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Operative 1174 Uuali
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Posted - 2015.11.14 05:10:00 -
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Talk about prisoners of your own device.
http://www.meguiar.addr.com/end_times/muslim_takeover_of_europe.htm
You can either be blind and politically correct or get real and worry.
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Operative 1174 Uuali
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Posted - 2015.11.15 00:09:00 -
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YUUKI TERUMI wrote:Religion is the most useless thing in the universe.
Religion is dependent upon the basis of the belief. Not all religions are alike. Jesus never said to conquer people with violence. He didn't found a religion either, but the religion part is simply people following his teachings. People that use Christianity to harm are not justified by the basis of the belief, unlike Islam.
There are a lot of good people that believe in God otherwise and are better for it. I am surrounded by people like that. People are fallible however, so you can't judge a belief based on the people. When the religion is more than a religion however, and directly states that its believers should convert by force there should be a concern.
I submit this here again. Well stated.
http://www.meguiar.addr.com/end_times/muslim_takeover_of_europe.htm
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Posted - 2015.11.15 00:21:00 -
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benandjerrys wrote:Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church and State.
-Thomas Jefferson
Separation of church and state was the foundation of the United States of America. Mind you, many colonies were founded on the preface of religion. America is 2 different continents.
Im done with this bickering, innocent people died. You can flame the countries that react with aggression when their innocents are murdered but at least when they respond they attempt to in focused attempt to prevent collateral, while that collateral is their enemies primary prey.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.
No, separation of church and state does not exist in e Constitution. That is a personal quote by Jefferson. The Bill of Rights states no law shall be made establishing a state religion. Also, note it says the free exercise thereof. That includes representatives of the U.S. government. Note I said representatives. The U.S. government is the people.
There are many religious people in the U.S. and most are Christian. If Christians elect representatives who also believe or are willing to express that religion then they are so allowed. The people who are restricting rights are the atheists who want to enforce the myth of separation of church and state. To them it means to shut Christians up pure and simple.
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Operative 1174 Uuali
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Posted - 2015.11.15 00:25:00 -
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General Mosquito wrote:Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:YUUKI TERUMI wrote:Religion is the most useless thing in the universe. Religion is dependent upon the basis of the belief. Not all religions are alike. Jesus never said to conquer people with violence. He didn't found a religion either, but the religion part is simply people following his teachings. People that use Christianity to harm are not justified by the basis of the belief, unlike Islam. There are a lot of good people that believe in God otherwise and are better for it. I am surrounded by people like that. People are fallible however, so you can't judge a belief based on the people. When the religion is more than a religion however, and directly states that its believers should convert by force there should be a concern. I submit this here again. Well stated. http://www.meguiar.addr.com/end_times/muslim_takeover_of_europe.htm Blah blah, Islam is a religion of violence. http://www.juancole.com/2015/11/ten-ways-islamic-forbids-terrorism.htmlExcept it isn't. Christians use Deuteronomy amongst other things to justify a whole host of file acts. Don't try and pretend that Islam and Christianity are too sides of the same coin.
Please, educate yourself on Islam. The history and nature of the Quran. Stop ignorantly dismissing the issue with a generic catch-all arguement. If you don't want to believe then don't, but don't try and argue a over a subject that you reject and are more than happy to be dismissive about. It leads nowhere.
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Posted - 2015.11.15 00:36:00 -
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General Mosquito wrote:Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:General Mosquito wrote:Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:YUUKI TERUMI wrote:Religion is the most useless thing in the universe. Religion is dependent upon the basis of the belief. Not all religions are alike. Jesus never said to conquer people with violence. He didn't found a religion either, but the religion part is simply people following his teachings. People that use Christianity to harm are not justified by the basis of the belief, unlike Islam. There are a lot of good people that believe in God otherwise and are better for it. I am surrounded by people like that. People are fallible however, so you can't judge a belief based on the people. When the religion is more than a religion however, and directly states that its believers should convert by force there should be a concern. I submit this here again. Well stated. http://www.meguiar.addr.com/end_times/muslim_takeover_of_europe.htm Blah blah, Islam is a religion of violence. http://www.juancole.com/2015/11/ten-ways-islamic-forbids-terrorism.htmlExcept it isn't. Christians use Deuteronomy amongst other things to justify a whole host of file acts. Don't try and pretend that Islam and Christianity are too sides of the same coin. Please, educate yourself on Islam. The history and nature of the Quran. Stop ignorantly dismissing the issue with a generic catch-all arguement. If you don't want to believe then don't, but don't try and argue a over a subject that you reject and are more than happy to be dismissive about. It leads nowhere. What I linked quotes the Qu'ran. Maybe you should have read it jackass. I'm dismissive of people like Islam is worse, when Christianity has the much higher running body count, and Western powers have spent the last 50 years pushing Islam to the extreme. Wahhabism didn't get spread around on a whim, it was a policy decision by the West as part of their deal with the Saudis. The West now reaps what it so happily sowed.
Read the complete post. I was in the process of editing it. Also, I see I'm dealing with a name calling fool. So, I will leave the arguement there. Again though, you can't pass judgment on Christianity based on the actions of ignorant people that use it for nefarious purposes. Jesus even made a point about at sort of thing both about himself and the Pharisees, who enforced Jewish law legalistically.
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Posted - 2015.11.15 00:44:00 -
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General Mosquito wrote:Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:benandjerrys wrote:Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church and State.
-Thomas Jefferson
Separation of church and state was the foundation of the United States of America. Mind you, many colonies were founded on the preface of religion. America is 2 different continents.
Im done with this bickering, innocent people died. You can flame the countries that react with aggression when their innocents are murdered but at least when they respond they attempt to in focused attempt to prevent collateral, while that collateral is their enemies primary prey. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. No, separation of church and state does not exist in e Constitution. That is a personal quote by Jefferson. The Bill of Rights states no law shall be made establishing a state religion. Also, note it says the free exercise thereof. That includes representatives of the U.S. government. Note I said representatives. The U.S. government is the people. There are many religious people in the U.S. and most are Christian. If Christians elect representatives who also believe or are willing to express that religion then they are so allowed. The people who are restricting rights are the atheists who want to enforce the myth of separation of church and state. To them it means to shut Christians up pure and simple. Article 6 paragraph 3 of the U.S. Constitution would disagree with you.
Lol, that still doesn't apply. No religious test has been ever been given. If enough people vote for a muslim then he shall be sworn in on the Quran or if we elect a person willing to admit atheism then he can swear an oath on thin air. Mind you though, he will swear an oath to properly represent his office.
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Posted - 2015.11.15 00:46:00 -
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General Mosquito wrote:Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:General Mosquito wrote:
What I linked quotes the Qu'ran. Maybe you should have read it jackass.
I'm dismissive of people like Islam is worse, when Christianity has the much higher running body count, and Western powers have spent the last 50 years pushing Islam to the extreme.
Wahhabism didn't get spread around on a whim, it was a policy decision by the West as part of their deal with the Saudis.
The West now reaps what it so happily sowed.
Read the complete post. I was in the process of editing it. Also, I see I'm dealing with a name calling fool. So, I will leave the arguement there. Again though, you can't pass judgment on Christianity based on the actions of ignorant people that use it for nefarious purposes. Jesus even made a point about at sort of thing both about himself and the Pharisees, who enforced Jewish law legalistically. So what, you exempt bible thumping terrorists, but not Islamic ones? The amount of hypocrisy and your attempted derision are laughable. I can and will condemn Christian extremists just as roundly as I condemn Islamic ones. I don't pretend that one is any less violent than the other, because they are not.
You haven't read a word I wrote did you? That is not what I have stated. AT ALL. lol. Also, confrontation gets you nowhere.
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Posted - 2015.11.15 00:53:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:Shamarskii Simon wrote:Wait wait wait.
I don't want to say ISIS is really to blame... (this came to mind while reading this topic)
I'm just looking at another possibility.. Help me out here. Give me a lil slack.
One of them were Syrian right?
How many refugees are coming out of Syria?
Now... How many syrians are not able to enter a country/ taking "long" to get refugee status? Especially in the EU... which is next door? See what I'm getting at?
A small group of people might have taken matters in there own hands... Knowing ISIS likes to take responsibility for things they haven't done (E.G: ISIS saying they are responsible for the Russian Plane being "shot down" when it could not be destroyed by external means.) it might be everyone focusing on the wrong thing. It might be people being outraged by how they've been treated by foreign governments, so they bring their refugee reasons to these countries --Literally.
If they managed to reach any "main" country in the EU, they'd take the opportunity (The person left Greece and went into one of these "main" states of the EU: France.).
As someone else said, it might be Germany next... Not what the newspapers here been saying (Israel because they are surrounded by enemies, and they are closest to the issue)
Sadly, i don't have enough information to prove all of that but... I've been trying to look at this from a different vista... Just what if we're wrong? (I'm a process of elimination kinda guy lol)
Like if ISIS truly wanted to do something bad for everyone... They'd go for an oil refinery and hold that hostage... Now that would screw up the world for a few days/weeks... Probably months. I can't even try to predict what would happen (i basically just turned 17, i barely have 1st hand life experience)... Maybe a serious decline in the economy... Forced recession?
...Thankfully they don't take that into consideration. Hmm.
If there will be anither atacks it will be propably again in France or possibly in England (they have big amount of orthodox supporters too). Germany hmm i do not think so, they have great amount of trurkish people, but they are not too orthodox about religion.
Lol, I remember my German teacher talking about Turkish immigrants. She talked about how they'd just start a knife fight right there in the street when they had a disagreement. Guess, we won't have to worry about bombings or terror attacks from them. They do things the old fashion wayGǪ by dueling.
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