To the QQ respec bodies, they didnt change the upgrades, that is why they are still choices YOU made. the suit command respec is because the choices we originally made are no longer available in the form that we chose them in. That's pretty much a complete 180* from their 'make your choices and live with them' quote. Dropsuit upgrades should mostly be maxed out anyways regardless of class.

Does minmatar commando give bonus' to RE's or just Mass Drivers?
Thinking about Commando Minefields and how much joy they will bring to tanks.

Or, you know, give resistances against anti-armor weapons when your suit is mostly armor and resistances against anti-shield weapons when your suit is mostly shields.


Which makes more sense now?

I can't wait for this patch

I'm excited, there will be specialized logi bros now. Not just scrublogis with scanners. I for one am gonna have a ammo logi doing ammo drops from my dropship. other things happen with that but thats my new idea for when my scout suit dies from an excruciatingly long TTK. Hope the hit detection is less broke so players cant abuse the mess it is now to dance through bullets and call it 'gun game'. I'm asking for too much my bad.

Good news, the well deserved respec.

The bad news, how fully i am going to take advantage of it. Also when it came to player feedback everything was ignored so far but the respec. (i am willing to becorrected on this) I want to give the CPM some credit where credit is due, but they also successfully convinced CCP to get rid of my Minie logi hacking bonus in exchange for repping an extra 5 meters away , so they can still burn. This doesn't bode well for proposed the equipment nerf fellow logi bros.

The ugly news? None of the concept designs of the new heavy or light suit have been changed for over a year. Thanks to CCP Rouge, previously i guess CCP couldn' t be friggin bothered to put em in. I guess the racial vehicles are stuck under the same clogged pipeline.

The assault bonuses seem great like:
Gallente Proto assault with a 25 percent reduction in hip fire dispersion? That plus the rail rifle, plus proficiency, plus auto aim is going to be the next FOTM for sure. Litterally you can't miss.

Minmatar proto assault with an extra 1/4 of aclip. Extended mag, yes!

Also noticed no resistance to scrambler rifles.

Over all, i'm bit intrigued, but still INCREDIBLY bitter about losing my hack skills The choice between proto scout and proto logi well, aint no choice at all. And still worried that my equipment is going to be slammed to peices and thus making the OP FOTM Slayer aka no side arm needed Winmatar logi, obsolete. Nothing says logi like using rep tool as far away from you buddies as possible. (okay gallente's is wore but they get more slotsand mor health so....)

SEROUSLY CCP ????????
This is terribly ****.
Damn, guys i don't stop defending you and you...just ****** up everything.

First : Amarr bonus still STUPID. Stamina amount bonus is way too low, the frame is too slow to be able to use this Stamina, and improving Speed means losing cardiac regulator (The bonus is way too low, a regulator is still a "must-have" since the bonus is lower than a Militia.). So you ask us to waste AT LEAST two low slots.....

Second : Skill point refunded ONLY in dropsuit Command ? Oh wait SERIOUSLY ????
This is STUPID How the **** are we supposed to change roles now ?
I was going to go for Commandos while i was Logistics.
Do you ever realize how far this is totally stupidity and how this makes us IMPOSSIBLE to change Roles ?

So it means a definitive Loss of :
6 Million SP in equipements. (I knew i shouldn't use equipemetns and play Slayer Logi...it would had make me save 6 million SP...Next time i play like a jerk since CCP penalize Logi and awards slayer Logi)
2 Millions in secondary Weapon. (Scrambler Pistol.)
500.000SP in modules totally USELESS on Commandos suits. (Profile)
1 Million into Vehicules and Turrets (Which i'm not gonna use anymore (Farewell Saga-2.)
1 Million into shield modules which is useless on Amarr Commando Suit.
4/5Million Sp into weapon i'm not going to use on my Amarr Commando because they don't have bonus with it (mass driver / Plasma cannon / Swarm launcher ).

So in the end you Refund us...less than 2 million SP ??? And One more with the event ? It's not even enough to get my Commando.

Farewell CCP, like lot of us.

I want to give the CPM some credit where credit is due, but they also successfully convinced CCP to get rid of my Minie logi hacking bonus in exchange for reaping an extra 5 meters away , so they can still burn.

I just feel bad for my friend who wants to be a Minmatar commando. He maxed out all of his AR skills before the CR came out and got proto Caldari assault.

While he can get proto commando with the Dropsuit Command refund he won't have the SP back from all that he put into the AR to put into the CR like he would prefer.

Oh and when I say he maxed out his AR skills I really do mean he maxed them all out, I think it's a bit over 1/3 of his total SP. Now it is all in a weapon he no longer wants and doesn't go with the suit that he desires.

No change to Amarr scout bonus. Very disappointed.

Suit visual designs look great though!

it says the minmatar heavy frame is based on a "Deep-core construction exoskeleton". is this a reference to the MTAC?

Why are you only offering a Dropsuit Command respec when you changed practically all of the suits roles to affect a certain weapon?

For example if I was originally an Amarr Assault user with a Scrambler Rifle, but I switch to the Minmatar Commando, why would I need Scrambler Rifles when my bonus revolves around the Combat Rifle? And If I'm an Amarr Sentinel, and I decide to use an Amarr Scout instead, why am I forced to keep SP that I will literally never use again?

What we invest into Dropsuit Upgrades is also dependent on what we invest in Dropsuit Command. If I use a Minmatar frame, but then decide to switch to Gallente Frames I'll have no use for shield based modules such as Regulators and Energizers; and vice versa for Amarr & Gallente suit users that switch to a Caldari or Minmatar frame.

Why is this happening? Did you not read through the numerous threads and arguments withing your official respec discussion thread as to why we need an entire Infantry respec? Heck, I know you read them because you locked practically all of them.

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Does our feedback and opinion not matter? Are you incapable of listening to us? Why do we even bother using the forums if the only way for you to even acknowledge our feedback / concern is through the CPM, which isn't even a reliable source because the only way to get even the tiniest droplet of relevant information out of them is to go on a goose hunt through Skype or pray that they are on IRC, which is an unofficial source that is not moderated by CCP. There is no "hey go visit IRC" or "Contact us on Skype" messages of any kind on these forums or in-game, so why do you expect they community to use this method?

What about that whole hype machine you set up about CCP Rouge? Didn't you say that under his command things would be changing, and how CCP would be more open about things such as feedback? What happened to that? You pulled literally the exact same thing you said was going to change.

1. Announce huge thing that changes DUST 514 as we know.
2. The playerbase points out all of the problems with your changes with truckloads of detailed arguments and posts.
3. You do little to nothing about it, and then release the changes anyways.

I will admit though. You did have the playerbase fooled quite well with that official respec thread you created. It actually put us under the illusion that our feedback, suggestions, and opinions were actually worth something in your development process this time.

Do you not realize the opportunity you missed here? You had the chance to change the public's image of CCP. If you gave a full respec, Tranquility would have been flooded with returning veterans and players, just waiting to throw cash at you. But instead, you had to go with your unprofessional, and unconventional development process that ensures that very few (if any) gamers will ever take you seriously.

SoonGäó may have been funny back in 1.0, but now it's just overplayed and downright stupid.
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-HAND

I find it equally interesting that you think that your opinion is the only one that matters and the only one that should have been heard. Just saying.

But I love my Caldari Assault dropsuit with my sweet Assault Scrambler Rifle and my Flaylock!!!! Now it's going to be everything Caldari or Amarr in one fitting! It's boring....

-XOXO