DUST Search - Zatara Rought for CPM1

Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:

Deep Shallowness wrote:

Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:

Leave PC?
Do point to where you see FA holding a district. How does one leave PC when they're not in it? Our alliance is in it. We are not.

If you're going to bash on us for being a blue donut and farming districts for a ton of ISK in this thread, you might want to realise that you're bashing on completely the wrong people because guess what? We're not landholders.

Presumably you won't accept that as 'proof' though, because you're going to blindly flail and scream at our alliance tags.

You dodge. Is FA part of DNS? Is DNS locking PC based on a history of abusing faulty mechanics?

As I said, you are blindly judging us based on our alliance tags. This is not a thread about DNS. This is a thread about Zatara. It is your own political bias that has led you to start complaining about DNS abusing mechanics in this thread.

Regardless of how I answer your question, you are either going to crow and make more sweeping generalisations about the entirety of DNS being exploiters or claim that I am wrong, despite your own question being fundamentally flawed and being based off false information.

None of the constituent groups of DNS advocated district locking. None. Zero. Nobody.
You can claim that it's 'BS' all you like but that doesn't change the fact that it is true.


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Deep Shallowness Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 11	Posted - 2014.04.28 07:32:00 - [1] - Quote It's really simple Zatara : You are being judged on your current and past actions. DNS'a actions do not make the game better for the community. Placing excessive ISK in the hands of a few allows them influence over others (see proto in pubs). Letting a few have access to a game mode and denying it others through a mechanic you know full well was not intended is fine for a player, but NOT for a CPM. You are in DNS. I does not matter one bit if you never play a single match in PC. Your corps assets, such as ISK and people and being used by DNS. Even if they do nothing their action to not engage DNS, is still an action in DNS's favor. Being part of a group always implies explicit support of their actions. You cannot be in the Ku Klux Klan and expect people to trust it is only because they happen to own the best library in town and you would like to use it. If you are no benefit to DNS and it is no benefit to you then leave. No CPM member should take part in an activity that hurts the people they are supposed to represent, so I do not trust you to represent me. You just said you support changes to PC. Well how about you actually show us that? Right now. Pull out of DNS and stop supporting PC as it is now. Actions not words.
Deep Shallowness Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 12	Posted - 2014.04.29 18:38:00 - [2] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: II'm a conduit for the community. Plain and simple. That is BS. huge piles of BS. You in no way ARE a conduit for the community. Maybe you SAY you WILL be. But right now, in DUST today you run a corp that supports an alliance that is abusing mechanics in a way that hurts the majority of players. You are not what you say you will be but what you are now. And the you that is now, is not a community focused person.
Deep Shallowness Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 12	Posted - 2014.04.29 21:29:00 - [3] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Meh, It's not worth responding to troll bait from an alt. you seem to like to dismiss those that do not agree with you. So ill ask in simple terms a simple question. Is the district locking that DNS took part in and actively advocated in the past and today good or bad for the games community? Good or bad? no waffle... Good or bad?
Deep Shallowness Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 12	Posted - 2014.04.29 21:45:00 - [4] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: DNS as an alliance has not district locked. Member groups have This is a contradiction. A group made from a subset of groups still constitutes the same group.
Deep Shallowness Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 12	Posted - 2014.04.29 21:50:00 - [5] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: The voices in what would become DNS were the loudest calls for it to be fixed. Voices/ BS. They are not acting. Leave PC. This is the only way to prove as a player or a corp you do not support PC as it is now. Any player who stays, Supports it. its that simple.
Deep Shallowness Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 12	Posted - 2014.04.29 22:00:00 - [6] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Deep Shallowness wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: The voices in what would become DNS were the loudest calls for it to be fixed. Voices/ BS. They are not acting. Leave PC. This is the only way to prove as a player or a corp you do not support PC as it is now. Any player who stays, Supports it. its that simple. Leave PC? Do point to where you see FA holding a district. How does one leave PC when they're not in it? Our alliance is in it. We are not. If you're going to bash on us for being a blue donut and farming districts for a ton of ISK in this thread, you might want to realise that you're bashing on completely the wrong people because guess what? We're not landholders. Presumably you won't accept that as 'proof' though, because you're going to blindly flail and scream at our alliance tags. You dodge. Is FA part of DNS? Is DNS locking PC based on a history of abusing faulty mechanics?
Deep Shallowness Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 12	Posted - 2014.04.29 22:18:00 - [7] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Deep Shallowness wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Leave PC? Do point to where you see FA holding a district. How does one leave PC when they're not in it? Our alliance is in it. We are not. If you're going to bash on us for being a blue donut and farming districts for a ton of ISK in this thread, you might want to realise that you're bashing on completely the wrong people because guess what? We're not landholders. Presumably you won't accept that as 'proof' though, because you're going to blindly flail and scream at our alliance tags. You dodge. Is FA part of DNS? Is DNS locking PC based on a history of abusing faulty mechanics? As I said, you are blindly judging us based on our alliance tags. This is not a thread about DNS. This is a thread about Zatara. It is your own political bias that has led you to start complaining about DNS abusing mechanics in this thread. Regardless of how I answer your question, you are either going to crow and make more sweeping generalisations about the entirety of DNS being exploiters or claim that I am wrong, despite your own question being fundamentally flawed and being based off false information. None of the constituent groups of DNS advocated district locking. None. Zero. Nobody. You can claim that it's 'BS' all you like but that doesn't change the fact that it is true. blah blah blah. Answer the question.
Deep Shallowness Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 12	Posted - 2014.04.29 22:26:00 - [8] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Deep Shallowness wrote: blah blah blah. Answer the question. The answer to your question is no. But you won't accept that. I have a question for you. Who is your main? Nice try at distraction. no main. I don't have time to skip school for that
Deep Shallowness Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 12	Posted - 2014.04.29 22:36:00 - [9] - Quote You said the answer is no. So FA is not in DNS then?
Deep Shallowness Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 12	Posted - 2014.04.29 22:44:00 - [10] - Quote you keep being evasive and trying to dismiss me. I asked a really simple question. which was dodged. Two times. So now my first question has been answered. FA is in DNS. Fine. lets move to question two. Has DNS benefited from district locking?

Deep Shallowness Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 12	Posted - 2014.04.29 22:49:00 - [11] - Quote Since you are evasive and lying about the timeline of DNS entering PC. I'll take that to be a quite clear answer.
Deep Shallowness Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 12	Posted - 2014.04.29 22:51:00 - [12] - Quote Derrith Erador wrote: Deep Shallowness wrote: you keep being evasive and trying to dismiss me. I asked a really simple question. which was dodged. Two times. So now my first question has been answered. FA is in DNS. Fine. lets move to question two. Has DNS benefited from district locking? A phrase comes to mind when addressing people such you. The phrase can be found in many of my panty dropper songs about no more dropping panties, it goes like "how you be trippin, yo". A phrase but for some reason not an answer. Why would that be I wonder?
Deep Shallowness Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 12	Posted - 2014.04.29 22:59:00 - [13] - Quote So just to clarify your views : 1) FA is in DNS. 2) DNS has in no way benefited from the district locking that has happening in the current version of PC. So OP. Is the above summary inline with your view of your corp? and of your alliance?
Deep Shallowness Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 12	Posted - 2014.04.29 23:05:00 - [14] - Quote I now only seek the OPs view on the points you clarified on his behalf. and I and also interested to note that you seek to look down on me just because I'm not in some big corp. Even to the the point of trying to mock me by saying I am an ALT just to make it easier to dismiss my comments. You tired to use that as a point against me. Does the OP support this attitude to newer players trying to break into the game?