleted Uranium rounds a requires any longer in terms of modern theoretic tank combat as the KEP or APFSDS rounds can tear penetrate the thickest of armours , flash vaporise, and then suck the crew out of a hole in their tank with a diameter the size of the 50 cent piece.
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Mortedeamor wrote:i havnt the foggiest idea why they ask me to marry them considering i find it insulting that they think ide even consider it ..as for me being a bigot i can accept that when it comes to muslims i just flat out dont like them,,,.im not saying they are all terrorists ...im saying idc if they are or not i stopped standing up for the innocent muslims when i started losing people i love due to the inability to sort through them...
it doesnt matter if all of them are terrible people because i cant distinguish the good ones from the bad ones ie they are all bad is a safer approach ide rather be a bigot and have them all tossed out and treated the same than try to be a kink person and have terrorists slip through my fingers
look at what not being a bigot got france? they accepted that there are good msulims let them into thier country and not the bad muslims are burning thier country down ...if they were more biggoted that wouldn't have happened because they wouldn't have let the muslims in...because it would be to high a risk
our humanity fucks us when it comes to the muslims you try to be good the the ones that deserve it it leaves and opening for terrorism...you try to preserve civilian life your seen as weak..brutality is what they know brutality is what they should be shown
If you choose to give up your humanity because you can't be bothered to sort out people from criminals, then why should your enemy not do the same?
You demand the sanctity of civilians on one side only, and it is disgusting. You want blood because you lost a friend, and cannot understand the other side wanting the same.
So your retribution is justified, but theirs is terrorism. If people were not going to die becuase of people like you thinking that garbage it would be funny.
What is most depressing is you and that attitude are every bit as absolutist as a DAESH member. You share the same worldview. The enemy is not like us, they are monsters.
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Mortedeamor wrote:Niarudi wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:i havnt the foggiest idea why they ask me to marry them considering i find it insulting that they think ide even consider it ..as for me being a bigot i can accept that when it comes to muslims i just flat out dont like them,,,.im not saying they are all terrorists ...im saying idc if they are or not i stopped standing up for the innocent muslims when i started losing people i love due to the inability to sort through them... Did you serve in Iraq or Afghanistan by any chance? no im just that ******* practical sometimes i guess i can be cruel but my bf is military he has served in Afghanistan and iraq and ive heard enough horror stories it is impossible to sort through them...and trying to do so is going to and has cost us ... i have some pretty bad ptsd i go to a support group of veterans and listen to their stories i have always felt honored that they allow me to come i am not a veteran i simply have ptsd but after listening to story after story i have started seeing it in this black and white fashion we cant sort them there is just no way to do it and trying to do is has cost a lot of lives
Maybe not trying to dominate them?
Maybe letting them manage their own resources and choose their own governments.
The West has never tried a method that didn't involve violence or corruption.
You act like we were sitting on this side of the Atlantic minding our own business and Arabs just decided it was time to kick some ass. It's just ridiculous.
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Takahiro Kashuken
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Posted - 2015.11.15 23:33:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:General Mosquito wrote:
Look at the various calls for nuclear war, which is a gross overreaction to the French taking a punch for a fight they started.
No one wants Nuclear war..... at all. However do you begrudge France for now taking steps toward what they see as 'finishing' the conflict 'you insist they seems to bear a sole responsibility for?' I'd like to believe not because when it comes to violence and conflict morality means so very little in the face of large scale loss of human life and no moralization of 'they struck first' justifies a retaliatory act. A God that demands his people murder to affirm the nature of its existence cannot every truly be worth the credence of thought the devout offer it.
Nuclear is not even needed, it would be overkill but would send a strong message and make lots of glass.
All you need is cruise missiles and just level every single city they have, once the country becomes a parking lot then it is over since you do not just hammer them mentally you also take away any economic potential they had so live is **** for everyone.
Think of what the allies did to dresdan but times it by a 1000 and then some just for the few actions of a small group, non stop bombing until there is nothing left.
I dont balme the french for deciding to bomb the **** out of them, they did bring it on themselves and so be it, reactions and consequences just like the french dude in the matrix said but while this immigration thing is still ongoing most of the EU is at risk to more of these attacks, maybe get austrailia in to sink the boats.
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Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.11.15 23:43:00 -
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I read many things here and some of them need clarifications :
ISIS are NOT muslims. They are fanatics, extremists who uses some words of the Coran to extrapolate wrong ideas. This could be done with any book and any religion (the Bible or the Torah for example).
Their main goal is to tarnish muslims reputation all over the world by attacking them directly. This way, it divides countries and muslims feel rejected.. and join them !!
If you start to mix real muslims with ISIS, you play their game. They only want chaos. They know they don't have the man power and financial power to face occidental countries, so they try to divide them, to scare their people by attacking them directly (and not their army).
Everybody needs to think bigger, to stay united. We must keep living normaly as we always did, and we must NOT fall into fear, and reject muslims.
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Mortedeamor
The Black Masquerade
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Posted - 2015.11.15 23:45:00 -
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Niarudi wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Niarudi wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:i havnt the foggiest idea why they ask me to marry them considering i find it insulting that they think ide even consider it ..as for me being a bigot i can accept that when it comes to muslims i just flat out dont like them,,,.im not saying they are all terrorists ...im saying idc if they are or not i stopped standing up for the innocent muslims when i started losing people i love due to the inability to sort through them... Did you serve in Iraq or Afghanistan by any chance? no im just that ******* practical sometimes i guess i can be cruel but my bf is military he has served in Afghanistan and iraq and ive heard enough horror stories it is impossible to sort through them...and trying to do so is going to and has cost us ... hmmm... ok. I'm only asking because I'm trying to understand where you would be in a situation where you would have Muslim men ask for your marriage (most likely jokingly) AND also see so many radicals that you would be unable (or unwilling) to know the difference between radicals and everyone else. anecdotal evidence is really only that. anecdotal. I'm sorry that you've had a bad experience. Hopefully one day you'll be able to move past that. To show you how a person's viewpoint can be completely relative, my own experiences with Muslim men have been really good so far. I have only known 1 jerk, and only one situation where I would say I was uncomfortable with the topic of conversation (he was telling me how nice it was to have wide hips because it's good for child-birth). But that is by far the exception. One of the nicest men I have ever met (a good father and family man) was Muslim and I loved talking to him and felt safe knowing he was a Security Guard where I worked. On another note, I have felt more hatred and racism from White men, but it would be really ignorant of me to assume that all White men are like this (or that all White men are like Americans, or Germans, or French etc). I feel really heartbroken for France. But the evil people behind this attack are not "Muslims", it is Isis and they are an incredibly dangerous, incredibly delusional splinter group using Islam and rage to fool people into fighting for them. Isis claim to be Muslim but they don't care. They kill Muslims, Christians, Jews, and everyone else, all for their own agenda. Also, I hope your ptsd eventually gets treated or at least becomes manageable. That's something that's really hard to live with, and even harder to explain to other people. I'm sorry.
yeah ptsd is a great relationship ender and i have no trouble believing youve exp more hatred from white men my back has whip marks from white christian men...i have a hard time differentiating between the atrocities because ive never ever met a good muslim my main exp with muslims has been the internet and the are brass rude and assume way more than they should about me .
on the other hand i have had a white catholic male priest console me over what was done to me shown me kindness gave me a sense of balance ...maybe one day i will meet a good muslim and my mindset will change i think that all it will take
but i have such a hard time looking past their culture and seeing the people behind the masks..is why next year my bf is taking me to the middle east to exp the culture im hoping that that aspect of me will change i am undeniably incredibly hateful towards muslims i watch what is done to their women and i see it asa mass reproduction of the darkest years of my life
.im pretty sure i get all this bullshit from muslim men due to looking incredibly persian i dont look white or hispanic even though i am a white hispanic mix. i am heartbroken over france my cousin didnt survive he caught an ak47 round to the chest and i didnt find out till like over 32 hours later..he was 17 never even fired a gun...he was innocent ,,,it enrages me..he was terrified of guns i had to put my guns in the safe when he came to visit...
is like someone went up to my little brother and murdered them in cold blood...i would trade places with him ina heartbeat he didnt deserve to die...it ******* disgusts me that he was killed in the name of religion ...
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Mortedeamor
The Black Masquerade
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Posted - 2015.11.15 23:50:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:True Adamance wrote:General Mosquito wrote:
Look at the various calls for nuclear war, which is a gross overreaction to the French taking a punch for a fight they started.
No one wants Nuclear war..... at all. However do you begrudge France for now taking steps toward what they see as 'finishing' the conflict 'you insist they seems to bear a sole responsibility for?' I'd like to believe not because when it comes to violence and conflict morality means so very little in the face of large scale loss of human life and no moralization of 'they struck first' justifies a retaliatory act. A God that demands his people murder to affirm the nature of its existence cannot every truly be worth the credence of thought the devout offer it. Nuclear is not even needed, it would be overkill but would send a strong message and make lots of glass. All you need is cruise missiles and just level every single city they have, once the country becomes a parking lot then it is over since you do not just hammer them mentally you also take away any economic potential they had so live is **** for everyone. Think of what the allies did to dresdan but times it by a 1000 and then some just for the few actions of a small group, non stop bombing until there is nothing left. I dont balme the french for deciding to bomb the **** out of them, they did bring it on themselves and so be it, reactions and consequences just like the french dude in the matrix said but while this immigration thing is still ongoing most of the EU is at risk to more of these attacks, maybe get austrailia in to sink the boats.
nuclear is a bit overkill but wouldnt it be lovely to see all that sand turned to glass...thats not gunna happen but i do think we should level their cities wipe out their infrastructure
whatever needs to be done to end this conflict now should be done
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
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Posted - 2015.11.15 23:52:00 -
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Im Aspie with ptsd combined with borderline personality dissorder.
And i still manage relationship, it is quite hard but i trying and even without meds.
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Mortedeamor
The Black Masquerade
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Posted - 2015.11.15 23:52:00 -
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General Mosquito wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Niarudi wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:i havnt the foggiest idea why they ask me to marry them considering i find it insulting that they think ide even consider it ..as for me being a bigot i can accept that when it comes to muslims i just flat out dont like them,,,.im not saying they are all terrorists ...im saying idc if they are or not i stopped standing up for the innocent muslims when i started losing people i love due to the inability to sort through them... Did you serve in Iraq or Afghanistan by any chance? no im just that ******* practical sometimes i guess i can be cruel but my bf is military he has served in Afghanistan and iraq and ive heard enough horror stories it is impossible to sort through them...and trying to do so is going to and has cost us ... i have some pretty bad ptsd i go to a support group of veterans and listen to their stories i have always felt honored that they allow me to come i am not a veteran i simply have ptsd but after listening to story after story i have started seeing it in this black and white fashion we cant sort them there is just no way to do it and trying to do is has cost a lot of lives Maybe not trying to dominate them? Maybe letting them manage their own resources and choose their own governments. The West has never tried a method that didn't involve violence or corruption. You act like we were sitting on this side of the Atlantic minding our own business and Arabs just decided it was time to kick some ass. It's just ridiculous.
do u really think leaving them alone will solve the problem i dont thatll just give the time to plan worse attacks
time to build up ..when they should be broken down
it doesnt matter what started this all that matters is that it ends now however it can be done
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
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True Adamance wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Honestly i do not see nuclear war like gross overreact, we already using warheads with uranium as aditive.
And i will be for few crushing strikes, than one neverending war.
Im really honest here.
They already used yperit, why we should wait for time when they will use something stronger near our borders. I..... don't think you want people in positions of power getting used to or thinking that is acceptable to use such weapons as a common military asset. Moreover I don't believe that depleted Uranium rounds a requires any longer in terms of modern theoretic tank combat as the KEP or APFSDS rounds can tear penetrate the thickest of armours , flash vaporise, and then suck the crew out of a hole in their tank with a diameter the size of the 50 cent piece.
I dont know what technology they have now.
Im my time it was uranium shell what burn through the panzer.
I just honestly think there should be something what can clearly and one way send message what we think about this scoundrels.
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
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Posted - 2015.11.16 00:14:00 -
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Sequal's Back wrote:I read many things here and some of them need clarifications :
ISIS are NOT muslims. They are fanatics, extremists who uses some words of the Coran to extrapolate wrong ideas. This could be done with any book and any religion (the Bible or the Torah for example).
Their main goal is to tarnish muslims reputation all over the world by attacking them directly. This way, it divides countries and muslims feel rejected.. and join them !!
If you start to mix real muslims with ISIS, you play their game. They only want chaos. They know they don't have the man power and financial power to face occidental countries, so they try to divide them, to scare their people by attacking them directly (and not their army).
Everybody needs to think bigger, to stay united. We must keep living normaly as we always did. We must NOT fall into fear, and we must not reject muslims.
Same book
Doesn't help that the vast majority of silent muslims actually agree with the extremists
Muslims tarnish there own reputation when they come over to a new country say the UK then demand sharia law or start up **** gangs which only attack white girls which has happened far too much and nothing is said yet again because of the fear of being called racist.
If we reject muslims then attacks like this cannot happen because attacks like this are carried out by muslims so if no muslims then no attacks, the west is far too welcoming you wont get saudi arabia opening there arms to christians, they dont even allow churches to be built yet in the west we keep opening mosques like supermarkets.
While you will say its only a small % of the muslim population there is over 1 billion of them, 10% which openly agree with ISIS is 100 million let alone how mnay silently agree with them.
It is only going to get worse if you ignore the problem
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2015.11.16 00:18:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:Honestly i do not see nuclear war like gross overreact, we already using warheads with uranium as aditive.
And i will be for few crushing strikes, than one neverending war.
Im really honest here.
They already used yperit, why we should wait for time when they will use something stronger near our borders.
It sets a bad precedent. Then every country will acquire nuclear weapons on the basis that they are protecting themselves from insurgents.
Also, the ongoing war isn't because the bombs aren't strong enough. Rather it's a fight against ideology based on body count.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2015.11.16 00:27:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:
While you will say its only a small % of the muslim population there is over 1 billion of them, 10% which openly agree with ISIS is 100 million let alone how mnay silently agree with them.
It is only going to get worse if you ignore the problem
It will actually get better. When Southern and Eastern European people came to the U.S in the 19th and early 20th centuries people from the U.S reacted very violently and insisted that Europeans brought only their mafia criminality, dangerous Catholic religion and that they took all jobs from hard working Americans because they worked for less and were generally unskilled.
How History repeats itself. Then, after several decades those worries have disappeared.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
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Posted - 2015.11.16 00:39:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:
While you will say its only a small % of the muslim population there is over 1 billion of them, 10% which openly agree with ISIS is 100 million let alone how mnay silently agree with them.
It is only going to get worse if you ignore the problem
It will actually get better. When Southern and Eastern European people came to the U.S in the 19th and early 20th centuries people from the U.S reacted very violently and insisted that Europeans brought only their mafia criminality, dangerous Catholic religion and that they took all jobs from hard working Americans because they worked for less and were generally unskilled. How History repeats itself. Then, after several decades those worries have disappeared.
No it wont, muslims fail to adapt and expect the target country to adapt to there way of life and they force it on the countries population in ways such as sharia law.
In parts of the UK you would think it was iraq if it wasnt for the rain, hearing the call to prayer blasting out while tehy try to inflict sharia law on the local population.
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2015.11.16 01:09:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:
It will actually get better. When Southern and Eastern European people came to the U.S in the 19th and early 20th centuries people from the U.S reacted very violently and insisted that Europeans brought only their mafia criminality, dangerous Catholic religion and that they took all jobs from hard working Americans because they worked for less and were generally unskilled.
How History repeats itself. Then, after several decades those worries have disappeared.
No it wont, muslims fail to adapt and expect the target country to adapt to there way of life and they force it on the countries population in ways such as sharia law. In parts of the UK you would think it was iraq if it wasnt for the rain, hearing the call to prayer blasting out while tehy try to inflict sharia law on the local population.
Muslim havens in Europe are no different from China Towns and Italian/Irish/Jewish slums of America of the past. There were a surprising number of riots against these people in their respective sub communities by the majority population who were not first or second generation people.
You can say it won't get better, but you're wrong. It always has.
This isn't the first time Muslims have "invaded" Europe. Muslims came into Southern Spain and stayed their for centuries along with the Jews until they were forced out by the Catholic Church. Those who stayed became Catholic. Even now many Southern Spanish are of Arab decent.
People will always change, and there children will be a product of their environment. That's the way it is. It won't come as quick as anyone wants, but if you look at history you will see that progress is often slow. It may not happen in our lifetimes, but many things won't. In this age where technology and fashion moves so quickly we often forget that many things will simply refuse to yield to acceleration, and one of those things is ideology.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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General Mosquito
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.11.16 01:16:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:General Mosquito wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Niarudi wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:i havnt the foggiest idea why they ask me to marry them considering i find it insulting that they think ide even consider it ..as for me being a bigot i can accept that when it comes to muslims i just flat out dont like them,,,.im not saying they are all terrorists ...im saying idc if they are or not i stopped standing up for the innocent muslims when i started losing people i love due to the inability to sort through them... Did you serve in Iraq or Afghanistan by any chance? no im just that ******* practical sometimes i guess i can be cruel but my bf is military he has served in Afghanistan and iraq and ive heard enough horror stories it is impossible to sort through them...and trying to do so is going to and has cost us ... i have some pretty bad ptsd i go to a support group of veterans and listen to their stories i have always felt honored that they allow me to come i am not a veteran i simply have ptsd but after listening to story after story i have started seeing it in this black and white fashion we cant sort them there is just no way to do it and trying to do is has cost a lot of lives Maybe not trying to dominate them? Maybe letting them manage their own resources and choose their own governments. The West has never tried a method that didn't involve violence or corruption. You act like we were sitting on this side of the Atlantic minding our own business and Arabs just decided it was time to kick some ass. It's just ridiculous. do u really think leaving them alone will solve the problem i dont thatll just give the time to plan worse attacks time to build up ..when they should be broken down it doesnt matter what started this all that matters is that it ends now however it can be done
We built them up.
DAESH is the result of an unjust war on Iraq. It is the result of the heinous crimes committed against Arabs in our name.
Is it your contention that we have ever been positive for civilians in the middle East?
You cannot end a movement that is fed by oppressive acts by committing more oppressive acts. No amount of violence will quell the desire for self sufficiency and self determination that resides with every single human being.
And of course, do not forgot who radicalized them. It was our ally in Saudi Arabia. DAESH is literally the chickens coming home to roost, and all you want to do is build more coops in the hope it will turn out different.
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
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Posted - 2015.11.16 01:19:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:
It will actually get better. When Southern and Eastern European people came to the U.S in the 19th and early 20th centuries people from the U.S reacted very violently and insisted that Europeans brought only their mafia criminality, dangerous Catholic religion and that they took all jobs from hard working Americans because they worked for less and were generally unskilled.
How History repeats itself. Then, after several decades those worries have disappeared.
No it wont, muslims fail to adapt and expect the target country to adapt to there way of life and they force it on the countries population in ways such as sharia law. In parts of the UK you would think it was iraq if it wasnt for the rain, hearing the call to prayer blasting out while tehy try to inflict sharia law on the local population. Muslim havens in Europe are no different from China Towns and Italian/Irish/Jewish slums of America of the past. There were a surprising number of riots against these people in their respective sub communities by the majority population who were not first or second generation people. You can say it won't get better, but you're wrong. It always has. This isn't the first time Muslims have "invaded" Europe. Muslims came into Southern Spain and stayed their for centuries along with the Jews until they were forced out by the Catholic Church. Those who stayed became Catholic. Even now many Southern Spanish are of Arab decent. People will always change, and there children will be a product of their environment. That's the way it is. It won't come as quick as anyone wants, but if you look at history you will see that progress is often slow. It may not happen in our lifetimes, but many things won't. In this age where technology and fashion moves so quickly we often forget that many things will simply refuse to yield to acceleration, and one of those things is ideology.
At least with china towns i dont have to worry about getting bombed if i go to see a concert.
Yonger and younger these terrorists become, they are already the next generation in line and with the world and technology you can spread propaganda even quicker, it wont die in time while technology is so simple and easy to use, it is not the time of the pigeon and mail.
Progress has never been faster, jihadis can jihad faster and recruit quicker than ever before and it will get worse before it gets better that is if it does get better.
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General Mosquito
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
384
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Posted - 2015.11.16 01:19:00 -
[260] - Quote
Takahiro Kashuken wrote:True Adamance wrote:General Mosquito wrote:
Look at the various calls for nuclear war, which is a gross overreaction to the French taking a punch for a fight they started.
No one wants Nuclear war..... at all. However do you begrudge France for now taking steps toward what they see as 'finishing' the conflict 'you insist they seems to bear a sole responsibility for?' I'd like to believe not because when it comes to violence and conflict morality means so very little in the face of large scale loss of human life and no moralization of 'they struck first' justifies a retaliatory act. A God that demands his people murder to affirm the nature of its existence cannot every truly be worth the credence of thought the devout offer it. Nuclear is not even needed, it would be overkill but would send a strong message and make lots of glass. All you need is cruise missiles and just level every single city they have, once the country becomes a parking lot then it is over since you do not just hammer them mentally you also take away any economic potential they had so live is **** for everyone. Think of what the allies did to dresdan but times it by a 1000 and then some just for the few actions of a small group, non stop bombing until there is nothing left. I dont balme the french for deciding to bomb the **** out of them, they did bring it on themselves and so be it, reactions and consequences just like the french dude in the matrix said but while this immigration thing is still ongoing most of the EU is at risk to more of these attacks, maybe get austrailia in to sink the boats.
Wow, kill millions of civilians just because you don't like them.
Go and rinse your mouth out with buckshot. Make the world a better place.
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General Mosquito
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
384
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Posted - 2015.11.16 01:20:00 -
[261] - Quote
Takahiro Kashuken wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:
It will actually get better. When Southern and Eastern European people came to the U.S in the 19th and early 20th centuries people from the U.S reacted very violently and insisted that Europeans brought only their mafia criminality, dangerous Catholic religion and that they took all jobs from hard working Americans because they worked for less and were generally unskilled.
How History repeats itself. Then, after several decades those worries have disappeared.
No it wont, muslims fail to adapt and expect the target country to adapt to there way of life and they force it on the countries population in ways such as sharia law. In parts of the UK you would think it was iraq if it wasnt for the rain, hearing the call to prayer blasting out while tehy try to inflict sharia law on the local population. Muslim havens in Europe are no different from China Towns and Italian/Irish/Jewish slums of America of the past. There were a surprising number of riots against these people in their respective sub communities by the majority population who were not first or second generation people. You can say it won't get better, but you're wrong. It always has. This isn't the first time Muslims have "invaded" Europe. Muslims came into Southern Spain and stayed their for centuries along with the Jews until they were forced out by the Catholic Church. Those who stayed became Catholic. Even now many Southern Spanish are of Arab decent. People will always change, and there children will be a product of their environment. That's the way it is. It won't come as quick as anyone wants, but if you look at history you will see that progress is often slow. It may not happen in our lifetimes, but many things won't. In this age where technology and fashion moves so quickly we often forget that many things will simply refuse to yield to acceleration, and one of those things is ideology. At least with china towns i dont have to worry about getting bombed if i go to see a concert. Yonger and younger these terrorists become, they are already the next generation in line and with the world and technology you can spread propaganda even quicker, it wont die in time while technology is so simple and easy to use, it is not the time of the pigeon and mail. Progress has never been faster, jihadis can jihad faster and recruit quicker than ever before and it will get worse before it gets better that is if it does get better.
Such racism and ignorance. Much wow.
Your worse talking politics than pretending your a good tanker.
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
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Posted - 2015.11.16 01:22:00 -
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General Mosquito wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:True Adamance wrote:General Mosquito wrote:
Look at the various calls for nuclear war, which is a gross overreaction to the French taking a punch for a fight they started.
No one wants Nuclear war..... at all. However do you begrudge France for now taking steps toward what they see as 'finishing' the conflict 'you insist they seems to bear a sole responsibility for?' I'd like to believe not because when it comes to violence and conflict morality means so very little in the face of large scale loss of human life and no moralization of 'they struck first' justifies a retaliatory act. A God that demands his people murder to affirm the nature of its existence cannot every truly be worth the credence of thought the devout offer it. Nuclear is not even needed, it would be overkill but would send a strong message and make lots of glass. All you need is cruise missiles and just level every single city they have, once the country becomes a parking lot then it is over since you do not just hammer them mentally you also take away any economic potential they had so live is **** for everyone. Think of what the allies did to dresdan but times it by a 1000 and then some just for the few actions of a small group, non stop bombing until there is nothing left. I dont balme the french for deciding to bomb the **** out of them, they did bring it on themselves and so be it, reactions and consequences just like the french dude in the matrix said but while this immigration thing is still ongoing most of the EU is at risk to more of these attacks, maybe get austrailia in to sink the boats. Wow, kill millions of civilians just because you don't like them. Go and rinse your mouth out with buckshot. Make the world a better place.
They already dont like us so whats the difference?
I would rarther use that buickshot for something else but gun laws are quite tight here.
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Mortedeamor
The Black Masquerade
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Posted - 2015.11.16 01:22:00 -
[263] - Quote
Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:I read many things here and some of them need clarifications :
ISIS are NOT muslims. They are fanatics, extremists who uses some words of the Coran to extrapolate wrong ideas. This could be done with any book and any religion (the Bible or the Torah for example).
Their main goal is to tarnish muslims reputation all over the world by attacking them directly. This way, it divides countries and muslims feel rejected.. and join them !!
If you start to mix real muslims with ISIS, you play their game. They only want chaos. They know they don't have the man power and financial power to face occidental countries, so they try to divide them, to scare their people by attacking them directly (and not their army).
Everybody needs to think bigger, to stay united. We must keep living normaly as we always did. We must NOT fall into fear, and we must not reject muslims. Same book Doesn't help that the vast majority of silent muslims actually agree with the extremists Muslims tarnish there own reputation when they come over to a new country say the UK then demand sharia law or start up **** gangs which only attack white girls which has happened far too much and nothing is said yet again because of the fear of being called racist. If we reject muslims then attacks like this cannot happen because attacks like this are carried out by muslims so if no muslims then no attacks, the west is far too welcoming you wont get saudi arabia opening there arms to christians, they dont even allow churches to be built yet in the west we keep opening mosques like supermarkets. While you will say its only a small % of the muslim population there is over 1 billion of them, 10% which openly agree with ISIS is 100 million let alone how mnay silently agree with them. It is only going to get worse if you ignore the problem
Gotta say I agree with takahiro..on this
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:
At least with china towns i dont have to worry about getting bombed if i go to see a concert.
Yonger and younger these terrorists become, they are already the next generation in line and with the world and technology you can spread propaganda even quicker, it wont die in time while technology is so simple and easy to use, it is not the time of the pigeon and mail.
Progress has never been faster, jihadis can jihad faster and recruit quicker than ever before and it will get worse before it gets better that is if it does get better.
You are thinking of modern China Towns which are the result of over 150 years of letting gangs die out. In the Wild West they actually brought in smiths to make them spears, battle axes, swords, daggers and shields. They were extremely violent in their inception.
How about the Jews and Italians? Mafias were the terrorists on the early 20th century. They were so bad the FBI had to be made.
Everything gets better with time. Also, ideologies tend to die out faster now that technology is so prevalent. It's not the Apocalypse. Trust me, things will eventually get better. As long as we stay out of it. The more we choose to bomb them the longer the fighting will go on.
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Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd.
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(hangs head in remberence of the fallen)
for the fallen unfourtanets may thier poor soul's R.I.P.
for those that have sinned and killed during this outrageous attack on france. may they never know peace or salvation. only despair and pain is all that awaits for them in thier after life.
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General Mosquito
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.11.16 02:25:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:General Mosquito wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:True Adamance wrote:General Mosquito wrote:
Look at the various calls for nuclear war, which is a gross overreaction to the French taking a punch for a fight they started.
No one wants Nuclear war..... at all. However do you begrudge France for now taking steps toward what they see as 'finishing' the conflict 'you insist they seems to bear a sole responsibility for?' I'd like to believe not because when it comes to violence and conflict morality means so very little in the face of large scale loss of human life and no moralization of 'they struck first' justifies a retaliatory act. A God that demands his people murder to affirm the nature of its existence cannot every truly be worth the credence of thought the devout offer it. Nuclear is not even needed, it would be overkill but would send a strong message and make lots of glass. All you need is cruise missiles and just level every single city they have, once the country becomes a parking lot then it is over since you do not just hammer them mentally you also take away any economic potential they had so live is **** for everyone. Think of what the allies did to dresdan but times it by a 1000 and then some just for the few actions of a small group, non stop bombing until there is nothing left. I dont balme the french for deciding to bomb the **** out of them, they did bring it on themselves and so be it, reactions and consequences just like the french dude in the matrix said but while this immigration thing is still ongoing most of the EU is at risk to more of these attacks, maybe get austrailia in to sink the boats. Wow, kill millions of civilians just because you don't like them. Go and rinse your mouth out with buckshot. Make the world a better place. They already dont like us so whats the difference? I would rarther use that buickshot for something else but gun laws are quite tight here.
You think they don't have a reason?
We tortured them, overthrew their governments, took their resources, and installed tyrants. We also supported a massive open air prison and the people who disrespect their holy sites.
Now, their violence is horrid, and evil. But to act like we did nothing to earn their hatred is part of the problem. As long as people perpetuate this sick Orientalism and let the media turn them into some inscrutable other who is unable to see reason and naturally violent(which is of course not true), then this is merely another turn on a wheel that will continue to turn.
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General Mosquito
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.11.16 02:29:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:I read many things here and some of them need clarifications :
ISIS are NOT muslims. They are fanatics, extremists who uses some words of the Coran to extrapolate wrong ideas. This could be done with any book and any religion (the Bible or the Torah for example).
Their main goal is to tarnish muslims reputation all over the world by attacking them directly. This way, it divides countries and muslims feel rejected.. and join them !!
If you start to mix real muslims with ISIS, you play their game. They only want chaos. They know they don't have the man power and financial power to face occidental countries, so they try to divide them, to scare their people by attacking them directly (and not their army).
Everybody needs to think bigger, to stay united. We must keep living normaly as we always did. We must NOT fall into fear, and we must not reject muslims. Same book Doesn't help that the vast majority of silent muslims actually agree with the extremists Muslims tarnish there own reputation when they come over to a new country say the UK then demand sharia law or start up **** gangs which only attack white girls which has happened far too much and nothing is said yet again because of the fear of being called racist. If we reject muslims then attacks like this cannot happen because attacks like this are carried out by muslims so if no muslims then no attacks, the west is far too welcoming you wont get saudi arabia opening there arms to christians, they dont even allow churches to be built yet in the west we keep opening mosques like supermarkets. While you will say its only a small % of the muslim population there is over 1 billion of them, 10% which openly agree with ISIS is 100 million let alone how mnay silently agree with them. It is only going to get worse if you ignore the problem Gotta say I agree with takahiro..on this
Well of course ignorant racists are going to agree.
Pretty sure you would find yourself in solid agreement with Klansman and Neonazis as well on this one.
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
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Posted - 2015.11.16 02:40:00 -
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General Mosquito wrote:
You think they don't have a reason?
We tortured them, overthrew their governments, took their resources, and installed tyrants. We also supported a massive open air prison and the people who disrespect their holy sites.
Now, their violence is horrid, and evil. But to act like we did nothing to earn their hatred is part of the problem. As long as people perpetuate this sick Orientalism and let the media turn them into some inscrutable other who is unable to see reason and naturally violent(which is of course not true), then this is merely another turn on a wheel that will continue to turn.
They were ransacking settlements well before the christian crusades even took place does that mean we have an open goal in which to hit them?
We can play this game time and again of who shot who, the west have taken an intrest in the ME because of oil or to defned isreal etc but if your gonna play that game expect to get hit, france got hit now thjey gonna rain hell on whoever for retaliation.
Both sides are at fault no matter what but really the west should not bother and keep out and give the final ultimatium 'if you attack in any shape or form us or our allies we will turn you into rubble using any means nessasary'
Meddling in the ME has brought nothing but problems all for oil, take the oil away from the ME and they become irrelevent.
Both sides have reasons, i can go back before the crusades when muslims attacked christians etc just how far back do you want to go?
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
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Posted - 2015.11.16 02:49:00 -
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General Mosquito wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:I read many things here and some of them need clarifications :
ISIS are NOT muslims. They are fanatics, extremists who uses some words of the Coran to extrapolate wrong ideas. This could be done with any book and any religion (the Bible or the Torah for example).
Their main goal is to tarnish muslims reputation all over the world by attacking them directly. This way, it divides countries and muslims feel rejected.. and join them !!
If you start to mix real muslims with ISIS, you play their game. They only want chaos. They know they don't have the man power and financial power to face occidental countries, so they try to divide them, to scare their people by attacking them directly (and not their army).
Everybody needs to think bigger, to stay united. We must keep living normaly as we always did. We must NOT fall into fear, and we must not reject muslims. Same book Doesn't help that the vast majority of silent muslims actually agree with the extremists Muslims tarnish there own reputation when they come over to a new country say the UK then demand sharia law or start up **** gangs which only attack white girls which has happened far too much and nothing is said yet again because of the fear of being called racist. If we reject muslims then attacks like this cannot happen because attacks like this are carried out by muslims so if no muslims then no attacks, the west is far too welcoming you wont get saudi arabia opening there arms to christians, they dont even allow churches to be built yet in the west we keep opening mosques like supermarkets. While you will say its only a small % of the muslim population there is over 1 billion of them, 10% which openly agree with ISIS is 100 million let alone how mnay silently agree with them. It is only going to get worse if you ignore the problem Gotta say I agree with takahiro..on this Well of course ignorant racists are going to agree. Pretty sure you would find yourself in solid agreement with Klansman and Neonazis as well on this one.
Keep shouting your favourite buzzword, god forbid if anyone has a different opinion to your leftist leaning hippy BS.
I am a realist and everytime muslims enter something bad happens, UK **** gangs run wild, france terrorist incidents, sweden more **** gangs etc
So far im not seeing anything good about this invasion, im seeing the breaking down of various countries which want to protect there national identity but cant because people like you are quick to shout racist.
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Maphia Clan Corporation
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General Mosquito wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Some of the arguments here are like stupid.
It's like Japanese people seeking for revenge because of WWII facts-
I guess we're not safe here in Italy then: I heard people are raising an army in Tunisia because, you know, we destroyed Carthage a "while" back and never gave them the status of "cives". Today's people must be very angry for that reason. Iraq got destroyed with the last 15 years, and troops are still on the ground. This is not deep past. Americans were torturing DAESH members less than 10 years ago. They supervised the ethnic cleansing of Baghdad less than 10 years ago. The majority of DAESH leadership comes from Saddams army, which Bremer disbanded after the invasion. These things matter. DAESH doesn't exist becuase Muslims hate freedom. It exists because rampaging across a country, randomly arresting and torturing people, then firing them from their jobs and standing back while death squads kill 60 plus people a day tends to make people angry. This is living memory, or it should be. Even though the attack that DAESH does commit or assuredly crimes, not understanding how they came to be will only create more like them.
Indeed this is a reaction "war". I was just being ironical. The thing is, if any state reacted to any kind of "mistake" or "wrong war" (read first and second Gulf War) humanity wouldn't exist anymore. It is a vicious circle where everyone seek revenge and if people keep acting like this, the whole conflict would escalate into something much worse than terrorism.
I know I might not be clear here:
let's pretend Japan never surrendered after Hiroshima and Nagasaki, developing and launching its own nukes.
Or that Japanese people, after being defeated seeked revenge years later, launching an attack of the same proportions.
Or think about the Cuban Missile Crisis where both parts had to peacefully solve the problem in order to prevent a nuclear apocalypse.
Revenge, is not an excuse. If innocent have been killed, how would killing other innocents be a relief?
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Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game
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General Mosquito wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:
At least with china towns i dont have to worry about getting bombed if i go to see a concert.
Yonger and younger these terrorists become, they are already the next generation in line and with the world and technology you can spread propaganda even quicker, it wont die in time while technology is so simple and easy to use, it is not the time of the pigeon and mail.
Progress has never been faster, jihadis can jihad faster and recruit quicker than ever before and it will get worse before it gets better that is if it does get better.
Such racism and ignorance. Much wow. Your worse talking politics than pretending your a good tanker.
^^^
So much racism and bullsh.t is terrifying. It's because of thoughts like yours that IS does terrorist attacks. So that you start fearing muslims and reject them thinking they are all terrorists.
You need to be educated, to read more, so you can maybe be less ignorant.
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IVIaster LUKE
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Political Correctness? 
If it walks like a Duck, quacks like a Duck and acts like a Duck. It must be a platypus!
I just wish the Poly C.O.C.K.S. would be sent 1st before our troops. That way they could try to TALK THEM TO DEATH.
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IVIaster LUKE
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Posted - 2015.11.16 11:09:00 -
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General Mosquito wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:i havnt the foggiest idea why they ask me to marry them considering i find it insulting that they think ide even consider it ..as for me being a bigot i can accept that when it comes to muslims i just flat out dont like them,,,.im not saying they are all terrorists ...im saying idc if they are or not i stopped standing up for the innocent muslims when i started losing people i love due to the inability to sort through them...
it doesnt matter if all of them are terrible people because i cant distinguish the good ones from the bad ones ie they are all bad is a safer approach ide rather be a bigot and have them all tossed out and treated the same than try to be a kink person and have terrorists slip through my fingers
look at what not being a bigot got france? they accepted that there are good msulims let them into thier country and not the bad muslims are burning thier country down ...if they were more biggoted that wouldn't have happened because they wouldn't have let the muslims in...because it would be to high a risk
our humanity fucks us when it comes to the muslims you try to be good the the ones that deserve it it leaves and opening for terrorism...you try to preserve civilian life your seen as weak..brutality is what they know brutality is what they should be shown If you choose to give up your humanity because you can't be bothered to sort out people from criminals, then why should your enemy not do the same? You demand the sanctity of civilians on one side only, and it is disgusting. You want blood because you lost a friend, and cannot understand the other side wanting the same. So your retribution is justified, but theirs is terrorism. If people were not going to die becuase of people like you thinking that garbage it would be funny. What is most depressing is you and that attitude are every bit as absolutist as a DAESH member. You share the same worldview. The enemy is not like us, they are monsters.
Let's parachute your @ss into ISIL lands and let you do some reasoning with your peeps.
Put that money where your mouth is. =ƒûò
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IVIaster LUKE
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Posted - 2015.11.16 12:32:00 -
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ISIL are not Moslems? GTFO
What other religion uses Caliphate?
What other religion has Mickey Mouse dressed as a suicide bomber teaching children how to be martyrs?
I'm playing music in the background while I type this. =ƒûò
*cranks up* Eagles of Death.
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Mortedeamor
The Black Masquerade
2
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Posted - 2015.11.16 12:58:00 -
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General Mosquito wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:I read many things here and some of them need clarifications :
ISIS are NOT muslims. They are fanatics, extremists who uses some words of the Coran to extrapolate wrong ideas. This could be done with any book and any religion (the Bible or the Torah for example).
Their main goal is to tarnish muslims reputation all over the world by attacking them directly. This way, it divides countries and muslims feel rejected.. and join them !!
If you start to mix real muslims with ISIS, you play their game. They only want chaos. They know they don't have the man power and financial power to face occidental countries, so they try to divide them, to scare their people by attacking them directly (and not their army).
Everybody needs to think bigger, to stay united. We must keep living normaly as we always did. We must NOT fall into fear, and we must not reject muslims. Same book Doesn't help that the vast majority of silent muslims actually agree with the extremists Muslims tarnish there own reputation when they come over to a new country say the UK then demand sharia law or start up **** gangs which only attack white girls which has happened far too much and nothing is said yet again because of the fear of being called racist. If we reject muslims then attacks like this cannot happen because attacks like this are carried out by muslims so if no muslims then no attacks, the west is far too welcoming you wont get saudi arabia opening there arms to christians, they dont even allow churches to be built yet in the west we keep opening mosques like supermarkets. While you will say its only a small % of the muslim population there is over 1 billion of them, 10% which openly agree with ISIS is 100 million let alone how mnay silently agree with them. It is only going to get worse if you ignore the problem Gotta say I agree with takahiro..on this Well of course ignorant racists are going to agree. Pretty sure you would find yourself in solid agreement with Klansman and Neonazis as well on this one.
lol you dont know me at all i have suffered tremendously at the hands of the Aryan brotherhood
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Mortedeamor
The Black Masquerade
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Posted - 2015.11.16 12:59:00 -
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IVIaster LUKE wrote:General Mosquito wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:i havnt the foggiest idea why they ask me to marry them considering i find it insulting that they think ide even consider it ..as for me being a bigot i can accept that when it comes to muslims i just flat out dont like them,,,.im not saying they are all terrorists ...im saying idc if they are or not i stopped standing up for the innocent muslims when i started losing people i love due to the inability to sort through them...
it doesnt matter if all of them are terrible people because i cant distinguish the good ones from the bad ones ie they are all bad is a safer approach ide rather be a bigot and have them all tossed out and treated the same than try to be a kink person and have terrorists slip through my fingers
look at what not being a bigot got france? they accepted that there are good msulims let them into thier country and not the bad muslims are burning thier country down ...if they were more biggoted that wouldn't have happened because they wouldn't have let the muslims in...because it would be to high a risk
our humanity fucks us when it comes to the muslims you try to be good the the ones that deserve it it leaves and opening for terrorism...you try to preserve civilian life your seen as weak..brutality is what they know brutality is what they should be shown If you choose to give up your humanity because you can't be bothered to sort out people from criminals, then why should your enemy not do the same? You demand the sanctity of civilians on one side only, and it is disgusting. You want blood because you lost a friend, and cannot understand the other side wanting the same. So your retribution is justified, but theirs is terrorism. If people were not going to die becuase of people like you thinking that garbage it would be funny. What is most depressing is you and that attitude are every bit as absolutist as a DAESH member. You share the same worldview. The enemy is not like us, they are monsters. @General 'Admission' Skeeter - Let's parachute your @ss into ISIL lands and let you do some reasoning with your peeps. Put that money where your mouth is. =ƒûò
ide like to see that you go over there and try and speak reason ill enjoy watching a video of your beheading
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Mortedeamor
The Black Masquerade
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Posted - 2015.11.16 13:10:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:General Mosquito wrote:
You think they don't have a reason?
We tortured them, overthrew their governments, took their resources, and installed tyrants. We also supported a massive open air prison and the people who disrespect their holy sites.
Now, their violence is horrid, and evil. But to act like we did nothing to earn their hatred is part of the problem. As long as people perpetuate this sick Orientalism and let the media turn them into some inscrutable other who is unable to see reason and naturally violent(which is of course not true), then this is merely another turn on a wheel that will continue to turn.
They were ransacking settlements well before the christian crusades even took place does that mean we have an open goal in which to hit them? We can play this game time and again of who shot who, the west have taken an intrest in the ME because of oil or to defned isreal etc but if your gonna play that game expect to get hit, france got hit now thjey gonna rain hell on whoever for retaliation. Both sides are at fault no matter what but really the west should not bother and keep out and give the final ultimatium 'if you attack in any shape or form us or our allies we will turn you into rubble using any means nessasary' Meddling in the ME has brought nothing but problems all for oil, take the oil away from the ME and they become irrelevent. Both sides have reasons, i can go back before the crusades when muslims attacked christians etc just how far back do you want to go?
i mean seriously they have been slaughtering each other and others for over a thousand years nothing has changed you can say its our fault for oppressing them well whos fault was it a millennium ago ? no other group of people has a majority who believe the death sentence is justified for leaving the RELIGION
The Pew Research Center also found that support for the death penalty as punishment for "people who leave the Muslim religion" was 86% in Jordan, 84% in Egypt, 76% in Pakistan, 80% in Nigeria (all very large Muslim populations) and yet lower in some other countries.[120] The different factors at play (e.g. sectarianism, poverty, etc.) and their relative impacts are not clarified.
these people are violent always have been their religion is founded on war...some of allahs first apostles swore their mandate was to slaughter and force the religion on others until all worshiped allah
Narrated Anas ibn Malik:
Allah's Apostle said, "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.' And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally and their reckoning will be with Allah." Narrated Maimun ibn Siyah that he asked Anas bin Malik, "O Abu Hamza! What makes the life and property of a person sacred?" He replied, "Whoever says, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah', faces our Qibla during the prayers, prays like us and eats our slaughtered animal, then he is a Muslim, and has got the same rights and obligations as other Muslims have."
GÇöGÇëSahih al-Bukhari, 1:8:387 and Sahih al-Bukhari, 1:2:24 see also Sahih Muslim, 1:30,Sahih Muslim, 1:31,Sahih Muslim, 1:32,Sahih Muslim, 1:33,Sahih Muslim, 1:34
your statement that we have caused this is complete bullshit go open a history book
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IVIaster LUKE
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Mortedeamor wrote:IVIaster LUKE wrote:General Mosquito wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:i havnt the foggiest idea why they ask me to marry them considering i find it insulting that they think ide even consider it ..as for me being a bigot i can accept that when it comes to muslims i just flat out dont like them,,,.im not saying they are all terrorists ...im saying idc if they are or not i stopped standing up for the innocent muslims when i started losing people i love due to the inability to sort through them...
it doesnt matter if all of them are terrible people because i cant distinguish the good ones from the bad ones ie they are all bad is a safer approach ide rather be a bigot and have them all tossed out and treated the same than try to be a kink person and have terrorists slip through my fingers
look at what not being a bigot got france? they accepted that there are good msulims let them into thier country and not the bad muslims are burning thier country down ...if they were more biggoted that wouldn't have happened because they wouldn't have let the muslims in...because it would be to high a risk
our humanity fucks us when it comes to the muslims you try to be good the the ones that deserve it it leaves and opening for terrorism...you try to preserve civilian life your seen as weak..brutality is what they know brutality is what they should be shown If you choose to give up your humanity because you can't be bothered to sort out people from criminals, then why should your enemy not do the same? You demand the sanctity of civilians on one side only, and it is disgusting. You want blood because you lost a friend, and cannot understand the other side wanting the same. So your retribution is justified, but theirs is terrorism. If people were not going to die becuase of people like you thinking that garbage it would be funny. What is most depressing is you and that attitude are every bit as absolutist as a DAESH member. You share the same worldview. The enemy is not like us, they are monsters. @General 'Admission' Skeeter - Let's parachute your @ss into ISIL lands and let you do some reasoning with your peeps. Put that money where your mouth is. =ƒûò ide like to see that you go over there and try and speak reason ill enjoy watching a video of your beheading
Exactly! That's why I won't unless the US Marines, French "Old Guard" and Jean Morin's Foreign Legionnaires are with me.
We just shoot them here stateside. Beheadings not so much. Remember we're civilized. We even give them a pillow to rest their head for a proper Moslem burial. 
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Mortedeamor
The Black Masquerade
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Posted - 2015.11.16 13:25:00 -
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IVIaster LUKE wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:IVIaster LUKE wrote:General Mosquito wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:i havnt the foggiest idea why they ask me to marry them considering i find it insulting that they think ide even consider it ..as for me being a bigot i can accept that when it comes to muslims i just flat out dont like them,,,.im not saying they are all terrorists ...im saying idc if they are or not i stopped standing up for the innocent muslims when i started losing people i love due to the inability to sort through them...
it doesnt matter if all of them are terrible people because i cant distinguish the good ones from the bad ones ie they are all bad is a safer approach ide rather be a bigot and have them all tossed out and treated the same than try to be a kink person and have terrorists slip through my fingers
look at what not being a bigot got france? they accepted that there are good msulims let them into thier country and not the bad muslims are burning thier country down ...if they were more biggoted that wouldn't have happened because they wouldn't have let the muslims in...because it would be to high a risk
our humanity fucks us when it comes to the muslims you try to be good the the ones that deserve it it leaves and opening for terrorism...you try to preserve civilian life your seen as weak..brutality is what they know brutality is what they should be shown If you choose to give up your humanity because you can't be bothered to sort out people from criminals, then why should your enemy not do the same? You demand the sanctity of civilians on one side only, and it is disgusting. You want blood because you lost a friend, and cannot understand the other side wanting the same. So your retribution is justified, but theirs is terrorism. If people were not going to die becuase of people like you thinking that garbage it would be funny. What is most depressing is you and that attitude are every bit as absolutist as a DAESH member. You share the same worldview. The enemy is not like us, they are monsters. @General 'Admission' Skeeter - Let's parachute your @ss into ISIL lands and let you do some reasoning with your peeps. Put that money where your mouth is. =ƒûò ide like to see that you go over there and try and speak reason ill enjoy watching a video of your beheading Exactly! That's why I won't unless the US Marines, French "Old Guard" and Jean Morin's Foreign Legionnaires are with me. We just shoot them here stateside. Beheadings not so much. Remember we're civilized. We even give them a pillow to rest their head for a proper Moslem burial.
my bf is taking me with him ona business trip to Tehran next year..in February i believe i will be over there with him for a month ..he has directed me that i am not allowed to leave the embassy without an escort of marines ..and even so when i do leave i have to wear the appropriate clothing to hide my body and face lol the only reason im going is because i really dont want him to be there alone for a month i will enjoy the chance to exp such a medieval culture he told me it will be like stepping into a time machine to the 1200s
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@Mort- If your a Military Veteran (not gaming Vet LOL) I would advise against it.
The Mullahs will be very unforgiving to YOU, if arrested. Remember, it's a Theocracy.
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IVIaster LUKE wrote:@Mort- If your a Military Veteran (not gaming Vet LOL) I would advise against it.
The Mullahs will be very unforgiving to YOU, if arrested. Remember, it's a Theocracy.
oh im not a military veteran lol im the gf of an american diplomat lol
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Ever heard of the christian Inquisition in the middle ages ? These christian were killing and torturing every people they judged infidel. Where does the bible say that killing and torturing is part of the religion??? And still they did!
It's EXACTLY the same thing here. In order to get more power, leaders of IS used the muslim religion to build an Inquisition-like order. Punishing those who don't think the same as them.
Were all the christian inquistor? No. Are all the muslims terrorists? Of course not.
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Pulls Torquemada out of a hat.
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Fatal Absolution
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Mortedeamor wrote:my bf is taking me with him ona business trip to Tehran next year..in February i believe i will be over there with him for a month ..he has directed me that i am not allowed to leave the embassy without an escort of marines ..and even so when i do leave i have to wear the appropriate clothing to hide my body and face lol the only reason im going is because i really dont want him to be there alone for a month i will enjoy the chance to exp such a medieval culture he told me it will be like stepping into a time machine to the 1200s
Holy crap.
https://www.google.ca/search?q=women+in+tehran&client=tablet-android-acer&prmd=ivn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAWoVChMIp4iS9ZuVyQIVx2weCh0QxwLr&biw=1024&bih=600
Do you see a lot of veiled women?
Oh, you meant Saudi Arabia, our bloody ally.
Maybe you should learn who is on whose side.
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General Mosquito wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:my bf is taking me with him ona business trip to Tehran next year..in February i believe i will be over there with him for a month ..he has directed me that i am not allowed to leave the embassy without an escort of marines ..and even so when i do leave i have to wear the appropriate clothing to hide my body and face lol the only reason im going is because i really dont want him to be there alone for a month i will enjoy the chance to exp such a medieval culture he told me it will be like stepping into a time machine to the 1200s Holy crap. https://www.google.ca/search?q=women+in+tehran&client=tablet-android-acer&prmd=ivn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAWoVChMIp4iS9ZuVyQIVx2weCh0QxwLr&biw=1024&bih=600Do you see a lot of veiled women? Oh, you meant Saudi Arabia, our bloody ally. Maybe you should learn who is on whose side.
Well=ƒñö You don't attack Moldybelldick, Belgium since these heinous terrorists came from there either.
Obviously you attack the area from which the idea and facilitation was planned. ISIL....Duh.....
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The Black Masquerade
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Sequal's Back wrote:Ever heard of the christian Inquisition in the middle ages ? These christian were killing and torturing every people they judged infidel. Where does the bible say that killing and torturing is part of the religion??? And still they did!
It's EXACTLY the same thing here. In order to get more power, leaders of IS used the muslim religion to build an Inquisition-like order. Punishing those who don't think the same as them.
Were all the christian inquistor? No. Are all the muslims terrorists? Of course not.
and when was the last inquisition ohb right hundreds of years ago and when was the last time muslims slaughtered in the name of their religion oh right they do that every day
if Christians were going around slaughtering innocents and committing genocide they would be just as hated
look at what they did to the poor yazidis...practically committed genocide
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Just because of this post I knew about the terrorist attacks... I go to school and almost none of the students know this happened... This generation disappoints me.
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Sequal's Back wrote:Ever heard of the christian Inquisition in the middle ages ? These christian were killing and torturing every people they judged infidel. Where does the bible say that killing and torturing is part of the religion??? And still they did!
It's EXACTLY the same thing here. In order to get more power, leaders of IS used the muslim religion to build an Inquisition-like order. Punishing those who don't think the same as them.
Were all the christian inquistor? No. Are all the muslims terrorists? Of course not.
Huge +1 there.
Crusades... Even Christianity has a dark side.
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Dead Man's Game
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Mortedeamor wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:Ever heard of the christian Inquisition in the middle ages ? These christian were killing and torturing every people they judged infidel. Where does the bible say that killing and torturing is part of the religion??? And still they did!
It's EXACTLY the same thing here. In order to get more power, leaders of IS used the muslim religion to build an Inquisition-like order. Punishing those who don't think the same as them.
Were all the christian inquistor? No. Are all the muslims terrorists? Of course not. and when was the last inquisition ohb right hundreds of years ago and when was the last time muslims slaughtered in the name of their religion oh right they do that every day if Christians were going around slaughtering innocents and committing genocide they would be just as hated look at what they did to the poor yazidis...practically committed genocide
How couldn't you understand my point ?
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Corrosive Synergy
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Radiant Pancake3 wrote:Just because of this post I knew about the terrorist attacks... I go to school and almost none of the students know this happened... This generation disappoints me.
I thought you were older, what grade or is it post secondary?
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PLAYSTTION wrote:Radiant Pancake3 wrote:Just because of this post I knew about the terrorist attacks... I go to school and almost none of the students know this happened... This generation disappoints me. I thought you were older, what grade or is it post secondary?
10th. I have all AP classes excluding French and ROTC.
Glad to see I give off an Adult vibe.
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Mortedeamor
The Black Masquerade
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Sequal's Back wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:Ever heard of the christian Inquisition in the middle ages ? These christian were killing and torturing every people they judged infidel. Where does the bible say that killing and torturing is part of the religion??? And still they did!
It's EXACTLY the same thing here. In order to get more power, leaders of IS used the muslim religion to build an Inquisition-like order. Punishing those who don't think the same as them.
Were all the christian inquistor? No. Are all the muslims terrorists? Of course not. and when was the last inquisition ohb right hundreds of years ago and when was the last time muslims slaughtered in the name of their religion oh right they do that every day if Christians were going around slaughtering innocents and committing genocide they would be just as hated look at what they did to the poor yazidis...practically committed genocide How couldn't you understand my point ?
oh i got your point my point is that even the bloody Christians have moved beyond this kind of barbarism meanwhile muslims havnt
trust me i know of the atrocities committed in the name of god by Christians i know first hand what a zealot can do. i have scars to show for it ..but in mass they truly have moved past this sure there are zealots here and there but not like it used to be...nothing like it used to be..
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General Mosquito wrote:
Look at the various calls for nuclear war, which is a gross overreaction to the French taking a punch for a fight they started.
In fact, you are much, much worse of a human being if you are not ignorant of these facts. It would be somewhat understandable if you were unaware of the historical facts surrounding the matter. That you claim to not be ignorant of these facts and are still being overly militaristic shows that you are far worse than someone who was generally ignorant of how we got to here, even just using the last 13 years as a guidepost.
At no point have I called for nukes. I find the idea of them being on the table laughable until and unless someone actually USES one.
I'm not calling for the violence, I am predicting it. There is a difference. I am a student of action/consequence chains. What I see coming is not exactly anything I would wish upon anyone.
I merely state that insurgents, because they are being sponsored by a would-be foreign power that has had an open declaration of war against them should be treated as spies and insurgents under the accepted treaties and rule of law.
I'm not particularly eager for randomly dumping on random civilian populace. I may be a savage, but I am a disciplined and very focused one. The only people I wish torched are the men who planned, supported, knowingly supplied and pulled the trigger.
I am not a fan of incidental "because we can" retaliation which hits civilians and schools or anything else.
I simply believe that if the rage builds more and more that is exactly what will happen.
I am a pragmatist and a cynic, not a person who feels that "kill them all, God will know his own" is an acceptable course of action. I reserve that sh*t for online games where i can vent my aggression and play the villain without actually deliberately causing you physical, psychological or financial harm.
And you "imperialist" BS was a stalinist propaganda bit created to vilify the US based on a manifest destiny policy that had been abandoned by the time referring to americans as imperialist came into fashion.
You can claim i am this, or I am that, but you trying to put words and concepts in my mouth doesn't change who I am, what I believe or the fact that you foaming at the mouth and raging at me rather than engaging in debate sets the value of your commentary in my eyes to zero.
Because you believe it and you cry it does not make it fact or truth, any more than me doing the same dies so.
So feel free to drop the one-sided presentation, unless you are willing to outright say that ecause those people were french means they deserve death or that the acts we are discussing weren't at all reprehensible and take that opposition track openly, feel free not to imply that this murder spree was somehow justified.
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Mortedeamor wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:Ever heard of the christian Inquisition in the middle ages ? These christian were killing and torturing every people they judged infidel. Where does the bible say that killing and torturing is part of the religion??? And still they did!
It's EXACTLY the same thing here. In order to get more power, leaders of IS used the muslim religion to build an Inquisition-like order. Punishing those who don't think the same as them.
Were all the christian inquistor? No. Are all the muslims terrorists? Of course not. and when was the last inquisition ohb right hundreds of years ago and when was the last time muslims slaughtered in the name of their religion oh right they do that every day if Christians were going around slaughtering innocents and committing genocide they would be just as hated look at what they did to the poor yazidis...practically committed genocide How couldn't you understand my point ? oh i got your point my point is that even the bloody Christians have moved beyond this kind of barbarism meanwhile muslims havnt trust me i know of the atrocities committed in the name of god by Christians i know first hand what a zealot can do. i have scars to show for it ..but in mass they truly have moved past this sure there are zealots here and there but not like it used to be...nothing like it used to be..
Actually Muslims were less cruel during the medieval age than in contemporary times.
The Jews were originally the most violent in antiquity, then the Christians during the medieval age and now the Muslims are finally having their radical chapter. It actually only sprang up recently during the Soviet War of Afghanistan. Ironically enough Osama Bin Laden was our ally at the time. The U.S invested a lot of money, intelligence and training into the Mujahideen.
So it's not really ancient practices that are failing to leave, but actually new ideologies emerging. Early Muslims didn't actually force people to convert, and actually preferred to tax people of other religions in order to fund their territorial expansion. The persecution of non Muslims is relatively new.
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Goonfeet
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Mortedeamor wrote:
oh i got your point my point is that even the bloody Christians have moved beyond this kind of barbarism meanwhile muslims havnt
trust me i know of the atrocities committed in the name of god by Christians i know first hand what a zealot can do. i have scars to show for it ..but in mass they truly have moved past this sure there are zealots here and there but not like it used to be...nothing like it used to be..
Oh don't be too quick on that. The mainstream may be out of the business but every group has extremist morons in the mix.
And let's be bluntly real, very clear here.
Most of the crusades were, from start to finish, concocted and executed to give landless noble sons the opportunity to sieze and conquer land. The ignorant peasants making up the foot soldiery were the ones duped into buying into that "holy war" BS.
The exception being the children's crusade, which was a tragedy of delusion and outright fanatic idiocy.
But the crusades had very little to do with God and everything to do with co nquest. Same as ISIS, same as any other murderous extremist group, God is how you get the ignorant plebes in line. It was always about control.
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Mortedeamor
The Black Masquerade
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:Ever heard of the christian Inquisition in the middle ages ? These christian were killing and torturing every people they judged infidel. Where does the bible say that killing and torturing is part of the religion??? And still they did!
It's EXACTLY the same thing here. In order to get more power, leaders of IS used the muslim religion to build an Inquisition-like order. Punishing those who don't think the same as them.
Were all the christian inquistor? No. Are all the muslims terrorists? Of course not. and when was the last inquisition ohb right hundreds of years ago and when was the last time muslims slaughtered in the name of their religion oh right they do that every day if Christians were going around slaughtering innocents and committing genocide they would be just as hated look at what they did to the poor yazidis...practically committed genocide How couldn't you understand my point ? oh i got your point my point is that even the bloody Christians have moved beyond this kind of barbarism meanwhile muslims havnt trust me i know of the atrocities committed in the name of god by Christians i know first hand what a zealot can do. i have scars to show for it ..but in mass they truly have moved past this sure there are zealots here and there but not like it used to be...nothing like it used to be.. Actually Muslims were less cruel during the medieval age than in contemporary times. The Jews were originally the most violent in antiquity, then the Christians during the medieval age and now the Muslims are finally having their radical chapter. It actually only sprang up recently during the Soviet War of Afghanistan. Ironically enough Osama Bin Laden was our ally at the time. The U.S invested a lot of money, intelligence and training into the Mujahideen. So it's not really ancient practices that are failing to leave, but actually new ideologies emerging. Early Muslims didn't actually force people to convert, and actually preferred to tax people of other religions in order to fund their territorial expansion. The persecution of non Muslims is relatively new.
i know at once they were the pinnacle of civilization what was it 1000ad was the muslim golden age ?
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:
oh i got your point my point is that even the bloody Christians have moved beyond this kind of barbarism meanwhile muslims havnt
trust me i know of the atrocities committed in the name of god by Christians i know first hand what a zealot can do. i have scars to show for it ..but in mass they truly have moved past this sure there are zealots here and there but not like it used to be...nothing like it used to be..
Oh don't be too quick on that. The mainstream may be out of the business but every group has extremist morons in the mix. And let's be bluntly real, very clear here. Most of the crusades were, from start to finish, concocted and executed to give landless noble sons the opportunity to sieze and conquer land. The ignorant peasants making up the foot soldiery were the ones duped into buying into that "holy war" BS. The exception being the children's crusade, which was a tragedy of delusion and outright fanatic idiocy. But the crusades had very little to do with God and everything to do with co nquest. Same as ISIS, same as any other murderous extremist group, God is how you get the ignorant plebes in line. It was always about control.
trust me i know there are christian extremists i was raised by one but ive only ever met a small collection of people like him...never in mass...like i see with the muslims
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Radiant Pancake3 wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:Radiant Pancake3 wrote:Just because of this post I knew about the terrorist attacks... I go to school and almost none of the students know this happened... This generation disappoints me. I thought you were older, what grade or is it post secondary? 10th. I have all AP classes excluding French and ROTC. Glad to see I give off an Adult vibe.
Applied? An Ontarian Canuck too?
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Radiant Pancake3
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PLAYSTTION wrote:Radiant Pancake3 wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:Radiant Pancake3 wrote:Just because of this post I knew about the terrorist attacks... I go to school and almost none of the students know this happened... This generation disappoints me. I thought you were older, what grade or is it post secondary? 10th. I have all AP classes excluding French and ROTC. Glad to see I give off an Adult vibe. Applied? An Ontarian Canuck too?
I'm american.
Also, AP is:
Advanced Placement (AP) is a program in the United States and Canada, created by the College Board, which offers college-level curricula and examinations to high school students. American colleges and universities often grant placement and course credit to students who obtain high scores on the examinations.
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Radiant Pancake3 wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:Radiant Pancake3 wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:Radiant Pancake3 wrote:Just because of this post I knew about the terrorist attacks... I go to school and almost none of the students know this happened... This generation disappoints me. I thought you were older, what grade or is it post secondary? 10th. I have all AP classes excluding French and ROTC. Glad to see I give off an Adult vibe. Applied? An Ontarian Canuck too? I'm american. Also, AP is: Advanced Placement (AP) is a program in the United States and Canada, created by the College Board, which offers college-level curricula and examinations to high school students. American colleges and universities often grant placement and course credit to students who obtain high scores on the examinations.
K.
Here (Ontario) we have 2 levels, Academic and Applied, in grade 9-10. There are also open courses and more for really stupid people. Academic leads to University level courses in grade 11-12 and applied leads to college level courses. (by college and university level I mean it leads to college and university). There is also mixed, which is both, and workplace, which gives the basics so people can go straight to work after finishing school.
I'm averaging 90% or higher right now in Academic courses.
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PLAYSTTION wrote:
K.
Here (Ontario) we have 2 levels, Academic and Applied, in grade 9-10. There are also open courses and more for really stupid people. Academic leads to University level courses in grade 11-12 and applied leads to college level courses. (by college and university level I mean it leads to college and university). There is also mixed, which is both, and workplace, which gives the basics so people can go straight to work after finishing school.
I'm averaging 90% or higher right now in Academic courses.
4.0 GPA FTW.
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Mortedeamor
The Black Masquerade
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Radiant Pancake3 wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:Radiant Pancake3 wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:Radiant Pancake3 wrote:Just because of this post I knew about the terrorist attacks... I go to school and almost none of the students know this happened... This generation disappoints me. I thought you were older, what grade or is it post secondary? 10th. I have all AP classes excluding French and ROTC. Glad to see I give off an Adult vibe. Applied? An Ontarian Canuck too? I'm american. Also, AP is: Advanced Placement (AP) is a program in the United States and Canada, created by the College Board, which offers college-level curricula and examinations to high school students. American colleges and universities often grant placement and course credit to students who obtain high scores on the examinations.
oo how many credits you graduating with i only got 5 out of high school :/
i wasted 4 years in Latin just so i could read an older version of the bible so i could tell my mum to stfu when she went on rambles
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PLAYSTTION wrote:Radiant Pancake3 wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:
Applied? An Ontarian Canuck too?
I'm american. Also, AP is: Advanced Placement (AP) is a program in the United States and Canada, created by the College Board, which offers college-level curricula and examinations to high school students. American colleges and universities often grant placement and course credit to students who obtain high scores on the examinations. K. Here (Ontario) we have 2 levels, Academic and Applied, in grade 9-10. There are also open courses and more for really stupid people. Academic leads to University level courses in grade 11-12 and applied leads to college level courses. (by college and university level I mean it leads to college and university). There is also mixed, which is both, and workplace, which gives the basics so people can go straight to work after finishing school. I'm averaging 90% or higher right now in Academic courses.
AP is in Ontario too!
St. Edmund Campion in Brampton offers AP courses.
TBH, Damned dust is making do **** poor in school... Lol i come home and I'll be like "i got time"
Then a 1hr expenditure becomes a full evening kinda thing...
Hell I'm lucky to have a low 70 average atm because i don't study or do homework... My girlfriend is tryna break me out of dust and put me back to my grade 11 years (which I REALLY need). If I don't do the homework I get closelined by physics and advanced functions.. If I don't study computer science gets me, too. Seeing all this motivates me to do better in school... Lol this week I'm trying to be super productive. Thanks PLAY n Radiant.
But dust helped me mature as a person though.. One thing I'm thankful for.
Sorry sorry xD
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:
oh i got your point my point is that even the bloody Christians have moved beyond this kind of barbarism meanwhile muslims havnt
trust me i know of the atrocities committed in the name of god by Christians i know first hand what a zealot can do. i have scars to show for it ..but in mass they truly have moved past this sure there are zealots here and there but not like it used to be...nothing like it used to be..
Oh don't be too quick on that. The mainstream may be out of the business but every group has extremist morons in the mix. And let's be bluntly real, very clear here. Most of the crusades were, from start to finish, concocted and executed to give landless noble sons the opportunity to sieze and conquer land. The ignorant peasants making up the foot soldiery were the ones duped into buying into that "holy war" BS. The exception being the children's crusade, which was a tragedy of delusion and outright fanatic idiocy. But the crusades had very little to do with God and everything to do with co nquest. Same as ISIS, same as any other murderous extremist group, God is how you get the ignorant plebes in line. It was always about control.
Those crusades were a Catholic thing.
Just like the Albingensian Crusades going after Cathars in southern France.
"But, Viceroy there are faithful Catholic's among them". The Vatican Viceroy says "Kill them all, God will recognize his own".
Just leave the Baptists, Pentecostals, Mormons, Methodists, Protestants, Jehovahs, and any other Christian sects that are NOT Catholic out of that blanket statement. Thanks. o7
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Sequal's Back wrote:General Mosquito wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:
At least with china towns i dont have to worry about getting bombed if i go to see a concert.
Yonger and younger these terrorists become, they are already the next generation in line and with the world and technology you can spread propaganda even quicker, it wont die in time while technology is so simple and easy to use, it is not the time of the pigeon and mail.
Progress has never been faster, jihadis can jihad faster and recruit quicker than ever before and it will get worse before it gets better that is if it does get better.
Such racism and ignorance. Much wow. Your worse talking politics than pretending your a good tanker. ^^^ So much racism and bullsh.t is terrifying. It's because of thoughts like yours that IS does terrorist attacks. So that you start fearing muslims and reject them thinking they are all terrorists. You need to be educated, to read more, so you can maybe be less ignorant.
Muslim is not a race, it is used to describe people who follow Islam and that can be anyone of any colour or race. Go back to school yourself.
The west has been more than welcoming to muslims in general, building mosques and non discriminatory laws but go to a muslim country as a christian say and you will be looked down upon, there is no christian churches for you to go and pray in saudia arabia for example who are funding IS.
The ME are pretty unwelcoming to outsiders where as the west welcomes you with open arms no matter who you are hence how a terrorist got in under the refugee disguise within a month from getting off the boat.
Ignorance is what the EU is doing now, no immigration checks, no background checks, nothing and the french preople paid the price in blood.
Instead of telling us to be more toloerant how about you book a one way trip to any ME country and preach over there?
CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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IVIaster LUKE wrote:
Just leave the Baptists, Pentecostals, Mormons, Methodists, Protestants, Jehovahs, and any other Christian sects that are NOT Catholic out of that blanket statement. Thanks. o7
Crusades pre-date those denominations, further, I am bout as interested in accepting responsibility for the actions of men who died before I was born as I am interested in hitting myself with a ball peen hammer in the nads.
Never mind the crusades which happened centuries ago ubder the word of people so long dead their names are preserved only in academia.
People who cite examples of long-dead idiocy as justification for current acts are pretty much idiots. The current generation are idiots if they do not learn and prevent, instead following in lockstep with those who came before.
I did not fight in the crusades. I did not persecute the native americans. I did not participate in slavery. I take and accept no responsibility for that sh*t.
I accept responsibility to do what i can to prevent that stupid, unnecessary crap from happening again. Because history does not need to be repeated. Because I choose to aim for better than the history. Can't change the past, but you can work on the future.
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game
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Latest news : An anti terrorist raid attack was lead this morning at 4:30 am (french time) in residential building in the north of Paris. Apparently the head of the terrorist attack is inside that building. He's got weapons and explosives.
Monde de fous...
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General Mosquito
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.11.18 14:33:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:General Mosquito wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:
At least with china towns i dont have to worry about getting bombed if i go to see a concert.
Yonger and younger these terrorists become, they are already the next generation in line and with the world and technology you can spread propaganda even quicker, it wont die in time while technology is so simple and easy to use, it is not the time of the pigeon and mail.
Progress has never been faster, jihadis can jihad faster and recruit quicker than ever before and it will get worse before it gets better that is if it does get better.
Such racism and ignorance. Much wow. Your worse talking politics than pretending your a good tanker. ^^^ So much racism and bullsh.t is terrifying. It's because of thoughts like yours that IS does terrorist attacks. So that you start fearing muslims and reject them thinking they are all terrorists. You need to be educated, to read more, so you can maybe be less ignorant. Muslim is not a race, it is used to describe people who follow Islam and that can be anyone of any colour or race. Go back to school yourself. The west has been more than welcoming to muslims in general, building mosques and non discriminatory laws but go to a muslim country as a christian say and you will be looked down upon, there is no christian churches for you to go and pray in saudia arabia for example who are funding IS. The ME are pretty unwelcoming to outsiders where as the west welcomes you with open arms no matter who you are hence how a terrorist got in under the refugee disguise within a month from getting off the boat. Ignorance is what the EU is doing now, no immigration checks, no background checks, nothing and the french preople paid the price in blood. Instead of telling us to be more toloerant how about you book a one way trip to any ME country and preach over there?
So because the West allied with a theocracy that is barbaric the rest of Islam is radical as well?
Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Palestine and Oman all have churches. I was in them.
Maybe you are the one who needs to take a trip to the Middle East so you can actually see. Although, for a bigot, I can understand your reluctance.
The Attorney General - Mr. Hybrid Vayu
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General Mosquito
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.11.18 14:36:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:Ever heard of the christian Inquisition in the middle ages ? These christian were killing and torturing every people they judged infidel. Where does the bible say that killing and torturing is part of the religion??? And still they did!
It's EXACTLY the same thing here. In order to get more power, leaders of IS used the muslim religion to build an Inquisition-like order. Punishing those who don't think the same as them.
Were all the christian inquistor? No. Are all the muslims terrorists? Of course not. and when was the last inquisition ohb right hundreds of years ago and when was the last time muslims slaughtered in the name of their religion oh right they do that every day if Christians were going around slaughtering innocents and committing genocide they would be just as hated look at what they did to the poor yazidis...practically committed genocide
Bush II called the Iraq war a crusade.
As a devout Christian, should we not take him at his word?
Considering that holy war brought massive human rights violations, along with the ethnic cleansing of Baghdad, how should Muslims view that war? Do you think they were happy about it?
The Attorney General - Mr. Hybrid Vayu
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General Mosquito
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.11.18 14:39:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:Ever heard of the christian Inquisition in the middle ages ? These christian were killing and torturing every people they judged infidel. Where does the bible say that killing and torturing is part of the religion??? And still they did!
It's EXACTLY the same thing here. In order to get more power, leaders of IS used the muslim religion to build an Inquisition-like order. Punishing those who don't think the same as them.
Were all the christian inquistor? No. Are all the muslims terrorists? Of course not. and when was the last inquisition ohb right hundreds of years ago and when was the last time muslims slaughtered in the name of their religion oh right they do that every day if Christians were going around slaughtering innocents and committing genocide they would be just as hated look at what they did to the poor yazidis...practically committed genocide How couldn't you understand my point ? oh i got your point my point is that even the bloody Christians have moved beyond this kind of barbarism meanwhile muslims havnt trust me i know of the atrocities committed in the name of god by Christians i know first hand what a zealot can do. i have scars to show for it ..but in mass they truly have moved past this sure there are zealots here and there but not like it used to be...nothing like it used to be..
Less than 10 years ago the West was torturing people, and blowing up wedding parties.
To say Christians have moved past barbarism is completely false.
The Attorney General - Mr. Hybrid Vayu
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General Mosquito
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.11.18 14:58:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:]
And you "imperialist" BS was a stalinist propaganda bit created to vilify the US based on a manifest destiny policy that had been abandoned by the time referring to americans as imperialist came into fashion.
So feel free to drop the one-sided presentation, unless you are willing to outright say that ecause those people were french means they deserve death or that the acts we are discussing weren't at all reprehensible and take that opposition track openly, feel free not to imply that this murder spree was somehow justified.
Since the definition of imperialism is extending a countries power or influence by diplomacy or force, America qualifies. It is not propaganda to point out that the Iraq war was a war of aggression, waged in spite of international law, and as such was a war crime. You can disagree as much as you like, but that is a fact. I won't bore you with a massive list of imperial acts, but suffice to say that the trail of bodies and deposed leaders the U.S. has left around the world carries the stench of empire far and wide.
Finally, at no point did I say the attacks were justified. In fact I said the opposite. However, the largest argument I have been fighting against is the idea that Muslims are somehow inherently violent. That narrow worldview, ignorant of the things we have done to radicalize them is what causes things like what we have seen since the attacks.
We had an arson at a mosque, Muslim women getting attacked in broad daylight dropping picking their kids up from school, and some nutbar promising to kill one Muslim a week.
Now, of course these people are edge cases, and not indicative of our culture, but systemic ignorance makes it all too easy to convince people that the Other is the problem, we are the good guys and the hate us just because, which leads to innocent people getting hurt.
There is a distinction between saying something was justified and saying why it happened. Without even trying to discern the why we will be bound to continue forward.
The Attorney General - Mr. Hybrid Vayu
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
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Posted - 2015.11.18 18:42:00 -
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General Mosquito wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:General Mosquito wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:
At least with china towns i dont have to worry about getting bombed if i go to see a concert.
Yonger and younger these terrorists become, they are already the next generation in line and with the world and technology you can spread propaganda even quicker, it wont die in time while technology is so simple and easy to use, it is not the time of the pigeon and mail.
Progress has never been faster, jihadis can jihad faster and recruit quicker than ever before and it will get worse before it gets better that is if it does get better.
Such racism and ignorance. Much wow. Your worse talking politics than pretending your a good tanker. ^^^ So much racism and bullsh.t is terrifying. It's because of thoughts like yours that IS does terrorist attacks. So that you start fearing muslims and reject them thinking they are all terrorists. You need to be educated, to read more, so you can maybe be less ignorant. Muslim is not a race, it is used to describe people who follow Islam and that can be anyone of any colour or race. Go back to school yourself. The west has been more than welcoming to muslims in general, building mosques and non discriminatory laws but go to a muslim country as a christian say and you will be looked down upon, there is no christian churches for you to go and pray in saudia arabia for example who are funding IS. The ME are pretty unwelcoming to outsiders where as the west welcomes you with open arms no matter who you are hence how a terrorist got in under the refugee disguise within a month from getting off the boat. Ignorance is what the EU is doing now, no immigration checks, no background checks, nothing and the french preople paid the price in blood. Instead of telling us to be more toloerant how about you book a one way trip to any ME country and preach over there? So because the West allied with a theocracy that is barbaric the rest of Islam is radical as well? Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Palestine and Oman all have churches. I was in them. Maybe you are the one who needs to take a trip to the Middle East so you can actually see. Although, for a bigot, I can understand your reluctance.
They still stone people to death and cut of there hands so you tell me?
I mentioned saudi arabia, learn to read and go be a christian over there.
Instead of telling us to be more toloerant how about you book a one way trip to any ME country and preach over there?
CCP Rattati - "One giant vehicle nerf with more power to AV", you have got to be kidding...''
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