Your completely ignoring the history of DUST to try and be a CCP apologist.


We have had needles since beta... I have played this game since closed.

Picking someone up with a needle in Chromosome was viable.... Every Assault suit had two equipment slots... Every player had a needle.

Why?

Because you had a camera angle over your incapacitated body and could prepare to defend as you got up...

There was next to 0 delay from being picked up to having full camera updates less then a second from being picked up.


CCP implemented the planetside 2 like "Kill screen".... And with it came MONSTER delays to when you get picked up in the game till when your clients camera comes back on.


This entire Needle spam problem was CREATED by CCP. Everyone had needles in Chromosome and Everyone loved being picked up.

CCP Screwed that over.


Now they are about to put a nail in the coffin on Nanite injectors forever. With a lazy sorry excuse for a fix.

Or OR how about a death isn't counted until the clone is terminated (like it should be). Now you getting picked up and dropped in 2 seconds won't give you more deaths. I know it's logical, I know it's crazy, but it works.

I think denyrevive is terrible, from all standpoints. Why would a human being ever decline a revive? Also, teasing a logi by having him run over, put himself in danger and then refuse is disrespectful.

If you want to picked up, you ask for it.

I think both sides of the argument can agree that the needle mechanics need to be changed. The following items listed would be the better way of implementing a solid fix:
1 Death is not recorded until clone termination.
2 Death screen is not shown until clone termination.
3 Revived player must accept revival or bleed out.

This allows the revived to still be ready and have an active clear vision of the battlefield and would then have enough situational awareness to know wether to accept or choose death.

The current scheduled fix will aid in the abandonment of the needle as well as*promote* logi slaying.

This is extremely short sighted.

When the only use a needle has in everyday DUST is if a player that goes down presses a button then patiently waits?

revive opportunities won't just be a "Small drop"

There will be literally no reason to run a needle on the average mercenary suit with these changes... Logically it will make no sense for anyone that isn't in direct communication or can only fit this one item...

After a while it will just be an item that no one fits.... It already is nearly there.


Adverse to if it was -1 death.... It would do nothing but add to the game and make needles a legitimate form of gameplay that benefits everyone that plays DUST. And has the added benefit that it actually makes sense.

I've been playing all day today, I've seen scans deployed in 4 matches total (2 of which were by my squad upon request for same). My squad has been using revives with the same efficacy as ever during these matches as well and beyond that I have somewhere in the mid teens when it comes to "blue dots revived".

The Logi need some real love, they needed ti before this change, and they need it after.
Same story with the injector, the major elements of the situation haven't been impacted by this single alteration.



For those keeping score at home I actually agree with this statement.

There are likely better options and more elegant ways to address the situation, there are also far more significant aspects of support, logistics, injectors, revives etc to address than the "request" sub issue.

Any chance we can focus on the big stuff first and revisit this later if it seems necessary once the long standing persistent issues are resolved? I am all for discussion but this honestly seems like more of a distraction than a discussion.
If we revert these changes, and yet still have the many bugs linked to revives they won't be in a solid state.
Maybe I'm alone in this but that seems like a rather high price to pay for the trivial time involved in a single extra push of a button.