The Gal sent is the second most flexible in fittings. It doesn't need to be respec'd! That is due to the fact that it has the ability to be defense and attack.

Just because some people want to use it solely for defense does not make it an ideal candidate for respec. I think the Gal sent is the second best for the forge gun. That is because it is able to rep through sniper and RR fire while having enough high slots to put on a myo and a some dmg mods.

Hell, the gal sent is great for charging points due to the fact it isn't going to be as slow as an Amarr sent and doesn't need a rep leash to charge assaults. If there is a heavy there waiting, yeah, that is a tactical disadvantage, but that happens. Use your speed to maneuver down some stairs or away to out range, kill the logi, and fight the second heavy from his max range. If it is a Cal sent, you won't outrun it if you have a complex plate, but hopefully you brought some flux nades for those squids.

Personally I find the min sent useless, but that is just me. The suit has very little EHP so it isn't really a heavy. Yeah, you can jump around with a forge gun or HMG, but you will lose out to any other heavy in CQC and you are too slow to fight the commandos and assaults. I hate how the only officer heavy is the Archduke. It just doesn't feel worth the skilling.

This is the same argument they had with the scouts!
Yes, the Gal scout was the most superior in the current meta due to the high low mix and reps making hit and run ideal for a scout. Cal scouts should be better but having very few low slots they can't stack a red, green, and damp. Does that mean the scout is useless, NO! It means it has a different play style. Same with Heavies.

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Glad you brought up Forge Gun.

Damage mods is useless on the Forge unless you're a caldari fully stacking. You do not get enough added DPS to change how many shots it takes to kill a tank or ADS.

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Glad you brought up Forge Gun.

Damage mods is useless on the Forge unless you're a caldari fully stacking. You do not get enough added DPS to change how many shots it takes to kill a tank or ADS. /quote]

Would disagree and say damage mods are only useful on the BFG, no more than 2 due to stacking penalty, or if you plan to frag infantry.

Breach? Mmm

You know, I usually use the AFG, myself. On average of 3 clips, it pulls out way more over-all DPS then the other forges. Problem is aiming and practicality.

When I tried the other forges I did so with the Amarr and Caldari. Caldari obviously steam rolling anything that dared be too big near it.

But the thing I noticed is when it comes to forging - what matters more then which weapon you pick is positioning. Caldari, might hit hard, but it'll have a hard time getting to point A to B safely so that it can take out a tank trying to duck and cover behind nodes and doodads.

Gallant can't possibly do it.

Minmtar has success at it - but is underwhelming.

The Amarr is just ridiculously good at this, having several different forge suit options that all increase survivability more then health would and the stamina to sprint all day.


Forges can't kill tanks reasonably 1v1 without them running away - wish we had sticky nades :(

I've had the opposite experience with the Cal and Gal; Cal's shield regen makes it great vs Missile ADS or popping in and out of cover vs HAVs, as well as being able to take punishment while moving and regen it in moments.

The Gal Sent's second high lets me buff it's side arm with either two Krin's (if powering up the Forge too) or two side arm mods if I go base Forge, letting me fight back better. Might be slow and steady but, with Flux and Breach SMG, it hurts like hell.

I've been able to move around with both and get into positions thanks yo either regen or side arm firepower. Or point blank forge shots.

Why had I not thought about a regulator stacked caldari forge before?!

I gotta give that a whirl - I bet it's a huge WP farmer.

And you have a very interesting concept I never thought of before. Since damage mods on forges are mostly useless (to me, anyways) then putting side arm mods on instead to help fight infantry may indeed but a viable choice for the Gal.

But that Caldari set up may be my next ground forge suit for PC matches - my Amarr Ground Forge suit is a city suit meant to beat anything but heavies 1v1 while keeping ADS from the skies - it's effective, especially because of the speed. But even when I 4 stack armor reps I'm still out of the fight for too long that the ADS can cause considerable damage.

Regulators on a Caldari may be the answer I'm looking for.

Ops, yea, sorry, brain fart. Hope what I said is still understandable lol

I love the forge with all my <3 My favorite combo will always be an LAV, SMG, and Forge. The ultimately stomp combo. If you know your spots, you can hold pretty much every objective safely from a distance and no 1 person can handle you.

Only objectives inside buildings make my forge combo a bit sad - but long corridors often work out for it :)

Shield tanked LAV, harden it and hop out. Most tankers will go for it rather than the Sentinel, why gives you time to take shots from behind your mobile cover. Used to work well before the last tank tweak.

For the Sentinel, try two Rechargers, an Extender and a side arm or Krin's mod. Swap the Extender for another Recharger if you prefer.

I do this as well, but I like to do this with my bpo LAV. I call it in and use it as bait for tanks. just drop it in a field or street. As they come in, throw out your flux nade and hit it in the sweet spot before it can run. 2 shots and most HAVs are done for. HAVs can't resist blowing up a LAV as it comes in. Or sometimes I will see the reds hack it and get in, that is just funny as I drop the hammer!

So, I'm not the only Forge Gunner using Flux Grenades. I prefer them for tank hunting over AV Grenades, if I get the drop on a HAV.

One time, just burning Aurum gear I got from salvage, I booby trapped a BPO LAV and left it out in the open. Waited until it was hacked and loaded up, then blew the charges. Points and tears rolled in.

Man, those tears must have been delicious!

Best tears were shooting the driver out of a fast moving LAV, using a Breach Forge Gun.

Best tears I have gotten is when some guy with a Forge Gun on the other team shot my Squad mate's tank at point blank range, only to find out the hard way that I had left a remote explosive lashed to the side of the tank.


I don't often play Logi... but when I do, things blow up!

That's one way to counter AV Scouts.

Yeah, the original plan was for me to activate the Remote when the Scouts got too close. The Forge Gunner setting off the RE while standing in the blast radius was a total fluke, particularly since I was dead a the time and could not trigger it myself.

Boy, lot has happened since I got just a tad busy, gal sent still has no love from you guys huh?

I still use it and will continue to do so.

Heck I don't mind the sentinels, I love them all really. Well maybe not the min sent, its a great sent but is minmatar

Bet you're conflicted over the HMG and Locus Grenades, both being Min.

Using it against the many other amarr sentinels out there makes my heart bleed, yes. On the other hand I also kill minmatar with their own weapon so thats the good part.

Yes, you're spot on

Guess that's the problem with trying to be an Amarr loyalist and and Sentinel; you don't have the Heavy Weapons available.

I'm a merc, I'll use whatever I think works best. Loyalty be damned, I'm a Sentinel first and foremost.

One day there will be an Amarr heavy weapon, and on that day I will be blind to CCP's blunders up until that point.


But alas, such is an ever-distant dream I hold onto so dearly......

The day I get the Sentinel equivalent of a Buster, or the Dust equivalent of an SG1 Staff Cannon, everything dies.

Then how about a deal, IF we do get our racial weapons, how about we go on a hunt for each other?