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Mordecai Sanguine wrote:

Dj grammer wrote:

Aero Yassavi wrote:

Sana Rayya wrote:

Read the bottom: Dropsuit Command Skill Tree Respec confirmed (but only dropsuit command).

Sucks for all those people who wanted to be a Caldari Sentinel but had to go Amarr Sentinel and now have all those wasted points in armor plating and stuff.

I don't understand how CCP can do a Dropsuit Command respec without a Dropsuit Upgrades respec.

Dropsuit Upgrades applies to ALL DROPSUITS. A good amount of people who have been playing this game since close/open beta will be the ones to tell you to max out (or evenly distribute) your skill points in dropsuit upgrades before spending all your skill points into a dropsuit first. A great example would be a player having level 5 armor, shield, and core upgrades or at least at a reasonable level. Hell I did not have the thought to spec into my prototype suit until I had level 4 electronics and engineering along with level 5 core upgrades. I will say it is unfair to compare since I was a Minmatar Logistics user meaning I have spend skill points into both shield extenders and armor plating.

But I do agree with you though, having skill points re-obtained from command and not from upgrades is crazy . Let's just be happy we are getting some kind of respec anyways.

Respec will give us less than 2.5 million SP.

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Dj grammer Red Star. EoN. 154	Posted - 2014.03.12 17:14:00 - [91] - Quote Mordecai Sanguine wrote: Dj grammer wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Sana Rayya wrote: Read the bottom: Dropsuit Command Skill Tree Respec confirmed (but only dropsuit command). Sucks for all those people who wanted to be a Caldari Sentinel but had to go Amarr Sentinel and now have all those wasted points in armor plating and stuff. I don't understand how CCP can do a Dropsuit Command respec without a Dropsuit Upgrades respec. Dropsuit Upgrades applies to ALL DROPSUITS. A good amount of people who have been playing this game since close/open beta will be the ones to tell you to max out (or evenly distribute) your skill points in dropsuit upgrades before spending all your skill points into a dropsuit first. A great example would be a player having level 5 armor, shield, and core upgrades or at least at a reasonable level. Hell I did not have the thought to spec into my prototype suit until I had level 4 electronics and engineering along with level 5 core upgrades. I will say it is unfair to compare since I was a Minmatar Logistics user meaning I have spend skill points into both shield extenders and armor plating. But I do agree with you though, having skill points re-obtained from command and not from upgrades is crazy . Let's just be happy we are getting some kind of respec anyways. Respec will give us less than 2.5 million SP. This is why a lot of people were saving skill points including myself. We were preparing for the worse (which was no respec at all) with tons of us sitting on 20+ million skill points (I'm at 25 soon to be 28 thanks to this upcoming event). I do agree that this respec will give us less than or equal to 2.5 million skill points. Yes there should have been one for weaponry since PEOPLE ARE SWITCHING ROLES CCP!!!!! But at the same time they are using this upcoming event to help with weaponry. The upgrades part, I do not know. That is left up for debate. Again just be happy were getting that less than 2.5 million skill points back. They could had easily said no if it wasn't for the CPMs. Open Beta (12/13/2012) to a 1-year Vet. Have been a Logistics user since Uprising 1.0. Yea that old.
Neo Rinzler Commando Perkone Caldari State 57	Posted - 2014.03.12 17:14:00 - [92] - Quote CHANGE THE GODDAMN CALDARI ASSAULT BONUS It is useless and when most peopel wuld rather keep the current one you knwo theres a problem How about you LISTEN to the community for once eh ?
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 636	Posted - 2014.03.12 17:15:00 - [93] - Quote Neo Rinzler wrote: CHANGE THE GODDAMN CALDARI ASSAULT BONUS It is useless and when most peopel wuld rather keep the current one you knwo theres a problem How about you LISTEN to the community for once eh ? The Caldari Assault is dead. RIP. The mic bubble bug... I yield, CCP will be fixing it SOON. Current ETA 1 year since bug
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 1771	Posted - 2014.03.12 17:15:00 - [94] - Quote Dimitri Rascolovitch wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: No change to Amarr scout bonus. Very disappointed. Suit visual designs look great though! at least it has a mini battle skirt Yeah that little miniskirt will add considerably to the entertainment value when my minnie scout is spanking those Ammarrian scouts on their deep points ;) This is what proxy chat is for: 'Whose your daddy, golden girl?', followed by the final smak that puts their lights out. Ohhhh lord have mercy, the lawls would incapacitate me. I support SP rollover.
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 3206	Posted - 2014.03.12 17:15:00 - [95] - Quote Vespasian Andendare wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: While i agree that the other 2 skill trees need a respec, i cant help but wonder why no one seemed to bother to get their shield upgrades up regardless of the suit you are using. more HP is more HP and its never gonna be a bad thing to have. Bonuses that increase the effectiveness of shield extenders or armor plates literally do nothing when you don't fit a shield extender or armor plate. That's the basis of the Dropsuit Upgrades respec question here. It's not whether +25% base armor and shields are better. Of course they are. They affect every suit. But the skills to get complex armor plates and shield extenders, complex armor repairers and shield regulators provide absolutely no bonus if you don't fit those mods. So, spending sp into building a proto Amarr heavy (with complex tanking gear) is wasted when someone wanted to build a complex Caldari heavy all along. Very few people are running pure shield or armor. I see Caldari suits with 500+ armor and Gallente stacking shield extenders. You may stop running complex regulators or armor repairers if you cross-train into something focused on the opposite defensive systems but I highly doubt people will be completely abandoning hybrid tanking. The armor and shield skills are some of the easiest to cross train and the rest of the Upgrades tree is useful across a wide range of suits. Adapt or Die // Republic Lance Commander // @ReesNoturana
Echo 1991 WarRavens League of Infamy 110	Posted - 2014.03.12 17:17:00 - [96] - Quote Neo Rinzler wrote: CHANGE THE GODDAMN CALDARI ASSAULT BONUS It is useless and when most peopel wuld rather keep the current one you knwo theres a problem How about you LISTEN to the community for once eh ? its not useless you just think its useless because you dont like it. if you use the right guns its actually a very useful skill.
Roy Ventus Axis of Chaos 1311	Posted - 2014.03.12 17:17:00 - [97] - Quote Neo Rinzler wrote: CHANGE THE GODDAMN CALDARI ASSAULT BONUS It is useless and when most peopel wuld rather keep the current one you knwo theres a problem How about you LISTEN to the community for once eh ? Why is it bad? Doesn't it make sense on the battlefield? The weapon with the best range that sucks in CQC(or should) used to play keep away having a bonus that will allow you to have a shorter down time from consecutive fire? "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
Vespasian Andendare Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 626	Posted - 2014.03.12 17:17:00 - [98] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: so what is caldari heavy gonna put in that low slot then? a regulator? 1 second recharge delay (which is so broken) so probably not. im fairly certain that a cal heavy will use a repper so they dont die once all the shields are gone. A regulator is a fantastic idea. Or a scan precision enhancer. Or a kincat. Or hell, even a fitting mod. There's many options for low slots, but the point being is that it's not a foregone conclusion that only an armor mod is going to go in the lows. In fact, I have been waiting to run a Caldari or Minmatar heavy suit with all kincats in the lows. It'll be nice to be able to speed mod a heavy suit and still have room for a tank in the highs. Up until now it was impossible unless you gimped your Amarr heavy suit for the lols. >> Play Dust 514 FREE! Sign up for exclusive gear today! <<
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 3206	Posted - 2014.03.12 17:17:00 - [99] - Quote Dj grammer wrote: This is why a lot of people were saving skill points including myself. I give up. It's pointless to argue with them. They'd rather just cry about it being unfair. We'll see the same whine every time the smallest weapon or module is added or changed. Adapt or Die // Republic Lance Commander // @ReesNoturana
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7333	Posted - 2014.03.12 17:18:00 - [100] - Quote Neo Rinzler wrote: CHANGE THE GODDAMN CALDARI ASSAULT BONUS It is useless and when most peopel wuld rather keep the current one you knwo theres a problem How about you LISTEN to the community for once eh ? That's your opinion. Just because you think the bonus is stupid, it doesn't mean everyone else has to agree with you. Also, what bonus would you suggest that doesn't marginalize or take away from the other suits of its class? Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor

Dj grammer Red Star. EoN. 155	Posted - 2014.03.12 17:19:00 - [101] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: Dj grammer wrote: This is why a lot of people were saving skill points including myself. I give up. It's pointless to argue with them. They'd rather just cry about it being unfair. We'll see the same whine every time the smallest weapon or module is added or changed. Point made. "You cannot please everyone." +1 Open Beta (12/13/2012) to a 1-year Vet. Have been a Logistics user since Uprising 1.0. Yea that old.
Echo 1991 WarRavens League of Infamy 110	Posted - 2014.03.12 17:20:00 - [102] - Quote Vespasian Andendare wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: so what is caldari heavy gonna put in that low slot then? a regulator? 1 second recharge delay (which is so broken) so probably not. im fairly certain that a cal heavy will use a repper so they dont die once all the shields are gone. A regulator is a fantastic idea. Or a scan precision enhancer. Or a kincat. Or hell, even a fitting mod. There's many options for low slots, but the point being is that it's not a foregone conclusion that only an armor mod is going to go in the lows. In fact, I have been waiting to run a Caldari or Minmatar heavy suit with all kincats in the lows. It'll be nice to be able to speed mod a heavy suit and still have room for a tank in the highs. Up until now it was impossible unless you gimped your Amarr heavy suit for the lols. why waste the low slot on a shield module that isnt needed? you will recharge almost instantaneously as it is so why not fit an armour repper to make sure that you have armour regen?
Pvt Numnutz R 0 N 1 N 941	Posted - 2014.03.12 17:21:00 - [103] - Quote The caldari heavy frame......I must have jizzed like ten times now! Such an awesome suit! That helmet is so freaking cool! I think I'm going to have all of my shock troopers wear those, it just screams hell jumper to me!!! I'm very excited for 1.8 and look forward to remnants blog and patch notes. Keep up the good work!
DaNizzle4shizle Pradox XVI Proficiency V. 691	Posted - 2014.03.12 17:22:00 - [104] - Quote Locked For Duplicate Thread. -CCP Lockingbro. Thats new^ I strive for Greatness. I am the merc that I am today because of all the trials I have been through.
Twelve Guage Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 100	Posted - 2014.03.12 17:22:00 - [105] - Quote Why does the Am-heavy get more armor then the Min-heavy? I think i'm just confused on how that works. Death Firm recruiter and sandwiches maker.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7334	Posted - 2014.03.12 17:24:00 - [106] - Quote I still think it would've been hilarious to give the Gallente Heavy a melee damage bonus. #Giant #Grean #Hulk #SmashingThings Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Kigurosaka Laaksonen DUST University Ivy League 596	Posted - 2014.03.12 17:24:00 - [107] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: We'll see the same whine every time the smallest weapon or module is added or changed. There is still so much to be added and changed. DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/ EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
Marc Rime 309	Posted - 2014.03.12 17:25:00 - [108] - Quote I see minmatar assault lost its 1hp/sec armour repair. Has there been any word on why? Or what it gets instead?
Sana Rayya WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 982	Posted - 2014.03.12 17:27:00 - [109] - Quote It's a shame that it's Dropsuit Command only. If Dropsuit Upgrades were respecced I'd have about 3.4 mil SP extra to play with (liquidating active scanners/repair tools/armor repairer/kin cats/shield rechargers/regulators). If Weaponry was respecced as well, that'd be another 2.8 mil, from AR + proficiency/sub skills, ScR operation, and Swarm Launcher operation. If I did have that SP freed up it'd probably go into assault dropships, since they can be very useful in decimating the high spawn points that are often the key to winning battles.
thecoolest guy Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 7	Posted - 2014.03.12 17:28:00 - [110] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Will the Dragonfly/Valor scout suits remain as G-1's with the new slot layouts? Any clarification on this?

Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7476	Posted - 2014.03.12 17:30:00 - [111] - Quote ] Reav Hannari wrote: We'll see the same whine every time the smallest weapon or module is added or changed. Not true at all, but whatever helps your point I guess. There is a difference between core content and new content. "You're not even Aero, you're just Aero's friend."
ChromeBreaker SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1658	Posted - 2014.03.12 17:33:00 - [112] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Slash Frenzy wrote: Giving just a dropsuit respec was the right decision. +1 I did not play heavy suit until now but, are the stats for the basic heavy suits missing from the blog post or am I just overlooking them? Basic heavy suits have the same base stats as the Sentinel, but no role or skill bonus. Soooo whats the point in the basic heavy?? The answer is "ForgeGun"... doesnt matter what the question is...
Echo 1991 WarRavens League of Infamy 110	Posted - 2014.03.12 17:34:00 - [113] - Quote ChromeBreaker wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Slash Frenzy wrote: Giving just a dropsuit respec was the right decision. +1 I did not play heavy suit until now but, are the stats for the basic heavy suits missing from the blog post or am I just overlooking them? Basic heavy suits have the same base stats as the Sentinel, but no role or skill bonus. Soooo whats the point in the basic heavy?? i think slot layout is different, i know it is atm.
Roy Ventus Axis of Chaos 1311	Posted - 2014.03.12 17:34:00 - [114] - Quote Sana Rayya wrote: It's a shame that it's Dropsuit Command only. If Dropsuit Upgrades were respecced I'd have about 3.4 mil SP extra to play with (liquidating active scanners/repair tools/armor repairer/kin cats/shield rechargers/regulators). If Weaponry was respecced as well, that'd be another 2.8 mil, from AR + proficiency/sub skills, ScR operation, and Swarm Launcher operation. If I did have that SP freed up it'd probably go into assault dropships, since they can be very useful in decimating the high spawn points that are often the key to winning battles. Wait wait... Who in their right mind would give up Armor Repair? No matter what tank you're doing armor repair is useful. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
Neo Rinzler Commando Perkone Caldari State 59	Posted - 2014.03.12 17:38:00 - [115] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: Neo Rinzler wrote: CHANGE THE GODDAMN CALDARI ASSAULT BONUS It is useless and when most peopel wuld rather keep the current one you knwo theres a problem How about you LISTEN to the community for once eh ? its not useless you just think its useless because you dont like it. if you use the right guns its actually a very useful skill. Rail Rifle Sniper Rifle .. SL .. umm SL is useless die to 1.7 nerfs ... RR and SR .. umm .. I never have an issue where I think to myself . I wish this reloaded faster .. assault suits have .. sidearms ... Useful skill if you were minmatar or gallente with rapid fire weapons like the CR/AR but .. RR and SR ?? It's like giving a reload bonus to the amarr suit .. SCR just don't have reloading issues It's a **** bonus and you know it
NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 272	Posted - 2014.03.12 17:39:00 - [116] - Quote What!! Reading... Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1. Original ROF needs to return!
Vilaskis Shalashev LUX AETERNA INT RUST415 175	Posted - 2014.03.12 17:39:00 - [117] - Quote Cool! I wait 25.03 .... Wait... Wait... Wait... And i wait new dev-blog You find CCP in DUST514 for hunt?!
jerrmy12 kahoalii Pradox XVI Proficiency V. 497	Posted - 2014.03.12 17:40:00 - [118] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Sana Rayya wrote: Read the bottom: Dropsuit Command Skill Tree Respec confirmed (but only dropsuit command). Sucks for all those people who wanted to be a Caldari Sentinel but had to go Amarr Sentinel and now have all those wasted points in armor plating and stuff. I don't understand how CCP can do a Dropsuit Command respec without a Dropsuit Upgrades respec. I already have max shuekds Thanks ccp! Closed beta vet Logi, Heavy, Python, Scout.
Supernus Gigas Star Giants 440	Posted - 2014.03.12 17:40:00 - [119] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: I still think it would've been hilarious to give the Gallente Heavy a melee damage bonus. #Giant #Grean #Hulk #SmashingThings No thanks. It wouldn't be able to make any use of the extra damage with MyroStims because it only has one high slot. *FIRE UP THE HEAVY MEAT GRINDER! WE'RE HAVIN' CLONE BURGERS TONIGHT, BOYS!*
Vell0cet SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1058	Posted - 2014.03.12 17:41:00 - [120] - Quote The Amarr scout is a joke. I was looking forward to running this suit since fanfest 2013, but there's no way I'm sinking SP into this turd. It's slower than the Minmatar ASSAULT for f*cksakes. Nobody wants to run slowly for a very long time. Whoever is responsible for this should be embarrassed. On the plus side it looks pretty awesome. Why was all of our well-articulated feedback ignored? Best PvE idea ever!



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