Honestly don't see the point of adding KB/M support to a console game just to have it gimped. If it's not gimped then they will lose the people they made the game for. I also find it funny how some people have the nerve to say hey if you're getting beat by KB/M use KB/M... How about you get good with a controller!

CCP put KB/M support in game you will lose the people you are making the game for EVE players have EVE if they can't handle controllers on a CONSOLE game then good riddance!

Never. Please, CCP, never, never, never.

You made a console FPS, not a PC FPS, and you're hoping to sell it and be successful to people who normally play other CONSOLE FPS. Please keep in mind that all the people currently playing this beta are PC gamers first, and probably elitist ones at that!

Do NOT add KB/M support as a control scheme in this game. The only thing it will do is destroy balance.

I think that is very bad idea at all to do any FPS on Console, specially DUST. at least should be 2 versions PC/PS. And im think KBM is a must, i cant play any FPS on joystick... FPS its is a high dynamic game and control in it should be comfortable. i cant say that any controller ( no KBM) can provide comfort at FPS.
So i hope this game will released with KBM support.

Honestly don't see the point of adding KB/M support to a console game just to have it gimped. If it's not gimped then they will lose the people they made the game for. I also find it funny how some people have the nerve to say hey if you're getting beat by KB/M use KB/M... How about you get good with a controller!

CCP put KB/M support in game you will lose the people you are making the game for EVE players have EVE if they can't handle controllers on a CONSOLE game then good riddance!

All I can say for now is that I really can't beta-test the game properly because I spend about 80% of gameplay time fighting DualShock 3 instead of actually playing the game and fighting other people :-)

All I can say for now is that I really can't beta-test the game properly because I spend about 80% of gameplay time fighting DualShock 3 instead of actually playing the game and fighting other people :-)

Also one last thing to keep in mind, anyone running a Fatboy PS3 will not be able to use KBM without the additional purchase of an Eagle Eye. There are only 2 USB ports on the fat ps3 (unless the later models added more, but mine has only two). One of those USB ports has to be a mic, so you could use a keyboard or a mouse but not both. So a good chunk of the players would have to buy a $50-60 converter on top of a new KBM if they don't have one not in use. Not many people will be willing to do that.

The very best of console player will get beat by an average KBM almost everytime. If you don't believe me try it for yourself. Buy a USB controller for your PC (They're pretty cheap probably around $20) and play any PC FPS. Watch how non-competitive you are. Only way both methods of control, controller & KBM, can play on the same level in the same game is by somehow gimping KBM.

To me the easy answer is just don't add KBM support. If it is added one of two things will happen. A) It will be gimped and the KBM user will **** and moan. If you give an inch they will take a mile, people have this misplaced sense of entitlement. B)You will need a KBM to be competitive. New people will join the game and get wrecked by the 10% that have KBM, they will get frustrated and uninstall. Requiring additional accessories for a game is usually a bad idea, and a KBM will be required.

Also one last thing to keep in mind, anyone running a Fatboy PS3 will not be able to use KBM without the additional purchase of an Eagle Eye. There are only 2 USB ports on the fat ps3 (unless the later models added more, but mine has only two). One of those USB ports has to be a mic, so you could use a keyboard or a mouse but not both. So a good chunk of the players would have to buy a $50-60 converter on top of a new KBM if they don't have one not in use. Not many people will be willing to do that.

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Blah blah blah.. You guys are all clearly either PS3 or PC gamers not both.

I've been using the mouse and keyboard to pew pew for like 20 years. And I've been using controllers since they first threw analogues in to consoles with Golden Eye on the N64. There are a LOT of advantages to mouse and keyboard vs controller.. such as the ability to run, jump, turn and fire all at the same time lol. I noticed this myself when I tried to play borderlands for fun on my PC using an xbox controller. The problem with a controller is you can only press so many buttons at a given time.

In other words, your two thumbs (unless you somehow have more) are on the 2 sticks, when your triggers fingers are on the shoulder buttons. If you want to jump, you have to remove one of your thumbs from a stick to hit a jump button. Right? Well on the M/K you just tap jump with your thumb while still having all your fingers on other buttons such as reload, move, look, shoot, talk. Etc. THIS is about the only advantage they have over each other. I myself am more comfortable with a mouse and keyboard when it comes to an FPS scenario, because I find it easier to pinpoint heads and the likes, because I'm rocking a super high DPI gamer mouse. Now on the other hand. Some people truly truly suck with a mouse and keyboard, and yet are extremely fast with a controller and very accurate.

I have seen pro gamers in tournaments using consoles for games such as CoD etc.. and they would most likely wipe the floor with your average mouse and keyboard user and likely stand their ground with a keyboard and mouse pro. When it comes to things such as target acquisition and shooting etc. To say one is vastly superior over the other and going to wipe the floor is a naive and foolish thing. Now if it was Grim on a PC vs Grim on a console. I would most likely destroy my console counter-part with ease.

They are both awesome sauce ways to control a game, you use what you're best at. If someone is great with a controller they are not going to complain that they are being owned by a keyboard and mouse user, and like-wise. Anyone saying otherwise is just an elitist idiot. Good day to you sir.



You're missing an important piece of information. Auto aim. Virtually all console fps have it and gently moves the reticule towards the enemy. This is why console gamers often look and feel really accurate. Dust doesn't have this and therefore no one is hitting the broadside of the barn. Pc gamers usually don't have this on pc games because the mouse is much more accurate. Mouse users are going to absolutely demolish unless the implement so e sort of controller only auto aim feature.

(one thing I will say though, the PC as far as keyboard/mouse and voice chat communications is much better than a console)

The overwhelming amount of community bias here is somewhat silly. CCP will get in KB+M support when they feel like it. Why should it be a priority for them?

In case you haven't really thought about it in the past, a vast majority of people who will play Dust 514 will not be PC gamers, they will be console gamers. Why would CCP waste time attempting to implement and test a feature that won't have that significant of an impact on the game? Additionally, one might entertain the notion that they don't actually want to include mouse and keyboard support at the moment because their player pool is terribly biased. Since the selection has been through Eve at the moment, it's reasonable to assume that more players in the beta are comfortable with the mouse and keyboard than not. Implementing the support would skew their current statistics in a way that is even less representative of the way the game will actually play on release than the current skewing.