I definitely would prefer an accept/reject revive button, as I've said many times.

Though this is better than doing nothing. The way nanite injectors previously worked is arguably a form of abusive gameplay, because it allowed other players to effectively take control of your character.

If every Dust player now has to hit a button to even get picked up or to even have the option to get picked up all of DUST will suffer.

Your Clone doesn't technically belong to you... It belongs to the team as a whole.

When your clone gets picked up off the floor, You didn't loose a clone... therefore your deaths should be -1.


When Mercenaries are no longer pressing a revive button there will be no point in ever fitting a Nanite Injector. Making The "Needle" Obsolete in the game of DUST.

This will hurt the Logi class, Teamwork, Immersion, tactics, gameplay... And clutch games that come down to clone counts(Skirm,Dom).


It screaaaams of it being a giant LAZY fix for an issue we have had since Beta..... Please.... Pleaseee..... Figure out another option.


This fix I fear will do more harm to the whole of the game to help an individual feel better about their K/D.

Its crazy.

Removal of exploitable/griefing mechanic > than retention of lore.

Needlef'ing is an extremely annoying place to find yourself and must be eliminated. It's not the perfect solution and needs iteration but it couldn't be allowed to continue.

Removal of exploitable/griefing mechanic > than retention of lore.

Needlef'ing is an extremely annoying place to find yourself and must be eliminated. It's not the perfect solution and needs iteration but it couldn't be allowed to continue.

We'd like to continue to encourage CCP to change the way deaths are recorded, so being revived does not count against players as a "death", since their clone was not terminated. We'd also like to continue to encourage CCP to implement additional WP for finishing off an incapacitated clone, and a change of the injector mechanic to an accept/reject mechanic so players can decide whether or not to accept a revive if they're under fire or being camped by a griefer.

These are all things on my personal list, at least, and several other CPMs support some or all of these concepts.

I got Needle Spammed just yesterday. Killed, before I could respawn, needle, dead. It happened three times and when the killer got in front of me and I saw that he wasn't moving, the only way out of it was to turn the PS3 off. Getting grinded for kills over and over has nothing to do with "wanting to preserve your KD/R." That is just a very minor thing that I don't think anyone should really care about. Getting Needle Spammed is literally like having a hard lock-up on your system. With that being gone, I cannot complain even if I do have to hit X to Call for Help.

And I can flip the scenario just like you can mate:
"If I want to be raised because I don't need a new suit to help the team, I will ask you for help. Don't just be selfish and wanting to get the WP for raising me in my Scout Uplink suit. Let me come back in the back line so I can call in my Railgun to take out that Blaster Tank."

Basically, the situation is too large in scope to say that not wanting a needle is selfish. Perhaps one of the reasons it is "Call for help" rather than bleed out is that you can technically get needled before the killed by screen pops up. In what happened to me yesterday, someone being fast could keep doing that and low and behold the main problem that was set out to be fixed... wasn't.

I definitely would prefer an accept/reject revive button, as I've said many times.

Though this is better than doing nothing. The way nanite injectors previously worked is arguably a form of abusive gameplay, because it allowed other players to effectively take control of your character.

I think denyrevive is terrible, from all standpoints. Why would a human being ever decline a revive? Also, teasing a logi by having him run over, put himself in danger and then refuse is disrespectful.

If you want to picked up, you ask for it.

Your trying to add the one need for a death (Switching suits) as justification.....

It's not.

There are supply depots in the game and nanohives around. There are options sitting on the map to fix this issue. If you choose an Uplink fast suit... there are consequences.. Like anything in DUST.


Like has been said and should be known... We never had that lag in DUST when your client loads in after you get picked up. CCP put that in this game when they put the "Death screen" They created the lag and the delay allowing needle spamming to become this way.

The Broken abusable feature of todays needle spam was a CCP self created problem.

There aren't many players who have been here for 3 months+ that haven't figured out how to get around perpetual needle spam without exiting the game. Just saying..

I think denyrevive is terrible, from all standpoints. Why would a human being ever decline a revive? Also, teasing a logi by having him run over, put himself in danger and then refuse is disrespectful.

If you want to picked up, you ask for it.

The part I had in quotes was just a strawman, same as saying that is it selfish to not want a needle. Anyone can give any reason for wanting to needle everyone or not wanting to be needled that is "most helpful" to the team. That was what I was getting on about, the view that it is "selfish to not want a needle" when it can be seen just as "selfish" to want to needle someone. Again, when using strawmen or just framing one side as negative and the other as positive.

The scope of the issue is far larger than "selfish", to be honest. I don't see how asking for a needle is all that of a concern. People who would have wanted a needle will ask for it. Those that don't won't get needled. Seems like a situation that works out to me.

I think denyrevive is terrible, from all standpoints. Why would a human being ever decline a revive? Also, teasing a logi by having him run over, put himself in danger and then refuse is disrespectful.

If you want to picked up, you ask for it.

Nice troll dude, i got you figured out at locking blueberries who would try to steal my tank or dropship being is actually me being sefish.

But for those more easily duped, i got a proto minmatar logi and all of my equipment is prototype. I like this change, ends the dirty filthy needle spam, a lot of greifing and i dont have to risk my suit and all of the equipment costs that come with it on someone who didnt want a revive in the first place.

I think denyrevive is terrible, from all standpoints. Why would a human being ever decline a revive? Also, teasing a logi by having him run over, put himself in danger and then refuse is disrespectful.

If you want to picked up, you ask for it.

Your completely ignoring the history of DUST to try and be a CCP apologist.


We have had needles since beta... I have played this game since closed.

Picking someone up with a needle in Chromosome was viable.... Every Assault suit had two equipment slots... Every player had a needle.

Why?

Because you had a camera angle over your incapacitated body and could prepare to defend as you got up...

There was next to 0 delay from being picked up to having full camera updates less then a second from being picked up.


CCP implemented the planetside 2 like "Kill screen".... And with it came MONSTER delays to when you get picked up in the game till when your clients camera comes back on.


This entire Needle spam problem was CREATED by CCP. Everyone had needles in Chromosome and Everyone loved being picked up.

CCP Screwed that over.


Now they are about to put a nail in the coffin on Nanite injectors forever. With a lazy sorry excuse for a fix.

This is the SAME as the vehicle "Locking" Feature they gave us.... It's un acceptable and will hurt the entire game for sake of the individual.

It is the complete opposite to how a Developer of an IP should make an addition. having a feature Focus on the Individual instead of the game as a whole.



This feature will do nothing but obsolete needles and ruin the entire Lore around being an immortal clone soldier and the entire lore ABOUT CLONES for the sake of an easy lazy fix.