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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
7
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Posted - 2015.09.25 12:02:00 -
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I discovered this morning that when the other team is going whiled with them Locus Grenades, switching to a Caldary Sentinel fit makes a BIG difference in your serviceability. 
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
7
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Posted - 2015.09.25 12:10:00 -
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Megaman Trigger wrote:Just seen the Hotfix info; anyone else concerned about the grenade damage or is it just me?
Also, did I read right and all explosive weapons, including Locus Grenades, will deal full damage vs vehicles? Might have to start carrying the Packed Locus if that's true.
It looks that way. It might make it worth putting Locus Grenades on our AHMG fits. Not quite the same bang of an AV grenade against Tanks, and not the blast radius of a Flux when clearing equipment, but overall, more versatile.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Megaman Trigger
OSG Planetary Operations
780
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Posted - 2015.09.25 13:01:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:I discovered this morning that when the other team is going whiled with them Locus Grenades, switching to a Caldary Sentinel fit makes a BIG difference in your serviceability.
Big resistance and the regen kicks in between grenades.
Purifier. First Class.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
11
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Posted - 2015.09.26 21:37:00 -
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My obsessive use of calsents and minsents is 99% of the reason I haven't been instagibbed by cores.
That and my assault armor suits rock around 1000 raw HP without shield mods
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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VAHZZ
RabbitGang
13 COILS
9
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Posted - 2015.09.26 21:54:00 -
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I should've specced fully into Sent :| now the GalAss is gonna be OP. I don't want to be OP.
Co-Founder of RabbitGang
"VAHZZ is Forum Jesus" - GJR
OG Scout Sniper.
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Georgia Xavier
Incorruptibles
1
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Posted - 2015.09.26 22:04:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:I should've specced fully into Sent :| now the GalAss is gonna be OP. I don't want to be OP.
Well just have as much fun as you can. Double ion pistol builds sound like a blast still
Click for an instant good day! (or atleast cheer you up a bit)
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
11
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Posted - 2015.09.26 23:23:00 -
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Actually if the gallente assaults mass swap to assault rifles and BAR, etc then they should balance out well for CQC and fast attack.
The galmando was already pretty solid after the slot changes if we can get all the commando CPU/PG issues sorted.
Galsent will have to wait a little longer for it's day of parity. But I think we have found a way to put it even with the golden fatty.
If rattati decides he likes it, then we might see some progress there.
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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Regnier Feros
Pielords
800
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Posted - 2015.09.27 01:47:00 -
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Going back to my classic amarr sent fit.
2 reds
2 reps
burst hmg
assault smg
flux nade
krin's dmg mod
TIFFANY WILL RISE AGAIN
I LIKE PIE
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Regnier Feros
Pielords
800
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Posted - 2015.09.27 03:17:00 -
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Regnier Feros wrote:Going back to my classic amarr sent fit.
2 reds
2 reps
burst hmg
assault smg
flux nade
krin's dmg mod
TIFFANY WILL RISE AGAIN
tried 2 reds now i'm trying 1 red 1 green then 1 green 3 reps
I LIKE PIE
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
11
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Posted - 2015.09.27 03:50:00 -
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Green bottles are better for slow suits IMHO
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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VAHZZ
RabbitGang
13 COILS
9
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Posted - 2015.09.27 03:56:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Actually if the gallente assaults mass swap to assault rifles and BAR, etc then they should balance out well for CQC and fast attack.
The galmando was already pretty solid after the slot changes if we can get all the commando CPU/PG issues sorted.
Galsent will have to wait a little longer for it's day of parity. But I think we have found a way to put it even with the golden fatty.
If rattati decides he likes it, then we might see some progress there.
The regular and breach ARs will be balanced. I see the Tac and Burst being unholy abominations.
Co-Founder of RabbitGang
"VAHZZ is Forum Jesus" - GJR
OG Scout Sniper.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
11
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Posted - 2015.09.27 10:34:00 -
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Aren't they already?
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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Regnier Feros
Pielords
803
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Posted - 2015.09.27 10:38:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Green bottles are better for slow suits IMHO
Can confirm i'm loving the 1 green 3 reps combo
I LIKE PIE
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Megaman Trigger
OSG Planetary Operations
788
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Posted - 2015.09.27 13:29:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:My obsessive use of calsents and minsents is 99% of the reason I haven't been instagibbed by cores.
That and my assault armor suits rock around 1000 raw HP without shield mods
What do you run on your Gal Sent? I'm currently running a Plate and 2 Reps in the lows with two Side Arm mods in the highs, though I might try two Shield Extenders.
Purifier. First Class.
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Aeon Amadi
12
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Posted - 2015.09.27 16:12:00 -
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Reposting from my thread on GD:
So with Hotfix Foxfour the Gallente assault is getting an RoF buff. This will help propel the Gallente Assault into a higher CQC use rate but at the same time I'm sort of concerned as to how that is going to affect Sentinels - notably HMG Sentinels. With AR's having a higher range, greater variety, and general versatility, the increase in DPS is something I'm concerned about overshadowing the HMG.
Can someone run the numbers and compare the pros and cons of both?
Another concern I'm having is that the AHMG is good but I'm concerned it may be overshadowing the Vanilla HMG. With greater versatility (AV capability), longer range, better accuracy, and higher damage capability, the AHMG seems to just be overall better than the HMG.
Do you think it's necessary to bring the vanilla HMG up? What are some creative ways we can bring the HMG up, if necessary, without directly changing it's DPS?
Caldari and Minmatar Sentinels, what are your expectations for the shield changes in Hotfix Foxfour?
Negative Introspection - Aeon's CPM Blog
Skype: nomistrav
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Regnier Feros
Pielords
804
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Posted - 2015.09.27 16:19:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Reposting from my thread on GD:
So with Hotfix Foxfour the Gallente assault is getting an RoF buff. This will help propel the Gallente Assault into a higher CQC use rate but at the same time I'm sort of concerned as to how that is going to affect Sentinels - notably HMG Sentinels. With AR's having a higher range, greater variety, and general versatility, the increase in DPS is something I'm concerned about overshadowing the HMG.
Can someone run the numbers and compare the pros and cons of both?
Another concern I'm having is that the AHMG is good but I'm concerned it may be overshadowing the Vanilla HMG. With greater versatility (AV capability), longer range, better accuracy, and higher damage capability, the AHMG seems to just be overall better than the HMG.
Do you think it's necessary to bring the vanilla HMG up? What are some creative ways we can bring the HMG up, if necessary, without directly changing it's DPS?
Caldari and Minmatar Sentinels, what are your expectations for the shield changes in Hotfix Foxfour?
I don't mean to derail but what's your opinion on the burst hmg?
I LIKE PIE
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
11
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Posted - 2015.09.27 17:22:00 -
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Crap
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2015.09.27 18:18:00 -
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Give me the numbers to HMG and AR and I'll do your number crunching.
But if the AR gets a buff without an HMG buff to go with it I can almost guarantee the HMG will be out performed. Maps favor range gameplay already too much as it is, and heavy meta favoring the speedier suits these days if you're running solo.
the AR's hip fire is better then the HMG's for accuracy as it is. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
11
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Posted - 2015.09.27 19:56:00 -
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Standard HMG needs a rework of some kind that doesn't involve merrily sh*tting all over the gallente as the CQC race.
I'll bring it up with Rattati once I get an opening. I want to get some other things pushed theough, like making sure the shield changes are balanced and potentially finishing the next step we have planned before I declare op success and start pushing things for sentinels.
The calsent will be completely unchanged by the current hotfix in case you have not noticed. It was used as the baseline for shield suits.
I'm trying to get the things that affect the highest number of people adjusted fairly first. After that I will see what we can do with the HMG. I have a few ideas. If you nerds want to help me cook numbers It will help my case a lot better.
But a couple requests:
1: it cannot obviate gallente assaults and commandos. If it renders them pointless we have a problem.
2: I would like to simply normalize the heat across tiers for simplicity. This is optional. But it might help our case.
3: we don't marry ourselves to "king CQC" as the only options for rework. The burst HMG is an amazing example of what a heavy weapon in CQC should be. When it's functional. I'm not enamored with shoot a couple times then sidearm as the meta. Powerful is good. Requiring fire discipline is better.
4: I don't want these requests/guidelines to be percieved as demands. But I guarantee you if we can't figure out how to work with #1 we won't be taken seriously.
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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Aeon Amadi
12
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Posted - 2015.09.27 20:10:00 -
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Shadowed Cola wrote:Give me the numbers to HMG and AR and I'll do your number crunching.
But if the AR gets a buff without an HMG buff to go with it I can almost guarantee the HMG will be out performed. Maps favor range gameplay already too much as it is, and heavy meta favoring the speedier suits these days if you're running solo.
the AR's hip fire is better then the HMG's for accuracy as it is.
If I knew the numbers off the top of my head I wouldn't have asked for them lol. I'm not in a position to get them right now.
Negative Introspection - Aeon's CPM Blog
Skype: nomistrav
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
11
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Posted - 2015.09.28 08:32:00 -
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I'll ask thaddeus to post them here.
but he confirms the AHMG is the lowest-DPS HMG variant.
He has a spreadsheet and everything that I forgot to link because he's poking at why the Burst HMG seems to be performing so poorly.
WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
7
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Posted - 2015.09.28 12:01:00 -
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Megaman Trigger wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:My obsessive use of calsents and minsents is 99% of the reason I haven't been instagibbed by cores.
That and my assault armor suits rock around 1000 raw HP without shield mods What do you run on your Gal Sent? I'm currently running a Plate and 2 Reps in the lows with two Side Arm mods in the highs, though I might try two Shield Extenders.
That would be a rocking fit if you are swinging a Burst HMG.
But I suppose you are probably running a Forge with it. Definitely a good frontline forge fit.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
7
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Posted - 2015.09.28 12:15:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:He has a spreadsheet and everything that I forgot to link because he's poking at why the Burst HMG seems to be performing so poorly.
The Burst HMG performs flawlessly if you hit your target. It is just that between having to be accurate with the few shots you have, and the challenge of heat management, it is probably the hardest weapon in the game to use effectively right now. It takes experience and discipline to master.
I don't have a problem with some weapon variants being hard to use, and thus not hugely popular, as long as the weapon is effective when mastered. The Burst HMG is effective when mastered. That is what is important.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
7
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Posted - 2015.09.28 12:22:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:
Another concern I'm having is that the AHMG is good but I'm concerned it may be overshadowing the Vanilla HMG. With greater versatility (AV capability), longer range, better accuracy, and higher damage capability, the AHMG seems to just be overall better than the HMG.
The standard HMG kills much faster in CQC than the AHMG.
Just make sure that with a much shorter range than the Plasma Rifle, the standard HMG maintains a DPS advantage over it in CQC.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Megaman Trigger
OSG Planetary Operations
788
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Posted - 2015.09.28 12:32:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:Megaman Trigger wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:My obsessive use of calsents and minsents is 99% of the reason I haven't been instagibbed by cores.
That and my assault armor suits rock around 1000 raw HP without shield mods What do you run on your Gal Sent? I'm currently running a Plate and 2 Reps in the lows with two Side Arm mods in the highs, though I might try two Shield Extenders. That would be a rocking fit if you are swinging a Burst HMG. But I suppose you are probably running a Forge with it. Definitely a good frontline forge fit.
I actually have that set for both my Forge and HMG fits on Gal Sent.
Purifier. First Class.
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Thaddeus Reynolds
Facepunch Security
455
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Posted - 2015.09.28 14:00:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:I'll ask thaddeus to post them here.
but he confirms the AHMG is the lowest-DPS HMG variant.
He has a spreadsheet and everything that I forgot to link because he's poking at why the Burst HMG seems to be performing so poorly.
HMG vs Post Fox-Four Plasma Rifles on L5 Gal-Assaults
Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper.
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Megaman Trigger
OSG Planetary Operations
789
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Posted - 2015.09.28 14:20:00 -
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Thaddeus Reynolds wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:I'll ask thaddeus to post them here.
but he confirms the AHMG is the lowest-DPS HMG variant.
He has a spreadsheet and everything that I forgot to link because he's poking at why the Burst HMG seems to be performing so poorly. HMG vs Post Fox-Four Plasma Rifles on L5 Gal-Assaults
So only the TAR will out-DPS us?
Does this take in to account heat management?
Purifier. First Class.
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Thaddeus Reynolds
Facepunch Security
455
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Posted - 2015.09.28 14:23:00 -
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Megaman Trigger wrote:Thaddeus Reynolds wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:I'll ask thaddeus to post them here.
but he confirms the AHMG is the lowest-DPS HMG variant.
He has a spreadsheet and everything that I forgot to link because he's poking at why the Burst HMG seems to be performing so poorly. HMG vs Post Fox-Four Plasma Rifles on L5 Gal-Assaults So only the TAR will out-DPS us? Does this take in to account heat management?
The DPS Numbers do not but the heat statistics are on the raw data page for the HMGs, additionally, the PS3 cannot accept an input greater than 600 Rounds Per Minutes (as it has an update rate of 10ms from the controllers), so the TacAR shouldn't be able to actually gain any DPS from the RoF change,
Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper.
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Megaman Trigger
OSG Planetary Operations
807
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Posted - 2015.09.30 23:09:00 -
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I was just looking through the Marketplace when I noticed that the Gallente Heavy (non-Sentinel) Frames still have the old 1/4 loadout, and the Amarr Heavy have the 2/3 from before they were swapped. Can't believe I missed that before.
Purifier. First Class.
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Vitharr Foebane
2
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Posted - 2015.09.30 23:13:00 -
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Megaman Trigger wrote:I was just looking through the Marketplace when I noticed that the Gallente Heavy (non-Sentinel) Frames still have the old 1/4 loadout, and the Amarr Heavy have the 2/3 from before they were swapped. Can't believe I missed that before.
the original Amarr heavy was 2/3 and the original sentinel was 1/4 i do not consider them swapped only that the Amarr went back to what they were supposed to be
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