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SoTa PoP
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Posted - 2014.04.28 07:51:00 -
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This, is this really real?
This is not the election for California new joke mayor or which Wrestler Minnesota is going to vote in next (+1 to those who figure out why I mention these two states in zatara's defense)
It's a video game election, and you're saying because of his tags, and selective track record, you will judge him?
This is why I have no faith in this community. The only people showing intelligence proves how little they actually have. You're letting the EvE Metasphere dictate how you approach Dust. It's a different Metasphere completely. We're in a tiny region where a corp can only do so much on it's own when it's vastly out numbered by equal skill. But to make a corp to even reach that skill is a feat on it's own, and proof zatara has dedication to this game. A proof that FAR OUT WEIGHTS THE OTHER CANDIDATES. Besides maybe the Dust Uni one.
What does it matter if he's in DNS? The situation he was in to make him join is not comparable to any EvE standards to set a precedence to snipe him over it. No one in EvE gets backed into the corner and forced to leave the game and go play pubs with terrible players all day. Do you guys understand how mind numbing it is playing pubs for competitive players? He kept content for his guys the best way he could, and you can ask nothing more from someone whose leading you.
How you can stand running for CPM, Zatara, I will never know. You're a saint. It will take some time before people see past your tags and into your heart, but when they do, you'll see votes flying in.
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SoTa PoP
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Posted - 2014.04.28 23:16:00 -
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Archer Yorcot wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Some questions and concerns about Zatara may be valid, others, I don't think are so valid. I haven't decided who I'm voting for yet (other then myself, of course), but I urge people not to rush to conclusions. I don't feel being in the dominant landholding alliance is necessarily a capital crime for a CPM candidate. While exploits have been a problem for a pretty large percentage of the PC playerbase, largely speaking, the fault is CCP's failure to create a good game mode, and failure to police those individuals exploiting the system.
If the game is in such a way that allows one to take 100% of it, that's not the player's fault for doing it. Does everyone here expect CPM members to pull their punches in-game? Planetary Conquest is part of the game, and by it's very definition, you're kinda supposed to try and kick people out of it.
I mean, I'm big on PFC, so you know, sometimes I can be a big carebear about getting people into PC and having fun. But it's hard to blame someone for playing the game well. No one is blaming Zatara for playing the game "well." But his assertion that his in-game conduct should have no bearing on his candidacy is fundamentally absurd. His in game conduct is directly responsible for alienating new players, indulging in game breaking exploits, and enabling an alliance which detrimental to the game's development. You hold one point that is true, and can't back it up in regards to Zatara. And that is that you can judge him on choices he's made, however, you're ignoring how he runs his corporation. Are you saying, that by allowing his guys to make the decision to what they've done, that Zatara should take the fall as a person?
In this regard, him giving his guys the option of what path they will be fighting on, was the choice that we wish CCP would give us. This man, has shown that he will listen to you, help you improve your ideas, and then implement them. FA is the proof guys, no one else in this entire game has the commitment to do what he did and make the choices he has. He heard his men out, and made the best moves for them. Even district locking was so that he could keep enough clones so he wouldn't be forced to clone pack - everyone is getting very frustrated with Clone Packs, and many corps have completely burnt out using them - so he did what the cool thing was to do back then, because he had to for his guys.
As a corp leader, Dust is not his concern, but as CPM, it would be, you would see a whole new side of him reaching out to the NPE. This would be a positive move that would help grow the trust between community and CPM. I doubt there are few who take this game as seriously as Zatara. But more then that, he would be a person to break down walls this community has set in itself, such as vet vs casual.
He would also help fix the transparency issue between CPM and Community - not the leakage of NDA, but how well the communication link works. IE. you can expect CPM to reply as best they can to all concerns
Zatara, offers a lot as CPM. To both the community and game mechanics. I implore those judging him on selective track records - ask yourselves - "If I had a competitive team loyal to me, looking up to me to make the right decisions, what would I do for them?" Then ask if it's alright to judge him based on what he thought was right.
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SoTa PoP
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Posted - 2014.04.29 03:25:00 -
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kiarbanor wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Archer Yorcot wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Some questions and concerns about Zatara may be valid, others, I don't think are so valid. I haven't decided who I'm voting for yet (other then myself, of course), but I urge people not to rush to conclusions. I don't feel being in the dominant landholding alliance is necessarily a capital crime for a CPM candidate. While exploits have been a problem for a pretty large percentage of the PC playerbase, largely speaking, the fault is CCP's failure to create a good game mode, and failure to police those individuals exploiting the system.
If the game is in such a way that allows one to take 100% of it, that's not the player's fault for doing it. Does everyone here expect CPM members to pull their punches in-game? Planetary Conquest is part of the game, and by it's very definition, you're kinda supposed to try and kick people out of it.
I mean, I'm big on PFC, so you know, sometimes I can be a big carebear about getting people into PC and having fun. But it's hard to blame someone for playing the game well. No one is blaming Zatara for playing the game "well." But his assertion that his in-game conduct should have no bearing on his candidacy is fundamentally absurd. His in game conduct is directly responsible for alienating new players, indulging in game breaking exploits, and enabling an alliance which detrimental to the game's development. You hold one point that is true, and can't back it up in regards to Zatara. And that is that you can judge him on choices he's made, however, you're ignoring how he runs his corporation. Are you saying, that by allowing his guys to make the decision to what they've done, that Zatara should take the fall as a person? In this regard, him giving his guys the option of what path they will be fighting on, was the choice that we wish CCP would give us. This man, has shown that he will listen to you, help you improve your ideas, and then implement them. FA is the proof guys, no one else in this entire game has the commitment to do what he did and make the choices he has. He heard his men out, and made the best moves for them. Even district locking was so that he could keep enough clones so he wouldn't be forced to clone pack - everyone is getting very frustrated with Clone Packs, and many corps have completely burnt out using them - so he did what the cool thing was to do back then, because he had to for his guys. As a corp leader, Dust is not his concern, but as CPM, it would be, you would see a whole new side of him reaching out to the NPE. This would be a positive move that would help grow the trust between community and CPM. I doubt there are few who take this game as seriously as Zatara. But more then that, he would be a person to break down walls this community has set in itself, such as vet vs casual. He would also help fix the transparency issue between CPM and Community - not the leakage of NDA, but how well the communication link works. IE. you can expect CPM to reply as best they can to all concerns Zatara, offers a lot as CPM. To both the community and game mechanics. I implore those judging him on selective track records - ask yourselves - "If I had a competitive team loyal to me, looking up to me to make the right decisions, what would I do for them?" Then ask if it's alright to judge him based on what he thought was right. So, your argument is that since he did whatever possible for his corporation--no matter the outcome to the rest of the community--he should be commended? And this is because he let his corp members voice their concerns and ultimately make the call? You believe this translates to him listening to the community and making the best decisions for all of us? I'm trying to simplify this; so, please correct me if I simplified it too much. Yes, i am, because it's that simple. He did what he could to help his guys.
What would he do to help this game? Think about the commitment he's shown to what his goals are - now he's saying he wants to be an effective CPM - his track record shows when he sets out to do something he accomplishes it. I can't see how someone who looks after people could be negative on CPM. If you can find a single FA to honestly speak bad of what he's done with FA I'd be surprised.
i trust in his commitment. He's shown it to me first hand. And I hope you will all give him a chance to prove himself.
I'm sure after Fanfest Zatara will really start to show his stuff. For now, I hope I help bring light to his better traits and his situation.
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SoTa PoP
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Posted - 2014.04.29 22:52:00 -
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Deep Shallowness wrote:you keep being evasive and trying to dismiss me. I asked a really simple question. which was dodged. Two times. So now my first question has been answered. FA is in DNS. Fine. lets move to question two.
Has DNS benefited from district locking? No, they haven't.
Stop asking irrelevant questions. If you are an intelligent person you're trying to play yourself off to be then just get your point so the rest of us can move on from how stupid you're making yourself look.
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SoTa PoP
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Posted - 2014.04.29 23:08:00 -
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Deep Shallowness wrote:So just to clarify your views :
1) FA is in DNS.
2) DNS has in no way benefited from the district locking that has happening in the current version of PC.
So OP. Is the above summary inline with your view of your corp? and of your alliance? Okay, that's enough. You might be new to politics but this is old news for me. Setting up a snipe in this form is too easily noticeable and your obvious bias is showing too clearly.
There is no reason to continue to respond to this poster.
I suggest next time you make a point instead of creating 2 pages of passive-agressive trolling, you limit it to a single post with your reasoning and logic why you approach Zatara the way you have.
Have a nice day, peasant.
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