DUST Search - Zatara Rought for CPM1

SoTa PoP wrote:

This, is this really real?

This is not the election for California new joke mayor or which Wrestler Minnesota is going to vote in next (+1 to those who figure out why I mention these two states in zatara's defense)

It's a video game election, and you're saying because of his tags, and selective track record, you will judge him?

This is why I have no faith in this community. The only people showing intelligence proves how little they actually have. You're letting the EvE Metasphere dictate how you approach Dust. It's a different Metasphere completely. We're in a tiny region where a corp can only do so much on it's own when it's vastly out numbered by equal skill. But to make a corp to even reach that skill is a feat on it's own, and proof zatara has dedication to this game. A proof that FAR OUT WEIGHTS THE OTHER CANDIDATES. Besides maybe the Dust Uni one.

What does it matter if he's in DNS? The situation he was in to make him join is not comparable to any EvE standards to set a precedence to snipe him over it. No one in EvE gets backed into the corner and forced to leave the game and go play pubs with terrible players all day. Do you guys understand how mind numbing it is playing pubs for competitive players? He kept content for his guys the best way he could, and you can ask nothing more from someone whose leading you.

How you can stand running for CPM, Zatara, I will never know. You're a saint. It will take some time before people see past your tags and into your heart, but when they do, you'll see votes flying in.


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Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 926	Posted - 2014.04.23 03:44:00 - [1] - Quote Zatara, Glad to see that you've put your hat in the ring for CPM. More candidates that are viable is always the preferable situation and you certainly bring a well known background that will no doubt generate some good discussion and hopefully highlight the pros and cons of your candidacy. One of your biggest strengths and perhaps biggest drawbacks to your CPM run might very well be well known reputation and in-game history. What do you personally see as your biggest personal strengths you can bring to the CPM and what are the traits that might cause the most friction or problems? What would the differences be in Zatara the player vs Zatara the CPM that might surprise folks? Additionally, here are a few questions for you (same as I pose to all candidates): 1) Other than the forums how do you intend to collect and communicate requests, needs, POV of the community? In particular, those outside your corp / alliance. 2) What level of interaction would you like to establish between the CPM and CSM? 3) What are the top 3 short term (next 2mo's) changes you would encourage CCP to make? I'm looking for concrete examples that are realistic to achieve. 4) What are the top 3 mid term (next 6mo's) changes you would encourage CCP to make? 5) In Spring of 2015, when CPM1's term is up, what would you want people to have said about your tenure as a CPM member? 6) Will you be creating a channel for folks to meet and sqd with you during the period before the election? Thank you for your time. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 933	Posted - 2014.04.23 19:36:00 - [2] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Thank you Jaysyn. This is finals week for me so I am quite busy, but I promise to craft a response as soon as i'm able. No problem...good luck with finals. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 951	Posted - 2014.04.28 00:19:00 - [3] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Kiarbanor, .... Stop judging people based on their alliance and start judging them based on who they are. Arkena, That post and the information in it was very appreciated. This is a good illustrator of why i posted the particular questions for Zatara earlier in this thread...there are clearly strong opinions (good and bad) about Zatara and by extension DNS. As for me...my personal concerns come from hearing Zatara on coms going absolutely overboard when things are getting out of hand on more than one occasion and we've had previous business dealings with him that were very difficult to be frank. I am attempting to see how he comports himself as a candidate and give him a fair shot...the game is important enough to do that. Also, I would like to be clear - I do believe that Zatara really does want to help the game and there is no doubt that some of the actions he's supported have helped part of the community. I can't speak to the actual intent or original design of some of those actions. I would also point out that many folks in the community want to genuinely help the game and have a lot of talent but that doesn't mean that they would make excellent CPM members. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 952	Posted - 2014.04.28 08:33:00 - [4] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: This, is this really real? This is not the election for California new joke mayor or which Wrestler Minnesota is going to vote in next (+1 to those who figure out why I mention these two states in zatara's defense) It's a video game election, and you're saying because of his tags, and selective track record, you will judge him? This is why I have no faith in this community. The only people showing intelligence proves how little they actually have. You're letting the EvE Metasphere dictate how you approach Dust. It's a different Metasphere completely. We're in a tiny region where a corp can only do so much on it's own when it's vastly out numbered by equal skill. But to make a corp to even reach that skill is a feat on it's own, and proof zatara has dedication to this game. A proof that FAR OUT WEIGHTS THE OTHER CANDIDATES. Besides maybe the Dust Uni one. What does it matter if he's in DNS? The situation he was in to make him join is not comparable to any EvE standards to set a precedence to snipe him over it. No one in EvE gets backed into the corner and forced to leave the game and go play pubs with terrible players all day. Do you guys understand how mind numbing it is playing pubs for competitive players? He kept content for his guys the best way he could, and you can ask nothing more from someone whose leading you. How you can stand running for CPM, Zatara, I will never know. You're a saint. It will take some time before people see past your tags and into your heart, but when they do, you'll see votes flying in. SoTa, I speak for no one but myself on this - tags matter far less than the individual and on that you are 100% correct. That also doesn't mean that folks should totally ignore that based on their points of view. I don't think anyone can doubt Zatara's individual skill and understanding of Dust. As you pointed out rightly so, FA accomplished more than the majority of Dust corps every have. Again, there are many other factors in play other than that and simple alliance tags. Anyway...my current opinions aren't actually based on anything he may or may not have done with DNS. I've said more than once on the forums that the decision to join with Spero (pre-DNS) was a purely internal FA matter and that was for them to deal with. I do think publicly letting folks know where they stand on the things that DNS Black, head of the DNS Alliance, openly and often touted and what their individual actions actions might be in response is probably a good thing for any candidate to do based on the community reaction. Lastly, in reference to the comment about potentially being forced to go down to the minors so to speak in EVE...that happens in that game as well. Lots of folks that used to be in NulSec aren't anymore because of that very thing. The problem in Dust is that there are simply less viable options in this regard than Eve. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 959	Posted - 2014.04.30 13:58:00 - [5] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: My bad, I was not referring to the same person, I was referring to ealier posts. Don't get me wrong, if I have a list a candidates Zatara is on it..... the question is how far up on it he is. AFAIK he's on the plane to Iceland at the moment. Hopefully once he gets there he'll be able to answer some questions. If you've got any, now is probably the time to ask. Zatara is probably going on my ballot as well. I'm not really sure yet, either. BTW - my main purpose here isn't to convince people of Zatara's glorious perfection and greatness or whatever, it's to respond to people judging him negatively purely based on the alliance tag, especially when that judgement is based on misunderstandings.[/quote] That's a pretty solid reason and I applaud you for it. I do think that a CPM or CSM's corp and alliance affiliations are natural things to consider, however, that should not be any kind of automatic vote / no vote criteria. I would remind you that Zatara has a long history and has had quite a few negative and positive interactions with folks way before DNS came about. My concerns with Zatara had nothing to do with his alliance tags, just previous interactions. I think as a candidate he has a lot of potential and i'm very willing to see how he comports himself during the election and I'll vote for him if I think he is one of the top guys I would personally want talking to CCP on my behalf and communicating to me on behalf of CCP. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen