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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.01.13 17:48:00 -
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I just want to know how in the world does every mercenary have his own personal Warbarge.
CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
1354
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Posted - 2015.01.13 17:55:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:I just want to know how in the world does every mercenary have his own personal Warbarge.
We be space-rich Kirk!
Why are all of you so intellectually inept?
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
6601
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Posted - 2015.01.13 17:56:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:I just want to know how in the world does every mercenary have his own personal Warbarge. I am pretending that hundreds of DUST mercs are living in warbarges that they are chip in for. Like giant flying apartment complexes.
That's how I justify it in my head... the idea of each merc having his/her own warbarge is silly.
Just call me Ripple. Ripple Riley.
@Ripley_Riley
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Kevall Longstride
DUST University Ivy League
2215
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Posted - 2015.01.13 18:22:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:I just want to know how in the world does every mercenary have his own personal Warbarge.
You all get a free one to start.
CPM 1 member
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ReGnYuM
Red Star.
3424
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Posted - 2015.01.13 18:28:00 -
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So I just have one question?
Are we going to do this the Eve way or the Carebear way?
Eve:
Warbarges can be destroyed and damaged.
Carebear:
Warbagres glorified guild clubhouses with special bonuses.
From the direct tone of CCP and the make of CPM1 I'am going to side with carebear |
shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
3682
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Posted - 2015.01.13 18:34:00 -
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This also mean new build name! How will it be called? Let's start the game of guess it.
BTW, like always everything seem to be very cool, but we will never know what to expect from it, we only discover it when it came out.
Situational awareness also known as passive scan.
Minmatar omni-merc
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Nomed Deeps
432
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Posted - 2015.01.13 18:41:00 -
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Legitmate feedback and questions keep being covered in garbage posts. Guess that is the norm here.
I cannot be bought, but I can be leased.
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dent 308
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
3183
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Posted - 2015.01.13 18:53:00 -
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Where was this thread 2 years ago when we needed it?
Humphrey Bogart (1899-1957)
I should never have switched from scotch to martinis.
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
5349
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Posted - 2015.01.13 19:03:00 -
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dent 308 wrote:Where was this thread 2 years ago when we needed it?
Imagine how awesome this game would be by now if CCP Rattati was leading it two years ago. o_o
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
9208
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Posted - 2015.01.13 19:32:00 -
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Kevall Longstride wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:I just want to know how in the world does every mercenary have his own personal Warbarge. You all get a free one to start. So just because I become immortal the empires and or corporations all chip in to buy me my own personal warbarge because I'm a special snowflake?
C'mon, get real now.
I like Riley's response. Maybe we all share a warbarge, and we each have all of our rooms.
But ill be honest. This is kinda immersion breaking, but who cares about lore and New Eden anymore. It's easier to think that this game isn't in the same Universe anymore.
CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.
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Stefan Stahl
Seituoda Taskforce Command
904
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Posted - 2015.01.13 19:33:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Please discuss My expectations of post Uprising gameplay: - Click Warbarge-"Give bonus" button - Join large corp for additional bonus - Play like before - Stomp new players harder
As for my contribution to the discussion, please note that I'm taking the pessimistic stance so you get to say why that's not what's happening. |
Lady MDK
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
247
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Posted - 2015.01.13 19:41:00 -
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Maybe we start in stations for academy and return to stations to join pub matches i.e. the barge is docked, gives no bonuses and we clonejump from the quarters in the station.
Then to join facwar or PC we must fly in our own ship to where we want to be in order to play. In pub matches we are of course playing on behalf of NPC corps so they provide the clones we jump into.
Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following.
I don't care so neither should you :)
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STYLIE77
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
399
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Posted - 2015.01.13 20:06:00 -
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Rat, I hope you have spent time with CCP Punkturis to see what Corp Management UI changes she is working on.
Her feedback thread here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=392288
For those of you that don't know she is on a project to simplify the the Corp Management UI in Eve and make it... well... somewhat understandable.
For many of the changes that Rat is proposing here (which are wonderful imo) we will need some work on Dust's Roles.
I am one of the many CEO's that hold an Eve account simply to manage my corp and alliance.
My point is, we will need some Corp Hangers and roles that can help manage these new abilities and items in a corp environment.
Right now on Eve you have to be an Engineer to understand the roles such as Hanger Access, and Hanger Access (Based At)
Corp Hangers, who will have access? New roles - Quartermaster? Or keep it simple with Director/CEO only?
Also... we have a door in our Merc Quarters... make it lead to the Warbarge.
In the past CCP talked about personalized Merc Quarters, if there is any old code laying around... polish that turd and release it!!! =o)
Allow up to 16 guys in there, unlock the staircases, change a few of the interfaces to directly lead to corp functions such as reprocessing.
In this way I can go to Merc Quarters, change into a suit walk back out to Warbarge and show off my Skinweave Assault Suit.
There is all kinds of content that can be added in terms of Merc Quarter and Warbarge environments IMO that the Ps3 can handle, including taking a squad into your Warbarge or Merc Quarters.
http://caughtyouflinching.ytmnd.com/
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Kaze Eyrou
DUST University Ivy League
1723
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Posted - 2015.01.13 20:31:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:I just want to know how in the world does every mercenary have his own personal Warbarge.
CCP Rattati wrote:Mercenaries have taken to the skies in makeshift or stolen Warbarges. I'd like to think my character has a makeshift one. You probably stole yours.
Great post and I'm excited for this Rattati! I also have some of the same concerns as other people such as the passive ISK generation... however, you covered that in your updated edit. I believe that could be a nice incentive, but having that too high might just encourage protostomping in pubs. Basically, it brings back bad memories of the days when all the top corporations had tons of districts with no challengers and used those funds to continuously blow people away in public matches.
"Augmented Ammunition Facility - Primary weapons damage boost": Uh didn't we all agree that removing the old Weaponry skill was a good thing? All I see is that old bonus coming back in disguise. Again, people already addressed their concerns with this as well.
"[img]Hangar[/img]" - Is there supposed to be an image there?
If I think of more, I'll edit later.
CB Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
5830
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Posted - 2015.01.13 20:36:00 -
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I had to write a Guide in Real Life today, so I was not on the Forums much. Will have to respond to this tomorrow.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Beren Hurin
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
2466
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Posted - 2015.01.13 20:42:00 -
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How do you destroy other barges and what can you get from them? |
One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
7168
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Posted - 2015.01.13 20:56:00 -
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With regards to bonus stacking for corps. I understand wanting to encourage people to get involved with corps, and to reward those that do, but I am concerned that those of us who cannot join, or who simply not want to join, will get left behind.
Thunderbolt. verb and noun.
"James thunderbolted in his pants."
"I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
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Godin Thekiller
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
2692
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Posted - 2015.01.13 21:18:00 -
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Kevall Longstride wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:You say weapons, but not turrets, and no suits, modules, or hulls. Why? As I understand it, the weapons are easier to do for the time being.
That just adds to the things that has been thrown to the sidelines for vehicles. The list is just getting longer.
click me
Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
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iKILLu osborne
True Vengeance.
585
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Posted - 2015.01.13 21:49:00 -
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so......excited
AAHHHHHHHH.......nerdgasm
if you shoot me from the redline i will ensure your death will be a swift one
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2015.01.13 22:15:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Kevall Longstride wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:I just want to know how in the world does every mercenary have his own personal Warbarge. You all get a free one to start. So just because I become immortal the empires and or corporations all chip in to buy me my own personal warbarge because I'm a special snowflake? C'mon, get real now. I like Riley's response. Maybe we all share a warbarge, and we each have all of our rooms. But ill be honest. This is kinda immersion breaking, but who cares about lore and New Eden anymore. It's easier to think that this game isn't in the same Universe anymore.
Cost of training and creating immortal soldiers is exuberantly expensive that no one single individual can really afford it; empires invest in it because the costs of feilding a much more massive force to deal with the issue is exhuberantly more expensive.
Case in point 1 pod capsuleer battleship manned with 2,000 people can easily claim superiority over 10-20 fully crewed and highly trained battleships manned up to 15,000 each. Imagine having to pay all those people; pensions; benefits; funerals; replacements when they do get killed let alone the battleship itself was rather expensive.
Immortal soldiers despite our high equipment churn rates have basically annihilating the need to mobilize, train up, refresh, gear up, field test, supply, and infrastructure any ground forces. As one person puts it for every soldier you put on the field you need 12 more people to make sure he can eat and have bullets on the front line. Because immortal soldiers can do more with less; we're streamlined in our efforts to impose security and corporate jockeying. Simply cost savings giving us a war barge and staff is a means of asking for loyalty easily and making us even MORE effective.
And trust me there are plenty of non immortals that want in on that war barge staff; it is lucrative career even if they don't survive it; their families typically live very well for their lifespans.
To put things in relative worths; about 120k isk will retire a family from hard labor and comfortable life style.
CPM 1
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
\\= Prototype Forge Gun=// Unlocked
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
2443
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Posted - 2015.01.13 22:32:00 -
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In-match damage bonuses will do the game more harm than good.
Dust needs some 'uphill climb' for new players to face, imo it's pretty good where we're at. I suppose new players ultimately have to do an internal assessment that would go something like this:
'Ok, i see how this is now....basically i'm going to have to get face-stomped until i can stand up to these guys....is it worth it?'
For new players, the degree of face stomping/'challenge' is balanced against the perceived merits of DUST's end-game gameplay. My intuition says we're pretty close right now to the reasonable/unreasonable uphill-slog-into-.50cals dividing line.
What are warbarges adding to the in-match gameplay that justify turning up the facestomp dial? For me the answer is nothing at all.
editorial grumbling follows:
We've seen a lot of 'around-match' gameplay from CCP lately: missions, salvage, warbarges being two prominent examples.
It's important to distinguish between in-match content and out-of-match content. Ultimately it's only the in-match content that will keep players in the game. The out-of-match content may be entertaining, mildly addictive even, but the quality of the gaming experience is determined in-match.
PSN: RationalSpark
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
2443
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Posted - 2015.01.13 22:34:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:I just want to know how in the world does every mercenary have his own personal Warbarge. Good question. Rattati's arbitrary and immersion-breaking off-the-cuff storytelling just isn't doing it for me.
New Eden deserves more respect than an illogical one-liner, imo.
PSN: RationalSpark
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
3595
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Posted - 2015.01.13 23:26:00 -
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The uprising is over? Does this mean a new build is on the way?
They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank!
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
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iKILLu osborne
True Vengeance.
587
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Posted - 2015.01.13 23:49:00 -
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Kevall Longstride wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:I just want to know how in the world does every mercenary have his own personal Warbarge. You all get a free one to start. from whom?, what for(as in why do we deserve it?, can i sell it for boat load of isk?, wouldn't it be cheaper to make noobs sleep in broom closet?
if you shoot me from the redline i will ensure your death will be a swift one
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Major IMPACT
Titans of Phoenix VP Gaming Alliance
58
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Posted - 2015.01.14 00:34:00 -
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Armory- Store tanks, suits, weapons, etc. with a corp name on it instead of a faction. Can paint also certain colors certain suits.
Still waiting for the tanks to be reintroduced
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
16560
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Posted - 2015.01.14 00:40:00 -
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iKILLu osborne wrote:Kevall Longstride wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:I just want to know how in the world does every mercenary have his own personal Warbarge. You all get a free one to start. from whom?, what for(as in why do we deserve it?, can i sell it for boat load of isk?, wouldn't it be cheaper to make noobs sleep in broom closet?
Who flies it? How do they fly it? Why the **** do they listen to me? What am I going to do with it? Did I steal it? Did the Empire give it to me? Why? Where am I going to keep it? Do I have to feed it? Will my landlord let me keep it on the station?
*"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens Capital Punishment.
3096
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Posted - 2015.01.14 01:10:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:The Uprising is over. Mercenaries have taken to the skies in makeshift or stolen Warbarges. Joseph's head canon:
Stolen Gallente Warbarge that resembles the EVE version of The African Queen. Proudly named The Rat Bastard.
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
1878
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Posted - 2015.01.14 01:37:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:iKILLu osborne wrote:Kevall Longstride wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:I just want to know how in the world does every mercenary have his own personal Warbarge. You all get a free one to start. from whom?, what for(as in why do we deserve it?, can i sell it for boat load of isk?, wouldn't it be cheaper to make noobs sleep in broom closet? Who flies it? How do they fly it? Why the **** do they listen to me? What am I going to do with it? Did I steal it? Did the Empire give it to me? Why? Where am I going to keep it? Do I have to feed it? Will my landlord let me keep it on the station?
Well True, I believe this is largely to lessen the perception that we are 'beneath' capsuleers. To me they kind of make me think of wh40k battle barges. Our methods may be violent but we're one of the least permanently damaging ways to control a planet.
Warbarges are essential to our function in flipping districts as the specialized electronic warfare they provides makes orbital defenses vulnerable and our dropsuits provide a direct connection for hacking when defenses are 'neutral'.
So I imagine much like how people became capsuleers everyone has their own story. Some may have bought their warbarge, others (like paladin Templars) had them given by their empire, some may have made their own, others may have been stolen or had their former crew murdered singlehandedly for possession.
So yeah, it probably has a small crew completely loyal to you for whatever reason (Fear? Devotion? Respect? Profits? Beliefs?). Make your own RP about it, as based on what rattati has said it's practically an open book for RP.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
2444
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Posted - 2015.01.14 01:53:00 -
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Question. Originally the warbarge was thought of as a capital ship. Is it still a capital ship?
PSN: RationalSpark
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
18310
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Posted - 2015.01.14 02:30:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:Question. Originally the warbarge was thought of as a capital ship. Is it still a capital ship?
Likely akin to a Freighter.
CPM 1
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
\\= Prototype Forge Gun=// Unlocked
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