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Breakin Stuff
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Posted - 2015.11.15 00:58:00 -
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F*ck religious comparisons.
This is murder, an act forbidden by law.
Further, it is mass murder carried out in military fashion with intent to attack the fundamental rights and privileges enjoyed by the french.
In other times this would be declared an act of war.
It may have been done ostensibly for religious reasons. It may be the west is "reaping what it has sown."
These insurgent bastards are murderers. They are undeclared, un-uniformed enemy combatants on french soil. Screw the religious connotations, justifications and the bs.
An attack is an attack is an attack. Now the question is, will the french be the first to bring this sh*t to a screeching halt and actually take off the kid gloves?
All smartass jokes about the french at war aside, the french aren't lightweights when they don't have a sudden bumrush of ten tank divisions bombing across the country from a (theoretically) non-hostile neighbor.
If the french government acts, this isn't going to be a debate about christians versus muslims. It's going to be a sovereign nation retaliating against a rogue would-be nation fostering insurgency and murder within her borders.
It may be religious to the terrorists, but to the regular soldiers, it's just another fu**ing meatgrinder. It won't matter who the bad guys pray to at the end of the day.
Question remains: who says "screw it, no more playing nice" first?
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Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2015.11.15 00:59:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:The most successful tactics the insurgent groups utilize is aggressive local recruitment.
I'm willing to bet they plan this **** for years until they can go over it by the numbers in their sleep. I was really out of this problem, but after this attack my first thing in mind was basicaly "nuke them". Honestly i know there is still people in place where are they, but if you ask me i will be for carpet attacks, supported by surgical strikes 24/7. This is enough. Im for people, for equality etc. But enought is enough.
those were my first thoughts to after attacking france i am for nuclear retaliation
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Posted - 2015.11.15 01:00:00 -
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General Mosquito wrote:Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:YUUKI TERUMI wrote:Religion is the most useless thing in the universe. Religion is dependent upon the basis of the belief. Not all religions are alike. Jesus never said to conquer people with violence. He didn't found a religion either, but the religion part is simply people following his teachings. People that use Christianity to harm are not justified by the basis of the belief, unlike Islam. There are a lot of good people that believe in God otherwise and are better for it. I am surrounded by people like that. People are fallible however, so you can't judge a belief based on the people. When the religion is more than a religion however, and directly states that its believers should convert by force there should be a concern. I submit this here again. Well stated. http://www.meguiar.addr.com/end_times/muslim_takeover_of_europe.htm Blah blah, Islam is a religion of violence. http://www.juancole.com/2015/11/ten-ways-islamic-forbids-terrorism.htmlExcept it isn't. Christians use Deuteronomy amongst other things to justify a whole host of file acts. Don't try and pretend that Islam and Christianity are too sides of the same coin.
Agree with Mosquito
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Posted - 2015.11.15 01:03:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:It is not by religion, they do not care about religion.
It is about amount of orthodox groups in state already.
And biggest amount is in France and England.
Hmm? Care to explain for me?
I was thinking like "orthodox church," so I must be wrong lol.
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Posted - 2015.11.15 01:03:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:F*ck religious comparisons.
This is murder, an act forbidden by law.
Further, it is mass murder carried out in military fashion with intent to attack the fundamental rights and privileges enjoyed by the french.
In other times this would be declared an act of war.
It may have been done ostensibly for religious reasons. It may be the west is "reaping what it has sown."
These insurgent bastards are murderers. They are undeclared, un-uniformed enemy combatants on french soil. Screw the religious connotations, justifications and the bs.
An attack is an attack is an attack. Now the question is, will the french be the first to bring this sh*t to a screeching halt and actually take off the kid gloves?
All smartass jokes about the french at war aside, the french aren't lightweights when they don't have a sudden bumrush of ten tank divisions bombing across the country from a (theoretically) non-hostile neighbor.
If the french government acts, this isn't going to be a debate about christians versus muslims. It's going to be a sovereign nation retaliating against a rogue would-be nation fostering insurgency and murder within her borders.
It may be religious to the terrorists, but to the regular soldiers, it's just another fu**ing meatgrinder. It won't matter who the bad guys pray to at the end of the day.
Question remains: who says "screw it, no more playing nice" first?
i think we should all take the kids gloves off idc that this attack was on the french people an attack on France is an attack on america and all the allied countries should retaliate and we should all take the kids gloves off ESPECIALLY US AMERICANS
we should be using this slaughter as an excuse to make an example out of them using it as an excuse for all out warfare hit them so hard so fast that they NEVER ever again think that they can get away with this **** again....idc if civilians get caught in the cross fire guess what 150 french civilians were just murdered. and some of them i knew (which i just found out a few hours ago i lost people i love in this,....i want the middle east to bleed for this i want it to burn
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Posted - 2015.11.15 01:04:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:The most successful tactics the insurgent groups utilize is aggressive local recruitment.
I'm willing to bet they plan this **** for years until they can go over it by the numbers in their sleep. I was really out of this problem, but after this attack my first thing in mind was basicaly "nuke them". Honestly i know there is still people in place where are they, but if you ask me i will be for carpet attacks, supported by surgical strikes 24/7. This is enough. Im for people, for equality etc. But enought is enough. those were my first thoughts to after attacking france i am for nuclear retaliation
Because if you know and you see, you must act.
Just some interesting photos:
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Posted - 2015.11.15 01:08:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:General Mosquito wrote:Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:YUUKI TERUMI wrote:Religion is the most useless thing in the universe. Religion is dependent upon the basis of the belief. Not all religions are alike. Jesus never said to conquer people with violence. He didn't found a religion either, but the religion part is simply people following his teachings. People that use Christianity to harm are not justified by the basis of the belief, unlike Islam. There are a lot of good people that believe in God otherwise and are better for it. I am surrounded by people like that. People are fallible however, so you can't judge a belief based on the people. When the religion is more than a religion however, and directly states that its believers should convert by force there should be a concern. I submit this here again. Well stated. http://www.meguiar.addr.com/end_times/muslim_takeover_of_europe.htm Blah blah, Islam is a religion of violence. http://www.juancole.com/2015/11/ten-ways-islamic-forbids-terrorism.htmlExcept it isn't. Christians use Deuteronomy amongst other things to justify a whole host of file acts. Don't try and pretend that Islam and Christianity are too sides of the same coin. Please, educate yourself on Islam. The history and nature of the Quran. Stop ignorantly dismissing the issue with a generic catch-all arguement. If you don't want to believe then don't, but don't try and argue a over a subject that you reject and are more than happy to be dismissive about. It leads nowhere. Again, old testament taken from Jewish history and belief the interpretation by misguided people using Christianity as a basis for oppression is not justified by Jesus nor many Christians. Remember, Christians are supposed to only follow Jesus. There is a good reason for that. Case in point, your statement. Muslims, regardless of attitude about conquest and oppression are commanded by their belief to do so. It is simply a matter of them wanting to concern themselves with it. Remember, Islam is not just he Quran, but the Hadith and the will and history as example of the historical person of Mohammad. He was a killer and conquerer.
i have whip marks on my back scars that will be there forever it was a christian man who put them there...in the name of god...christian commit just as vile acts they just dont go around CURRENTLY committing mass murder religion can be used for extreme good it can also be used for extreme evil thus is the nature of religion ..it truly is not the religions fault though its the peoples..just because jesus was a peaceful man doesnt mean people dont commit vile acts in his name...it is just less common than muslims for reasons already stated..the muslim religion is just more dangerous than Christianity they are both dangerous they both have the power to be abused
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Posted - 2015.11.15 01:11:00 -
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General Mosquito wrote:Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:General Mosquito wrote:
What I linked quotes the Qu'ran. Maybe you should have read it jackass.
I'm dismissive of people like Islam is worse, when Christianity has the much higher running body count, and Western powers have spent the last 50 years pushing Islam to the extreme.
Wahhabism didn't get spread around on a whim, it was a policy decision by the West as part of their deal with the Saudis.
The West now reaps what it so happily sowed.
Read the complete post. I was in the process of editing it. Also, I see I'm dealing with a name calling fool. So, I will leave the arguement there. Again though, you can't pass judgment on Christianity based on the actions of ignorant people that use it for nefarious purposes. Jesus even made a point about at sort of thing both about himself and the Pharisees, who enforced Jewish law legalistically. So what, you exempt bible thumping terrorists, but not Islamic ones? The amount of hypocrisy and your attempted derision are laughable. I can and will condemn Christian extremists just as roundly as I condemn Islamic ones. I don't pretend that one is any less violent than the other, because they are not.
Extreme religion is the extreme following of a religion. Extreme Christianity is showing love to everybody and share the gospel. Extreme Islam in my opinion is be kind to insiders but press more forcibly on others. I'm not muslim so I don't know all the inside stuff.
I do know however that there is in muslim teaching, verses that clearly state to kill unbelievers and force them to submit and accept allah. As for your quotes clearly stating not to murder and stuff, I think that would be a more inside thing.
I saw a post one time saying that the muslims who say Islam is a religion of peace are the ones who only carry it as a title and don't really practice it, like a lot of christians on the west. Now, with my version of extreme religion this kind of makes sense, not all Christians are extremists and don't practice all of the bibles teachings, maybe they curse or don't really do anything, like a lot of Christians I know.. Therefore, not all muslims are extremists, not all muslims go around threatening to kill people if the don't convert, some pick out the good bits and some just carry the title, like every muslim I know. Some people from both religions are misguided and do things the religion doesn't promote. No one is perfect, hypocrisy is impossible to avoid in any organization.
I dont want to get into this forum argument so i won't reply to questions other than clarification.
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Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2015.11.15 01:12:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:The most successful tactics the insurgent groups utilize is aggressive local recruitment.
I'm willing to bet they plan this **** for years until they can go over it by the numbers in their sleep. I was really out of this problem, but after this attack my first thing in mind was basicaly "nuke them". Honestly i know there is still people in place where are they, but if you ask me i will be for carpet attacks, supported by surgical strikes 24/7. This is enough. Im for people, for equality etc. But enought is enough. those were my first thoughts to after attacking france i am for nuclear retaliation Because if you know and you see, you must act. Just some interesting photos: AfganistanIran
no its not that its because its personal now i lost family in France
honestly they could all be wearing crucifixes and it would be no different in my mind...i just had a loved one killed in the name of religion
ps if my assaults hurt a lil extra tonight its because im ******* PISSED
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Posted - 2015.11.15 01:12:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:F*ck religious comparisons.
This is murder, an act forbidden by law.
Further, it is mass murder carried out in military fashion with intent to attack the fundamental rights and privileges enjoyed by the french.
In other times this would be declared an act of war.
It may have been done ostensibly for religious reasons. It may be the west is "reaping what it has sown."
These insurgent bastards are murderers. They are undeclared, un-uniformed enemy combatants on french soil. Screw the religious connotations, justifications and the bs.
An attack is an attack is an attack. Now the question is, will the french be the first to bring this sh*t to a screeching halt and actually take off the kid gloves?
All smartass jokes about the french at war aside, the french aren't lightweights when they don't have a sudden bumrush of ten tank divisions bombing across the country from a (theoretically) non-hostile neighbor.
If the french government acts, this isn't going to be a debate about christians versus muslims. It's going to be a sovereign nation retaliating against a rogue would-be nation fostering insurgency and murder within her borders.
It may be religious to the terrorists, but to the regular soldiers, it's just another fu**ing meatgrinder. It won't matter who the bad guys pray to at the end of the day.
Question remains: who says "screw it, no more playing nice" first? i think we should all take the kids gloves off idc that this attack was on the french people an attack on France is an attack on america and all the allied countries should retaliate and we should all take the kids gloves off ESPECIALLY US AMERICANS we should be using this slaughter as an excuse to make an example out of them using it as an excuse for all out warfare hit them so hard so fast that they NEVER ever again think that they can get away with this **** again....idc if civilians get caught in the cross fire guess what 150 french civilians were just murdered. and some of them i knew (which i just found out a few hours ago i lost people i love in this,....i want the middle east to bleed for this i want it to burn
Yeah we saw how that went with Nixon in Vietnam... "We're going to bomb them to the stone age"
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Posted - 2015.11.15 01:14:00 -
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Forever ETC wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:F*ck religious comparisons.
This is murder, an act forbidden by law.
Further, it is mass murder carried out in military fashion with intent to attack the fundamental rights and privileges enjoyed by the french.
In other times this would be declared an act of war.
It may have been done ostensibly for religious reasons. It may be the west is "reaping what it has sown."
These insurgent bastards are murderers. They are undeclared, un-uniformed enemy combatants on french soil. Screw the religious connotations, justifications and the bs.
An attack is an attack is an attack. Now the question is, will the french be the first to bring this sh*t to a screeching halt and actually take off the kid gloves?
All smartass jokes about the french at war aside, the french aren't lightweights when they don't have a sudden bumrush of ten tank divisions bombing across the country from a (theoretically) non-hostile neighbor.
If the french government acts, this isn't going to be a debate about christians versus muslims. It's going to be a sovereign nation retaliating against a rogue would-be nation fostering insurgency and murder within her borders.
It may be religious to the terrorists, but to the regular soldiers, it's just another fu**ing meatgrinder. It won't matter who the bad guys pray to at the end of the day.
Question remains: who says "screw it, no more playing nice" first? i think we should all take the kids gloves off idc that this attack was on the french people an attack on France is an attack on america and all the allied countries should retaliate and we should all take the kids gloves off ESPECIALLY US AMERICANS we should be using this slaughter as an excuse to make an example out of them using it as an excuse for all out warfare hit them so hard so fast that they NEVER ever again think that they can get away with this **** again....idc if civilians get caught in the cross fire guess what 150 french civilians were just murdered. and some of them i knew (which i just found out a few hours ago i lost people i love in this,....i want the middle east to bleed for this i want it to burn Yeah we saw how that went with Nixon in Vietnam... "We're going to bomb them to the stone age"
yeah but this is 2015 and we actually can bomb them into the stone age without ever setting foot in the land
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Posted - 2015.11.15 01:19:00 -
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Forever ETC wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:F*ck religious comparisons.
This is murder, an act forbidden by law.
Further, it is mass murder carried out in military fashion with intent to attack the fundamental rights and privileges enjoyed by the french.
In other times this would be declared an act of war.
It may have been done ostensibly for religious reasons. It may be the west is "reaping what it has sown."
These insurgent bastards are murderers. They are undeclared, un-uniformed enemy combatants on french soil. Screw the religious connotations, justifications and the bs.
An attack is an attack is an attack. Now the question is, will the french be the first to bring this sh*t to a screeching halt and actually take off the kid gloves?
All smartass jokes about the french at war aside, the french aren't lightweights when they don't have a sudden bumrush of ten tank divisions bombing across the country from a (theoretically) non-hostile neighbor.
If the french government acts, this isn't going to be a debate about christians versus muslims. It's going to be a sovereign nation retaliating against a rogue would-be nation fostering insurgency and murder within her borders.
It may be religious to the terrorists, but to the regular soldiers, it's just another fu**ing meatgrinder. It won't matter who the bad guys pray to at the end of the day.
Question remains: who says "screw it, no more playing nice" first? i think we should all take the kids gloves off idc that this attack was on the french people an attack on France is an attack on america and all the allied countries should retaliate and we should all take the kids gloves off ESPECIALLY US AMERICANS we should be using this slaughter as an excuse to make an example out of them using it as an excuse for all out warfare hit them so hard so fast that they NEVER ever again think that they can get away with this **** again....idc if civilians get caught in the cross fire guess what 150 french civilians were just murdered. and some of them i knew (which i just found out a few hours ago i lost people i love in this,....i want the middle east to bleed for this i want it to burn Yeah we saw how that went with Nixon in Vietnam... "We're going to bomb them to the stone age"
That was in a jungle. The middle east is pretty much a field with cities. Easier to aim. Also this is 40ish years later. Better tech.
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Posted - 2015.11.15 01:20:00 -
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PLAYSTTION wrote:Forever ETC wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:F*ck religious comparisons.
This is murder, an act forbidden by law.
Further, it is mass murder carried out in military fashion with intent to attack the fundamental rights and privileges enjoyed by the french.
In other times this would be declared an act of war.
It may have been done ostensibly for religious reasons. It may be the west is "reaping what it has sown."
These insurgent bastards are murderers. They are undeclared, un-uniformed enemy combatants on french soil. Screw the religious connotations, justifications and the bs.
An attack is an attack is an attack. Now the question is, will the french be the first to bring this sh*t to a screeching halt and actually take off the kid gloves?
All smartass jokes about the french at war aside, the french aren't lightweights when they don't have a sudden bumrush of ten tank divisions bombing across the country from a (theoretically) non-hostile neighbor.
If the french government acts, this isn't going to be a debate about christians versus muslims. It's going to be a sovereign nation retaliating against a rogue would-be nation fostering insurgency and murder within her borders.
It may be religious to the terrorists, but to the regular soldiers, it's just another fu**ing meatgrinder. It won't matter who the bad guys pray to at the end of the day.
Question remains: who says "screw it, no more playing nice" first? i think we should all take the kids gloves off idc that this attack was on the french people an attack on France is an attack on america and all the allied countries should retaliate and we should all take the kids gloves off ESPECIALLY US AMERICANS we should be using this slaughter as an excuse to make an example out of them using it as an excuse for all out warfare hit them so hard so fast that they NEVER ever again think that they can get away with this **** again....idc if civilians get caught in the cross fire guess what 150 french civilians were just murdered. and some of them i knew (which i just found out a few hours ago i lost people i love in this,....i want the middle east to bleed for this i want it to burn Yeah we saw how that went with Nixon in Vietnam... "We're going to bomb them to the stone age" That was in a jungle. The middle east is pretty much a field with cities. Easier to aim. Also this is 40ish years later. Better tech.
exactly lets just reroute some of those icbms pointed at russia to the middle east ...while we are at it we should send some painters in to paint vive la france on those missiles before we send them in
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Posted - 2015.11.15 01:24:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:Forever ETC wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:F*ck religious comparisons.
This is murder, an act forbidden by law.
Further, it is mass murder carried out in military fashion with intent to attack the fundamental rights and privileges enjoyed by the french.
In other times this would be declared an act of war.
It may have been done ostensibly for religious reasons. It may be the west is "reaping what it has sown."
These insurgent bastards are murderers. They are undeclared, un-uniformed enemy combatants on french soil. Screw the religious connotations, justifications and the bs.
An attack is an attack is an attack. Now the question is, will the french be the first to bring this sh*t to a screeching halt and actually take off the kid gloves?
All smartass jokes about the french at war aside, the french aren't lightweights when they don't have a sudden bumrush of ten tank divisions bombing across the country from a (theoretically) non-hostile neighbor.
If the french government acts, this isn't going to be a debate about christians versus muslims. It's going to be a sovereign nation retaliating against a rogue would-be nation fostering insurgency and murder within her borders.
It may be religious to the terrorists, but to the regular soldiers, it's just another fu**ing meatgrinder. It won't matter who the bad guys pray to at the end of the day.
Question remains: who says "screw it, no more playing nice" first? i think we should all take the kids gloves off idc that this attack was on the french people an attack on France is an attack on america and all the allied countries should retaliate and we should all take the kids gloves off ESPECIALLY US AMERICANS we should be using this slaughter as an excuse to make an example out of them using it as an excuse for all out warfare hit them so hard so fast that they NEVER ever again think that they can get away with this **** again....idc if civilians get caught in the cross fire guess what 150 french civilians were just murdered. and some of them i knew (which i just found out a few hours ago i lost people i love in this,....i want the middle east to bleed for this i want it to burn Yeah we saw how that went with Nixon in Vietnam... "We're going to bomb them to the stone age" yeah but this is 2015 and we actually can bomb them into the stone age without ever setting foot in the land
We can but we won't... I don't see that happening anytime soon, especially with the backlash the U.S got for bombing that hospital of Doctors Without Borders. Imagine now purposely bombing all of ISIS/Extremist held ground in the Middle East... They may be bad but there are still humans in that occupied area who can't get out. If we start releasing mass amounts of nukes in that area we will have more blood in our hands than they ever had. Congratulations you eliminated a terrorist organization and killed millions, another one will rise again with even more hatred.
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Posted - 2015.11.15 01:25:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:Forever ETC wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:F*ck religious comparisons.
This is murder, an act forbidden by law.
Further, it is mass murder carried out in military fashion with intent to attack the fundamental rights and privileges enjoyed by the french.
In other times this would be declared an act of war.
It may have been done ostensibly for religious reasons. It may be the west is "reaping what it has sown."
These insurgent bastards are murderers. They are undeclared, un-uniformed enemy combatants on french soil. Screw the religious connotations, justifications and the bs.
An attack is an attack is an attack. Now the question is, will the french be the first to bring this sh*t to a screeching halt and actually take off the kid gloves?
All smartass jokes about the french at war aside, the french aren't lightweights when they don't have a sudden bumrush of ten tank divisions bombing across the country from a (theoretically) non-hostile neighbor.
If the french government acts, this isn't going to be a debate about christians versus muslims. It's going to be a sovereign nation retaliating against a rogue would-be nation fostering insurgency and murder within her borders.
It may be religious to the terrorists, but to the regular soldiers, it's just another fu**ing meatgrinder. It won't matter who the bad guys pray to at the end of the day.
Question remains: who says "screw it, no more playing nice" first? i think we should all take the kids gloves off idc that this attack was on the french people an attack on France is an attack on america and all the allied countries should retaliate and we should all take the kids gloves off ESPECIALLY US AMERICANS we should be using this slaughter as an excuse to make an example out of them using it as an excuse for all out warfare hit them so hard so fast that they NEVER ever again think that they can get away with this **** again....idc if civilians get caught in the cross fire guess what 150 french civilians were just murdered. and some of them i knew (which i just found out a few hours ago i lost people i love in this,....i want the middle east to bleed for this i want it to burn Yeah we saw how that went with Nixon in Vietnam... "We're going to bomb them to the stone age" That was in a jungle. The middle east is pretty much a field with cities. Easier to aim. Also this is 40ish years later. Better tech. exactly lets just reroute some of those icbms pointed at russia to the middle east ...while we are at it we should send some painters in to paint vive la france on those missiles before we send them in
lol get CIA to secretly get North Korea to nuke middle east to make friends with other countries.
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Posted - 2015.11.15 01:28:00 -
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Forever ETC wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Forever ETC wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:F*ck religious comparisons.
This is murder, an act forbidden by law.
Further, it is mass murder carried out in military fashion with intent to attack the fundamental rights and privileges enjoyed by the french.
In other times this would be declared an act of war.
It may have been done ostensibly for religious reasons. It may be the west is "reaping what it has sown."
These insurgent bastards are murderers. They are undeclared, un-uniformed enemy combatants on french soil. Screw the religious connotations, justifications and the bs.
An attack is an attack is an attack. Now the question is, will the french be the first to bring this sh*t to a screeching halt and actually take off the kid gloves?
All smartass jokes about the french at war aside, the french aren't lightweights when they don't have a sudden bumrush of ten tank divisions bombing across the country from a (theoretically) non-hostile neighbor.
If the french government acts, this isn't going to be a debate about christians versus muslims. It's going to be a sovereign nation retaliating against a rogue would-be nation fostering insurgency and murder within her borders.
It may be religious to the terrorists, but to the regular soldiers, it's just another fu**ing meatgrinder. It won't matter who the bad guys pray to at the end of the day.
Question remains: who says "screw it, no more playing nice" first? i think we should all take the kids gloves off idc that this attack was on the french people an attack on France is an attack on america and all the allied countries should retaliate and we should all take the kids gloves off ESPECIALLY US AMERICANS we should be using this slaughter as an excuse to make an example out of them using it as an excuse for all out warfare hit them so hard so fast that they NEVER ever again think that they can get away with this **** again....idc if civilians get caught in the cross fire guess what 150 french civilians were just murdered. and some of them i knew (which i just found out a few hours ago i lost people i love in this,....i want the middle east to bleed for this i want it to burn Yeah we saw how that went with Nixon in Vietnam... "We're going to bomb them to the stone age" yeah but this is 2015 and we actually can bomb them into the stone age without ever setting foot in the land We can but we won't... I don't see that happening anytime soon, especially with the backlash the U.S got for bombing that hospital of Doctors Without Borders. Imagine now purposely bombing all of ISIS/Extremist held ground in the Middle East... They may be bad but there are still humans in that occupied area who can't get out. If we start releasing mass amounts of nukes in that area we will have more blood in our hands than they ever had. Congratulations you eliminated a terrorist organization and killed millions, another one will rise again with even more hatred.
we got away with it with japan im sure we can find a way to get away with it with them
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Shamarskii Simon wrote:Wait wait wait.
I don't want to say ISIS is really to blame... (this came to mind while reading this topic)
I'm just looking at another possibility.. Help me out here. Give me a lil slack.
One of them were Syrian right?
How many refugees are coming out of Syria?
Now... How many syrians are not able to enter a country/ taking "long" to get refugee status? Especially in the EU... which is next door? See what I'm getting at?
A small group of people might have taken matters in there own hands... Knowing ISIS likes to take responsibility for things they haven't done (E.G: ISIS saying they are responsible for the Russian Plane being "shot down" when it could not be destroyed by external means.) it might be everyone focusing on the wrong thing. It might be people being outraged by how they've been treated by foreign governments, so they bring their refugee reasons to these countries --Literally.
If they managed to reach any "main" country in the EU, they'd take the opportunity (The person left Greece and went into one of these "main" states of the EU: France.).
As someone else said, it might be Germany next... Not what the newspapers here been saying (Israel because they are surrounded by enemies, and they are closest to the issue)
Sadly, i don't have enough information to prove all of that but... I've been trying to look at this from a different vista... Just what if we're wrong? (I'm a process of elimination kinda guy lol)
Like if ISIS truly wanted to do something bad for everyone... They'd go for an oil refinery and hold that hostage... Now that would screw up the world for a few days/weeks... Probably months. I can't even try to predict what would happen (i basically just turned 17, i barely have 1st hand life experience)... Maybe a serious decline in the economy... Forced recession?
...Thankfully they don't take that into consideration. Hmm.
How many come out of syria? depends how many are on the beaches waiting for a boat to take them across.
Also many did not get proccessed at all and were just let through various countries because with the amount of people it would take too long, also many just moved on and skipped registration anyways.
Oil is at an all time low atm, Iran had its sanctions lifted so is pumping away oil like no tommorow, add in the fact that the US is actually moving away from oil, the market is flooded with cheap oil and the only way another recession will happen is most likely on the banking sector but intrest rates are being kept low.
Would make no difference if ISIS took a refinery for a bit, sure they get paid but they already got supplied with weapons by the US and iraqis and most likely funded by the saudis.
There currency is terror
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Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2015.11.15 01:44:00 -
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Forever ETC wrote:
We can but we won't... I don't see that happening anytime soon, especially with the backlash the U.S got for bombing that hospital of Doctors Without Borders. Imagine now purposely bombing all of ISIS/Extremist held ground in the Middle East... They may be bad but there are still humans in that occupied area who can't get out. If we start releasing mass amounts of nukes in that area we will have more blood in our hands than they ever had. Congratulations you eliminated a terrorist organization and killed millions, another one will rise again with even more hatred.
Doctors without borders was a goddamn travesty.
However, I guarantee you that while the nerds immediately responsible for that show of cataclysmic stupid will probably burn, there will be no such concern should ISIS continue it's flagrant "war with the entire world" BS. I do not believe for an instant that ISIS would have treated the doctors in that camp any more gently than the shells that should not have hit them.
But realistically, nukes are not on the table. There are too many reasons not to do that. The only way that happens is if ISIS has one and they use it, or if any other rogue state has one and uses it. The consequences otherwise would be too dire for anyone to seriously consider.
I consider it far more likely that various governments might set the troops loose, and to the generals say "Don't tell us how you did it. Make them stop. now."
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Mortedeamor
The Black Masquerade
2
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Posted - 2015.11.15 02:01:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Forever ETC wrote:
We can but we won't... I don't see that happening anytime soon, especially with the backlash the U.S got for bombing that hospital of Doctors Without Borders. Imagine now purposely bombing all of ISIS/Extremist held ground in the Middle East... They may be bad but there are still humans in that occupied area who can't get out. If we start releasing mass amounts of nukes in that area we will have more blood in our hands than they ever had. Congratulations you eliminated a terrorist organization and killed millions, another one will rise again with even more hatred.
Doctors without borders was a goddamn travesty. However, I guarantee you that while the nerds immediately responsible for that show of cataclysmic stupid will probably burn, there will be no such concern should ISIS continue it's flagrant "war with the entire world" BS. I do not believe for an instant that ISIS would have treated the doctors in that camp any more gently than the shells that should not have hit them. But realistically, nukes are not on the table. There are too many reasons not to do that. The only way that happens is if ISIS has one and they use it, or if any other rogue state has one and uses it. The consequences otherwise would be too dire for anyone to seriously consider. I consider it far more likely that various governments might set the troops loose, and to the generals say "Don't tell us how you did it. Make them stop. now."
even if we dont use nukes we can use other things we can pour fire across their land like water and rain death on them...ide prefer to do this without troops but either way idc how they do it i just want it to stop...
might set the troops loose, and to the generals say "Don't tell us how you did it. Make them stop. now (please do)
i think we can all look ina another direction for a few months while the generals do what needs to be done ...it needs to be done...this needs to stop
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Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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there are no good answers here.
The moral high ground took a walk out behind the woodshed with a gun loaded with a single bullet, alone.
It's basically down to a couple questions:
Which countries will fight?
Which countries will capitulate?
This is what I am waiting to see.
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Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
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Mortedeamor wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:The most successful tactics the insurgent groups utilize is aggressive local recruitment.
I'm willing to bet they plan this **** for years until they can go over it by the numbers in their sleep. I was really out of this problem, but after this attack my first thing in mind was basicaly "nuke them". Honestly i know there is still people in place where are they, but if you ask me i will be for carpet attacks, supported by surgical strikes 24/7. This is enough. Im for people, for equality etc. But enought is enough. those were my first thoughts to after attacking france i am for nuclear retaliation Because if you know and you see, you must act. Just some interesting photos: AfganistanIran no its not that its because its personal now i lost family in France honestly they could all be wearing crucifixes and it would be no different in my mind...i just had a loved one killed in the name of religion ps if my assaults hurt a lil extra tonight its because im ******* PISSED
I meant it like i do not want my family be like this.
"We are the children of the Desolation."
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.15 02:21:00 -
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Shamarskii Simon wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:It is not by religion, they do not care about religion.
It is about amount of orthodox groups in state already.
And biggest amount is in France and England. Hmm? Care to explain for me? I was thinking like "orthodox church," so I must be wrong lol.
Not church i mean groups what openly supported orthodox kind of islam.
With sharia nonsence and crucifixion, terorist attacks etc.
"We are the children of the Desolation."
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General Mosquito
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.11.15 02:22:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:F*ck religious comparisons.
This is murder, an act forbidden by law.
Further, it is mass murder carried out in military fashion with intent to attack the fundamental rights and privileges enjoyed by the french.
In other times this would be declared an act of war.
It may have been done ostensibly for religious reasons. It may be the west is "reaping what it has sown."
These insurgent bastards are murderers. They are undeclared, un-uniformed enemy combatants on french soil. Screw the religious connotations, justifications and the bs.
An attack is an attack is an attack. Now the question is, will the french be the first to bring this sh*t to a screeching halt and actually take off the kid gloves?
All smartass jokes about the french at war aside, the french aren't lightweights when they don't have a sudden bumrush of ten tank divisions bombing across the country from a (theoretically) non-hostile neighbor.
If the french government acts, this isn't going to be a debate about christians versus muslims. It's going to be a sovereign nation retaliating against a rogue would-be nation fostering insurgency and murder within her borders.
It may be religious to the terrorists, but to the regular soldiers, it's just another fu**ing meatgrinder. It won't matter who the bad guys pray to at the end of the day.
Question remains: who says "screw it, no more playing nice" first?
I believe a century of domination and violence outweighs a couple of hundred french people.
Further, France already declared war by bombing DAESH, so blowback is to be expected is it not?
Where was your outrage and forum posting for the 60 people DAESH killed in Lebanon 3 days ago?
This false sanctimony on display is part of the reason why people dislike Westerners. The media has deeply conditioned your responses to events.
This complete willful ignorance of history, even when that history is extremely short term, is toxic to real understanding.
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.15 02:27:00 -
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PLAYSTTION wrote:General Mosquito wrote:Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:General Mosquito wrote:
What I linked quotes the Qu'ran. Maybe you should have read it jackass.
I'm dismissive of people like Islam is worse, when Christianity has the much higher running body count, and Western powers have spent the last 50 years pushing Islam to the extreme.
Wahhabism didn't get spread around on a whim, it was a policy decision by the West as part of their deal with the Saudis.
The West now reaps what it so happily sowed.
Read the complete post. I was in the process of editing it. Also, I see I'm dealing with a name calling fool. So, I will leave the arguement there. Again though, you can't pass judgment on Christianity based on the actions of ignorant people that use it for nefarious purposes. Jesus even made a point about at sort of thing both about himself and the Pharisees, who enforced Jewish law legalistically. So what, you exempt bible thumping terrorists, but not Islamic ones? The amount of hypocrisy and your attempted derision are laughable. I can and will condemn Christian extremists just as roundly as I condemn Islamic ones. I don't pretend that one is any less violent than the other, because they are not. Extreme religion is the extreme following of a religion. Extreme Christianity is showing love to everybody and share the gospel. Extreme Islam in my opinion is be kind to insiders but press more forcibly on others. I'm not muslim so I don't know all the inside stuff. I do know however that there is in muslim teaching, verses that clearly state to kill unbelievers and force them to submit and accept allah. As for your quotes clearly stating not to murder and stuff, I think that would be a more inside thing. I saw a post one time saying that the muslims who say Islam is a religion of peace are the ones who only carry it as a title and don't really practice it, like a lot of christians on the west. Now, with my version of extreme religion this kind of makes sense, not all Christians are extremists and don't practice all of the bibles teachings, maybe they curse or don't really do anything, like a lot of Christians I know.. Therefore, not all muslims are extremists, not all muslims go around threatening to kill people if the don't convert, some pick out the good bits and some just carry the title, like every muslim I know. Some people from both religions are misguided and do things the religion doesn't promote. No one is perfect, hypocrisy is impossible to avoid in any organization. I dont want to get into this forum argument so i won't reply to questions other than clarification.
I saw some extreme christians spiting on grave of fallen gay soldier.
There is not better religion, there is just good and bad people.
Im believe in good and bad in people, some call it atheism, some deism, some apatheism.
Honestly if i will see god i will tell him:"Oki hows goin boyko, you are real.", if not i will still see good and bad in people.
But most important thingy, i actually believe the major thing is what will be left after us.
After we die.
And that is important.
I do not want to be "that bast3rd boyo" who will be hated by everyone.
"We are the children of the Desolation."
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Mortedeamor
The Black Masquerade
2
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Posted - 2015.11.15 02:54:00 -
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General Mosquito wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:F*ck religious comparisons.
This is murder, an act forbidden by law.
Further, it is mass murder carried out in military fashion with intent to attack the fundamental rights and privileges enjoyed by the french.
In other times this would be declared an act of war.
It may have been done ostensibly for religious reasons. It may be the west is "reaping what it has sown."
These insurgent bastards are murderers. They are undeclared, un-uniformed enemy combatants on french soil. Screw the religious connotations, justifications and the bs.
An attack is an attack is an attack. Now the question is, will the french be the first to bring this sh*t to a screeching halt and actually take off the kid gloves?
All smartass jokes about the french at war aside, the french aren't lightweights when they don't have a sudden bumrush of ten tank divisions bombing across the country from a (theoretically) non-hostile neighbor.
If the french government acts, this isn't going to be a debate about christians versus muslims. It's going to be a sovereign nation retaliating against a rogue would-be nation fostering insurgency and murder within her borders.
It may be religious to the terrorists, but to the regular soldiers, it's just another fu**ing meatgrinder. It won't matter who the bad guys pray to at the end of the day.
Question remains: who says "screw it, no more playing nice" first? I believe a century of domination and violence outweighs a couple of hundred french people. Further, France already declared war by bombing DAESH, so blowback is to be expected is it not? Where was your outrage and forum posting for the 60 people DAESH killed in Lebanon 3 days ago? This false sanctimony on display is part of the reason why people dislike Westerners. The media has deeply conditioned your responses to events. This complete willful ignorance of history, even when that history is extremely short term, is toxic to real understanding.
are we supposed to be outraged over murders in Lebanon?
vs murders in France...is like comparing apples to oranges lol
also Lebanon is kinda in the middle of a **** storm death there is expected
is tragic the loss of 60 lives is very tragic but the higher reaction to lives lost in France is completely understandable in my opinion
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Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.15 03:06:00 -
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Honestly i do not care what is where.
Troublemakers should be catched, prosecuted and punished.
"We are the children of the Desolation."
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DeadlyAztec11
9
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Posted - 2015.11.15 03:31:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Golden Day wrote:I hope there is a world war 3 it will speed up technology progression so we have more ways to kill people!
laser rifles anyone? This isn't the time nor the place for such a comment. And this thread isn't dust related ,your point?
We need to wait a few generations so that there's nobody that was there.
It's the same reason people can joke about ancient wars where thousands die, but you are considered a psycho if you joke about recent events. It's all relative.
I doubt many would get offended if you made a joke about Sherman's march to the sea- you are considered edgy. Though, heaven forbid you make an ironic pass at either Gulf War.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2015.11.15 03:37:00 -
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General Mosquito wrote:
I believe a century of domination and violence outweighs a couple of hundred french people.
Further, France already declared war by bombing DAESH, so blowback is to be expected is it not?
Where was your outrage and forum posting for the 60 people DAESH killed in Lebanon 3 days ago?
This false sanctimony on display is part of the reason why people dislike Westerners. The media has deeply conditioned your responses to events.
This complete willful ignorance of history, even when that history is extremely short term, is toxic to real understanding.
Here, as in all things, I don't give a merry sh*t what you think.
Justify things all you like, but that doesn't change a damn thing. You can armchair history and say yhe murder of civilians in this particular manner is justified.
I will be cheering for the guys who are sent to torch the bastards who masterminded it.
And bluntly the middle east doesn't need western help to oppress itself. They're doing it just fine on their own in the areas that suffer this crap daily.
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General Mosquito
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.11.15 03:38:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:General Mosquito wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:F*ck religious comparisons.
This is murder, an act forbidden by law.
Further, it is mass murder carried out in military fashion with intent to attack the fundamental rights and privileges enjoyed by the french.
In other times this would be declared an act of war.
It may have been done ostensibly for religious reasons. It may be the west is "reaping what it has sown."
These insurgent bastards are murderers. They are undeclared, un-uniformed enemy combatants on french soil. Screw the religious connotations, justifications and the bs.
An attack is an attack is an attack. Now the question is, will the french be the first to bring this sh*t to a screeching halt and actually take off the kid gloves?
All smartass jokes about the french at war aside, the french aren't lightweights when they don't have a sudden bumrush of ten tank divisions bombing across the country from a (theoretically) non-hostile neighbor.
If the french government acts, this isn't going to be a debate about christians versus muslims. It's going to be a sovereign nation retaliating against a rogue would-be nation fostering insurgency and murder within her borders.
It may be religious to the terrorists, but to the regular soldiers, it's just another fu**ing meatgrinder. It won't matter who the bad guys pray to at the end of the day.
Question remains: who says "screw it, no more playing nice" first? I believe a century of domination and violence outweighs a couple of hundred french people. Further, France already declared war by bombing DAESH, so blowback is to be expected is it not? Where was your outrage and forum posting for the 60 people DAESH killed in Lebanon 3 days ago? This false sanctimony on display is part of the reason why people dislike Westerners. The media has deeply conditioned your responses to events. This complete willful ignorance of history, even when that history is extremely short term, is toxic to real understanding. are we supposed to be outraged over murders in Lebanon? vs murders in France...is like comparing apples to oranges lol also Lebanon is kinda in the middle of a **** storm death there is expected is tragic the loss of 60 lives is very tragic but the higher reaction to lives lost in France is completely understandable in my opinion France has been an ally to the us..since it was founded ..they are our oldest and closest ally our dearest friend higher levels of outrage are completely understandable for me the outrage is personal i knew some of the dead in France i knew no one in Lebanon
Your friend who died is worth just as much as a Lebanese or any other type of civilian. Not more though.
Beyond that, control yourself, and your emotions. We all lose people. It is nothing new. Handle yourself appropriately, instead of calling for nuclear war because you don't know how to deal with unpleasant feelings.
As long as this blatant double standard exists where Western lives are somehow more valuable, then more of this stuff will keep going on.
Although considering that DAESH only exists because of the Iraqi war, this is kind of a you break it, you bought it type of situation. Not that anyone will be thinking that way right now in all the patriotic fervour, but it is factually correct.
I really pity the thousands more middle eastern civilians who are going to die because of the escalation this will bring.
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Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.11.15 03:45:00 -
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i dont understand how some people think they are smart and using tactics when there bombig/shooting innocent people thats just wrong normal people in france wouldnt have a gun cause of course there illegal but yh id like to pay my respects to the peoples familys and the injured people there i know 2 dust players one being sequel rise but also members of my family that could have easily bein killed/injured nd sequel i hope 2 c u soon!
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