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Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 1358	Posted - 2015.01.14 02:30:00 - [91] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: Question. Originally the warbarge was thought of as a capital ship. Is it still a capital ship? Prolly a CRAPital ship, amirite?_ 1 Warbarge. 5 market networks. Proto for everyone!

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 14719	Posted - 2015.01.14 02:36:00 - [92] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: I just want to know how in the world does every mercenary have his own personal Warbarge. I am pretending that hundreds of DUST mercs are living in warbarges that they all chip in for. Like giant flying apartment complexes. That's how I justify it in my head... the idea of each merc having his/her own warbarge is silly. Like Pilots having thousands of Ships and Titans in their inventory... "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"


CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 14720	Posted - 2015.01.14 02:40:00 - [93] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: True Adamance wrote: iKILLu osborne wrote: Kevall Longstride wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: I just want to know how in the world does every mercenary have his own personal Warbarge. You all get a free one to start. from whom?, what for(as in why do we deserve it?, can i sell it for boat load of isk?, wouldn't it be cheaper to make noobs sleep in broom closet? Who flies it? How do they fly it? Why the **** do they listen to me? What am I going to do with it? Did I steal it? Did the Empire give it to me? Why? Where am I going to keep it? Do I have to feed it? Will my landlord let me keep it on the station? Well True, I believe this is largely to lessen the perception that we are 'beneath' capsuleers. To me they kind of make me think of wh40k battle barges. Our methods may be violent but we're one of the least permanently damaging ways to control a planet. Warbarges are essential to our function in flipping districts as the specialized electronic warfare they provides makes orbital defenses vulnerable and our dropsuits provide a direct connection for hacking when defenses are 'neutral'. So I imagine much like how people became capsuleers everyone has their own story. Some may have bought their warbarge, others (like paladin Templars) had them given by their empire, some may have made their own, others may have been stolen or had their former crew murdered singlehandedly for possession. So yeah, it probably has a small crew completely loyal to you for whatever reason (Fear? Devotion? Respect? Profits? Beliefs?). Make your own RP about it, as based on what rattati has said it's practically an open book for RP. Love it "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

LUGMOS Quafe Premium 1523	Posted - 2015.01.14 02:53:00 - [94] - Quote Wait, wait, wait... Is The Door actually going to open? Or is it going to be like "rooms", only actually a part of the neocom? If the door opens, it'll be another **** you EvE pilots, like Jara Kumora. We got The Door open first Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
Thaddeus Reynolds Facepunch Security 151	Posted - 2015.01.14 02:55:00 - [95] - Quote ooh, statistics looks interesting...can't wait to start customizing something more (maybe have some visual stuff for our Merc Quarters...maybe a window?) I always imagined the Warbarges as heavily modified Industrial Ships...or even Orcas (modified to fit guns meant for orbital bombardment, plenty of storage space for the massive numbers of vehicles some of us use)...and with the capsuleer concept of the Orca as the Space RV...why not? What do you think IWS? a modified (like tech 2) Orca (smallest of the capitals)? Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper. I believe all these roles are support for front line soldiers.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16565	Posted - 2015.01.14 03:06:00 - [96] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Love it CCP Rattati you have made me responsible for the lives of my crew....... how can I RP all of these people? I guess it's off the merc super market to pick up some Water, Amarrian Wheat, Milk, and Exotic Dancers to keep them happy. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 6614	Posted - 2015.01.14 03:09:00 - [97] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Like Pilots having thousands of Ships and Titans in their inventory... Those pilots had to work up to those ships and titans. They begin their lives in a tiny newbie ship. It can take years to purchase/build then learn to fly something like a titan. But mercenaries are given a warbarge because reasons. Then they require quite literally 0 SP to operate. I mean, I'll still use one. I'll just need to give up some of my 'willing suspension of disbelief' to do so. Just call me Ripple. Ripple Riley. @Ripley_Riley
Thaddeus Reynolds Facepunch Security 152	Posted - 2015.01.14 03:11:00 - [98] - Quote True Adamance wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Love it CCP Rattati you have made me responsible for the lives of my crew....... how can I RP all of these people? I guess it's off the merc super market to pick up some Water, Amarrian Wheat, Milk, and Exotic Dancers to keep them happy. Work out of a station and commute to battles in a lightly modified Purifier? or maybe a Dragoon? I dunno say you use a smaller ship with just the crew you need, and your warbarge upgrades that affect passive things are installed in one of the many stations? (then you only need to keep track of a handful of people) Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper. I believe all these roles are support for front line soldiers.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16565	Posted - 2015.01.14 03:18:00 - [99] - Quote Thaddeus Reynolds wrote: True Adamance wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Love it CCP Rattati you have made me responsible for the lives of my crew....... how can I RP all of these people? I guess it's off the merc super market to pick up some Water, Amarrian Wheat, Milk, and Exotic Dancers to keep them happy. Work out of a station and commute to battles in a lightly modified Purifier? or maybe a Dragoon? I dunno say you use a smaller ship with just the crew you need, and your warbarge upgrades that affect passive things are installed in one of the many stations? (then you only need to keep track of a handful of people) Assuming its the size of a Cruiser..... yes I can create 25-30 unique characters for my Battlebar.... I mean Warbarge. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
Sigourney Reever Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm 75	Posted - 2015.01.14 03:21:00 - [100] - Quote What are the justifications for personal warbarges? It seems counterintuitive that each merc would have his or her own warbarge. Corporation level warbarges or even multiple WBs per corporation (based on skills obviously, as with module access/upgrades) make more sense. There are plenty of reasons to keep warbarge access at the corporation level but I can't for the life of me think of any that would seem logical lore wise or for any other reason to have personal Warbarges. (it was mentioned that it was supposed to be a capital ship, wouldn't that be a valid goal even if not implementable immediately?) The Warbarge as a social space makes sense, as a PC, FW or other organized >1 squad, pre battle platform it makes sense. That's all at the Corporate level, at least, in NPC Warbarges prior to Public contracts the NPC should own the Warbarge. Perhaps a middle ground between personal warbarges and corporate warbarges could be skills (or some other access method) that allow access to NPC Barge modules (as one is 'loaded' into an NPC WB prior to a public match) or god forbid 'station services' in the merc quarters. You've already proven capable of altering the Merc Quarters. Most of the personal benefits one would use for personal warbarges seem to be economic, why not add them to the Merc Quarters and leave the Warbarge for battlefield upgrades and group activities. Again, Justifications for Personal Warbarges are welcomed. Also, zero mention of installations and vehicles, barely any mention of the MCC. It'd be better if the warbarge stuck to its existing presumed uses already in the game: delivering vehicles and installations and the MCC to a battle. Someone (a cpm member i think) said it was easier to work on weapon items than installations and vehicles. Turrets (and heavy weapons, which were supposed to be equiv to small turret weapons, a completely reasonable concept) suffer from huge gaping holes (Amarr and Minmatar holes) and any additions here cascade from vehicles to into installations so any investment will get double returns in diversity. Let the Warbarge Modules do Warbarge things (delivering vehicles, installations, and MCC's, providing prebattle intel, and ewar) for groups.

Thaddeus Reynolds Facepunch Security 152	Posted - 2015.01.14 03:21:00 - [101] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Thaddeus Reynolds wrote: True Adamance wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Love it CCP Rattati you have made me responsible for the lives of my crew....... how can I RP all of these people? I guess it's off the merc super market to pick up some Water, Amarrian Wheat, Milk, and Exotic Dancers to keep them happy. Work out of a station and commute to battles in a lightly modified Purifier? or maybe a Dragoon? I dunno say you use a smaller ship with just the crew you need, and your warbarge upgrades that affect passive things are installed in one of the many stations? (then you only need to keep track of a handful of people) Assuming its the size of a Cruiser..... yes I can create 25-30 unique characters for my Battlebar.... I mean Warbarge. So...a Maller or maybe a Pilgrim (for the cloak)? Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper. I believe all these roles are support for front line soldiers.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16568	Posted - 2015.01.14 03:23:00 - [102] - Quote Thaddeus Reynolds wrote: True Adamance wrote: Thaddeus Reynolds wrote: True Adamance wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Love it CCP Rattati you have made me responsible for the lives of my crew....... how can I RP all of these people? I guess it's off the merc super market to pick up some Water, Amarrian Wheat, Milk, and Exotic Dancers to keep them happy. Work out of a station and commute to battles in a lightly modified Purifier? or maybe a Dragoon? I dunno say you use a smaller ship with just the crew you need, and your warbarge upgrades that affect passive things are installed in one of the many stations? (then you only need to keep track of a handful of people) Assuming its the size of a Cruiser..... yes I can create 25-30 unique characters for my Battlebar.... I mean Warbarge. So...a Maller or maybe a Pilgrim (for the cloak)? That Tash-Murkon Omen you sold me. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
SILENTSAM 69 SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION 744	Posted - 2015.01.14 05:57:00 - [103] - Quote If the Uprising is over and the mercs will now have Warbarges, will we finally be able to move about to different systems. Changing which system our local chat is in? The amount of freedom it would make a person feel would be amazing. It would also allow people to move to the HQ for their corps, or some system a group of friends like to go and chat in. It has great potential for people who RP. Please can we finally break the shackles that keep us in only one system we can call our local? I know there are something like 50 different systems us mercs are spread through, but we would love to be found other systems. Chatting up pilots, or just choosing a quiet place.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 9214	Posted - 2015.01.14 06:01:00 - [104] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Like Pilots having thousands of Ships and Titans in their inventory... Those pilots had to work up to those ships and titans. They begin their lives in a tiny newbie ship. It can take years to purchase/build then learn to fly something like a titan. But mercenaries are given a warbarge because reasons. Then they require quite literally 0 SP to operate. I mean, I'll still use one. I'll just need to give up some of my 'willing suspension of disbelief' to do so. Rattati, have you ever played EVE? If these warbarges are what we think they are from the things titled "Warbarges" in the past Dust trailers these things are freackin Capital ships, you know how special a capital ship is in EVE? Capitals do not appear out of thin air for capsuleer, and as a private citizen, it actually takes a great amount of work to actually acquire one. Apparently people think Titans grow on trees. Once you board that ship you're in it until it goes boom or you abandon it, the ship can't even dock. It's a huge deal. Of course, if you guys want to go back on lore and make warbarges something like a T1 freighter go ahead, its not like lore is relevant anymore. At least a small freighter is more believable than a damned capital ship. CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 1359	Posted - 2015.01.14 06:10:00 - [105] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Like Pilots having thousands of Ships and Titans in their inventory... Those pilots had to work up to those ships and titans. They begin their lives in a tiny newbie ship. It can take years to purchase/build then learn to fly something like a titan. But mercenaries are given a warbarge because reasons. Then they require quite literally 0 SP to operate. I mean, I'll still use one. I'll just need to give up some of my 'willing suspension of disbelief' to do so. Rattati, have you ever played EVE? If these warbarges are what we think they are from the things titled "Warbarges" in the past Dust trailers these things are freackin Capital ships, you know how special a capital ship is in EVE? Capitals do not appear out of thin air for capsuleer, and as a private citizen, it actually takes a great amount of work to actually acquire one. Apparently people think Titans grow on trees. Once you board that ship you're in it until it goes boom or you abandon it, the ship can't even dock. It's a huge deal. Of course, if you guys want to go back on lore and make warbarges something like a T1 freighter go ahead, its not like lore is relevant anymore. At least a small freighter is more believable than a damned capital ship. And the crux of the matter boils down to this: Don't make my game more engrossing; it'll mess up the lore. EFFING WRITE NEW LORE FOR IT. FFS IWS did a page back, or are we all skipping it for angsty teenager reasons? sidenote, if your CFC, N3, or PL, yes titans do grow on trees. 1 Warbarge. 5 market networks. Proto for everyone!
Auris Lionesse Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 1327	Posted - 2015.01.14 06:31:00 - [106] - Quote so ive been thumbing through the pages. are we going to be able to freely fly these and walk around inside them, and will i have an npc crew or is it just going to be all by myself? rattati said the command room as in the warbarge room we wait in between matches? its just a big empty room with nothing to do in it. i dont really get the point apart from having a big window and being able to look out. will these be present in new eden for capsuleers to see and attack or something? will i be able to see the planets and stuff outside of my ship as i move around between systems? the idea of them providing ingame bonuses should be limited to things like orbitals and vehicle deployment/recall timers. so a superior warbarge could do better strikes, or have ann expedited deployment or recovery. but no straight up damage buffs to weapons. if warbarges are capitals where are they coming from? shouldnt it be more the size of a rookie ship? those are free in eve. will i be able to sell it or destroy it? ive seen this raised and i dont recall seeing an answer. ratatti mentioned drones? will these be new weapons for the gallente as well? or just a explanation for salvage generation? with no actual models or ingame use. does this mean no more merc quarters and we'll have like a captains room on board the warbarge as an option? obviously our merc quarters door cannot open and lead to the warbarge room because its on stations one, and two they are different races and all warbarges in dust currently are caldari. it wouldnt make sense. man idk i just ... i just dont get what the point of all this is. is iceland supporting this? did they have a say in it at all or is this all shanghai? Don't vote for iron wolf saber. Vote for someone who will help the community i.e. anyone else.
Auris Lionesse Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 1327	Posted - 2015.01.14 06:35:00 - [107] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Like Pilots having thousands of Ships and Titans in their inventory... Those pilots had to work up to those ships and titans. They begin their lives in a tiny newbie ship. It can take years to purchase/build then learn to fly something like a titan. But mercenaries are given a warbarge because reasons. Then they require quite literally 0 SP to operate. I mean, I'll still use one. I'll just need to give up some of my 'willing suspension of disbelief' to do so. Rattati, have you ever played EVE? If these warbarges are what we think they are from the things titled "Warbarges" in the past Dust trailers these things are freackin Capital ships, you know how special a capital ship is in EVE? Capitals do not appear out of thin air for capsuleer, and as a private citizen, it actually takes a great amount of work to actually acquire one. Apparently people think Titans grow on trees. Once you board that ship you're in it until it goes boom or you abandon it, the ship can't even dock. It's a huge deal. Of course, if you guys want to go back on lore and make warbarges something like a T1 freighter go ahead, its not like lore is relevant anymore. At least a small freighter is more believable than a damned capital ship. iirc he said hes never played eve, or at the very least is not an active player. i cant remember. that should be grounds for disqualification to even work on this game imo. i dont even know where this game is going anymore. its just getting further off track of the original goal, especially with stuff like this that doesnt make sense. the game just needs to be transferred over to iceland. Don't vote for iron wolf saber. Vote for someone who will help the community i.e. anyone else.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1882	Posted - 2015.01.14 06:40:00 - [108] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Like Pilots having thousands of Ships and Titans in their inventory... Those pilots had to work up to those ships and titans. They begin their lives in a tiny newbie ship. It can take years to purchase/build then learn to fly something like a titan. But mercenaries are given a warbarge because reasons. Then they require quite literally 0 SP to operate. I mean, I'll still use one. I'll just need to give up some of my 'willing suspension of disbelief' to do so. Rattati, have you ever played EVE? If these warbarges are what we think they are from the things titled "Warbarges" in the past Dust trailers these things are freackin Capital ships, you know how special a capital ship is in EVE? Capitals do not appear out of thin air for capsuleer, and as a private citizen, it actually takes a great amount of work to actually acquire one. Apparently people think Titans grow on trees. Once you board that ship you're in it until it goes boom or you abandon it, the ship can't even dock. It's a huge deal. Of course, if you guys want to go back on lore and make warbarges something like a T1 freighter go ahead, its not like lore is relevant anymore. At least a small freighter is more believable than a damned capital ship. Capital != Titan or Mothership, those are SUPERcapitals. Dreads and Carriers and rorquals and orca's are all 'capitals', 3/4 of those cost a billion or less. Hell you could probably even convert a noctis into a 'warbarge'. Warbarges have never been given a proper model even in the trailers. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 18312	Posted - 2015.01.14 07:04:00 - [109] - Quote CCP Rattati was an Eve Online Developer CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Forge Gun=// Unlocked

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 14731	Posted - 2015.01.14 07:08:00 - [110] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: CCP Rattati was an Eve Online Developer Nono :) "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"



CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 14733	Posted - 2015.01.14 07:09:00 - [111] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Like Pilots having thousands of Ships and Titans in their inventory... Those pilots had to work up to those ships and titans. They begin their lives in a tiny newbie ship. It can take years to purchase/build then learn to fly something like a titan. But mercenaries are given a warbarge because reasons. Then they require quite literally 0 SP to operate. I mean, I'll still use one. I'll just need to give up some of my 'willing suspension of disbelief' to do so. Rattati, have you ever played EVE? If these warbarges are what we think they are from the things titled "Warbarges" in the past Dust trailers these things are freackin Capital ships, you know how special a capital ship is in EVE? Capitals do not appear out of thin air for capsuleer, and as a private citizen, it actually takes a great amount of work to actually acquire one. Apparently people think Titans grow on trees. Once you board that ship you're in it until it goes boom or you abandon it, the ship can't even dock. It's a huge deal. Of course, if you guys want to go back on lore and make warbarges something like a T1 freighter go ahead, its not like lore is relevant anymore. At least a small freighter is more believable than a damned capital ship. I can PLEX and buy a Titan in 5 seconds. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

GH0ST RECKER DUST University Ivy League 2	Posted - 2015.01.14 07:14:00 - [112] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Like Pilots having thousands of Ships and Titans in their inventory... Those pilots had to work up to those ships and titans. They begin their lives in a tiny newbie ship. It can take years to purchase/build then learn to fly something like a titan. But mercenaries are given a warbarge because reasons. Then they require quite literally 0 SP to operate. I mean, I'll still use one. I'll just need to give up some of my 'willing suspension of disbelief' to do so. Rattati, have you ever played EVE? If these warbarges are what we think they are from the things titled "Warbarges" in the past Dust trailers these things are freackin Capital ships, you know how special a capital ship is in EVE? Capitals do not appear out of thin air for capsuleer, and as a private citizen, it actually takes a great amount of work to actually acquire one. Apparently people think Titans grow on trees. Once you board that ship you're in it until it goes boom or you abandon it, the ship can't even dock. It's a huge deal. Of course, if you guys want to go back on lore and make warbarges something like a T1 freighter go ahead, its not like lore is relevant anymore. At least a small freighter is more believable than a damned capital ship. I can PLEX and buy a Titan in 5 seconds. Wat is eve I still haven't figured it out
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 9214	Posted - 2015.01.14 07:22:00 - [113] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Like Pilots having thousands of Ships and Titans in their inventory... Those pilots had to work up to those ships and titans. They begin their lives in a tiny newbie ship. It can take years to purchase/build then learn to fly something like a titan. But mercenaries are given a warbarge because reasons. Then they require quite literally 0 SP to operate. I mean, I'll still use one. I'll just need to give up some of my 'willing suspension of disbelief' to do so. Rattati, have you ever played EVE? If these warbarges are what we think they are from the things titled "Warbarges" in the past Dust trailers these things are freackin Capital ships, you know how special a capital ship is in EVE? Capitals do not appear out of thin air for capsuleer, and as a private citizen, it actually takes a great amount of work to actually acquire one. Apparently people think Titans grow on trees. Once you board that ship you're in it until it goes boom or you abandon it, the ship can't even dock. It's a huge deal. Of course, if you guys want to go back on lore and make warbarges something like a T1 freighter go ahead, its not like lore is relevant anymore. At least a small freighter is more believable than a damned capital ship. I can PLEX and buy a Titan in 5 seconds. Congratulations, can you pilot it? Can you use it to efficiency? You just bought it. I can have a similar scenario with AUR and Omega Boosters. CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1882	Posted - 2015.01.14 07:23:00 - [114] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I can PLEX and buy a Titan in 5 seconds. This trolls the Kirk. Glorious. Warbarges are already a success in my mind. Also, dev trolling /thread. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Vance Alken Commando Perkone Caldari State 168	Posted - 2015.01.14 07:25:00 - [115] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Like Pilots having thousands of Ships and Titans in their inventory... Those pilots had to work up to those ships and titans. They begin their lives in a tiny newbie ship. It can take years to purchase/build then learn to fly something like a titan. But mercenaries are given a warbarge because reasons. Then they require quite literally 0 SP to operate. I mean, I'll still use one. I'll just need to give up some of my 'willing suspension of disbelief' to do so. Rattati, have you ever played EVE? If these warbarges are what we think they are from the things titled "Warbarges" in the past Dust trailers these things are freackin Capital ships, you know how special a capital ship is in EVE? Capitals do not appear out of thin air for capsuleer, and as a private citizen, it actually takes a great amount of work to actually acquire one. Apparently people think Titans grow on trees. Once you board that ship you're in it until it goes boom or you abandon it, the ship can't even dock. It's a huge deal. Of course, if you guys want to go back on lore and make warbarges something like a T1 freighter go ahead, its not like lore is relevant anymore. At least a small freighter is more believable than a damned capital ship. I can PLEX and buy a Titan in 5 seconds. I think the point is that that Titan still came from someone/somewhere. The only ship you can get for free in Eve is a rookie ship, which is incredibly barebones. Mercs should be starting out and building up similarly. Some kind of very simple equivalent should be your starting warbarge (more like a 'war-shuttle', or perhaps 'war t1 hauler', retrofitted with the sweet blackops stuff that lets it bypass planetary defenses)

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 14733	Posted - 2015.01.14 07:26:00 - [116] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Like Pilots having thousands of Ships and Titans in their inventory... Those pilots had to work up to those ships and titans. They begin their lives in a tiny newbie ship. It can take years to purchase/build then learn to fly something like a titan. But mercenaries are given a warbarge because reasons. Then they require quite literally 0 SP to operate. I mean, I'll still use one. I'll just need to give up some of my 'willing suspension of disbelief' to do so. Rattati, have you ever played EVE? If these warbarges are what we think they are from the things titled "Warbarges" in the past Dust trailers these things are freackin Capital ships, you know how special a capital ship is in EVE? Capitals do not appear out of thin air for capsuleer, and as a private citizen, it actually takes a great amount of work to actually acquire one. Apparently people think Titans grow on trees. Once you board that ship you're in it until it goes boom or you abandon it, the ship can't even dock. It's a huge deal. Of course, if you guys want to go back on lore and make warbarges something like a T1 freighter go ahead, its not like lore is relevant anymore. At least a small freighter is more believable than a damned capital ship. I can PLEX and buy a Titan in 5 seconds. Congratulations, can you pilot it? Can you use it to efficiency? You just bought it. I can have a similar scenario with AUR and Omega Boosters. I think the argument was "can a noob pilot own a Titan", and yes he can "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 9214	Posted - 2015.01.14 07:41:00 - [117] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I think the argument was "can a noob pilot own a Titan", and yes he can Yeah, sure that's part of my argument, where's the rest? CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.
Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 588	Posted - 2015.01.14 08:17:00 - [118] - Quote Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Like Pilots having thousands of Ships and Titans in their inventory... Those pilots had to work up to those ships and titans. They begin their lives in a tiny newbie ship. It can take years to purchase/build then learn to fly something like a titan. But mercenaries are given a warbarge because reasons. Then they require quite literally 0 SP to operate. I mean, I'll still use one. I'll just need to give up some of my 'willing suspension of disbelief' to do so. Rattati, have you ever played EVE? If these warbarges are what we think they are from the things titled "Warbarges" in the past Dust trailers these things are freackin Capital ships, you know how special a capital ship is in EVE? Capitals do not appear out of thin air for capsuleer, and as a private citizen, it actually takes a great amount of work to actually acquire one. Apparently people think Titans grow on trees. Once you board that ship you're in it until it goes boom or you abandon it, the ship can't even dock. It's a huge deal. Of course, if you guys want to go back on lore and make warbarges something like a T1 freighter go ahead, its not like lore is relevant anymore. At least a small freighter is more believable than a damned capital ship. And the crux of the matter boils down to this: Don't make my game more engrossing; it'll mess up the lore. EFFING WRITE NEW LORE FOR IT. FFS IWS did a page back, or are we all skipping it for angsty teenager reasons? sidenote, if your CFC, N3, or PL, yes titans do grow on trees. I don't give a **** about lore, but I would find it more engrossing if getting a Warbarge was a rite of passage. A symbol for "now you are entering the endgame". Corp Warbarges would be mandatory, but personal Warbarges should be an achievement. And if you are in a corp, you should be special for having a Warbarge, similar to how ADS pilots are special.
Pseudogenesis Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1287	Posted - 2015.01.14 08:32:00 - [119] - Quote I think warbarges need to be unlocked in SOME way. Make the barrier to entry incredibly low if you want, doesn't matter; but players need to feel as though they're earning it. As a new player finally saving up 5 million (or however much) ISK to purchase my own warbarge would be a really cool thing to experience. But that's just my opinion, I don't know exactly how that might translate to the NPE. Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
Syeven Reed T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 1161	Posted - 2015.01.14 08:37:00 - [120] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Like Pilots having thousands of Ships and Titans in their inventory... Those pilots had to work up to those ships and titans. They begin their lives in a tiny newbie ship. It can take years to purchase/build then learn to fly something like a titan. But mercenaries are given a warbarge because reasons. Then they require quite literally 0 SP to operate. I mean, I'll still use one. I'll just need to give up some of my 'willing suspension of disbelief' to do so. Rattati, have you ever played EVE? If these warbarges are what we think they are from the things titled "Warbarges" in the past Dust trailers these things are freackin Capital ships, you know how special a capital ship is in EVE? Capitals do not appear out of thin air for capsuleer, and as a private citizen, it actually takes a great amount of work to actually acquire one. Apparently people think Titans grow on trees. Once you board that ship you're in it until it goes boom or you abandon it, the ship can't even dock. It's a huge deal. Of course, if you guys want to go back on lore and make warbarges something like a T1 freighter go ahead, its not like lore is relevant anymore. At least a small freighter is more believable than a damned capital ship. I can PLEX and buy a Titan in 5 seconds. Well its not quite that easy but yeah haha SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED EvE - 21 Day Trial



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