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Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution 2623	Posted - 2014.04.22 21:21:00 - [1] - Quote My name is Zatara Rought and I am here to declare my candidacy for CPM1. Who am I? IGÇÖve been playing since January last year. I was introduced to Dust by a friend after talking to him about a front page Reddit post about the battle of Asakai. When I started playing Dust I quickly fell in love with the complexity and the ideas behind it, something which has kept me here ever since. Presently, I run a mercenary corporation called Fatal Absolution. As flawed as PC is, I enjoy it GÇô the ideal of having competitive and meaningful battles is something that really appeals to me. What are my qualifications I believe IGÇÖm qualified for the position because I have extensive experience of Dust. IGÇÖve not been here since closed beta, but IGÇÖve been here a long time GÇô over 15 months now. During that time IGÇÖve spent a large amount of time on Dust (about 60k kills on my main, and more on my alts), and I feel that I have an informed perspective on much of Dust. I believe that I can apply a logical playerGÇÖs view to the problems facing Dust in the future and that I can effectively communicate that to CCP. As an active participant in a number of Dust discussions (not always on the forums!) such as Hans JaegerblitzenGÇÖs Dust Scussion chat on Skype and a few episodes of GimbleBGÇÖs podcast Boots on the Ground such as this, I like to think that I can be an intelligent part of the discussion. If you want to know more, IGÇÖd encourage you to listen to this a podcast GÇô hearing me talk about Dust is probably better than reading this! Why I want to be on the CPM I want to help improve the game. Dust is something IGÇÖm really very passionate about. I spend a lot of time on it GÇô playing it, talking on the forums, talking with friends IGÇÖve made from this game. ItGÇÖs something that pains me when I see a part of it in a bad way GÇô something that IGÇÖd very much like to do my part to address. This can range from the load times for my large contacts list [insert video soonTM documenting what i mean], to my mailbox being really annoying to navigate (i would prefer we could just scroll down and have it automatically open the mail below it instead of needing to close a mail, scroll down and open the next one, doing this 20-30x a day is a pain >.<), to neutral installations being destroyed as WP farms at the beginning of matches, to PC mechanics and beyond. Dust514 needs to improve the sandbox What drew me to dust wasnGÇÖt the polished mechanics of an AAA shooter. What drew me to dust was the scope of the universe and the depth of the fitting and SP system. What kept me around was the social interaction, hope of affecting something, and really, dreaming. In Eve Online the thrill and consequences of choosing how to engage New Eden is truly immersive. The most immersion I've felt in dust has been playing Planetary Conquest, and I'm rather disappointed about how far removed I feel even then. I want to scour and pool creativity to find a way to make dust more immersive in the same way GÇô I myself want Dust to actually feel like it matters. ItGÇÖs a broad goal. ItGÇÖs not something thatGÇÖs going to be achieved easily or quickly but achieving a measure of success in this area would do wonders for making dust more appealing not by conformity, but through fleshing out our flavor. That which makes dust unique. I want to feel like what I do matters. I want to feel myself exist in New Eden, and I want that for you as well. However, I recognise that weGÇÖve got a long way to go on this and certainly some more thought needs to go into the basic mechanics of the bigger picture. This isnGÇÖt a simple topic and I donGÇÖt think thereGÇÖs anything I can say here in particular to persuade you that I have good ideas on this, so I think the best way here is for you to ask me! Ask me about these things, IGÇÖd love to answer. I donGÇÖt think thereGÇÖs much point in detailing [i]all[i] the suggestions I have about current mechanics as fanfest is just around the corner and I imagine there will be a few treats that will change the conversation topic as weGÇÖre moving forward nevertheless I am yours to question. Unfortunately we donGÇÖt know the dates of when these elections are going to happen but IGÇÖd like to I want to make you all aware of my intent to run and expose myself as much as possible. You can contact me through my Dust mail, twitter @ZataraRought, Skype (Zatara.Rought), or any other method that's convenient for you (just let me know). Thank you for your consideration and your support. CEO of FA B3RT>PFBHz>TP>IMP>FA Follow me on twitter Skype Zatara.Rought
DaNizzle4shizle Pradox One Proficiency V. 808	Posted - 2014.04.22 21:38:00 - [2] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: My name is Zatara Rought and I am here to declare my candidacy for CPM1. Who am I? IGÇÖve been playing since January last year. I was introduced to Dust by a friend after talking to him about a front page Reddit post about the battle of Asakai. When I started playing Dust I quickly fell in love with the complexity and the ideas behind it, something which has kept me here ever since. Presently, I run a mercenary corporation called Fatal Absolution. As flawed as PC is, I enjoy it GÇô the idea of having competitive and meaningful battles is something that really appeals to me. What are my qualifications I believe IGÇÖm qualified for the position because I have extensive experience of Dust. IGÇÖve not been here since closed beta, but IGÇÖve been here a long time GÇô over 15 months now. During that time IGÇÖve spent a large amount of time on Dust (about 60k kills on my main, and more on my alts), and I feel that I have an informed perspective on much of Dust. I believe that I can apply a logical playerGÇÖs view to the problems facing Dust in the future and that I can effectively communicate that to CCP. As an active participant in a number of Dust discussions (not always on the forums!) such as Hans JaegerblitzenGÇÖs Dust Scussion chat on Skype and a few episodes of GimbleBGÇÖs podcast Boots on the Ground such as this, I like to think that I can be an intelligent part of the discussion. If you want to know more, IGÇÖd encourage you to listen to this a podcast GÇô hearing me talk about Dust is probably better than reading this! Why I want to be on the CPM I want to help improve the game. Dust is something IGÇÖm really very passionate about. I spend a lot of time on it GÇô playing it, talking on the forums, talking with friends IGÇÖve made from this game. ItGÇÖs something that pains me when I see a part of it in a bad way GÇô something that IGÇÖd very much like to do my part to address. This can range from the load times for my large contacts list [insert video soonTM documenting what i mean], to my mailbox being really annoying to navigate (i would prefer we could just scroll down and have it automatically open the mail below it instead of needing to close a mail, scroll down and open the next one, doing this 20-30x a day is a pain >.<), to neutral installations being destroyed as WP farms at the beginning of matches, to PC mechanics and beyond. Dust514 needs to improve the sandbox What drew me to dust wasnGÇÖt the polished mechanics of an AAA shooter. What drew me to dust was the scope of the universe and the depth of the fitting and SP system. What kept me around was the social interaction, hope of affecting something, and really, dreaming. In Eve Online the thrill and consequences of choosing how to engage New Eden is truly immersive. The most immersion I've felt in dust has been playing Planetary Conquest, and I'm rather disappointed about how far removed I feel even then. I want to scour and pool creativity to find a way to make dust more immersive in the same way GÇô I want Dust to actually feel like it matters. ItGÇÖs a broad goal. ItGÇÖs not something thatGÇÖs going to be achieved easily or quickly but achieving a measure of success in this area would do wonders for making dust more appealing not by conformity, but through fleshing out our flavor. That which makes dust unique. I want to feel like what I do matters. I want to feel myself exist in New Eden, and I want that for you as well. However, I recognise that weGÇÖve got a long way to go on this and certainly some more thought needs to go into the basic mechanics of the bigger picture. This isnGÇÖt a simple topic and I donGÇÖt think thereGÇÖs anything I can say here in particular to persuade you that I have good ideas on this, so I think the best way here is for you to ask me! Ask me about these things, IGÇÖd love to answer. I donGÇÖt think thereGÇÖs much point in detailing all the suggestions I have about current mechanics as fanfest is just around the corner and I imagine there will be a few treats that will change the conversation topic as weGÇÖre moving forward nevertheless I am yours to question. Unfortunately we donGÇÖt know the dates of when these elections are going to happen but IGÇÖd like to I want to make you all aware of my intent to run and expose myself as much as possible. You can contact me through my Dust mail, twitter @ZataraRought, Skype (Zatara.Rought), or any other method that's convenient for you (just let me know). Thank you for your consideration and your support. you just want to be CPM just so you can abuse the knowledge for your corp and alliance. My vote is No. Desire means never quit.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 2098	Posted - 2014.04.22 21:42:00 - [3] - Quote DaNizzle4shizle wrote: you just want to be CPM just so you can abuse the knowledge for your corp and alliance. My vote is No. What evidence do you have to support that charge? Vote as you will, but let's keep to a higher tier of discourse here in the Council's Chamber. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution 2627	Posted - 2014.04.22 22:26:00 - [4] - Quote DaNizzle4shizle wrote: you just want to be CPM just so you can abuse the knowledge for your corp and alliance. My vote is No. What makes you think this is true? CEO of FA B3RT>PFBHz>TP>IMP>FA Follow me on twitter Skype Zatara.Rought
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9634	Posted - 2014.04.22 23:06:00 - [5] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: DaNizzle4shizle wrote: you just want to be CPM just so you can abuse the knowledge for your corp and alliance. My vote is No. What makes you think this is true? Your public image..... but that's something entirely removed from fact or fiction. I look forward to seeing what kind of candidate you turn out to be. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Killar-12 OLDSPICE. Top Men. 2694	Posted - 2014.04.22 23:29:00 - [6] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: DaNizzle4shizle wrote: you just want to be CPM just so you can abuse the knowledge for your corp and alliance. My vote is No. What makes you think this is true? Your public image..... but that's something entirely removed from fact or fiction. I look forward to seeing what kind of candidate you turn out to be. This is sort of where I stand, I've never fought against or with you in PC/in a FW Qsync nor Talked to you, I know you're competent, but I'd love to squad up and plink some reds one time, or if you were on Podside (Please don't bring DNSBlack along though...) How to Leave PC
Appia Nappia 597	Posted - 2014.04.23 00:06:00 - [7] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: DaNizzle4shizle wrote: you just want to be CPM just so you can abuse the knowledge for your corp and alliance. My vote is No. What makes you think this is true? It is clearly true because you waited until you corp joined an alliance with a terrible reputation before you posted. Secretly Appia Vibbia If you can read my signature... I'm on the wrong alt.
Appia Nappia 597	Posted - 2014.04.23 00:09:00 - [8] - Quote Seriously though, the way you posted it seems like you have an unrealistic expectation for what it is like to be on CPM. You're going to be less of someone that shapes the game and more of an advocate for good ideas and a filter for bad one. On that level I do think you'd do a good job of that, but if you think you could accomplish what's in your "sandbox" section, you're certainly mistaken on what the CMP position would be. Secretly Appia Vibbia If you can read my signature... I'm on the wrong alt.
Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution 1597	Posted - 2014.04.23 00:31:00 - [9] - Quote No panty dropper songs? How could the people follow such a man who doesn't appreciate the sexy voices of black guys? The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs. Amarrican to the core.
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution 2636	Posted - 2014.04.23 01:44:00 - [10] - Quote Appia Nappia wrote: Seriously though, the way you posted it seems like you have an unrealistic expectation for what it is like to be on CPM. You're going to be less of someone that shapes the game and more of an advocate for good ideas and a filter for bad one. On that level I do think you'd do a good job of that, but if you think you could accomplish what's in your "sandbox" section, you're certainly mistaken on what the CMP position would be. 'Shaping the game' and being and advocate for good ideas and a filter for bad ones are not mutually exclusive. Do I think i'll be able to implement all the longshot dreams Black Jackal's proffered during my term? No. Do I think it's nevertheless important to share what my own vision is and a small bit of insight into how I approach feedback? Yes. I don't pretend to think I'll be able to implement PVE, but that doesn't mean I won't poke at every opportunity with all the weight being a CPM commands to the Dev's. CEO of FA B3RT>PFBHz>TP>IMP>FA Follow me on twitter Skype Zatara.Rought

Appia Vibbia Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2211	Posted - 2014.04.23 02:34:00 - [11] - Quote Derrith Erador wrote: No panty dropper songs? How could the people follow such a man who doesn't appreciate the sexy voices of black guys? I however support such sounds. As long as they stay away from my private time with my womenz! Derrith! Appia Vibbia for CPM1 AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com AKA Nappia, AKA Mathppia
KenKaniff69 Fatal Absolution 2365	Posted - 2014.04.23 03:25:00 - [12] - Quote Reserved The problem with tanks
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 926	Posted - 2014.04.23 03:44:00 - [13] - Quote Zatara, Glad to see that you've put your hat in the ring for CPM. More candidates that are viable is always the preferable situation and you certainly bring a well known background that will no doubt generate some good discussion and hopefully highlight the pros and cons of your candidacy. One of your biggest strengths and perhaps biggest drawbacks to your CPM run might very well be well known reputation and in-game history. What do you personally see as your biggest personal strengths you can bring to the CPM and what are the traits that might cause the most friction or problems? What would the differences be in Zatara the player vs Zatara the CPM that might surprise folks? Additionally, here are a few questions for you (same as I pose to all candidates): 1) Other than the forums how do you intend to collect and communicate requests, needs, POV of the community? In particular, those outside your corp / alliance. 2) What level of interaction would you like to establish between the CPM and CSM? 3) What are the top 3 short term (next 2mo's) changes you would encourage CCP to make? I'm looking for concrete examples that are realistic to achieve. 4) What are the top 3 mid term (next 6mo's) changes you would encourage CCP to make? 5) In Spring of 2015, when CPM1's term is up, what would you want people to have said about your tenure as a CPM member? 6) Will you be creating a channel for folks to meet and sqd with you during the period before the election? Thank you for your time. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution 2643	Posted - 2014.04.23 19:20:00 - [14] - Quote Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: Zatara, Glad to see that you've put your hat in the ring for CPM. More candidates that are viable is always the preferable situation and you certainly bring a well known background that will no doubt generate some good discussion and hopefully highlight the pros and cons of your candidacy. One of your biggest strengths and perhaps biggest drawbacks to your CPM run might very well be well known reputation and in-game history. What do you personally see as your biggest individual strengths you can bring to the CPM and what are the traits that might cause the most friction or problems? What would the differences be in Zatara the player vs Zatara the CPM that might surprise folks? Additionally, here are a few questions for you (same as I pose to all candidates): 1) Other than the forums how do you intend to collect and communicate requests, needs, POV of the community? In particular, those outside your corp / alliance. 2) What level of interaction would you like to establish between the CPM and CSM? 3) What are the top 3 short term (next 2mo's) changes you would encourage CCP to make? I'm looking for concrete examples that are realistic to achieve. 4) What are the top 3 mid term (next 6mo's) changes you would encourage CCP to make? 5) In Spring of 2015, when CPM1's term is up, what would you want people to have said about your tenure as a CPM member? 6) Will you be creating a channel for folks to meet and sqd with you during the period before the election? Thank you for your time. Thank you Jaysyn. This is finals week for me so I am quite busy, but I promise to craft a response as soon as i'm able. CEO of FA B3RT>PFBHz>TP>IMP>FA Follow me on twitter Skype Zatara.Rought
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 933	Posted - 2014.04.23 19:36:00 - [15] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Thank you Jaysyn. This is finals week for me so I am quite busy, but I promise to craft a response as soon as i'm able. No problem...good luck with finals. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen
Tallen Ellecon 1805	Posted - 2014.04.26 17:39:00 - [16] - Quote I have nothing against you personally, but the actions of you and your corp make me doubt you can put the needs of the community before yourself. Supporter of tiericide, EVE interaction, and a proper NPE SoonGäó514 "No blue tags make Tallen go crazy.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12732	Posted - 2014.04.26 17:43:00 - [17] - Quote Tallen Ellecon wrote: I have nothing against you personally, but the actions of you and your corp make me doubt you can put the needs of the community before yourself. What actions, specifically, are you referring to? You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. EUrobro
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 167	Posted - 2014.04.26 18:12:00 - [18] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Tallen Ellecon wrote: I have nothing against you personally, but the actions of you and your corp make me doubt you can put the needs of the community before yourself. What actions, specifically, are you referring to? Just excuse that post. It's completely unfair and biased to judge someone based on the intense political metasphere going on in PC. It's easy to try to snipe him over it when the rest of the candidates will never get fielded for a PC match or lead/make a decent team. If anything, him being involved at all is +100 over the rest of the fail candidates.
Shadow of War88 0uter.Heaven 233	Posted - 2014.04.26 20:09:00 - [19] - Quote If you could implement 3 hot fixes for PC right now, what would they be? & where would you like to see DUST's competitive setting a year from now? & justice for all
echo47 Minmatar Republic 264	Posted - 2014.04.27 02:44:00 - [20] - Quote What is your stance on pub matches based on gear restrictions? I would rather look bad and win, than look good and lose.

Tallen Ellecon 1818	Posted - 2014.04.27 03:28:00 - [21] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Tallen Ellecon wrote: I have nothing against you personally, but the actions of you and your corp make me doubt you can put the needs of the community before yourself. What actions, specifically, are you referring to? Just excuse that post. It's completely unfair and biased to judge someone based on the intense political metasphere going on in PC. It's easy to try to snipe him over it when the rest of the candidates will never get fielded for a PC match or lead/make a decent team. If anything, him being involved at all is +100 over the rest of the fail candidates. Very true, I wouldn't be mad if Zatara was a CPM, I just have doubts. Supporter of tiericide, EVE interaction, and a proper NPE Soonn++ó514 "No blue tags make Tallen go crazy.
Wolfica Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 641	Posted - 2014.04.27 12:41:00 - [22] - Quote Tallen Ellecon wrote: Very true, I wouldn't be mad if Zatara was a CPM, I just have doubts. Doubts is exactly what you should have for all candidates. Bias that inhibits you from making a decision based off of platform and not petty perceptions that happen to be an 'easy' way to impede and damage someone who genuinely and selflessly wants to volunteer much of his time toward helping the game improve? We need to be better than that. Let platform and not petty perceptions be the reason you choose to vote or not vote for Zatara. Do you even PC bro.... ha I bet you don't. forum warrior lvl .6
dwater Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 56	Posted - 2014.04.27 12:57:00 - [23] - Quote Zatara has proven the dedication and focus to build a competitive corp with players that were overlooked for one reason or another and made everyone that played FA regret it. You can disagree with his political decisions, but barring yourself (or others if you're in a position to do so) from constructively critiquing what he brings to the table is dumb.
Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 1648	Posted - 2014.04.27 13:54:00 - [24] - Quote dwater wrote: Zatara has proven the dedication and focus to build a competitive corp with players that were overlooked for one reason or another and made everyone that played FA regret it. You can disagree with his political decisions, but barring yourself (or others if you're in a position to do so) from constructively critiquing what he brings to the table is dumb. Here here. I don't normally talk well of Zatara, or well, most people, because I see it as butt kissing, which I hate more than anything. But I'm also a firm believer in giving credit where it is due. Zat may be a bit eccentric, and he can be a bit of a handful when he FC's, but I do believe he has good intentions for the game and community, and wants to build a good, lasting game experience for new players and vets alike. And even though you posted no love for panty dropper beats or even a quick taco mention, you have my vote. The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs. Amarrican to the core.
kiarbanor S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance 405	Posted - 2014.04.27 21:26:00 - [25] - Quote Since this is where adults talk, my main question is how do you expect the community to distinguish between Zatara the player and Zatara the CPM? Spero argues that one is not the other, which I still can't comprehend. I have yet to see any example of anything remotely political working like this. For example, the mayor can't convince the citizens that he truly knows how to make good decisions for the community--for them--after he gets caught banging the sheriff's wife. So, please explain to me how you will represent the entire community while continuing to alienate the majority from one of the game modes, which is a poor decision for the community. I don't think it's a secret that the vast majority of the player base is completely against what DNS stands for. I would pose this question to anyone in your position, but none of the other CPM candidates are in DNS--that I know of--and have your same track record. I appreciate any responses. Happy Gaming!!!
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12799	Posted - 2014.04.27 22:39:00 - [26] - Quote Kiarbanor, I have a question for you as well. Why the hate for Zatara the player? The association with DNS? You say that he is 'alienating the majority from one of the game modes'. This is not a problem with Zatara, it's a 'problem' because one group is winning overwhelmingly and he just happens to be a part of that group. What exactly is DNS doing to put everyone off PC apart from winning? If you were to read Zatara's posts, you would see that he's an advocate of changes to PC. AFAIK, he doesn't believe that the current implementation is successful. I'm not sure what he's supported specifically (I don't really stalk the guy) but I'm fairly certain he supports changes to make getting into PC easier such as increasing the size of clone packs so they're a more viable way to win districts. If you're still concerned with his political affiliation, let me link you an old thread about his political intentions and show you some chatlogs. This part of my post is obviously going to be 'political' in nature. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1893643#post1893643 This was a thread in which FA was selling districts. For context, at the time ERA was selling districts at 200 mil each. Zatara did not need to sell the districts at literally half the price to compete - he could simply have undercut ERA's prices. But instead he cut the price drastically. Later, Kane offered to buy the entire stock (either for reselling or for ERA's own uses) but Zatara declined. Why did he do both of these things? Zatara to Kane: [3/3/14 1:04:25 PM] Zatara Rought: We aren't selling districts to NF so they can re sell silly [3/3/14 1:04:35 PM] Zatara Rought: we want more people getting fights in PC [3/3/14 1:04:37 PM] Zatara Rought: :P [3/3/14 1:04:50 PM] Zatara Rought: Lemme know about the PFC job [3/3/14 1:06:01 PM] Kane Spero: Who said anything about reselling [3/3/14 1:06:15 PM] Zatara Rought: We aren't selling districts to NF [03/03/2014 20:07:07] Zatara Rought: an unstated rule of the thread is that I'm combing buyers to make sure they have the people to defend the districtGÇªcan't be a fuggin 22 man corp full of alts that have an average of 2.5k kills [03/03/2014 20:07:23] Zatara Rought: this is to make content Obviously, this didn't turn out well in the end. But the intention was clearly not to be a greedy landlord scrounging for every last ISK and keeping new groups out of PC completely. I'm unsure how familiar you are with recent history in PC but for the benefit of those readers who aren't very familiar, up until the great blue donut that we have at present FA (and Zatara) were part of a group called General Tso's Alliance. This was the only major group to be fighting against DNS at the time - most other groups were either locked up or were quickly evicted. Most, if not all of the Tso's districts were permanently locked with attacks. For our side, the war was effectively lost on the first day. It dragged on for a little while but the conclusion was pretty much certain. It is difficult to fight an enemy which can attack all of your timers (thereby preventing you from counterattacking with district clones) and who has a much greater income than you. So that war was lost. As our last districts fell, however, FA received an offer to join NF/DNS. With our war obviously lost, players in corp burning out, the choice was obvious. Zatara chose to put FA in the alliance. And that's how we ended up in DNS. I may have portrayed DNS as the 'bad guys' here. This is also unfair. The politics are a lot more murky than money grabbing landlords beating up a weaker group of selfless paragons of virtue. People blued up because it was necessary. Before the main war happened there were three strong groups in PC. ERA, Renegade Alliance (AE/NS) and FA/RND. Naturally, fearing the other two groups would team up on them each group sought an alliance. ERA and RA allied and joined DNS to get EVE support, leading to the dominant group of DNS that you see today. Everyone had their own justifiable reasons for doing what they did. The net result is that we have a large and completely dominant alliance which is almost universally hated. It doesn't help that a handful of trash posters inflame the masses calling them 'peasants' and 'pubbies'. There's so much hatred for DNS out there and I honestly don't understand why. The entire alliance is not hell bent on making PC a stagnant mess. It's just turned out that way. There are people wanting to '100% MH' but that's really a pride factor. It's not because they're a bunch of douchebags. People frequently bash on people like Kane as well, due to him being a figurehead. I notice you're also questioning Kane based on his political motivations - but really, are they that heinous? If you look at what he is posting you will see that he too advocates changes to PC. Increases to clone pack size are seen as a crucial change - but IIRC 'political' people within DNS have gone so far as to advocate the removal of passive ISK. Is that really in keeping with this image of DNS being obsessed with keeping their dominance? You say that 'the majority of the playerbase is completely against what DNS stands for'. What is it that you believe DNS stands for? People like Zatara and Kane are not evil overlords. They're decent human beings, who have had to make political decisions due to circumstance. Can you honestly say that most people would not have done similar things in their positions? So I would like to ask you, and anyone else critical of Zatara (and any other DNS candidates, I believe Canari Elphus is also DNS) to discard these ideas that DNS and everyone in it are terrible. It's a shallow prejudice that obscures what these people are trying to do. They are trying to make PC easier to get into, less unbalanced, more active, less of a farmfest, etc. Stop judging people based on their alliance and start judging them based on who they are. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Oh, forums
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 951	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:19:00 - [27] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Kiarbanor, .... Stop judging people based on their alliance and start judging them based on who they are. Arkena, That post and the information in it was very appreciated. This is a good illustrator of why i posted the particular questions for Zatara earlier in this thread...there are clearly strong opinions (good and bad) about Zatara and by extension DNS. As for me...my personal concerns come from hearing Zatara on coms going absolutely overboard when things are getting out of hand on more than one occasion and we've had previous business dealings with him that were very difficult to be frank. I am attempting to see how he comports himself as a candidate and give him a fair shot...the game is important enough to do that. Also, I would like to be clear - I do believe that Zatara really does want to help the game and there is no doubt that some of the actions he's supported have helped part of the community. I can't speak to the actual intent or original design of some of those actions. I would also point out that many folks in the community want to genuinely help the game and have a lot of talent but that doesn't mean that they would make excellent CPM members. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen
Tallen Ellecon 1825	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:29:00 - [28] - Quote I do not distinguish between the player and the person. In the end they come from the same mind and peoples actions in the digital world are no different then those in the real. This is one thing people tend to forget, if you ruin the experience of another player, it's not just some npc that will be respawned, that's a human being that will take that ill experience, go somewhere else, and tell their friends to avoid this game. Just as our kindness can brighten another players day, our selfishness can ruin it. Players shouldn't take most of the blame, it's a sandbox, we're supposed to have a certain freedom, and CCP has allowed this game to make it even more difficult for new players. But there are those who understands the underlying problems, and still choose to exploit it to their gain. That's fine, but if the same people want to also tell me that they're doing it for the greater good..... then there is a disconnect, either they can not comprehend the contradictions between their words and actions, or they are intentionally lying and hope to deceive us. Zatara is not one of those people. FA is not one of those corps. The overall view by most is less of a disdain and more of a dissapointment. "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke Supporter of tiericide, EVE interaction, and a proper NPE SoonGäó514 "No blue tags make Tallen go crazy.
kiarbanor S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance 406	Posted - 2014.04.28 03:37:00 - [29] - Quote Arkena, I appreciate you trying to make an argument for your team member, and I assume friend. I will not go point by point because I'm on an iPad, and I'm just not going to type that much. I have nothing against Zatara or Spero. I've talked to both of them briefly, and they aren't horrible people. However, you never answered my question. How is Zatara going to represent the community when he's made the decisions he's made? You don't have to give me a history lesson; I've been part of numerous conversations where Zatara spoke. You know, "top secret" stuff. I know what Zatara was trying to do. I heard his intentions over chat. However, his actions--believe or not--speak volumes. He and Spero both speak and support adjustments to PC; yet, their actions contradict that by being in the biggest blue donut Dust has ever seen. Not just that, but being part of a blue donut that wants to wipe the entire player base from the map. To me, that is stopping the majority from enjoying a game mode. How can you even begin to argue that? The only people that argue and defend what DNS has done to the game are those in DNS. Everyone else sees it for what it is. This isn't the War Room, though; so, we don't need to get in those arguments. All I'm asking is how the player base can trust Zatara to represent them. From being on comms and listening to him speak, then watching his actions as he disregarded loyalty for the almighty ISK, I'm struggling to see how he can even be considered a legit option. I'm having a hard time distinguishing decisions made by the player compared to future decisions of a person in direct conversations with CCP.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12829	Posted - 2014.04.28 06:21:00 - [30] - Quote kiarbanor wrote: I have nothing against Zatara or Spero. I've talked to both of them briefly, and they aren't horrible people. However, you never answered my question. How is Zatara going to represent the community when he's made the decisions he's made? Why are the decisions he's made so bad? What decisions, exactly, make him unsuitable? Quote: You don't have to give me a history lesson; I've been part of numerous conversations where Zatara spoke. You know, "top secret" stuff. I know what Zatara was trying to do. I heard his intentions over chat. However, his actions--believe or not--speak volumes. He and Spero both speak and support adjustments to PC; yet, their actions contradict that by being in the biggest blue donut Dust has ever seen. Not just that, but being part of a blue donut that wants to wipe the entire player base from the map. To me, that is stopping the majority from enjoying a game mode. How can you even begin to argue that? Again, what actions? FA is not a landholding corp, nor is it feasible to just break away from DNS. You're again making the sweeping generalisation that everyone in DNS wants to 'wipe the entire player base from the map'. If you go to the war room, sure, you'll see some of that sentiment expressed by some trash posters from DNS. But you'll also see people cheering on OH and WTF for bringing good fights and wishing them luck. Quote: The only people that argue and defend what DNS has done to the game are those in DNS. Everyone else sees it for what it is. This isn't the War Room, though; so, we don't need to get in those arguments. All I'm asking is how the player base can trust Zatara to represent them. From being on comms and listening to him speak, then watching his actions as he disregarded loyalty for the almighty ISK, I'm struggling to see how he can even be considered a legit option. I'm having a hard time distinguishing decisions made by the player compared to future decisions of a person in direct conversations with CCP. How exactly has he 'disregarded loyalty for the almighty ISK'? When FA left Tso's, with half their players burning out from fielding almost every timer the alliance had, having effectively been defeated? Can you honestly say that if you were in the same position, primarily wanting to play PC, with your corp mostly beaten, about to get evicted from PC, corp in and then you receive an offer to stay in - would you refuse it? What about that decision was so utterly terrible that it must mean that Zatara is an eminently unsuitable candidate? EDIT: To clarify my intentions with these posts, I am not extolling the virtues of Zatara as a candidate. But I absolutely despise all these judgements of him based off political decisions that 99% of the time people don't actually understand. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Oh, forums

Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution 2662	Posted - 2014.04.28 06:31:00 - [31] - Quote kiarbanor wrote: Arkena, I appreciate you trying to make an argument for your team member, and I assume friend. I will not go point by point because I'm on an iPad, and I'm just not going to type that much. I have nothing against Zatara or Spero. I've talked to both of them briefly, and they aren't horrible people. However, you never answered my question. How is Zatara going to represent the community when he's made the decisions he's made? You don't have to give me a history lesson; I've been part of numerous conversations where Zatara spoke. You know, "top secret" stuff. I know what Zatara was trying to do. I heard his intentions over chat. However, his actions--believe or not--speak volumes. He and Spero both speak and support adjustments to PC; yet, their actions contradict that by being in the biggest blue donut Dust has ever seen. Not just that, but being part of a blue donut that wants to wipe the entire player base from the map. To me, that is stopping the majority from enjoying a game mode. How can you even begin to argue that? The only people that argue and defend what DNS has done to the game are those in DNS. Everyone else sees it for what it is. This isn't the War Room, though; so, we don't need to get in those arguments. All I'm asking is how the player base can trust Zatara to represent them. From being on comms and listening to him speak, then watching his actions as he disregarded loyalty for the almighty ISK, I'm struggling to see how he can even be considered a legit option. I'm having a hard time distinguishing decisions made by the player compared to future decisions of a person in direct conversations with CCP. It saddens me that my candidacy is being tested not on the merits of my knowledge/experience in game, my desire to improve it, my ability to accomplish goals, play devil's advocate with any idea (including my own), ability to disagree amiably, or a wealth of other pertinent traits I personally find important...but rather on whether I can put the game above my corp/alliance. When have I personally ever put DNS above the community? I find assertions that I came to DNS for isk misguided. Where have I ever related that? I haven't taken a paycheck from PC profits during my entire tenure in FA, except for ringing. I did not come to DNS to make isk. Simple as that. Really, it seems your concern boils down to "I'm concerned that Zatara would try to sway PC to his alliance's/corp's advantage." Would you like testimony from people who have known me a long time in game? Maybe character witnesses from real life? What proof would suffice? I supported a nerf to cal logi's (and indeed respecced out of the FOTM callogi at the time into the then UP gal logi), supported a nerf to gal logi's when armor tanking got buffed and they became OP, I supported nerfs to TAC's despite teammates using them, nerfs to nades despite loving them, nerfs to scanners despite using them, and many more nerfs that affected me or my team at the time. About the only thing I regrettably didn't argue the change for (initially) was the melee glitch..which i promptly apologized for. I supported hardener tank nerfs despite boasting arguably the strongest tank core in the game. This is a pattern of putting the game above my ambitions in game. Being in DNS for the last month does not demean my ability to put the needs of this game above all else. I see absolutely no tension in the ideas that you can immensely desire changes to PC to help change the current stymied landscape...while still fighting a game mode aptly called "Planetary Conquest." Do I want changes that will hopefully negatively impact DNS's chances of finishing their goal for 100%? Absolutely. No one has asked me if I support DNS taking 100% of PC. No one has asked if I agree with DNSBlack. All that's being offered thus far is assertions fabricated out of whole cloth. Anyone that knows me, or wants to know me...outside of PC battles and the strain they can be on my immediate patience (looks at Jaysyn's comments) knows or will discover someone who loves dust and would like to bring the experience and other relevant skills accumulated to the table for the betterment of the community. off to bed. o7 CEO of FA B3RT>PFBHz>TP>IMP>FA Follow me on twitter Skype Zatara.Rought
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution 2662	Posted - 2014.04.28 06:35:00 - [32] - Quote Another great question is...of all the corps that locked before the hotfix...who DIDN'T support changes to fix PC locking? Does the same logic not apply then to all the candidates that owned a corp in PC at that time? Are they all to be found wanting because while supporting changes to PC locking...they still locked? I support changes to fix PC...and yet the blue donut isn't glitching or exploiting mechanics like isk duplication in the process. CEO of FA B3RT>PFBHz>TP>IMP>FA Follow me on twitter Skype Zatara.Rought
Stiddlefaxq Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 65	Posted - 2014.04.28 07:23:00 - [33] - Quote Zatara knows how to play the game and has demonstrated this for almost a year now at the game's highest level of competition. As a member and as a CEO. The way he has run his corp shows that he clearly cares for the new player experience. Zatara is the clear first choice if you care about having a competitive game. Our relation has been a bit rocky at times since he left Teamplayers and started his own corp. This is more my fault than his, I got a bit peeved when he tried to undercut us on those districts :D. But when I played along side him nearly every night for over three months, he demonstrated an ability to adapt and analyze that is infrequent in online game play. The only complaint I had, was maybe sometimes he had a bit TOO much to say, but it was always goal oriented and usually quite appropriate. He has undoubtedly taught this style to the many newer players in his corp that he, seeing potential, has recruited. As a logi, he pioneered the role and was a huge part of why we maintained compound dominance as we did those days. If having a working, competitive game is something you want to see, and want to elect someone that can relate those issues, and further the conversation with the community on them, then Zatara is your candidate.
Deep Shallowness Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 11	Posted - 2014.04.28 07:32:00 - [34] - Quote It's really simple Zatara : You are being judged on your current and past actions. DNS'a actions do not make the game better for the community. Placing excessive ISK in the hands of a few allows them influence over others (see proto in pubs). Letting a few have access to a game mode and denying it others through a mechanic you know full well was not intended is fine for a player, but NOT for a CPM. You are in DNS. I does not matter one bit if you never play a single match in PC. Your corps assets, such as ISK and people and being used by DNS. Even if they do nothing their action to not engage DNS, is still an action in DNS's favor. Being part of a group always implies explicit support of their actions. You cannot be in the Ku Klux Klan and expect people to trust it is only because they happen to own the best library in town and you would like to use it. If you are no benefit to DNS and it is no benefit to you then leave. No CPM member should take part in an activity that hurts the people they are supposed to represent, so I do not trust you to represent me. You just said you support changes to PC. Well how about you actually show us that? Right now. Pull out of DNS and stop supporting PC as it is now. Actions not words.
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4501	Posted - 2014.04.28 07:51:00 - [35] - Quote This, is this really real? This is not the election for California new joke mayor or which Wrestler Minnesota is going to vote in next (+1 to those who figure out why I mention these two states in zatara's defense) It's a video game election, and you're saying because of his tags, and selective track record, you will judge him? This is why I have no faith in this community. The only people showing intelligence proves how little they actually have. You're letting the EvE Metasphere dictate how you approach Dust. It's a different Metasphere completely. We're in a tiny region where a corp can only do so much on it's own when it's vastly out numbered by equal skill. But to make a corp to even reach that skill is a feat on it's own, and proof zatara has dedication to this game. A proof that FAR OUT WEIGHTS THE OTHER CANDIDATES. Besides maybe the Dust Uni one. What does it matter if he's in DNS? The situation he was in to make him join is not comparable to any EvE standards to set a precedence to snipe him over it. No one in EvE gets backed into the corner and forced to leave the game and go play pubs with terrible players all day. Do you guys understand how mind numbing it is playing pubs for competitive players? He kept content for his guys the best way he could, and you can ask nothing more from someone whose leading you. How you can stand running for CPM, Zatara, I will never know. You're a saint. It will take some time before people see past your tags and into your heart, but when they do, you'll see votes flying in. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 3651	Posted - 2014.04.28 07:57:00 - [36] - Quote ugh Sir Hadah for CPM
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 952	Posted - 2014.04.28 08:33:00 - [37] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: This, is this really real? This is not the election for California new joke mayor or which Wrestler Minnesota is going to vote in next (+1 to those who figure out why I mention these two states in zatara's defense) It's a video game election, and you're saying because of his tags, and selective track record, you will judge him? This is why I have no faith in this community. The only people showing intelligence proves how little they actually have. You're letting the EvE Metasphere dictate how you approach Dust. It's a different Metasphere completely. We're in a tiny region where a corp can only do so much on it's own when it's vastly out numbered by equal skill. But to make a corp to even reach that skill is a feat on it's own, and proof zatara has dedication to this game. A proof that FAR OUT WEIGHTS THE OTHER CANDIDATES. Besides maybe the Dust Uni one. What does it matter if he's in DNS? The situation he was in to make him join is not comparable to any EvE standards to set a precedence to snipe him over it. No one in EvE gets backed into the corner and forced to leave the game and go play pubs with terrible players all day. Do you guys understand how mind numbing it is playing pubs for competitive players? He kept content for his guys the best way he could, and you can ask nothing more from someone whose leading you. How you can stand running for CPM, Zatara, I will never know. You're a saint. It will take some time before people see past your tags and into your heart, but when they do, you'll see votes flying in. SoTa, I speak for no one but myself on this - tags matter far less than the individual and on that you are 100% correct. That also doesn't mean that folks should totally ignore that based on their points of view. I don't think anyone can doubt Zatara's individual skill and understanding of Dust. As you pointed out rightly so, FA accomplished more than the majority of Dust corps every have. Again, there are many other factors in play other than that and simple alliance tags. Anyway...my current opinions aren't actually based on anything he may or may not have done with DNS. I've said more than once on the forums that the decision to join with Spero (pre-DNS) was a purely internal FA matter and that was for them to deal with. I do think publicly letting folks know where they stand on the things that DNS Black, head of the DNS Alliance, openly and often touted and what their individual actions actions might be in response is probably a good thing for any candidate to do based on the community reaction. Lastly, in reference to the comment about potentially being forced to go down to the minors so to speak in EVE...that happens in that game as well. Lots of folks that used to be in NulSec aren't anymore because of that very thing. The problem in Dust is that there are simply less viable options in this regard than Eve. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen
Archer Yorcot S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance 31	Posted - 2014.04.28 12:57:00 - [38] - Quote Deep Shallowness wrote: It's really simple Zatara : You are being judged on your current and past actions. DNS'a actions do not make the game better for the community. Placing excessive ISK in the hands of a few allows them influence over others (see proto in pubs). Letting a few have access to a game mode and denying it others through a mechanic you know full well was not intended is fine for a player, but NOT for a CPM. You are in DNS. I does not matter one bit if you never play a single match in PC. Your corps assets, such as ISK and people and being used by DNS. Even if they do nothing their action to not engage DNS, is still an action in DNS's favor. Being part of a group always implies explicit support of their actions. You cannot be in the Ku Klux Klan and expect people to trust it is only because they happen to own the best library in town and you would like to use it. If you are no benefit to DNS and it is no benefit to you then leave. No CPM member should take part in an activity that hurts the people they are supposed to represent, so I do not trust you to represent me. You just said you support changes to PC. Well how about you actually show us that? Right now. Pull out of DNS and stop supporting PC as it is now. Actions not words. Well said. People are judging Zatara by his actions, and his actions have left his credibility in ruins. Same with Sparo. Look how their actions have helped devastate the NPE and wall off an entire game mode by virtue of exploiting a design oversight. Using free ISK to proto stomp 24/7 has driven hordes of new players away from the game. He has willfully and deliberately chosen to ally with DNSBlack, a man whose vision for Dust is predicated on monopolizing Molden Heath. In doing so, he has provided resources, leadership, and support to further this agenda. How is that a positive development for the community? Why wouldn't voters judge him negatively for doing that? I don't think anyone here disputes Zatara's passion for the game, but his credibility is shot. Vote for someone else. This forum signature is OP.
Killar-12 OLDSPICE. Top Men. 2724	Posted - 2014.04.28 13:21:00 - [39] - Quote Will you campaign for a nade buff? How to Leave PC
kiarbanor S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance 409	Posted - 2014.04.28 14:34:00 - [40] - Quote Ah, since Zatara has now joined the conversation, I will now address him directly. Nothing against you, Arkena. And Sota, IGÇÖll respond to you in the War Room because I do not want to sidetrack ZataraGÇÖs campaign thread. So, Zatara, letGÇÖs have a cordial, intelligent conversation about my points and yours. I will go directly off your response, point by point. First, it shouldnGÇÖt surprise you that your candidacy will be judged by those you associate with. It shouldnGÇÖt surprise anyone. This is the way the world works. You might not agree with itGÇöI certainly donGÇÖtGÇöbut itGÇÖs the simple truth. The majority will see Fatal Absolution and DNS next to your name, and they will immediately have preconceived ideas on who you are and what youGÇÖre about. If you want to enter the political realmsGÇöeven in a video gameGÇöyou have to understand that. As for when have you put DNS ahead of the community? Well, letGÇÖs see. I guess every second that youGÇÖre part of DNS and doing what youGÇÖre doing in PC, youGÇÖre putting DNS ahead of the community. The majorityGÇöthis is how I will reference the 98% of the communityGÇödo not agree with anything DNS stands for or is trying to accomplish. All you have to do is spend 5 seconds in the forums to realize that. So, by continuing to align yourself with DNS and its objectives, you are alienating the majority, which you now hope to represent. I will apologize for the isk comment; it was intended to get a response more than what I truly believe. My belief is that FA was put against the ropes and held over the cliff. You made the best judgment call for your people, in order to guarantee their survival. Some will say this is honorable. My belief is that itGÇÖs weakness. But this still isnGÇÖt the issue. IGÇÖm going to skip down to this before I get to my main point, though. You said, GÇ£No one has asked me if I support DNS taking 100% of PC.GÇ¥ Zatara, no one needs to ask you that question. You are living your own answer. By remaining part of DNS and watching as the majority are turned away from one of the game modes, when you have the power to do something, your actions are your answer. You might not agree with taking over 100% of PC, but your GÇ£silence of actionsGÇ¥ speaks for you. Now I can get to my main point. I was trying to give you a forum in which to answer and convince the community that you deserve their vote, not hide behind a thought process of GÇ£my in-game actions shouldnGÇÖt dictate how people perceive me.GÇ¥ I have nothing against you, but you are na+»ve to think that will happen. Our actions, and the actions of those we associate with, dictate our overall perception. If FA proto stomps in pub matchesGÇöeven if youGÇÖre not thereGÇöit will have a negative impact on you. The reason I wonGÇÖt vote for you is pretty simple: I was in a chat room when you were discussing our next steps (TsoGÇÖs next steps) after the fix to locking. Right out of your mouth came, GÇ£The last thing I want is to be part of another blue donut,GÇ¥ and, GÇ£we do not want to take over all the districts or kick anyone out of PC. 60 districts, between everyone in our alliance, are the most we want.GÇ¥ Do you remember saying this? I do. Others do. Then, when the pressure was put on, what did you do? You joined the blue donut (justify it all you want) and are currently attempting to kick every single person out of PC except DNS. Because of this, you are a liar. You canGÇÖt be trusted. So, please tell me again how youGÇÖre going to represent the entire community and earn back trust?

Moorian Flav 224	Posted - 2014.04.28 14:38:00 - [41] - Quote Quote: Stop judging people based on their alliance and start judging them based on who they are. I think seeing the alliance a player is in and how they got into their alliance speaks a lot toward their character (who they are). I don't troll; I tell the truth. I'm also known as "The ANTI-Propaganda Machine".
Ridire Greine 383	Posted - 2014.04.28 14:45:00 - [42] - Quote Moorian Flav wrote: I think seeing the alliance a player is in and how they got into their alliance speaks a lot toward their character (who they are). The decision to join the alliance was a decision made by the whole corp, not just Zatara. We had a corp meeting and Zatara gave us the info, from there the group as a whole made a decision to move. Zatara just gave us the details, we made the decision. You can't blame Zatara for listening to his players and following through on their decision, in fact, is that not a good trait to have in a CPM Candidate? "Jolly cooperation" Knight Solaire CEO. Farmer. Pubstomper. For those that can't figure it out. - Knight Soiaire
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 2173	Posted - 2014.04.28 15:13:00 - [43] - Quote Some questions and concerns about Zatara may be valid, others, I don't think are so valid. I haven't decided who I'm voting for yet (other then myself, of course), but I urge people not to rush to conclusions. I don't feel being in the dominant landholding alliance is necessarily a capital crime for a CPM candidate. While exploits have been a problem for a pretty large percentage of the PC playerbase, largely speaking, the fault is CCP's failure to create a good game mode, and failure to police those individuals exploiting the system. If the game is in such a way that allows one to take 100% of it, that's not the player's fault for doing it. Does everyone here expect CPM members to pull their punches in-game? Planetary Conquest is part of the game, and by it's very definition, you're kinda supposed to try and kick people out of it. I mean, I'm big on PFC, so you know, sometimes I can be a big carebear about getting people into PC and having fun. But it's hard to blame someone for playing the game well. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Archer Yorcot S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance 33	Posted - 2014.04.28 15:41:00 - [44] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Some questions and concerns about Zatara may be valid, others, I don't think are so valid. I haven't decided who I'm voting for yet (other then myself, of course), but I urge people not to rush to conclusions. I don't feel being in the dominant landholding alliance is necessarily a capital crime for a CPM candidate. While exploits have been a problem for a pretty large percentage of the PC playerbase, largely speaking, the fault is CCP's failure to create a good game mode, and failure to police those individuals exploiting the system. If the game is in such a way that allows one to take 100% of it, that's not the player's fault for doing it. Does everyone here expect CPM members to pull their punches in-game? Planetary Conquest is part of the game, and by it's very definition, you're kinda supposed to try and kick people out of it. I mean, I'm big on PFC, so you know, sometimes I can be a big carebear about getting people into PC and having fun. But it's hard to blame someone for playing the game well. No one is blaming Zatara for playing the game "well." But his assertion that his in-game conduct should have no bearing on his candidacy is fundamentally absurd. His in game conduct is directly responsible for alienating new players, indulging in game breaking exploits, and enabling an alliance which detrimental to the game's development. This forum signature is OP.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 2175	Posted - 2014.04.28 15:51:00 - [45] - Quote Archer, I went a bit more into my thoughts on my own thread in this board, where kiarbanor asked me some additional questions. Rather than retype or restate, do you mind if I direct you towards that post? https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2095857#post2095857 I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Archer Yorcot S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance 34	Posted - 2014.04.28 16:31:00 - [46] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Archer, I went a bit more into my thoughts on my own thread in this board, where kiarbanor asked me some additional questions. Rather than retype or restate, do you mind if I direct you towards that post? https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2095857#post2095857 +1 for an articulate and rational response Soraya. Thank you. However, Zatara's actions, his leadership, and his associations have directly and negatively impacted Dust's current state of play and its future in the New Eden universe. These are not the actions of someone who is merely roleplaying within the parameters of the Molden Heath sandbox. These are the actions of someone who has made the Dust experience worse for the community as whole, and then insists that we should turn a blind eye when it comes time to vote. Zatara may be a fantastic CEO who can assure his corporation's survival and prosperity. That's fine. He may be a passionate and dedicated player. That's great, no problem there. But I see nothing in his conduct to convince me that he will put the needs of the community above his personal ambitions, his corporation's holdings, or the political expediency of his alliance. I vote no. This forum signature is OP.
Killar-12 OLDSPICE. Top Men. 2725	Posted - 2014.04.28 16:32:00 - [47] - Quote Archer Yorcot wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Archer, I went a bit more into my thoughts on my own thread in this board, where kiarbanor asked me some additional questions. Rather than retype or restate, do you mind if I direct you towards that post? https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2095857#post2095857 +1 for an articulate and rational response Soraya. Thank you. However, Zatara's actions, his leadership, and his associations have directly and negatively impacted Dust's current state of play and its future in the New Eden universe. These are not the actions of someone who is merely roleplaying within the parameters of the Molden Heath sandbox. These are the actions of someone who has made the Dust experience worse for the community as whole, and then insists that we should turn a blind eye when it comes time to vote. Zatara may be a fantastic CEO who can assure his corporation's survival and prosperity. That's fine. He may be a passionate and dedicated player. That's great, no problem there. But I see nothing in his conduct to convince me that he will put the needs of the community above his personal ambitions, his corporation's holdings, or the political expediency of his alliance. I vote no. A legally bound and signed contract might. How to Leave PC
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3536	Posted - 2014.04.28 18:09:00 - [48] - Quote I think Zatara would bring an interesting element to the CPM. He's played the game at it's highest levels and succeeded. He was a FC for Team Players in the most impressive run of PC seen to date. He started a corp and quickly turned it into one of the most feared corps in Dust 514. I've spent quite a bit of time talking to Zatara and I believe he is genuinely interested in the long term success of this game. I don't see Zatara using the CPM as a platform for benefiting his corporation or his allies. Zatara is an excellent candidate and I'll have him at or near the top of my ballot. Level 3 Forum Warrior
kiarbanor S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance 411	Posted - 2014.04.28 18:46:00 - [49] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: I think Zatara would bring an interesting element to the CPM. He's played the game at it's highest levels and succeeded. He was a FC for Team Players in the most impressive run of PC seen to date. He started a corp and quickly turned it into one of the most feared corps in Dust 514. I've spent quite a bit of time talking to Zatara and I believe he is genuinely interested in the long term success of this game. I don't see Zatara using the CPM as a platform for benefiting his corporation or his allies. Zatara is an excellent candidate and I'll have him at or near the top of my ballot. I respect your opinion on this, Thor. And it means a lot that you're able to have this perspective after the conversations I know we both heard. +1
waters104 Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 1	Posted - 2014.04.28 21:14:00 - [50] - Quote Put it this way, " dont judge a book from its front cover" at least take intitave and open it lolz

waters104 Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 2	Posted - 2014.04.28 21:52:00 - [51] - Quote Great guy he gives everyone chances ^^ i learn some stuff from him ^^ good teacher Shoot for the stars.....not the ground, i have dreams do you?
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4558	Posted - 2014.04.28 23:16:00 - [52] - Quote Archer Yorcot wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Some questions and concerns about Zatara may be valid, others, I don't think are so valid. I haven't decided who I'm voting for yet (other then myself, of course), but I urge people not to rush to conclusions. I don't feel being in the dominant landholding alliance is necessarily a capital crime for a CPM candidate. While exploits have been a problem for a pretty large percentage of the PC playerbase, largely speaking, the fault is CCP's failure to create a good game mode, and failure to police those individuals exploiting the system. If the game is in such a way that allows one to take 100% of it, that's not the player's fault for doing it. Does everyone here expect CPM members to pull their punches in-game? Planetary Conquest is part of the game, and by it's very definition, you're kinda supposed to try and kick people out of it. I mean, I'm big on PFC, so you know, sometimes I can be a big carebear about getting people into PC and having fun. But it's hard to blame someone for playing the game well. No one is blaming Zatara for playing the game "well." But his assertion that his in-game conduct should have no bearing on his candidacy is fundamentally absurd. His in game conduct is directly responsible for alienating new players, indulging in game breaking exploits, and enabling an alliance which detrimental to the game's development. You hold one point that is true, and can't back it up in regards to Zatara. And that is that you can judge him on choices he's made, however, you're ignoring how he runs his corporation. Are you saying, that by allowing his guys to make the decision to what they've done, that Zatara should take the fall as a person? In this regard, him giving his guys the option of what path they will be fighting on, was the choice that we wish CCP would give us. This man, has shown that he will listen to you, help you improve your ideas, and then implement them. FA is the proof guys, no one else in this entire game has the commitment to do what he did and make the choices he has. He heard his men out, and made the best moves for them. Even district locking was so that he could keep enough clones so he wouldn't be forced to clone pack - everyone is getting very frustrated with Clone Packs, and many corps have completely burnt out using them - so he did what the cool thing was to do back then, because he had to for his guys. As a corp leader, Dust is not his concern, but as CPM, it would be, you would see a whole new side of him reaching out to the NPE. This would be a positive move that would help grow the trust between community and CPM. I doubt there are few who take this game as seriously as Zatara. But more then that, he would be a person to break down walls this community has set in itself, such as vet vs casual. He would also help fix the transparency issue between CPM and Community - not the leakage of NDA, but how well the communication link works. IE. you can expect CPM to reply as best they can to all concerns Zatara, offers a lot as CPM. To both the community and game mechanics. I implore those judging him on selective track records - ask yourselves - "If I had a competitive team loyal to me, looking up to me to make the right decisions, what would I do for them?" Then ask if it's alright to judge him based on what he thought was right. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
kiarbanor S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance 414	Posted - 2014.04.29 00:03:00 - [53] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Archer Yorcot wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Some questions and concerns about Zatara may be valid, others, I don't think are so valid. I haven't decided who I'm voting for yet (other then myself, of course), but I urge people not to rush to conclusions. I don't feel being in the dominant landholding alliance is necessarily a capital crime for a CPM candidate. While exploits have been a problem for a pretty large percentage of the PC playerbase, largely speaking, the fault is CCP's failure to create a good game mode, and failure to police those individuals exploiting the system. If the game is in such a way that allows one to take 100% of it, that's not the player's fault for doing it. Does everyone here expect CPM members to pull their punches in-game? Planetary Conquest is part of the game, and by it's very definition, you're kinda supposed to try and kick people out of it. I mean, I'm big on PFC, so you know, sometimes I can be a big carebear about getting people into PC and having fun. But it's hard to blame someone for playing the game well. No one is blaming Zatara for playing the game "well." But his assertion that his in-game conduct should have no bearing on his candidacy is fundamentally absurd. His in game conduct is directly responsible for alienating new players, indulging in game breaking exploits, and enabling an alliance which detrimental to the game's development. You hold one point that is true, and can't back it up in regards to Zatara. And that is that you can judge him on choices he's made, however, you're ignoring how he runs his corporation. Are you saying, that by allowing his guys to make the decision to what they've done, that Zatara should take the fall as a person? In this regard, him giving his guys the option of what path they will be fighting on, was the choice that we wish CCP would give us. This man, has shown that he will listen to you, help you improve your ideas, and then implement them. FA is the proof guys, no one else in this entire game has the commitment to do what he did and make the choices he has. He heard his men out, and made the best moves for them. Even district locking was so that he could keep enough clones so he wouldn't be forced to clone pack - everyone is getting very frustrated with Clone Packs, and many corps have completely burnt out using them - so he did what the cool thing was to do back then, because he had to for his guys. As a corp leader, Dust is not his concern, but as CPM, it would be, you would see a whole new side of him reaching out to the NPE. This would be a positive move that would help grow the trust between community and CPM. I doubt there are few who take this game as seriously as Zatara. But more then that, he would be a person to break down walls this community has set in itself, such as vet vs casual. He would also help fix the transparency issue between CPM and Community - not the leakage of NDA, but how well the communication link works. IE. you can expect CPM to reply as best they can to all concerns Zatara, offers a lot as CPM. To both the community and game mechanics. I implore those judging him on selective track records - ask yourselves - "If I had a competitive team loyal to me, looking up to me to make the right decisions, what would I do for them?" Then ask if it's alright to judge him based on what he thought was right. So, your argument is that since he did whatever possible for his corporation--no matter the outcome to the rest of the community--he should be commended? And this is because he let his corp members voice their concerns and ultimately make the call? You believe this translates to him listening to the community and making the best decisions for all of us? I'm trying to simplify this; so, please correct me if I simplified it too much.
waters104 Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 2	Posted - 2014.04.29 00:06:00 - [54] - Quote Lolz did you ever go under his command? Lolz Shoot for the stars.....not the ground, i have dreams do you?
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3720	Posted - 2014.04.29 01:04:00 - [55] - Quote It's no great secret that I hate the majority of you... people.... on principle alone, so I'll just say this. Zatara is attempting to throw you guys a bone. I know how he thinks and he really does want improvement for the game at large, not just for his own personal sandbox. He wants large scale fights where Tso's can throw their legions upon legions of fodder at their enemies and have "gud fights". He likes the idea of territories being split and chaotic. The blue donut isn't his decision, but he's backing it because reasons. If you vote for someone like him, you will get experienced and educated representation that falls in line with what you guys want. If you vote for someone like me, I really will just completely screw you over because I legitimately do not think any of you deserve to breathe the same air as me. Understand the difference between someone who is trying to help you, and someone who actually does want to hurt you. I'll tell you right now, the flag they carry doesn't tell you that difference.
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 7181	Posted - 2014.04.29 01:34:00 - [56] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: If you vote for someone like me, I really will just completely screw you over because I legitimately do not think any of you deserve to breathe the same air as me. Oh Himiko.
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4579	Posted - 2014.04.29 03:25:00 - [57] - Quote kiarbanor wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Archer Yorcot wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Some questions and concerns about Zatara may be valid, others, I don't think are so valid. I haven't decided who I'm voting for yet (other then myself, of course), but I urge people not to rush to conclusions. I don't feel being in the dominant landholding alliance is necessarily a capital crime for a CPM candidate. While exploits have been a problem for a pretty large percentage of the PC playerbase, largely speaking, the fault is CCP's failure to create a good game mode, and failure to police those individuals exploiting the system. If the game is in such a way that allows one to take 100% of it, that's not the player's fault for doing it. Does everyone here expect CPM members to pull their punches in-game? Planetary Conquest is part of the game, and by it's very definition, you're kinda supposed to try and kick people out of it. I mean, I'm big on PFC, so you know, sometimes I can be a big carebear about getting people into PC and having fun. But it's hard to blame someone for playing the game well. No one is blaming Zatara for playing the game "well." But his assertion that his in-game conduct should have no bearing on his candidacy is fundamentally absurd. His in game conduct is directly responsible for alienating new players, indulging in game breaking exploits, and enabling an alliance which detrimental to the game's development. You hold one point that is true, and can't back it up in regards to Zatara. And that is that you can judge him on choices he's made, however, you're ignoring how he runs his corporation. Are you saying, that by allowing his guys to make the decision to what they've done, that Zatara should take the fall as a person? In this regard, him giving his guys the option of what path they will be fighting on, was the choice that we wish CCP would give us. This man, has shown that he will listen to you, help you improve your ideas, and then implement them. FA is the proof guys, no one else in this entire game has the commitment to do what he did and make the choices he has. He heard his men out, and made the best moves for them. Even district locking was so that he could keep enough clones so he wouldn't be forced to clone pack - everyone is getting very frustrated with Clone Packs, and many corps have completely burnt out using them - so he did what the cool thing was to do back then, because he had to for his guys. As a corp leader, Dust is not his concern, but as CPM, it would be, you would see a whole new side of him reaching out to the NPE. This would be a positive move that would help grow the trust between community and CPM. I doubt there are few who take this game as seriously as Zatara. But more then that, he would be a person to break down walls this community has set in itself, such as vet vs casual. He would also help fix the transparency issue between CPM and Community - not the leakage of NDA, but how well the communication link works. IE. you can expect CPM to reply as best they can to all concerns Zatara, offers a lot as CPM. To both the community and game mechanics. I implore those judging him on selective track records - ask yourselves - "If I had a competitive team loyal to me, looking up to me to make the right decisions, what would I do for them?" Then ask if it's alright to judge him based on what he thought was right. So, your argument is that since he did whatever possible for his corporation--no matter the outcome to the rest of the community--he should be commended? And this is because he let his corp members voice their concerns and ultimately make the call? You believe this translates to him listening to the community and making the best decisions for all of us? I'm trying to simplify this; so, please correct me if I simplified it too much. Yes, i am, because it's that simple. He did what he could to help his guys. What would he do to help this game? Think about the commitment he's shown to what his goals are - now he's saying he wants to be an effective CPM - his track record shows when he sets out to do something he accomplishes it. I can't see how someone who looks after people could be negative on CPM. If you can find a single FA to honestly speak bad of what he's done with FA I'd be surprised. i trust in his commitment. He's shown it to me first hand. And I hope you will all give him a chance to prove himself. I'm sure after Fanfest Zatara will really start to show his stuff. For now, I hope I help bring light to his better traits and his situation. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Tallen Ellecon 1832	Posted - 2014.04.29 05:30:00 - [58] - Quote I guess in the end I don't care about what Zatara wants to do, or what he says he'll do, I care about what he will do. His actions may make him a good leader to those he follows, shown by the vast amount of support. I'm not looking for a leader in a CPM, I'm looking for a representative who truly the games survival and community first. Some people can't overlook certain harmful actions, even if they were done with good intentions. Supporter of tiericide, EVE interaction, and a proper NPE SoonGäó514 "No blue tags make Tallen go crazy.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12869	Posted - 2014.04.29 06:18:00 - [59] - Quote Tallen Ellecon wrote: Some people can't overlook certain harmful actions, even if they were done with good intentions. What actions, specifically, are 'harmful'? You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Oh, forums
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 1620	Posted - 2014.04.29 14:26:00 - [60] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: It's no great secret that I hate the majority of you... people.... on principle alone, so I'll just say this. Zatara is attempting to throw you guys a bone. I know how he thinks and he really does want improvement for the game at large, not just for his own personal sandbox. He wants large scale fights where Tso's can throw their legions upon legions of fodder at their enemies and have "gud fights". He likes the idea of territories being split and chaotic. The blue donut isn't his decision, but he's backing it because reasons. If you vote for someone like him, you will get experienced and educated representation that falls in line with what you guys want. If you vote for someone like me, I really will just completely screw you over because I legitimately do not think any of you deserve to breathe the same air as me. Understand the difference between someone who is trying to help you, and someone who actually does want to hurt you. I'll tell you right now, the flag they carry doesn't tell you that difference. I have nothing against you or Zatara... had a lot of good games... But when you say stuff like "Zatara is attempting to throw you guys bone" You sound as cocky as he is in game.... If you are asking for votes, learn to be humble first...

Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution 2670	Posted - 2014.04.29 14:45:00 - [61] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: I have nothing against you or Zatara... had a lot of good games... But when you say stuff like "Zatara is attempting to throw you guys bone" You sound as cocky as he is in game.... If you are asking for votes, learn to be humble first... Himiko's heart is in the right place, he's just super brusque. He just didn't want me running in the first place because correctly guessed the types of challenges I'd face. It's tough to watch people who don't know your friend at all try to make judgment calls about their character when you've worked 6-8 hours a day with your friend and recognize people are way off base. And yet It doesn't excuse anything. We all need to be respectful and professional. As for me being cocky in game? I think I definitely struggle with pride, no one is immune, me most of all. But I can promise you i'm aware of it and I see it as a flaw and I'm working to make myself better. I've never for a moment thought of myself as 'higher' than you NAV, makes me sad after everything you feel that way. I'm sorry I came off like that to you, or anyone for that matter. CEO of FA, Candidate for CPM1 Follow me on twitter Skype Zatara.Rought
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 1620	Posted - 2014.04.29 15:44:00 - [62] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: NAV HIV wrote: I have nothing against you or Zatara... had a lot of good games... But when you say stuff like "Zatara is attempting to throw you guys bone" You sound as cocky as he is in game.... If you are asking for votes, learn to be humble first... Himiko's heart is in the right place, he's just super brusque. He just didn't want me running in the first place because correctly guessed the types of challenges I'd face. It's tough to watch people who don't know your friend at all try to make judgment calls about their character when you've worked 6-8 hours a day with your friend and recognize people are way off base. And yet It doesn't excuse anything. We all need to be respectful and professional. As for me being cocky in game? I think I definitely struggle with pride, no one is immune, me most of all. But I can promise you i'm aware of it and I see it as a flaw and I'm working to make myself better. I've never for a moment thought of myself as 'higher' than you NAV, makes me sad after everything you feel that way. I'm sorry I came off like that to you, or anyone for that matter. You got me wrong bro... You should be cocky in game... If you can kill em better, then why not.. I have no problem with that bro... But The other statement just ticked me off a bit... "Throwing the community a Bone" Specially with CPM and voting and such... "I am CPM and I know better than all and i'm better than all" attitude, not what most of the old players are looking for... Don't be a Jenza... You've played this game long enough to know what needs fixing... My vote will go with you DNS or no DNS, because you have learnt most of the gameplay mechanics from the ground... Someone asked you a question in this thread about your goals to help the community.. You'll get the votes, we will expect you to deliver... As a CORP leader you can do whatever you want with your CORP, but as a CPM you have to keep community separated from CORP/Alliance... You have a lot of hatred towards you and FA right now (Some of them are legit, most of them are not) but honestly it should have nothing to do with you becoming a CPM...
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution 2671	Posted - 2014.04.29 16:09:00 - [63] - Quote I appreciate the support NAV. I know 100% that being on the CPM is not about just my experiences. I'm a conduit for the community. Plain and simple. And i promise I won't confuse myself for more than that. CEO of FA, Candidate for CPM1 Follow me on twitter Skype Zatara.Rought
PHI Black New Eden Retirement 14	Posted - 2014.04.29 17:13:00 - [64] - Quote Us veterans are in need of funds to continue our activities, namely shitposting. My corp would like to know your ideas for future retirement programs (IRA, 401k, etc). The vote of my entire corp depends on your answer.
Deep Shallowness Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 12	Posted - 2014.04.29 18:38:00 - [65] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: II'm a conduit for the community. Plain and simple. That is BS. huge piles of BS. You in no way ARE a conduit for the community. Maybe you SAY you WILL be. But right now, in DUST today you run a corp that supports an alliance that is abusing mechanics in a way that hurts the majority of players. You are not what you say you will be but what you are now. And the you that is now, is not a community focused person.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12878	Posted - 2014.04.29 18:49:00 - [66] - Quote Deep Shallowness wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: II'm a conduit for the community. Plain and simple. That is BS. huge piles of BS. You in no way ARE a conduit for the community. Maybe you SAY you WILL be. But right now, in DUST today you run a corp that supports an alliance that is abusing mechanics in a way that hurts the majority of players. You are not what you say you will be but what you are now. And the you that is now, is not a community focused person. I can almost taste the irony of a person named 'Deep Shallowness' being so deeply shallow as to judge someone completely based on their alliance. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Oh, forums
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution 2673	Posted - 2014.04.29 19:00:00 - [67] - Quote Meh, I don't respond to alts with troll bait. Though I will clarify I meant in the hypothetical I am elected to the CPM, I promise to be a conduit. Obviously currently I am not on the CPM. :D CEO of FA, Candidate for CPM1 Follow me on twitter Skype Zatara.Rought
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 2989	Posted - 2014.04.29 19:16:00 - [68] - Quote The Big Blue Donut is CCPGÇÖs fault. - For making the benefit of owning additional districts additive, so that the more districts you own the more ISK you make. (Passive ISK.) If you had to do something in your district to make ISK from it, owning more districts would mean you would have to do more work to get maximum ISK returns. If this was the case there would be a maximum number of districts that a Corp could benefit from depending on their size and resources. - For allowing district locking so that Corporations could hold many districts without a great deal of effort. - For not making location matter, so that a powerful Alliance can bring their full strength to bare on any district. If location mattered small Corps might be able to hold districts on isolated hard to get to systems. Smaller alliances might be able to hold a constellation by defending strategic points.It would be much harder to just steam roll the entire Region. How can you blame a CEO for doing what is in the best interests of his Corp? Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3727	Posted - 2014.04.29 19:39:00 - [69] - Quote NAV, Do you have any experienced in-house representation currently that cares about you? No. Do you have any land? No. Do you have any signs of getting land in the near future? No. Saying he's "throwing you a bone" isn't some personal attack on you. If I want to do that, I'll make it much more obvious trust me. I'm giving you the reality of the situation. Zatara is on the opposite side of the fence as far as allegiances go, but he cares about your gaming experience. If you don't vote for Zatara, then let me ask you this. Who? Who else has the experience to actually talk to the devs and explain the problems this game faces in their entirety, and has the perspective of being both the underdog and the guy on top? You need someone who brings that perspective and experience to the table. There aren't many players, let alone candidates in that position who fit the bill. You should make your vote about doing whats best for you, not about what's going to hurt me. If Zatara gets elected, my friend wins and I'm happy. If some incompetent moron gets elected, the game will suffer, therefore you suffer, therefore I win by proxy. So either way, you can't vote to spite me. Make this about you.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 2993	Posted - 2014.04.29 19:47:00 - [70] - Quote kiarbanor wrote: The reason I wonGÇÖt vote for you is pretty simple: I was in a chat room when you were discussing our next steps (TsoGÇÖs next steps) after the fix to locking. Right out of your mouth came, GÇ£The last thing I want is to be part of another blue donut,GÇ¥ and, GÇ£we do not want to take over all the districts or kick anyone out of PC. 60 districts, between everyone in our alliance, are the most we want.GÇ¥ Do you remember saying this? I do. Others do. Then, when the pressure was put on, what did you do? You joined the blue donut (justify it all you want) and are currently attempting to kick every single person out of PC except DNS. Because of this, you are a liar. You canGÇÖt be trusted. Seriously? When he said those things he was in a position of power within the Tso alliance, and now you are critical of him for not actuating that vision within the DNS alliance? As I understand it FA is essentially a conquered nation. I seriously doubt that he has the power within DNS that he had within Tso. Do you think that DNSBlack would listen if he said GÇ£hey, why donGÇÖt we just keep 60 districts and let other people have the restGÇ¥? Do you blame Japan for American foreign policy decisions since WWII? Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.

Deep Shallowness Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 12	Posted - 2014.04.29 21:29:00 - [71] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Meh, It's not worth responding to troll bait from an alt. you seem to like to dismiss those that do not agree with you. So ill ask in simple terms a simple question. Is the district locking that DNS took part in and actively advocated in the past and today good or bad for the games community? Good or bad? no waffle... Good or bad?
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12884	Posted - 2014.04.29 21:38:00 - [72] - Quote Deep Shallowness wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: Meh, It's not worth responding to troll bait from an alt. you seem to like to dismiss those that do not agree with you. So ill ask in simple terms a simple question. Is the district locking that DNS took part in and actively advocated in the past and today good or bad for the games community? Good or bad? no waffle... Good or bad? DNS as an alliance has not district locked. Member groups have, in the past - but that was before DNS was created and at a time when 230+ districts were locked at a time by every group in PC. Neither has anyone 'actively advocated' district locking. The voices in what would become DNS were the loudest calls for it to be fixed. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Oh, forums
Deep Shallowness Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 12	Posted - 2014.04.29 21:45:00 - [73] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: DNS as an alliance has not district locked. Member groups have This is a contradiction. A group made from a subset of groups still constitutes the same group.
Deep Shallowness Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 12	Posted - 2014.04.29 21:50:00 - [74] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: The voices in what would become DNS were the loudest calls for it to be fixed. Voices/ BS. They are not acting. Leave PC. This is the only way to prove as a player or a corp you do not support PC as it is now. Any player who stays, Supports it. its that simple.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3733	Posted - 2014.04.29 21:50:00 - [75] - Quote Deep Shallowness wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: Meh, It's not worth responding to troll bait from an alt. you seem to like to dismiss those that do not agree with you. So ill ask in simple terms a simple question. Is the district locking that DNS took part in and actively advocated in the past and today good or bad for the games community? Good or bad? no waffle... Good or bad? DNS never advocated for district locking. Corporations that existed prior to joining DNS used district locking because there was a situation where it was available to everyone, and choosing not to do it left you at a major disadvantage economically and militarily. It's not just DNS that did this, it is quite literally every single faction that was a part of PC at the time and not on PFC. We have never liked district locking, but have accepted it is part of the current game. Damn near all of us would love to see it removed.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12886	Posted - 2014.04.29 21:56:00 - [76] - Quote Deep Shallowness wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: The voices in what would become DNS were the loudest calls for it to be fixed. Voices/ BS. They are not acting. Leave PC. This is the only way to prove as a player or a corp you do not support PC as it is now. Any player who stays, Supports it. its that simple. Leave PC? Do point to where you see FA holding a district. How does one leave PC when they're not in it? Our alliance is in it. We are not. If you're going to bash on us for being a blue donut and farming districts for a ton of ISK in this thread, you might want to realise that you're bashing on completely the wrong people because guess what? We're not landholders. Presumably you won't accept that as 'proof' though, because you're going to blindly flail and scream at our alliance tags. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Oh, forums
Deep Shallowness Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 12	Posted - 2014.04.29 22:00:00 - [77] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Deep Shallowness wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: The voices in what would become DNS were the loudest calls for it to be fixed. Voices/ BS. They are not acting. Leave PC. This is the only way to prove as a player or a corp you do not support PC as it is now. Any player who stays, Supports it. its that simple. Leave PC? Do point to where you see FA holding a district. How does one leave PC when they're not in it? Our alliance is in it. We are not. If you're going to bash on us for being a blue donut and farming districts for a ton of ISK in this thread, you might want to realise that you're bashing on completely the wrong people because guess what? We're not landholders. Presumably you won't accept that as 'proof' though, because you're going to blindly flail and scream at our alliance tags. You dodge. Is FA part of DNS? Is DNS locking PC based on a history of abusing faulty mechanics?
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12887	Posted - 2014.04.29 22:09:00 - [78] - Quote Deep Shallowness wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Leave PC? Do point to where you see FA holding a district. How does one leave PC when they're not in it? Our alliance is in it. We are not. If you're going to bash on us for being a blue donut and farming districts for a ton of ISK in this thread, you might want to realise that you're bashing on completely the wrong people because guess what? We're not landholders. Presumably you won't accept that as 'proof' though, because you're going to blindly flail and scream at our alliance tags. You dodge. Is FA part of DNS? Is DNS locking PC based on a history of abusing faulty mechanics? As I said, you are blindly judging us based on our alliance tags. This is not a thread about DNS. This is a thread about Zatara. It is your own political bias that has led you to start complaining about DNS abusing mechanics in this thread. Regardless of how I answer your question, you are either going to crow and make more sweeping generalisations about the entirety of DNS being exploiters or claim that I am wrong, despite your own question being fundamentally flawed and being based off false information. None of the constituent groups of DNS advocated district locking. None. Zero. Nobody. You can claim that it's 'BS' all you like but that doesn't change the fact that it is true. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Oh, forums
Deep Shallowness Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 12	Posted - 2014.04.29 22:18:00 - [79] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Deep Shallowness wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Leave PC? Do point to where you see FA holding a district. How does one leave PC when they're not in it? Our alliance is in it. We are not. If you're going to bash on us for being a blue donut and farming districts for a ton of ISK in this thread, you might want to realise that you're bashing on completely the wrong people because guess what? We're not landholders. Presumably you won't accept that as 'proof' though, because you're going to blindly flail and scream at our alliance tags. You dodge. Is FA part of DNS? Is DNS locking PC based on a history of abusing faulty mechanics? As I said, you are blindly judging us based on our alliance tags. This is not a thread about DNS. This is a thread about Zatara. It is your own political bias that has led you to start complaining about DNS abusing mechanics in this thread. Regardless of how I answer your question, you are either going to crow and make more sweeping generalisations about the entirety of DNS being exploiters or claim that I am wrong, despite your own question being fundamentally flawed and being based off false information. None of the constituent groups of DNS advocated district locking. None. Zero. Nobody. You can claim that it's 'BS' all you like but that doesn't change the fact that it is true. blah blah blah. Answer the question.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12889	Posted - 2014.04.29 22:19:00 - [80] - Quote Deep Shallowness wrote: blah blah blah. Answer the question. The answer to your question is no. But you won't accept that. I have a question for you. Who is your main? You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Oh, forums

Deep Shallowness Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 12	Posted - 2014.04.29 22:26:00 - [81] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Deep Shallowness wrote: blah blah blah. Answer the question. The answer to your question is no. But you won't accept that. I have a question for you. Who is your main? Nice try at distraction. no main. I don't have time to skip school for that
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12892	Posted - 2014.04.29 22:31:00 - [82] - Quote Deep Shallowness wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Deep Shallowness wrote: blah blah blah. Answer the question. The answer to your question is no. But you won't accept that. I have a question for you. Who is your main? Nice try at distraction. no main. I don't have time to skip school for that What distraction? I answered your question. You don't have a main? Oh. So you have zero experience with PC or player corps then, and have only been in that one NPC corp, and don't actually play? Nice try at distraction. Who is your main? Or are you hiding an obvious political bias of your own? You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Oh, forums
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3734	Posted - 2014.04.29 22:34:00 - [83] - Quote His question has been answered in short and in full. I'm also curious to learn who his main is, and he is clearly too scared to be held accountable for his poor debate skills.
Deep Shallowness Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 12	Posted - 2014.04.29 22:36:00 - [84] - Quote You said the answer is no. So FA is not in DNS then?
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3734	Posted - 2014.04.29 22:40:00 - [85] - Quote Now you're just playing at stupidity.
Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 1681	Posted - 2014.04.29 22:40:00 - [86] - Quote Arkena, step aside. Don't you know the main rules of handling idiots? Send someone equally as moronic in to fight him! I can't get knight to help me, so I'll have to solo him. charges energy, hair turns blonde. Here is my answer to your question, your breath reeks of moldy sausage and the pubic hair of a fat girl who dipped them in grilled cheese. I refuse to answer your questions because they already have, and I have many rapper stuff to do, along with nude baths with women I hardly know, where the water is not water, but a mixture of tears and kool-aid. The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs. Amarrican to the core.
Deep Shallowness Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 12	Posted - 2014.04.29 22:44:00 - [87] - Quote you keep being evasive and trying to dismiss me. I asked a really simple question. which was dodged. Two times. So now my first question has been answered. FA is in DNS. Fine. lets move to question two. Has DNS benefited from district locking?
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3734	Posted - 2014.04.29 22:47:00 - [88] - Quote No, actually. In fact DNS did not even enter into the picture until after district locking was "fixed" so that it would operate at a loss. The only ones still really doing it are the few stragglers like WTF.
Deep Shallowness Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 12	Posted - 2014.04.29 22:49:00 - [89] - Quote Since you are evasive and lying about the timeline of DNS entering PC. I'll take that to be a quite clear answer.
Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 1681	Posted - 2014.04.29 22:50:00 - [90] - Quote Deep Shallowness wrote: you keep being evasive and trying to dismiss me. I asked a really simple question. which was dodged. Two times. So now my first question has been answered. FA is in DNS. Fine. lets move to question two. Has DNS benefited from district locking? A phrase comes to mind when addressing people such you. The phrase can be found in many of my panty dropper songs about no more dropping panties, it goes like "how you be trippin, yo". The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs. Amarrican to the core.

Deep Shallowness Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 12	Posted - 2014.04.29 22:51:00 - [91] - Quote Derrith Erador wrote: Deep Shallowness wrote: you keep being evasive and trying to dismiss me. I asked a really simple question. which was dodged. Two times. So now my first question has been answered. FA is in DNS. Fine. lets move to question two. Has DNS benefited from district locking? A phrase comes to mind when addressing people such you. The phrase can be found in many of my panty dropper songs about no more dropping panties, it goes like "how you be trippin, yo". A phrase but for some reason not an answer. Why would that be I wonder?
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12898	Posted - 2014.04.29 22:51:00 - [92] - Quote Deep Shallowness wrote: you keep dodgeing and trying to dismiss me. I asked a really simple question. which was dadged. Two times. So now my first question has been answered. FA is in DNS. Fine. lets move to question two. Has DNS benefited from district locking? I have already answered this. Repeatedly. The answer is no. You are repeatedly dodging my own questions to you and insisting that I am dodging yours. Let me quote you what I said. Quote: The answer to your question is no. How could that be any clearer? You are deliberately being stupid if you do not see immediately that this was referring to your second question. Quote: Regardless of how I answer your question, you are either going to crow and make more sweeping generalisations about the entirety of DNS being exploiters or claim that I am wrong, despite your own question being fundamentally flawed and being based off false information. I suppose this one actually requires a degree of reading comprehension. Try taking it slowly, a little bit at a time. I'll wait for you to figure that one out. Now, I have answered your question three times. You keep claiming I am dodging your question, but twice you have actually, genuinely dodged my question. Answer the question. Deep Shallowness wrote: Since you are evasive and lying about the timeline of DNS entering PC. I'll take that to be a quite clear answer. Lying? District locking was fixed before the DUST side of DNS came into existence. Get your facts straight before accusing people of lying. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Oh, forums
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4683	Posted - 2014.04.29 22:52:00 - [93] - Quote Deep Shallowness wrote: you keep being evasive and trying to dismiss me. I asked a really simple question. which was dodged. Two times. So now my first question has been answered. FA is in DNS. Fine. lets move to question two. Has DNS benefited from district locking? No, they haven't. Stop asking irrelevant questions. If you are an intelligent person you're trying to play yourself off to be then just get your point so the rest of us can move on from how stupid you're making yourself look. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3737	Posted - 2014.04.29 22:52:00 - [94] - Quote Deep Shallowness wrote: Since you are evasive and lying about the timeline of DNS entering PC. I'll take that to be a quite clear answer. I'm lying now? Wow. I suppose next you'll tell us that DNS troops are killing themselves and hanging their bodies outside of WTF districts in shame. Are you Baghdad Bob or something?
Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 1681	Posted - 2014.04.29 22:56:00 - [95] - Quote Deep Shallowness wrote: Derrith Erador wrote: Deep Shallowness wrote: you keep being evasive and trying to dismiss me. I asked a really simple question. which was dodged. Two times. So now my first question has been answered. FA is in DNS. Fine. lets move to question two. Has DNS benefited from district locking? A phrase comes to mind when addressing people such you. The phrase can be found in many of my panty dropper songs about no more dropping panties, it goes like "how you be trippin, yo". A phrase but for some reason not an answer. Why would that be I wonder? Because you're an idiot. I'm honestly amazed that Himi and Arkena are still responding to you if you managed to attract my attention. We've given you an answer, and you apparently are too stupid to accept it. I can only imagine your alt posting is because of membership to a corp guilty of the same thing or worse. Or it could be simple cowardice. The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs. Amarrican to the core.
Deep Shallowness Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 12	Posted - 2014.04.29 22:59:00 - [96] - Quote So just to clarify your views : 1) FA is in DNS. 2) DNS has in no way benefited from the district locking that has happening in the current version of PC. So OP. Is the above summary inline with your view of your corp? and of your alliance?
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12899	Posted - 2014.04.29 23:00:00 - [97] - Quote Deep Shallowness wrote: So just to clarify your views : 1) FA is in DNS. 2) DNS has in no way benefited from the district locking that has happening in the current version of PC. You know exactly what has been said and repeated to you multiple times. If you have a point, get to it. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Oh, forums
Deep Shallowness Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 12	Posted - 2014.04.29 23:05:00 - [98] - Quote I now only seek the OPs view on the points you clarified on his behalf. and I and also interested to note that you seek to look down on me just because I'm not in some big corp. Even to the the point of trying to mock me by saying I am an ALT just to make it easier to dismiss my comments. You tired to use that as a point against me. Does the OP support this attitude to newer players trying to break into the game?
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 4683	Posted - 2014.04.29 23:08:00 - [99] - Quote Deep Shallowness wrote: So just to clarify your views : 1) FA is in DNS. 2) DNS has in no way benefited from the district locking that has happening in the current version of PC. So OP. Is the above summary inline with your view of your corp? and of your alliance? Okay, that's enough. You might be new to politics but this is old news for me. Setting up a snipe in this form is too easily noticeable and your obvious bias is showing too clearly. There is no reason to continue to respond to this poster. I suggest next time you make a point instead of creating 2 pages of passive-agressive trolling, you limit it to a single post with your reasoning and logic why you approach Zatara the way you have. Have a nice day, peasant. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12903	Posted - 2014.04.29 23:10:00 - [100] - Quote Deep Shallowness wrote: and I and also interested to note that you seek to look down on me just because I'm not in some big corp. Even to the the point of trying to mock me by saying I am an ALT just to make it easier to dismiss my comments You are judging us based on our alliance, but you will not tell anyone what who you actually are. What reason other than your own political bias would you have to hide that? You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Oh, forums

Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3738	Posted - 2014.04.29 23:12:00 - [101] - Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9aW1atFLMM
Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 1681	Posted - 2014.04.29 23:14:00 - [102] - Quote Deep Shallowness wrote: I now only seek the OPs view on the points you clarified on his behalf. and I and also interested to note that you seek to look down on me just because I'm not in some big corp. Even to the the point of trying to mock me by saying I am an ALT just to make it easier to dismiss my comments. You tired to use that as a point against me. Does the OP support this attitude to newer players trying to break into the game? You're clearly an alt. I don't know........... Okay, screw this, I'm going to go back to building my panty dropper library, just found this song. The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs. Amarrican to the core.
Tallen Ellecon 1833	Posted - 2014.04.29 23:21:00 - [103] - Quote If your going to question someones politics in a candidacy thread at least have the balls to do it on your main. If you're going to support your candidate, don't tell people they shouldn't ask the hard questions, give them straight answers. Supporter of tiericide, EVE interaction, and a proper NPE SoonGäó514 "No blue tags make Tallen go crazy.
Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 1682	Posted - 2014.04.29 23:22:00 - [104] - Quote Tallen Ellecon wrote: If your going to question someones politics in a candidacy thread at least have the balls to do it on your main. If you're going to support your candidate, don't tell people they shouldn't ask the hard questions, give them straight answers. We did...... The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs. Amarrican to the core.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12904	Posted - 2014.04.29 23:23:00 - [105] - Quote Tallen Ellecon wrote: If your going to question someones politics in a candidacy thread at least have the balls to do it on your main. If you're going to support your candidate, don't tell people they shouldn't ask the hard questions, give them straight answers. I have answered him three times. Forgive me if I don't have the patience of a saint with an alt poster who I highly doubt will be convinced of anything regardless of what is said in this thread. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Oh, forums
Tallen Ellecon 1833	Posted - 2014.04.29 23:27:00 - [106] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Tallen Ellecon wrote: If your going to question someones politics in a candidacy thread at least have the balls to do it on your main. If you're going to support your candidate, don't tell people they shouldn't ask the hard questions, give them straight answers. I have answered him three times. Forgive me if I don't have the patience of a saint with an alt poster who I highly doubt will be convinced of anything regardless of what is said in this thread. My bad, I was not referring to the same person, I was referring to ealier posts. Supporter of tiericide, EVE interaction, and a proper NPE SoonGäó514 "No blue tags make Tallen go crazy.
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8117	Posted - 2014.04.29 23:40:00 - [107] - Quote Zatara, most your comments tend to be focused around Planetary Conquest. That is great and a huge aspect of the game, but not necessarily something everyone is going to experience. I like your goal of making Dust more immersive and feel like you actually exist within New Eden; how would you suggest CCP achieve that goal for people who are not likely to partake in Planetary Conquest? Surely they should be equally as immersed in the game and feel as though they exist just as much in New Eden too, right? Amarr are the good guys.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12907	Posted - 2014.04.29 23:41:00 - [108] - Quote Tallen Ellecon wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Tallen Ellecon wrote: If your going to question someones politics in a candidacy thread at least have the balls to do it on your main. If you're going to support your candidate, don't tell people they shouldn't ask the hard questions, give them straight answers. I have answered him three times. Forgive me if I don't have the patience of a saint with an alt poster who I highly doubt will be convinced of anything regardless of what is said in this thread. My bad, I was not referring to the same person, I was referring to ealier posts. Don't get me wrong, if I have a list a candidates Zatara is on it..... the question is how far up on it he is. AFAIK he's on the plane to Iceland at the moment. Hopefully once he gets there he'll be able to answer some questions. If you've got any, now is probably the time to ask. Zatara is probably going on my ballot as well. I'm not really sure yet, either. BTW - my main purpose here isn't to convince people of Zatara's glorious perfection and greatness or whatever, it's to respond to people judging him negatively purely based on the alliance tag, especially when that judgement is based on misunderstandings. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Oh, forums
Tallen Ellecon 1833	Posted - 2014.04.29 23:44:00 - [109] - Quote Zatara, what is your spagetti policy? Supporter of tiericide, EVE interaction, and a proper NPE SoonGäó514 "No blue tags make Tallen go crazy.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3741	Posted - 2014.04.30 01:37:00 - [110] - Quote Also for the curious, it has been determined that Deep Shallowness is the character "Deleriumtremens Hellhammer" of LATINOS KILLER CORP. I suppose the void left by Ghostt Shadow had to give rise to another moron. It's a shame that the only voice from the Latino community anybody ever hears is that of a loud mouthed idiot. If I were them, I would consider dealing with that problem.

Appia Vibbia Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2249	Posted - 2014.04.30 01:40:00 - [111] - Quote Derrith Erador wrote: Deep Shallowness wrote: I now only seek the OPs view on the points you clarified on his behalf. and I and also interested to note that you seek to look down on me just because I'm not in some big corp. Even to the the point of trying to mock me by saying I am an ALT just to make it easier to dismiss my comments. You tired to use that as a point against me. Does the OP support this attitude to newer players trying to break into the game? You're clearly an alt. I don't know........... Okay, screw this, I'm going to go back to building my panty dropper library, just found this song. I am so very disappointed. You just found this sound now? This is from like 2011. Get with the times Derrith! Appia Vibbia for CPM1 AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com AKA Nappia, AKA Mathppia
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 4492	Posted - 2014.04.30 01:48:00 - [112] - Quote Appia Vibbia wrote: Derrith Erador wrote: Deep Shallowness wrote: I now only seek the OPs view on the points you clarified on his behalf. and I and also interested to note that you seek to look down on me just because I'm not in some big corp. Even to the the point of trying to mock me by saying I am an ALT just to make it easier to dismiss my comments. You tired to use that as a point against me. Does the OP support this attitude to newer players trying to break into the game? You're clearly an alt. I don't know........... Okay, screw this, I'm going to go back to building my panty dropper library, just found this song. I am so very disappointed. You just found this sound now? This is from like 2011. Get with the times Derrith! He's trying to keep up with the times, but it's hard to run with your panties around your ankles. I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost I hack at Mach V
Killar-12 OLDSPICE. Top Men. 2727	Posted - 2014.04.30 04:01:00 - [113] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Also for the curious, it has been determined that Deep Shallowness is the character "Deleriumtremens Hellhammer" of LATINOS KILLER CORP. I suppose the void left by Ghostt Shadow had to give rise to another moron. It's a shame that the only voice from the Latino community anybody ever hears is that of a loud mouthed idiot. If I were them, I would consider dealing with that problem. They're going to be able to get one free vote done, might try to get them to vote for Zatara if you're really interested. How to Leave PC
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 959	Posted - 2014.04.30 13:58:00 - [114] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: My bad, I was not referring to the same person, I was referring to ealier posts. Don't get me wrong, if I have a list a candidates Zatara is on it..... the question is how far up on it he is. AFAIK he's on the plane to Iceland at the moment. Hopefully once he gets there he'll be able to answer some questions. If you've got any, now is probably the time to ask. Zatara is probably going on my ballot as well. I'm not really sure yet, either. BTW - my main purpose here isn't to convince people of Zatara's glorious perfection and greatness or whatever, it's to respond to people judging him negatively purely based on the alliance tag, especially when that judgement is based on misunderstandings.[/quote] That's a pretty solid reason and I applaud you for it. I do think that a CPM or CSM's corp and alliance affiliations are natural things to consider, however, that should not be any kind of automatic vote / no vote criteria. I would remind you that Zatara has a long history and has had quite a few negative and positive interactions with folks way before DNS came about. My concerns with Zatara had nothing to do with his alliance tags, just previous interactions. I think as a candidate he has a lot of potential and i'm very willing to see how he comports himself during the election and I'll vote for him if I think he is one of the top guys I would personally want talking to CCP on my behalf and communicating to me on behalf of CCP. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 7211	Posted - 2014.04.30 20:58:00 - [115] - Quote I'm just worried about Zatara yelling at one of the other CPMs or a CCP member for not being clutch enough.
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 4499	Posted - 2014.04.30 21:51:00 - [116] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: I'm just worried about Zatara yelling at one of the other CPMs or a CCP member for not being clutch enough. CCP! YOU GUYS NEED TO PUSH THIS NEW CONTENT! THIS UPDATE WASN'T CLUTCH ENOUGH YO! I'm sorry guys, I'm not mad, I just know you guys are better than this EDIT: WE NEED MORE EVENTS IN OUR DAMN CALENDER! WHY DO I HAVE THESE SHI**Y 3 DAY EVENTS IN MY CALANDER GUYS?! I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost I hack at Mach V
Killar-12 OLDSPICE. Top Men. 2728	Posted - 2014.04.30 23:58:00 - [117] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Patrick57 wrote: I'm just worried about Zatara yelling at one of the other CPMs or a CCP member for not being clutch enough. CCP! YOU GUYS NEED TO PUSH THIS NEW CONTENT! THIS UPDATE WASN'T CLUTCH ENOUGH YO! I'm sorry guys, I'm not mad, I just know you guys are better than this EDIT: WE NEED MORE EVENTS IN OUR DAMN CALENDER! WHY DO I HAVE THESE SHI**Y 3 DAY EVENTS IN MY CALANDER GUYS?! This and a Nade Buff, we know he will ask for it... How to Leave PC
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 4503	Posted - 2014.05.01 04:24:00 - [118] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: This and a Nade Buff, we know he will ask for it... You obviously don't understand the joke. My comment was a play on how Zatara is during a PC (Listening to him FC is fun in and of itself) I've always had a lot of respect for you Killar, but bashing someones own candidacy thread? Surely you have better things to do. Also, how was anything I stated bad? It's like he's pushing CCP to succeed, in his own way (He somehow manages to do the same to our PC teams, even with the same tactics.) I deleted my above comment at the corps consent, and I would like to ask you to do the same to your comment. I forgot that some people won't understand this joke, and that it can negatively affect his image if taken the wrong way (I hate politics) Also, I don't believe that he be so petty as to push CCP to buff how he plays the game. I may have only been in FA for 3 months, but in that time, I honestly believe that he is one of the BEST options for CPM. He and Appia are my top two choices for CPM, as I do believe that they have the best interests of the game at heart from a competitive standpoint. I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost I hack at Mach V
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 4503	Posted - 2014.05.01 04:30:00 - [119] - Quote Deep Shallowness wrote: So just to clarify your views : 1) FA is in DNS. 2) DNS has in no way benefited from the district locking that has happening in the current version of PC. So OP. Is the above summary inline with your view of your corp? and of your alliance? You have already reached a conclusion, and you are trying to twist facts to suit your own fantasies. I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost I hack at Mach V
The Black Jackal The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 1113	Posted - 2014.05.01 05:06:00 - [120] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Deep Shallowness wrote: So just to clarify your views : 1) FA is in DNS. 2) DNS has in no way benefited from the district locking that has happening in the current version of PC. So OP. Is the above summary inline with your view of your corp? and of your alliance? You have already reached a conclusion, and you are trying to twist facts to suit your own fantasies. Basing the ability of someone to contribute to the game based on current Alliance Affiliation is not the right way to go. Their platform, whether PC intensive, or NPE intensive, or general immersion is what should be getting them votes or not. Zatara has declared his views, his platform, and what he aims to do as a member of the CPM. Judge him on that, and not on his current Corporate / Alliance affiliation or in-game behaviour. Game personalities tend to be greatly differed from real life personalities, and real life is what the CPM is really about. I disagree with other CPM candidates, and in game, have many rivalries, but out of game, via Skype and other mediums, I tend to have civilised and thought out discourse with all the current candidates that I have spoken to in such a manner. This indicates to me that such a biased view doesn't take into consideration how they actually play out in a real world situation. Being an **hole in game, doesn't always translate into being an **hole in real life, or in regards to platforms. Once you go Black, you just never go back!

Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution 2688	Posted - 2014.05.02 07:57:00 - [121] - Quote 1) Other than the forums how do you intend to collect and communicate requests, needs, POV of the community? In particular, those outside your corp / alliance. Skype (participate in large discussion groups) Twitter Reddit and connections Aside from the forums, I use a few other mediums: Skype Twitter Reddit IRC On Skype, I participate in discussion groups such as GÇÿDust ScussionGÇÖ, the channel that Hans made. I know youGÇÖre in that one, but IGÇÖll describe it a little for those reading who arenGÇÖt GÇô itGÇÖs a very large group channel (120+ people IIRC) where people can have live chats about various DUST topics. ItGÇÖs moderated to stop it from devolving into the type of mud-slinging that the forums unfortunately devolve into all too often, and the discussions there often consist of intelligent and well-thought out comments. People are also free to add me on Skype at Zatara.Rought GÇô IGÇÖd love to hear from you. I use Twitter as well, you can find me here. IGÇÖm quite happy to engage anyone who tweets me here as well. I also read Reddit very frequently. Admittedly I lurk more than I post but IGÇÖm a keen Redditor (I used to be in Subdreddit, actually) and itGÇÖs a medium IGÇÖm very familiar with. And finally I'll be rectifying my long abandoned activity via IRC. IGÇÖm always open to opening more lines of communication though GÇô ultimately, I see communication as probably the most important part of the CPM role. 2) What level of interaction would you like to establish between the CPM and CSM? IGÇÖd love to see us working together and striking an unanimous cord on how to better the link, but there are a lot of difficulties facing both groups for co-operating over that. Currently, the EVE-DUST link is limited. This is an unfortunate reality. TheyGÇÖre not very relevant to one another, neither has a significant impact on the other. So I feel that an expanded link is important for CPM-CSM discussion. To expand that link, itGÇÖs important to get both groups on board with suggestions as each side is likely to have a much better understanding of the impacts on the game theyGÇÖre representing. When DUST and EVE really start to link up I think itGÇÖs very important that any transitions go smoothly, and for that I feel that both the CSM and the CPM need to have discussed changes thoroughly with each other and CCP, to ensure a healthy link. I plan on meeting as many of the CSM candidates (and the ones actually elected, once that gets announced) at Fanfest, which IGÇÖve recently arrived in Iceland for. So to summarize: I think CSM-CPM interaction is very important if the games are ultimately going to have a real, solid link and itGÇÖs important to start building those bridges. 3) What are the top 3 short term (next 2mo's) changes you would encourage CCP to make? I'm looking for concrete examples that are realistic to achieve. PC fixes, a handful of outstanding balance issues, and matchmaking. ItGÇÖs painfully obvious at the moment that PC is a mess. ItGÇÖs popularized as the GÇÿgreat blue donutGÇÖ and for good reason. 100% Molden Heath control is not something I want to see happening for any alliance, and at the moment DNS pretty much holds everything. There are a handful of districts held by OH and WTF (and I have to give serious props to them, theyGÇÖve worked damn hard for them) but thatGÇÖs the exception rather than the rule. There are two changes that I would like to see to PC. The first is a change to clone packs. At the moment, clone packs give you 120 clones and itGÇÖs not feasible to wage a war against decent corps and actually hope to take their districts with that many clones. If you lose 20 clones, you canGÇÖt re-attack. If you canGÇÖt re-attack, itGÇÖs going to cost you a lot more ISK to take that district and itGÇÖs going to be a lot more difficult. Taking districts with clone packs alone is mostly only doable by the elite corps, and I donGÇÖt think thatGÇÖs healthy. The second is a re-shifting of the passive ISK to active ISK balance. At the moment DNS is generating obscene amounts of ISK just by sitting on a load of districts. I think that while there should be a reward for holding districts, it should place an emphasis on active combat rather than passive farming. Previously, there was a change to PC that increased the ISK value of a combat biomassed clone and reduced the value of a passive biomassed clone. I think that needs to go further, as otherwise the economy will end up completely wrecked once it develops because of the huge amounts of ISK weGÇÖre going to be able to throw around. Shifting the balance to favor ISK gain through combat should hopefully have a fairly obvious effect GÇô encouraging actual combat and fighting rather than stagnant GÇÿblue donutsGÇÖ. CEO of FA, Candidate for CPM1 Follow me on twitter Skype Zatara.Rought
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution 2688	Posted - 2014.05.02 08:02:00 - [122] - Quote CONTINUED The main problem at the moment is, I would say, scout versatility. Others may disagree with me on this (feel free to discuss) but I donGÇÖt see any reason, for example, why scouts should be able to GÇÿbrick tankGÇÖ like they can atm. IGÇÖm seeing a lot of scouts with almost as much HP as I would expect from an assault but with a whole host of other advantages. An excellent example is the suit I use, actually GÇô the Caldari scout is just better at assaulting than the Caldari assault is. IGÇÖm enjoying it, and itGÇÖs a fun suit, but it really shouldnGÇÖt be as tanky as a mediumframe. In some ways the scout is actually better at tanking than the assault. The Calscout has a much better shield regen than the Calassault and the Galscout has a better passive armor rep than the Galassault. To me, thatGÇÖs not right. I strongly feel that scouts should be focused on EWAR. As it is scouts can fight as well as most medium frames while having better speed, much better EWAR, and cloaks. There are some things with EWAR I donGÇÖt think are quite right either. A Galscout with one dampener can hide from a Calscout with four precision enhancers whilst cloaked. ThatGÇÖs not right either. I think thatGÇÖs due to the 20% bonus of precision enhancers vs 25% dampeners and natural scan precision being higher than natural scan profile. There could be a great EWAR dynamic if these things are balanced better with each other. So to summarize my thoughts here: scouts shouldnGÇÖt be able to tank like assaults (and some logis) and EWAR balance needs a little work. The third issue is matchmaking. This isnGÇÖt a simple issue. I donGÇÖt think the entire thing can be addressed in 2 months. But progress can be made, and itGÇÖs really important that it is made. Simple changes like ensuring teams arenGÇÖt stacked with two squads against randoms would go a long way to stopping pubs being the stompfests that they are atm. There are still going to be problems with things like squad finder squads filled with what are essentially still randoms being put up against full corp squads with mics, but itGÇÖd do something. After that kind of thing is done then more comprehensive changes can be thought about. 4) What are the top 3 mid term (next 6mo's) changes you would encourage CCP to make? NPE, PC 2.0, and Player Market. NPE is so essential and it stuns me that we still donGÇÖt really even have a tutorial. There are a couple of splash screens explaining a few things like fitting (but only briefly) and then newbies get chucked into a match. I havenGÇÖt been in the academy for a while (I havenGÇÖt made any alts recently) but the last time I was there it was filled with people who had absolutely no idea what they were doing. They get thrown into a match with no instructions. Shortly after that they really do get thrown to the wolves with barely any more experience. I once heard a story about someone who sent an angry mail to a blue dot asking why they werenGÇÖt capping an objective. When he responded it became clear that he didnGÇÖt know how to cap one. Nobody had ever told him. A bit of that might be stupid for not figuring out going up to the console with the big letter on it, but thatGÇÖs pretty sad. I guess itGÇÖs also a surprise he knew how to use the mail system. A tutorial is absolutely critical to the future of the game. Also, the academy should reward new players for accomplishing goals that actually help them grasp the game, not just basic fitting but also how to play. I also think that some social aspects should be explained to them. The game gets much better once you get in a corp and thatGÇÖs something that newbies really should be encouraged to do. An idea IGÇÖm quite keen on is having newbies automatically put into recruitment channels and help channels. There are a couple of player startups for help channels like the Learning Coalition but itGÇÖs probably difficult for newbies to find their way there and player staffing is going to be limited there. When looking at the help channel in EVE the contrast is striking GÇô thereGÇÖs a rookie help chat crewed by ISD members, GMs and volunteers, and people are automatically placed in the main help chat as well. There are huge numbers of people who just drop in and ask/answer questions and itGÇÖs a really great help for the newbies as well as a community builder. PC 2.0 is a difficult thing. ItGÇÖs been talked about for a while and itGÇÖs become abundantly clear that the system we have right now is bad. IGÇÖm waiting on fanfest for more news on this as IGÇÖm hoping thereGÇÖll be some talk about this but there are a ton of problems that run a lot deeper than quick fixes like clone packs and passive ISK generation. IGÇÖll elaborate more after fanfest. CEO of FA, Candidate for CPM1 Follow me on twitter Skype Zatara.Rought
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution 2688	Posted - 2014.05.02 08:04:00 - [123] - Quote Finally, the player market. To me this is massively important to DUST. ThereGÇÖs this idea of New Eden being a cut-throat, ISK centred sandbox, but thatGÇÖs not there. The market is critical to that idea. At the moment, there are basically two ways of getting ISK: Grinding pubs, or playing PC. One of those will barely sustain you, and the other is barely accessible. The market makes FW a viable gamemode to play if you want to play that alone, as you gain the ability to sell the LP products so you can buy things that you need from other races, and sell salvage that you canGÇÖt use. IGÇÖm sure a lot of people have accumulated vast quantities of salvage that theyGÇÖre never really going to use. The player market would let people feel like either they picked up a cool trinket in salvage or theyGÇÖve gotten a little extra profit from getting that salvage. It makes salvage a neat little bonus to end of battle screens rather than GÇÿugh, some random inventory clogging stuffGÇÖ. It also opens up a load of new avenues for sandbox gameplay. YouGÇÖd be able to make ISK buying and selling on the market, being a trader. YouGÇÖd be able to scam people, which is a legendary part of New Eden. IGÇÖm a little worried that would have a bad effect on new players if they got scammed right as they joined though. There are some problems like the massive ISK stockpiles that have resulted from PC, and itGÇÖs not a simple thing, but I think itGÇÖd go a huge way to helping this feel like New Eden. 5) In Spring of 2015, when CPM1's term is up, what would you want people to have said about your tenure as a CPM member? I want people to say that I reflected the communitiesGÇÖ sentiments effectively and worked tirelessly for them, and that I built bridges with CCP. Asking for more communication is almost cliche by now but thatGÇÖs something that I really want to improve on. Things like rather than posting threads about future changes and leaving them, set in stone, going into those threads and talking with people. In the end though, I see the role of CPM as that of a conduit and advisor. If when I finish the term people say that I brought their concerns to CCP effectively and advised effectively, and if people no longer judge me for my tags but for the work I did as CPM, then I will be happy. 6) Will you be creating a channel for folks to meet and sqd with you during the period before the election? No. IGÇÖll be joining the other candidates in the CPM channel. CEO of FA, Candidate for CPM1 Follow me on twitter Skype Zatara.Rought
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution 2688	Posted - 2014.05.02 08:06:00 - [124] - Quote RESERVED for a slightly more personal response to whataguy's question(s) CEO of FA, Candidate for CPM1 Follow me on twitter Skype Zatara.Rought
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution 2688	Posted - 2014.05.02 08:07:00 - [125] - Quote RESERVED for answering Aero's pertinent question. CEO of FA, Candidate for CPM1 Follow me on twitter Skype Zatara.Rought
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3920	Posted - 2014.05.05 06:53:00 - [126] - Quote I'd just like to point out that of all the potential candidates, Zatara was the only one to ask a relevant question concerning Dust's future at fanfest.
The Black Jackal The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 1136	Posted - 2014.05.05 09:54:00 - [127] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I'd just like to point out that of all the potential candidates, Zatara was the only one to ask a relevant question concerning Dust's future at fanfest. I applaud Zatara for that. But I'd just like to point out. Not every candidate was at Fanfest to ask such questions. Once you go Black, you just never go back!
ReGnYuM Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad. 2934	Posted - 2014.05.05 11:53:00 - [128] - Quote The Black Jackal wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: I'd just like to point out that of all the potential candidates, Zatara was the only one to ask a relevant question concerning Dust's future at fanfest. I applaud Zatara for that. But I'd just like to point out. Not every candidate was at Fanfest to ask such questions. But it should be noted, that Zatara made the time to attend Fan Fest. If anything, it shows he willing to go the extra mile for the community. The Pathway to Hell, is paved with good intentions Total Molden Heath Domination Imminent: 97.51% Complete
Appia Vibbia Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2326	Posted - 2014.05.05 22:05:00 - [129] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: CONTINUED The main problem at the moment is, I would say, scout versatility. Others may disagree with me on this (feel free to discuss) but I donGÇÖt see any reason, for example, why scouts should be able to GÇÿbrick tankGÇÖ like they can atm. IGÇÖm seeing a lot of scouts with almost as much HP as I would expect from an assault but with a whole host of other advantages. An excellent example is the suit I use, actually GÇô the Caldari scout is just better at assaulting than the Caldari assault is. IGÇÖm enjoying it, and itGÇÖs a fun suit, but it really shouldnGÇÖt be as tanky as a mediumframe. In some ways the scout is actually better at tanking than the assault. The Calscout has a much better shield regen than the Calassault and the Galscout has a better passive armor rep than the Galassault. To me, thatGÇÖs not right. I strongly feel that scouts should be focused on EWAR. As it is scouts can fight as well as most medium frames while having better speed, much better EWAR, and cloaks. There are some things with EWAR I donGÇÖt think are quite right either. A Galscout with one dampener can hide from a Calscout with four precision enhancers whilst cloaked. ThatGÇÖs not right either. I think thatGÇÖs due to the 20% bonus of precision enhancers vs 25% dampeners and natural scan precision being higher than natural scan profile. There could be a great EWAR dynamic if these things are balanced better with each other. So to summarize my thoughts here: scouts shouldnGÇÖt be able to tank like assaults (and some logis) and EWAR balance needs a little work. We recently talked about our SP allocation. Basically we were very similar amounts only you had more in weaponry andI had more in dropsuit command. That was like 2 million SP ago. Since then I've continued to invest in more dropsuits. First off, to say that a suit should not be able to brick tank is a horrible thing. You are outright denying one of the few strengths of DUST 514 by taking away customization. As someone that was fighting tooth and nail to have their suit(s) function, all I see is someone that does not understand the strengths and weaknesses of the role suits. I've been a Scout in PC since its inception. For OA and HS I was a Sniper, for TP I was a speed hacker, stealth uplink deployment, for AE I was a shotguner. I've been saying how terrible the Minmatar scout was from 1.0 to 1.7. I got the Minmatar suit to proto back during the nova knife challenge. 1.8 dropped and I immediately got Gallente, Caldari, and Minmatar Scout Suit Operation to level 5 You know what I miss terribly? My Assault ck.0 and my Assault ak.0 The people that never played the suit, when the scout community was desperate for the promised 'dev hugs' that were seemingly never coming, wanted to relegate the suit to a immobile active scanner. This is a First Person Shooter. Everyone deserves to be able to shoot people. Saying "Scouts need to focus on EWAR" is like saying Heavies only get armor plates and shield extenders. Or Logistics only get equipment. Or assaults can only use shield energizers, shield regulators, and armor repairers. Personally, I think you should be embarrassed by what you said here. Show me once where you were against slayer-logis. Quote: The main problem at the moment is, I would say, logistics versatility. Others may disagree with me on this (feel free to discuss) but I donGÇÖt see any reason, for example, why logistics should be able to GÇÿbrick tankGÇÖ like they can atm. IGÇÖm seeing a lot of Logistics with much more HP than I would expect from an assault but with a whole host of other advantages. An excellent example is the suit I use, actually GÇô the Gallente Logistics is just better at assaulting than the Gallente assault is. IGÇÖm enjoying it, and itGÇÖs a fun suit, but it really shouldnGÇÖt be as tanky as an Assault suit. In some ways the Logistics is actually better at tanking than the assault. Why was this seemingly absent from you for the last 12 months? Why is it still missing? The Caldari Logistics suit is a far better slayer suit now that they get a reduction to fitting cost on equipment and you don't feel like you're crippling yourself by not using a Rail Rifle. Assaults are now, and have been, in a bad place. Please don't put the problem elsewhere. Please don't ignore that Logistics were and still are outshining Assaults. From here, let us look at DUST's EWAR. We currently have 3 modules and 2 equipment that follow under EWAR: Precision Enhancers, Range Amplifiers, Profile Dampeners, Active Scanners, and Cloak Fields. Take a look here, this is the scan table I use. It isn't nice and color coded likes haerr's but it is mine. Look at those values. Compare the profile to precision. Without a cloak, the only suit in the game that can overcome Caldari Precision is the Gallente Scout. No matter how dedicated another suit is, they cannot compete with it. If they know someone is using 3 precision enhancers, at that point they have no need for scanning modules and just brick tank. Look again, this time at the values including the cloak field when active. Again the Gallente Scout can avoid detection, but now by dedicating their low slots other scouts can as well. Still medium and heavy frames suits cannot avoid detection no matter how much they wish. All scouts should be adapt at stealth. All scouts should have a way to overcome the passive and active scanning. If you adjust the values specifically because you think Gallente Scouts, which is essentially the only counter to Caldari Scanning, should be reduced in efficacy then remember that there are 3 other scout suits out there and 16 more suits that can never avoid detection. The power to see and share locations of enemies is far more powerful than to hide one's self. [character limit reached] Appia Vibbia for CPM1 AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com AKA Nappia, AKA Mathppia
kiarbanor S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance 442	Posted - 2014.05.10 23:32:00 - [130] - Quote Fixed some of my comments.

Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution 2792	Posted - 2014.05.11 06:32:00 - [131] - Quote kiarbanor wrote: Fixed some of my comments. I hope I can count on your support my friend. I will need all the help I can get. CEO of FA, Candidate for CPM1 Follow me on twitter Skype Zatara.Rought
Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 1267	Posted - 2014.05.11 08:34:00 - [132] - Quote I just realised that I've been very remiss in not returning Zatara's kind words that he posted in my thread after we met in Iceland. Of all the players who'd made the trip to Iceland, I think it fair to say that Zatara was the one that perhaps took the news of Legion and the switch to PC hardest. But the way he recovered and kept the pressure on CCP about the switch and character transfer was very gratifying to watch. It also showed me that he'd be a fierce advocate for the players, both on PC and hopefully on PS4 if CCP can realise that as they very much hope to. So Zatara will be getting one of my votes for CPM o7. We will need that kind of fierceness in the CPM talks with CCP and I very much hope that we get the chance to do that in the same team. CPM1 Candidate CEO of DUST University
Appia Vibbia molon labe. General Tso's Alliance 2355	Posted - 2014.05.11 14:21:00 - [133] - Quote Zatara seems to be getting votes for having the disposable income and ability to take a week off to travel to fan fest. Appia Vibbia for CPM1 AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com AKA Nappia, AKA Mathppia
Tech De Ra Electronic Sports League 389	Posted - 2014.05.11 15:51:00 - [134] - Quote Appia Vibbia wrote: Zatara seems to be getting votes for having the disposable income and ability to take a week off to travel to fan fest. The fact that people had an opportunity to get to know him during fanfest is the reason, not the fact that he went to fanfest Tech De Ra // Electronic Sports League Prime League champion Fanfest '14 All star champion
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution 2801	Posted - 2014.05.11 16:47:00 - [135] - Quote Indeed while to was my privilege to attend fanfest, i hope no one votes for me simply because i attended. I am grateful for the positive experiences i had meeting tech, dennie, hans, mcribwhich and many others including ccp employees. I do not feel sorry if these experiences lead to a greater understanding of who i am and what i wish to offer. CEO of FA, Candidate for CPM1 Follow me on twitter Skype Zatara.Rought
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 870	Posted - 2014.05.11 20:17:00 - [136] - Quote Tech De Ra wrote: Appia Vibbia wrote: Zatara seems to be getting votes for having the disposable income and ability to take a week off to travel to fan fest. The fact that people had an opportunity to get to know him during fanfest is the reason, not the fact that he went to fanfest Or that he is good at advertising himself :D. Its a skill that not everyone posses and is a requirement to get elected to any office, including CPM.
Killar-12 OLDSPICE. Top Men. 2807	Posted - 2014.05.12 00:10:00 - [137] - Quote I would generally not vote for a Player involved with Planetary Conquest, but Zatara has shown over the past, an ability to relate in certain areas to the average player as well as those involved with Planetary Conquest, and due to that I would like to endorse him. I AM 1337 Approved
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution 2818	Posted - 2014.05.12 04:57:00 - [138] - Quote Many thanks to Dennie and Killar, both pillars of the community. I look forward to the opportunity to work with you Keval. o7 CEO of FA, Candidate for CPM1 Follow me on twitter Skype Zatara.Rought
Kain Spero 3545	Posted - 2014.05.14 00:20:00 - [139] - Quote I had reservations about Zatara until I met him face to face at FanFest. I can only echo earlier sentiments in terms of the resolve and focus that he showed when faced with the legion announcement. Again and again Zatara made CCP focus and address the issue "what about Dust 514?" at panels and roundtables. He even used his twitter feed to facilitate community members asking questions from abroad. His dedication to asking these questions to me echoes the dedication he will have to the community. Zatara has also proven time and again his ability to navigate perilous political waters in a tactful way. I think these skills will serve him well on the CPM. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and CPM news
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1073	Posted - 2014.05.14 16:26:00 - [140] - Quote Appia, if you're running for CPM coming to Zatara's thread and complianing/attacking/whining doesn't seem like it will get you votes. Just saying, a line of questioning is one thing. Attacking is another. And no!! I won't be voting for Zatara or anyone else. The CPM is as useless as a 3rd d!ck. Not just who is on it, but the purpose. The game is going away. Go ahead, tell me how productive you were oh great one Kane... Sorry Zatara, not trying to derail your thread. Just don't understand why Appia would come here and fire shots. Carry on. "CCP encourages respect, dialog, interaction and cooperation on a deeper level between its employees and customers"

Waruiko DUST G I A N T General Tso's Alliance 164	Posted - 2014.05.15 13:51:00 - [141] - Quote Kain your approval is perhaps the most poisonous act a merc looking for public support can receive. If blood and sweat don't teach them perhaps time will
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 13293	Posted - 2014.05.15 13:52:00 - [142] - Quote Waruiko DUST wrote: Kain your approval is perhaps the most poisonous act a merc looking for public support can receive. If you dislike Kane personally please don't judge Zatara's candidacy solely based on his endorsement. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 8510	Posted - 2014.05.15 14:21:00 - [143] - Quote The amount of times the Association Fallacy was used in this thread is sickening. Official Atiim Feedback Thread -HAND
Fiddlestaxp TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 942	Posted - 2014.05.18 00:56:00 - [144] - Quote Zatara is an old PC player who has seen it all. His work with Teamplayers and ERA/DNS was invaluable to our cause and if he brings half the effort he put in to those ventures, he will be the hardest working PM on the Council.
Skeletor Voltron The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 47	Posted - 2014.05.23 02:20:00 - [145] - Quote People should definitely get to know Zatara :) I've been playing with him for almost a year now and I fully support his bid for candidacy. This dude wants dust to be the dream we all want, and he'll fight tooth and nail to get it there. +1 Zatara Director for FAB Forever Faabulous
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2130	Posted - 2014.05.24 17:57:00 - [146] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Dust514 needs to improve the sandbox There is not enough +1 for this statement A firm commitment to this concept is, in my view, reasons enough for a player to give your candidacy real consideration. Beyond that, from our discussions on Skype, I can say with confidence that while you are passionate and often blunt (not always a bad thing by any means) you also take proactive steps to keep everyone included in the discussion and to put it back when things start to stray away from a constructive path into an emotional or functionalist one. Your willingness to apply on the field PC experience to top down questions of game balance is an asset to such discussions and would, I believe, prove an asset to the council should you be elected. Beyond that your proactive steps to engage other candidates, and community members, for feedback regarding specific ideas/aspects also helps promote a functional working environment. I look forward to continuing to debate ideas with you in both the short and long term. Cheers, Cross Cross Atu for CPM1- An emergent candidate
STABBEY Heaven's Lost Property 502	Posted - 2014.05.25 18:19:00 - [147] - Quote If you get them to make my assault suit viable again you got my vote. Srry I'm too high to focus I only got halfway threw the OP Gÿú GÖ¦ Gÿñ Gäó © sç+(¬GÇ+¬)sç+ (-éGîú¦Ç_Gîú¦ü)ßòñ Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉ-Vet-GòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉ+¦Gû¼Gû¼ +¬(GùÅ¦«¦âGÇó)¦¦ (GùúGùó)GöîGê¬GöÉ (a+ç'¦Ç-'¦ü)a+ç GöîGê¬GöÉ(Gùú_Gùó)GöîGê¬GöÉ
Zatara Rought General Tso's Alliance 3281	Posted - 2014.05.25 19:05:00 - [148] - Quote STABBEY wrote: If you get them to make my assault suit viable again you got my vote. Srry I'm too high to focus I only got halfway threw the OP Hehehe it's probably longer than it needs to be then O_O Stabbey you and I have played the game a **** ton, and you can trust I'll be working hard to make sure the assault suit gets some love. There's a lot of ways to do it, but I'm gonna want your ideas and creativity to tackle it. <3 CEO of FA, Candidate for CPM1 Follow me on twitter Skype Zatara.Rought
STABBEY Heaven's Lost Property 502	Posted - 2014.05.25 20:51:00 - [149] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: STABBEY wrote: If you get them to make my assault suit viable again you got my vote. Srry I'm too high to focus I only got halfway threw the OP Hehehe it's probably longer than it needs to be then O_O Stabbey you and I have played the game a ** ton, and you can trust I'll be working hard to make sure the assault suit gets some love. There's a lot of ways to do it, but I'm gonna want your ideas and creativity to tackle it. <3 How the ** do we vote anyway lol Gÿú GÖ¦ Gÿñ Gäó © sç+(¬GÇ+¬)sç+ (-éGîú¦Ç_Gîú¦ü)ßòñ Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉ-Vet-GòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉ+¦Gû¼Gû¼ +¬(GùÅ¦«¦âGÇó)¦¦ (GùúGùó)GöîGê¬GöÉ (a+ç'¦Ç-'¦ü)a+ç GöîGê¬GöÉ(Gùú_Gùó)GöîGê¬GöÉ
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 13745	Posted - 2014.05.25 20:53:00 - [150] - Quote STABBEY wrote: How the **** do we vote anyway lol You can't, yet. Nobody has a clue what's going on with the elections. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Cross Atu for CPM1

STABBEY Heaven's Lost Property 503	Posted - 2014.05.25 22:05:00 - [151] - Quote Zatara add me on Skype real quick Skype name is stabbeyy Gÿú GÖ¦ Gÿñ Gäó © sç+(¬GÇ+¬)sç+ (-éGîú¦Ç_Gîú¦ü)ßòñ Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉ-Vet-GòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉ+¦Gû¼Gû¼ +¬(GùÅ¦«¦âGÇó)¦¦ (GùúGùó)GöîGê¬GöÉ (a+ç'¦Ç-'¦ü)a+ç GöîGê¬GöÉ(Gùú_Gùó)GöîGê¬GöÉ
Zatara Rought General Tso's Alliance 3286	Posted - 2014.05.25 22:32:00 - [152] - Quote STABBEY wrote: Zatara add me on Skype real quick Skype name is stabbeyy You got it. o7 CEO of FA, Candidate for CPM1 Follow me on twitter Skype Zatara.Rought
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2135	Posted - 2014.05.26 01:24:00 - [153] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: STABBEY wrote: How the **** do we vote anyway lol You can't, yet. Nobody has a clue what's going on with the elections. With luck CCP will provide such a clue soon (and not SOONtm) I know Z is as ready as I am to get working in an even deeper way (standard electoral disclaimers apply of course, but why not be optimistic in the mean time eh?) Cheers, Cross Cross Atu for CPM1- An emergent candidate
Zatara Rought General Tso's Alliance 3293	Posted - 2014.05.27 12:54:00 - [154] - Quote Cross Atu wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: Dust514 needs to improve the sandbox There is not enough +1 for this statement A firm commitment to this concept is, in my view, reason enough for a player to give your candidacy real consideration. Beyond that, from our discussions on Skype, I can say with confidence that while you are passionate and often blunt (not always a bad thing by any means) you also take proactive steps to keep everyone included in the discussion and to pull it back when things start to stray away from a constructive path into an emotional or factionalist one. Your willingness to apply on the field PC experience to top down questions of game balance is an asset to such discussions and would, I believe, prove an asset to the council should you be elected. Beyond that your proactive steps to engage other candidates, and community members, for feedback regarding specific ideas/aspects also helps promote a functional working environment. I look forward to continuing to debate ideas with you in both the short and long term. Cheers, Cross MRW I read this <3 Thanks for the kind words Cross. I do hope these election come soon! CEO of FA, Candidate for CPM1 Follow me on twitter Skype Zatara.Rought
Funkmaster Whale Whale Farm 2292	Posted - 2014.05.27 21:26:00 - [155] - Quote Zatara is probably the only candidate I know worth voting for. We need CPM members that don't just play the game but are actually good at it. My vote goes to him. Zatara please stop yelling in coms though <3 Follow me on Twitch.tv!
Ghost Kaisar The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 4963	Posted - 2014.05.27 22:45:00 - [156] - Quote Oh my God, I couldn't stop laughing at this. Fox Gaden Summed up this entire thread in a paragraph. BTW Zatara, you have my vote for CPM. And I'm not saying this as a member of your corp. I honestly believe that you are an excellent candidate for CPM. Headed to Destiny, To Hell with CCP PSN: EVL_Elgost105 RIP Dust514 05/02/14 GG CCP
Zatara Rought General Tso's Alliance 3297	Posted - 2014.05.28 00:48:00 - [157] - Quote Funkmaster Whale wrote: Zatara is probably the only candidate I know worth voting for. We need CPM members that don't just play the game but are actually good at it. My vote goes to him. Zatara please stop yelling in coms though <3 I appreciate the endorsement Funk. <3 When it comes to high end balance I hope my voice will be one the counsel benefits from having. CEO of FA, Candidate for CPM1 Follow me on twitter Skype Zatara.Rought
Hawkin P Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 390	Posted - 2014.05.28 02:06:00 - [158] - Quote I have known zatara a long time and strongly hope you consider him for CPM
Al the destroyer Last VenDetta. 141	Posted - 2014.05.28 03:33:00 - [159] - Quote I don't know you very well Zatara I've played with you a few times and against you a few times that doesn't matter. You feedback on the recent scout changes was impressive to me. I truly felt you had no biased and no agenda. I feel you want what is best for the game. You will have my vote and my support good luck to you I admire your passion for Dust! Still playing having more fun than ever cuz IDGAF.
Zatara Rought General Tso's Alliance 3300	Posted - 2014.05.28 03:42:00 - [160] - Quote Al the destroyer wrote: I don't know you very well Zatara I've played with you a few times and against you a few times that doesn't matter. You feedback on the recent scout changes was impressive to me. I truly felt you had no biased and no agenda. I feel you want what is best for the game. You will have my vote and my support good luck to you I admire your passion for Dust! Thank you very much Al I definitely watched that thread like a hawk. :D The work I put in to advocate for scouts is demonstrative of my commitment to balance issues. It's extremely important we make strides to prevent the buff/nerf endless cycle and promote the intangibles like the cloak in a balanced way so that each class and indeed racial suit boasts a clear advantage that is intangible and prevents power creep, and thus FOTM play. CEO of FA, Candidate for CPM1 Follow me on twitter Skype Zatara.Rought

Firbolg Barun Dust2Dust. Top Men. 37	Posted - 2014.05.28 10:12:00 - [161] - Quote What is your stance on the following: Quote: CPM1 will have limited involvement with Project Legion. ?
Zatara Rought General Tso's Alliance 3306	Posted - 2014.05.28 10:14:00 - [162] - Quote Firbolg Barun wrote: What is your stance on the following: Quote: CPM1 will have limited involvement with Project Legion. ? Tough to have a stance when they state a declaration of intent. CEO of FA, Candidate for CPM1 Follow me on twitter Skype Zatara.Rought
Llast 326 An Arkhos 3297	Posted - 2014.05.28 18:21:00 - [163] - Quote The term Community is an important part of the CPM position, indeed every candidate uses the term at some point. However it is an abstract concept, so what I would like is to hear your definition of community. No right or wrong answers here, just looking to get a better feel of where you are coming from. Very interested in your response here Zatara. KRRROOOOOOM
dy5t0pia The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 521	Posted - 2014.05.28 18:52:00 - [164] - Quote Zatara gets my vote, hands down! CEO Closed Beta Vet
Zatara Rought General Tso's Alliance 3319	Posted - 2014.05.29 02:40:00 - [165] - Quote Thank you! <3 CEO of FA, Candidate for CPM1 Follow me on twitter Skype Zatara.Rought
Zatara Rought General Tso's Alliance 3319	Posted - 2014.05.29 03:27:00 - [166] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: The term Community is an important part of the CPM position, indeed every candidate uses the term at some point. However it is an abstract concept, so what I would like is to hear your definition of community. No right or wrong answers here, just looking to get a better feel of where you are coming from. Very interested in your response here Zatara. I think the other candidates have by this point given various definitions which I share, but I'll just state the definition in my own words. The community are the people. It's a very inclusive word, it is the lynchpin of the game. When I personally think of community in dust514 thought it's like ripples outward from my own character that continues in various circles from the innermost trusted and loyal friends you have made, to various chat channels to participate in, to the forums themselves, and relationships like clans that live on independently despite dust514 being where was created it exnihilo. And we need to make sure we continue to nurture a place where our community can grow and thrive and continue to be a fertile ground where we can continue to watch these relationships happen. I could list endless examples of what i've experienced through interacting with the community in the last 18 months, but suffice it to say that from the moment I met Lt Royal and Baal Roo and was invited to Subdreddit until today I have enjoyed this game and the community that defined it. It's our culture. And culture shapes community. It may not be the circle of life, but it does move us all. <3 CEO of FA, Candidate for CPM1 Follow me on twitter Skype Zatara.Rought
Llast 326 An Arkhos 3330	Posted - 2014.05.29 16:07:00 - [167] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Llast 326 wrote: The term Community is an important part of the CPM position, indeed every candidate uses the term at some point. However it is an abstract concept, so what I would like is to hear your definition of community. No right or wrong answers here, just looking to get a better feel of where you are coming from. Very interested in your response here Zatara. No pressure! I think the other candidates have by this point given various definitions which I share, but I'll just state the definition in my own words. The community are the people. It's a very inclusive word, it is the lynchpin of the game. When I personally think of community in dust514 thought it's like ripples outward from my own character that continues in various circles from the innermost trusted and loyal friends you have made, to various chat channels one participates in, to the forums themselves, and relationships like clans that live on independently despite dust514 being what created it exnihilo. And we need to make sure we continue to nurture a place where our community can grow and thrive and continue to be a fertile ground where we can participate and watch these relationships happen. I could list endless examples of what i've experienced through interacting with the community in the last 18 months, but suffice it to say that from the moment I met Lt Royal and Baal Roo and was invited to Subdreddit until today I have enjoyed this game and the community that defined it. And it is the community that keeps me here. It's our culture. And culture shapes community. It may not be the circle of life, but it does move us all. <3 Nice answer. Didn't mean to put pressure on you You've been vocal in my hideout lately so I was curious about your thoughts on this. KRRROOOOOOM
KILLER 20965 The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 22	Posted - 2014.05.29 17:08:00 - [168] - Quote Nnnnnno lol IS THAT ALL YOU GOT!!! I once owned a district Yes I run logi, got a problem?
Zatara Rought General Tso's Alliance 3320	Posted - 2014.05.29 17:56:00 - [169] - Quote KILLER 20965 wrote: Nnnnnno lol Was the circle of life comment over the top? I am a HUGE Disney nerd. CEO of FA, Candidate for CPM1 Follow me on twitter Skype Zatara.Rought
KenKaniff69 Subdreddit 2406	Posted - 2014.05.30 03:05:00 - [170] - Quote I hope you all will consider Zatara as worthy of your vote for CPM1. I noticed in reading the posts here that he failed to mention he has 60k kills solely on his main character, not to mention his various alts which he uses as well. To my knowledge this is a distinguishing factor among the 'electable' candidates. When it comes to experience and being a nice guy (when not trying to collect tears in the war room), I hope Zatara Rought is at the top of your ticket. Thank You. Markdown:

Zatara Rought General Tso's Alliance 3321	Posted - 2014.05.30 21:39:00 - [171] - Quote Thank you ken. <3 CEO of FA, Candidate for CPM1 Follow me on twitter Skype Zatara.Rought
Zatara Rought General Tso's Alliance 3331	Posted - 2014.06.01 17:13:00 - [172] - Quote I will be on the podcast "Biomassed" tonight! <3 CEO of FA, Candidate for CPM1 Follow me on twitter Skype Zatara.Rought
Ghost Kaisar The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 5075	Posted - 2014.06.03 03:14:00 - [173] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: I will be on the podcast "Biomassed" tonight! <3 Listening to the recording now Will post here again with questions later Headed to Destiny, To Hell with CCP PSN: EVL_Elgost105 RIP Dust514 05/02/14 GG CCP
Zatara Rought General Tso's Alliance 3346	Posted - 2014.06.03 19:46:00 - [174] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: I will be on the podcast "Biomassed" tonight! <3 Listening to the recording now Will post here again with questions later EDIT 1: LOL Zatara's mic cut out in mid talk. Please do. CEO of FA, Candidate for CPM1 Follow me on twitter Skype Zatara.Rought
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 2621	Posted - 2014.06.03 21:18:00 - [175] - Quote Yeah, Zatara's connection was really mean during the podcast, kept coming and going. We made sure Zatara got another chance to finish though. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx Haus of Triage 161	Posted - 2014.06.09 08:21:00 - [176] - Quote Z's got good points. Bump Bump *TRUE LOGi* \|CEO: Haus of Triage\| \|Ringer Hub Creator\| Skype: xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx
RogueTrooper 2000AD RoyaLBanKof 73	Posted - 2014.06.09 13:53:00 - [177] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: 1) Other than the forums how do you intend to collect and communicate requests, needs, POV of the community? In particular, those outside your corp / alliance. Skype (participate in large discussion groups) Twitter Reddit and connections Aside from the forums, I use a few other mediums: Skype Twitter Reddit IRC On Skype, I participate in discussion groups such as GÇÿDust ScussionGÇÖ, the channel that Hans made. I know youGÇÖre in that one, but IGÇÖll describe it a little for those reading who arenGÇÖt GÇô itGÇÖs a very large group channel (120+ people IIRC) where people can have live chats about various DUST topics. ItGÇÖs moderated to stop it from devolving into the type of mud-slinging that the forums unfortunately devolve into all too often, and the discussions there often consist of intelligent and well-thought out comments. People are also free to add me on Skype at Zatara.Rought GÇô IGÇÖd love to hear from you. I use Twitter as well, you can find me here. IGÇÖm quite happy to engage anyone who tweets me here as well. I also read Reddit very frequently. Admittedly I lurk more than I post but IGÇÖm a keen Redditor (I used to be in Subdreddit, actually) and itGÇÖs a medium IGÇÖm very familiar with. And finally I'll be rectifying my long abandoned activity via IRC. IGÇÖm always open to opening more lines of communication though GÇô ultimately, I see communication as probably the most important part of the CPM role. 2) What level of interaction would you like to establish between the CPM and CSM? IGÇÖd love to see us working together and striking an unanimous cord on how to better the link, but there are a lot of difficulties facing both groups for co-operating over that. Currently, the EVE-DUST link is limited. This is an unfortunate reality. TheyGÇÖre not very relevant to one another, neither has a significant impact on the other. So I feel that an expanded link is important for CPM-CSM discussion. To expand that link, itGÇÖs important to get both groups on board with suggestions as each side is likely to have a much better understanding of the impacts on the game theyGÇÖre representing. When DUST and EVE really start to link up I think itGÇÖs very important that any transitions go smoothly, and for that I feel that both the CSM and the CPM need to have discussed changes thoroughly with each other and CCP, to ensure a healthy link. I plan on meeting as many of the CSM candidates (and the ones actually elected, once that gets announced) at Fanfest, which IGÇÖve recently arrived in Iceland for. So to summarise: I think CSM-CPM interaction is very important if the games are ultimately going to have a real, solid link and itGÇÖs important to start building those bridges. 3) What are the top 3 short term (next 2mo's) changes you would encourage CCP to make? I'm looking for concrete examples that are realistic to achieve. PC fixes, a handful of outstanding balance issues, and matchmaking. ItGÇÖs painfully obvious at the moment that PC is a mess. ItGÇÖs popularised as the GÇÿgreat blue donutGÇÖ and for good reason. 100% Molden Heath control is not something I want to see happening for any alliance, and at the moment DNS pretty much holds everything. There are a handful of districts held by OH and WTF (and I have to give serious props to them, theyGÇÖve worked damn hard for them) but thatGÇÖs the exception rather than the rule. There are two changes that I would like to see to PC. The first is a change to clone packs. At the moment, clone packs give you 120 clones and itGÇÖs not feasible to wage a war against decent corps and actually hope to take their districts with that many clones. If you lose 20 clones, you canGÇÖt re-attack. If you canGÇÖt re-attack, itGÇÖs going to cost you a lot more ISK to take that district and itGÇÖs going to be a lot more difficult. Taking districts with clone packs alone is mostly only doable by the elite corps, and I donGÇÖt think thatGÇÖs healthy. The second is a re-shifting of the passive ISK to active ISK balance. At the moment DNS is generating obscene amounts of ISK just by sitting on a load of districts. I think that while there should be a reward for holding districts, it should place an emphasis on active combat rather than passive farming. Previously, there was a change to PC that increased the ISK value of a combat biomassed clone and reduced the value of a passive biomassed clone. I think that needs to go further, as otherwise the economy will end up completely wrecked once it develops because of the huge amounts of ISK weGÇÖre going to be able to throw around. Shifting the balance to favour ISK gain through combat should hopefully have a fairly obvious effect GÇô encouraging actual combat and fighting rather than stagnant GÇÿblue donutsGÇÖ. CONTINUED Ypou admitted right there that you are not fit for CPM. You go everywhere else but the forums to discuss the game properly with a small group of people to talk about what you and that group believes to be the right direction for dust. Also if you felt immersion the most in PC and not fw then you was never even in the larger scale immersion. A pilot dropping OBS in PC is nothing and barely anyone cares. Also if you don't play eve then you lose marks in my book. You are also a blatant fotm chaser so how exactly do you know anything of balance?. Your age dictates that you just want to be special and as such, you don't get my vote. I apologise if you do not appreciate my opinion. Service with a smile
Zatara Rought General Tso's Alliance 3369	Posted - 2014.06.09 14:15:00 - [178] - Quote RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote: Ypou admitted right there that you are not fit for CPM. You go everywhere else but the forums to discuss the game properly with a small group of people to talk about what you and that group believes to be the right direction for dust. Also if you felt immersion the most in PC and not fw then you was never even in the larger scale immersion. A pilot dropping OBS in PC is nothing and barely anyone cares. Also if you don't play eve then you lose marks in my book. You are also a blatant fotm chaser so how exactly do you know anything of balance?. Your age dictates that you just want to be special and as such, you don't get my vote. I apologise if you do not appreciate my opinion. I do? Well that is news to me. I thought I was fairly active on the forums. No i don't formulate my opinions with a small selective group of people. Actually I just today created a thread crowdsourcing feedback about how to fix the assault suit. I can't really comment on your opinion about immersion but suffice it to say I definitely have played fw and PC and PC definitely felt more immersive for numerous reasons. I never felt like I knew the land I was fighting for in FW for example. But I can look on the starmap and tell you exactly where the holyland of MH or Sver Prime used to be. I'm a blatant FOTM chaser? Actually...I have specced into 2 light suits, a heavy suit, a logi suit, and i'm now working on commando. I have every weapon in the game proto on my main aside from some sidearms and scr rifle (which was fotm for a minute) and laser and plasma cannon (only lvl 4 atm, planning on prof 3 this week) Despite tanks becoming Op I have never specced them on my main...despite ads's now being superbly effective I do not have them specced on my main. I don't know how you even know me, and thus have the right to label me. In that respect, do you even know how old I am? I mean my birthday is in a few weeks and I get presents exactly every 6 months if that helps. But yeah suffice it to say I'm prone to quote fox gaden here and label this another illogical detractor. Instead of asking me questions, you made patently false accusations. I strongly encourage you to take another look, that is, unless this is an alt and i'm asting my time, in that case, please refrain from trolling my thread. My candidacy is motivated by my strong urge to help out and do my part in the largest way possible. If being on the CPM is that capacity, then I can promise you I will apply all my faculties in succeeding at it. Good day. CEO of FA, Candidate for CPM1 Follow me on twitter Skype Zatara.Rought
TechMechMeds Inner.Hell 3553	Posted - 2014.06.10 21:07:00 - [179] - Quote I'll vote for you as well as judge. If you stop moving You die Dance with me
Zatara Rought General Tso's Alliance 3399	Posted - 2014.06.12 10:32:00 - [180] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: I'll vote for you as well as judge. Thank you tech. I will need all the support I can get as I do not have a large fanbase from youtube, or bloc support from an alliance, or have great notoriety and community support from being a prolific forum poster. I strongly believe we need to get the ball rolling on fixing assault suits and have sought feedback, feel free to help me out! https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2200816#post2200816 I humbly ask you support my candidacy for CPM1 CEO of FA Skype: Zatara.Rought

RAIDER 04 The Exemplars Top Men. 15	Posted - 2014.06.13 08:04:00 - [181] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Thank you tech. I will need all the support I can get as I do not have a large fanbase from youtube, or bloc support from an alliance, or have great notoriety and community support from being a prolific forum poster. You post often enough... also you did do damn well in the polls don't get a heart attack The Corporate Raiders PAC Endorses Free Tacos Nixon for CPM
Zatara Rought General Tso's Alliance 3408	Posted - 2014.06.14 15:28:00 - [182] - Quote RAIDER 04 wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: Thank you tech. I will need all the support I can get as I do not have a large fanbase from youtube, or bloc support from an alliance, or have great notoriety and community support from being a prolific forum poster. You post often enough... also you did do damn well in the polls don't get a heart attack Polls? wat. I humbly ask you support my candidacy for CPM1 CEO of FA Skype: Zatara.Rought
RAIDER 04 The Exemplars Top Men. 26	Posted - 2014.06.14 20:06:00 - [183] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: RAIDER 04 wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: Thank you tech. I will need all the support I can get as I do not have a large fanbase from youtube, or bloc support from an alliance, or have great notoriety and community support from being a prolific forum poster. You post often enough... also you did do damn well in the polls don't get a heart attack Polls? wat. Those Surveys about a month ago I'll get new versions up when the offical candidate list is up The Corporate Raiders PAC Endorses Free Tacos Nixon for CPM
KenKaniff69 Subdreddit 2412	Posted - 2014.06.15 03:44:00 - [184] - Quote Get your **** together and stop being lazy. Or poke Logibro until you're accepted. Markdown:
Bone Scratcher The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 33	Posted - 2014.06.16 00:35:00 - [185] - Quote DaNizzle4shizle wrote: you just want to be CPM just so you can abuse the knowledge for your corp and alliance. My vote is No. I'm fairly sure that the only reason you voted no was because Dystopia endorses him. Nizzle, you've already abandoned DyCo and have probably managed to enrage a few others. Why make more enemies? Proto FG/HMG Amarr Sentinel. CCP's Problem
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 2135	Posted - 2014.06.21 20:34:00 - [186] - Quote Greetings CPM Candidate! You and your peers are formally invited to attend what will no doubt become a provocative debate on the topic of Scouts! We very much look forward to your participation in said rumble, should you take interest and be so kind as to opine. We do hope you swing by and weigh in: Your Summons, Sir or Madam o7 Shoot scout with yes... - Ripley Riley
Zatara Rought General Tso's Alliance 3478	Posted - 2014.07.02 21:11:00 - [187] - Quote Hey I was approved! I humbly ask you support my candidacy for CPM1 CEO of FA Skype: Zatara.Rought
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11511	Posted - 2014.07.02 23:41:00 - [188] - Quote Seems like you are a serious candidate after all. Given your PC background and enduring drive to get this far I'm seriously considering submitting a vote for you. Granted I am only naming about 4 people in total off all the candidates who I think are worthy of the role as one of the only PC representatives (and yes I know some of the reps have PC experience....but not nearly so much as you) you do bring something new to the table. Just wondering how you intend to approach being a CPM rep if you were voted in? (probably already asked) " We need to reclaim their fates and envelop them in ours. And we need to love them, no matter how much it hurts."
Zatara Rought General Tso's Alliance 3480	Posted - 2014.07.03 00:04:00 - [189] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Seems like you are a serious candidate after all. Given your PC background and enduring drive to get this far I'm seriously considering submitting a vote for you. Granted I am only naming about 4 people in total off all the candidates who I think are worthy of the role as one of the only PC representatives (and yes I know some of the reps have PC experience....but not nearly so much as you) you do bring something new to the table. Just wondering how you intend to approach being a CPM rep if you were voted in? (probably already asked) Thank you for your consideration True. I intend to be enthusiastic, dependable, humble, open minded, and yet unrelenting. I am would operate as a representative should, relaying the communities sentiments while also giving my feedback from my experience when asked. I have a lot of things people have expressed they would like changed if they are willing to do it, but I recognize opportunity costs are a deciding factor. I have often said and will never recede from the idea that being on the CPM is an opportunity to be a conduit for the community, and I having that fixated firmly will enable me to be a successful CPM member. I humbly ask you support my candidacy for CPM1 CEO of FA Skype: Zatara.Rought
Atiim Fooly Cooly. 10144	Posted - 2014.07.03 03:44:00 - [190] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: I thought I was fairly active on the forums. Not as active as some of the "forum warriors" (for lack of better terms), but your still pretty active than most. http://dustsearch.com/stats/Zatara_Rought AVers: The Most Persistent Playerbase in DUST 514 -HAND

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11525	Posted - 2014.07.03 04:06:00 - [191] - Quote Atiim wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: I thought I was fairly active on the forums. Not as active as some of the "forum warriors" (for lack of better terms), but your still pretty active than most. http://dustsearch.com/stats/Zatara_Rought I hate you Atiim....you made me look at my stats...... *"I watched you. From candle to a torch you grew. I'll always remember those days with great affection." - Satja Askarin
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11525	Posted - 2014.07.03 04:09:00 - [192] - Quote Atiim wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: I thought I was fairly active on the forums. Not as active as some of the "forum warriors" (for lack of better terms), but your still pretty active than most. http://dustsearch.com/stats/Zatara_Rought I hate you Atiim....you made me look at my stats...... Ranked #2.....what am I doing with my life...... *"I watched you. From candle to a torch you grew. I'll always remember those days with great affection." - Satja Askarin
Zatara Rought General Tso's Alliance 3482	Posted - 2014.07.03 06:56:00 - [193] - Quote LOL. Reminded me of a Lonely Island song. "What..the hell...am I doing with mah life...Call up my mom and get my cry on...Goto Mickey D's and get my apple pie on" I humbly ask you support my candidacy for CPM1 CEO of FA Skype: Zatara.Rought
Knight Soiaire Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5337	Posted - 2014.07.03 17:00:00 - [194] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Atiim wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: I thought I was fairly active on the forums. Not as active as some of the "forum warriors" (for lack of better terms), but your still pretty active than most. http://dustsearch.com/stats/Zatara_Rought I hate you Atiim....you made me look at my stats...... Ranked #2.....what am I doing with my life...... Yeah, what are you doing with your life? You need to be number one! Try harder. I'm free! /o/
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 237	Posted - 2014.07.08 02:50:00 - [195] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Tallen Ellecon wrote: I have nothing against you personally, but the actions of you and your corp make me doubt you can put the needs of the community before yourself. What actions, specifically, are you referring to? Just excuse that post. It's completely unfair and biased to judge someone based on the intense political metasphere going on in PC. It's easy to try to snipe him over it when the rest of the candidates will never get fielded for a PC match or lead/make a decent team. If anything, him being involved at all is +100 over the rest of the fail candidates. You know, this never stopped being true. if anyone didn't vote for him based on PC politics, you're just a terrible person.


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