You know if ferros get nerfed then shields will be OP, right?
I have shown time and time again that both have their merits, this "shield UP" thing is pure and utter myth.

The only thing that shields are worse at than armor is HP stacking, and that's where sentinels excel.
Now, consider that sentinels are 1/2 of the current suit meta along with scouts, and you would see why armor suits are common.

How are Heavies and HMGs not on the list?

Suggestions (not cumulative)

* Add 1/4 to 1/2 second spool up time to HMG.
* Invert explosive resistances, such that nades and mass drivers deal more damage.
* Render HMG unwieldy unless ADS such that spin-spraying in CQC is no longer feasible.
* Remove HMG headshot multiplier; reduce damage; reduce range.

It seems that you nerfed complex plates the hardest Rattati. (25/30/35 STD/ADV/PRO)
This really doesn't make sense, their penalty is the highest and they are the least used plates by anything that isn't a sentinel. (Even then, enhanced plates are very appealing).

Might want to normalize the nerf to 25HP per plate?

Armor has no delay in repping.
Armor has rep tools.
Armor has triage hives.
Armor has damage mods on high slots.
And more that I don't mention because it is compensated.

I'm sure a slight nerf to ferros to make balance them with the new armor plates won't make shields OP.

Current Remote Explosives
STD/ADV/PRO:
Activation 5/5/5

Armor Plates
STD/ADV/PRO from 85/110/135 to 60/80/100
Strafe speed penalty of regular plates doubled on scouts

Increased Warbarge time to X from Y minutes for squadbuilding

Transport WP for LAV's

Shields have infinitely stronger BASE recharge, and that recharge can be increased to insane levels with a single module.

Rep tools < Guns - Unless you're a sentinel who has a giant ass HMG, don't expect reps mid battle

Triage hives force you to remain stationary, perfect grenade target (And they're also quite uncommon on the battlefield now-a-days)

Shields have LITERALLY EVERY USEFUL UTILITY MODULE in low slots.
Like, choose anything you would like, literally everything but damage mods you have.
Not to mention that I expect 1-2 damps on Assaults to be the new meta in 1.10, so shield suits will have an easier time.

Seriously, armor tankers use Damage Mods because that's ALL they can really use.

Actually, on that topic, you might notice Cat was a proponent of the ORIGINAL passive scan changes that would have made it viable to put some Precision Enhancers on Medium suits to help them see better, but that one got shouted down, meaning Damage Mods are still the only slot to put in Highs.

Also, shield suits have as much native HP regen as an armor suit gets through the use of THREE Complex Repair modules without fitting a single module at all, and you can easily boost that with a single Energizer and Regulator.

I skilled first into C/1 Assault, and use a fit with Extenders, a single Energizer, and a single Regulator. That enables me to fully regen my primary HP in SECONDS just by ducking out of the line of fire.

Let's also not forget that shield tankers are protesting the idea of Shield Extenders having a strafe penalty while the shield penalty can be fully countered with a SINGLE module, and the armor penalty cannot be countered at all. Kinetic Catalyzers only boost your Sprint speed, so when your Stamina is gone you're left at a crawl until it regenerates.

Back off the anti-armor crusade a little, buddy.

I wish we would get even only one of these.

Again, your repping has no delay, while our takes 5 seconds to start recharging, 3 seconds if you fit a regulator. That means 5 seconds of taking TOTALLY AND LITERALLY 0 DAMAGE, NOT EVEN 1 HP.
My anti-armor crusade is justified and I'm sick of the armor tanking meta.

Sick of shieldtanksthatdontknowhowtofitashieldtanksotheycomplainaboutarmor meta

Seriously, running Caldari Assault I never feel at a disadvantage against an armor suit.

Now, if you want to talk weapons, I think the currently massive damage bonuses on each side need some work. A Combat Rifle will eat an armor tanker like they aren't even trying, and a Scrambler Rifle will do the exact same to a shield tanker.

If anything, I think we need to look at backing down the racial damage bonuses a little.

Seriously, running Caldari Assault I never feel at a disadvantage against an armor suit.

Now, if you want to talk weapons, I think the currently massive damage bonuses on each side need some work. A Combat Rifle will eat an armor tanker like they aren't even trying, and a Scrambler Rifle will do the exact same to a shield tanker.

If anything, I think we need to look at backing down the racial damage bonuses a little.

Community proposed stats requested:
GA LLAV
CA LLAV
Modules

Show me how they are nerfing sentinels and I'll happily call myself a retrad.

PS if you are talking about that nerf to plates I ll laugh at you

I actually forgot to write the HMG nerf, in the form of heat, again.

Removing headshot bonus is actually something we can look at too, but that eliminates skill in heavy vs heavy. So many times am I bested by someone that knows how to aim, don't want to mess with that.

Managing heat is the way to go to reward skill, you want to get that window of opportunity during the animation to get your kill.

Wanna talk about PG and CPU?
Our 54/11 to your 23/8, with the same amount of HP lol, and we even have a penalty. -not comparing to armor plates because quite none uses them outside of heavies and scrub assaults and it's gonna be even worse.
Than Damage mods > all.

EDIT: I often have min logis with their ******* reps on my cal assault farming WP on my kills, no idea of what matches you are playing.

1 Armor HP < 1 Shield HP

Ours doesn't regenerate nearly as fast buddy, and it doesn't get 1100 DPS from HMG's.

Armor hp change is huuuuuuuuge. Major game changer. Doubling strafe penalty on scouts is another major game changer. Armor is officially not better than shields anymore.

Now that armor has been properly nerfed I think it's time, or almost time, to give it proper constant rep. Right now armor repair has a delay. I don't know why no ones talking about it but there is about a 2 second delay after taking damage before armor starts repairing. Removing that will be the perfect thing to bring armor, now ever so slightly UP (maybe not with heavies), into perfect balance with shields.

Sick of shieldtanksthatdontknowhowtofitashieldtanksotheycomplainaboutarmor meta

huh?
I've seen my armor ticking under fire.

And fitting a shield suit as shield makes me substantially weaker for front lining.

As we all can agree, armor is better suited for CQC, which every map forces. At that point I have to brick to get to a good HP for close in fighting. Throwing away my advantage in having really strong regen. Sure base regen is good, but it's nothing to write home about. Better then armor, but still quite meh. You need to mod it to be very good. And I sacrifice that for being viable in CQC.

Which I have to do to take obbys effectively.

They work, mainly thanks to bricking, but pure shield is very much reliant on a playstyle that you can't win matches with.

The armor adjustment should be fine however. It's not a big issue since bricking is a thing, and still will.