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Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2640	Posted - 2014.03.12 16:02:00 - [31] - Quote Texs Red wrote: Caldari assault bonus remained the same, despite community dislike for it. Same goes for the Gallente assault bonus too, it only helps one of the Gallente weapons and either hurts or doesn't help all of the rest. I am loving the new content but it seems like no changes were made based on community feedback. Well, they did up the bonus for the Caldari assault bonus. The rail rifle is still going to be to good in CQC. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Kigurosaka Laaksonen DUST University Ivy League 592	Posted - 2014.03.12 16:03:00 - [32] - Quote The concept art in the Dev Blog for the CalSent looks much better than the older stuff. "Minmatar Sentinel: Based upon a deep-core construction exoskeleton..." lol peasants. Get back to work. DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/ EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
Kigurosaka Laaksonen DUST University Ivy League 592	Posted - 2014.03.12 16:04:00 - [33] - Quote KatanaPT wrote: I have just one question, if i go Caldari heavy instead of Amarr heavy, what will happen to the hundreds of suits i have? Are they going to be recycled into Isk like the skillbooks? No. Deal with it. Maybe you'll keep more liquid ISK available in the future instead of tying it up into assets when WE HAVE NO PLAYER MARKET. DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/ EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
Vespasian Andendare Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 621	Posted - 2014.03.12 16:06:00 - [34] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Sucks for all those people who wanted to be a Caldari Sentinel but had to go Amarr Sentinel and now have all those wasted points in armor plating and stuff. I don't understand how CCP can do a Dropsuit Command respec without a Dropsuit Upgrades respec. Actually, I have to echo this concern. Since Amarr sentinel (but really, all heavy suits until 1.8) had to be Amarr, it really doesn't sit right that the tanking skills aren't being refunded. Now, more than ever, it's possible to see the full spectrum of what is offered in game. Now, it's (and will be very soon with 1.8) possible to pick "just" Caldari, with all that Caldari has to offer--from scout, to mediums, to heavy to weapons and beyond. So, why not let us have a skill point reallocation so we can invest our SP where it'd mean the most to us? Why not offer a respec so we can specialize into what we would have done if the game had launched with these options on Day 1? These new suits and general changes to better reflect racial specializations are awesome, CCP. But you guys have to make this right. >> Play Dust 514 FREE! Sign up for exclusive gear today! <<
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 1040	Posted - 2014.03.12 16:06:00 - [35] - Quote Ouch... only a drop suit command is gonna hurt. Join the Channel - CPM1 Candidates - Get to know who's running. Delt for CPM1
KatanaPT Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 567	Posted - 2014.03.12 16:08:00 - [36] - Quote Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote: KatanaPT wrote: I have just one question, if i go Caldari heavy instead of Amarr heavy, what will happen to the hundreds of suits i have? Are they going to be recycled into Isk like the skillbooks? No. Deal with it. Maybe you'll keep more liquid ISK available in the future instead of tying it up into assets when WE HAVE NO PLAYER MARKET. Dude chill, it was a valid question. Go take your rage meds or something. Tech Guard Recruiting Spot
Dimitri Rascolovitch The Immortal Knights 123	Posted - 2014.03.12 16:12:00 - [37] - Quote Vespasian Andendare wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Sucks for all those people who wanted to be a Caldari Sentinel but had to go Amarr Sentinel and now have all those wasted points in armor plating and stuff. I don't understand how CCP can do a Dropsuit Command respec without a Dropsuit Upgrades respec. Actually, I have to echo this concern. Since Amarr sentinel (but really, all heavy suits until 1.8) had to be Amarr, it really doesn't sit right that the tanking skills aren't being refunded. Now, more than ever, it's possible to see the full spectrum of what is offered in game. Now, it's (and will be very soon with 1.8) possible to pick "just" Caldari, with all that Caldari has to offer--from scout, to mediums, to heavy to weapons and beyond. So, why not let us have a skill point reallocation so we can invest our SP where it'd mean the most to us? Why not offer a respec so we can specialize into what we would have done if the game had launched with these options on Day 1? These new suits and general changes to better reflect racial specializations are awesome, CCP. But you guys have to make this right. while this is true, NOTHING stopped you from spending skill points on the other skills for shields, so i feel the dropsuit respec is more than enough. you could have spent points on extenders I did, and i intend to remain an amarr heavy. ...Yeah, i use a heavy machine gun, and I think i do a Damn good job at it. i eat babies forum warrior Lv0
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 418	Posted - 2014.03.12 16:14:00 - [38] - Quote KatanaPT wrote: Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote: KatanaPT wrote: I have just one question, if i go Caldari heavy instead of Amarr heavy, what will happen to the hundreds of suits i have? Are they going to be recycled into Isk like the skillbooks? No. Deal with it. Maybe you'll keep more liquid ISK available in the future instead of tying it up into assets when WE HAVE NO PLAYER MARKET. Dude chill, it was a valid question. Go take your rage meds or something. Burn through them this weekend.. That's what the Million Clone event is for... I finally get it. Shrewd of you CCP.. Very shrewd. xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own... So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2640	Posted - 2014.03.12 16:16:00 - [39] - Quote Supernus Gigas wrote: The Gallente Heavy looks like a goddamn fetus. What happened to crazy eyes? EDIT: It does sort of resemble the Eva helmet from Halo 3 though. But more fetus than that. I don't know about fetus, but the eyes were cool. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
KatanaPT Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 567	Posted - 2014.03.12 16:17:00 - [40] - Quote ResistanceGTA wrote: KatanaPT wrote: Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote: KatanaPT wrote: I have just one question, if i go Caldari heavy instead of Amarr heavy, what will happen to the hundreds of suits i have? Are they going to be recycled into Isk like the skillbooks? No. Deal with it. Maybe you'll keep more liquid ISK available in the future instead of tying it up into assets when WE HAVE NO PLAYER MARKET. Dude chill, it was a valid question. Go take your rage meds or something. Burn through them this weekend.. That's what the Million Clone event is for... I finally get it. Shrewd of you CCP.. Very shrewd. Thats a very good answer and solution, Resistance. Thank you. Indeed very shrewd hehe. Tech Guard Recruiting Spot

Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 983	Posted - 2014.03.12 16:18:00 - [41] - Quote Dimitri Rascolovitch wrote: While this is true, NOTHING stopped you from spending skill points on the other skills for shields, so i feel the dropsuit respec is more than enough. you could have spent points on extenders I did, and i intend to remain an amarr heavy. Yeah! Why didn't you buy skills that didn't have any immediate value to your build because of possible dropsuits that you couldn't have know the release date for!? Ya dummy? "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
Slash Frenzy R 0 N 1 N 26	Posted - 2014.03.12 16:20:00 - [42] - Quote Giving just a dropsuit respec was the right decision. +1 I did not play heavy suit until now but, are the stats for the basic heavy suits missing from the blog post or am I just overlooking them?

CCP Logibro C C P C C P Alliance 5860	Posted - 2014.03.12 16:22:00 - [43] - Quote Slash Frenzy wrote: Giving just a dropsuit respec was the right decision. +1 I did not play heavy suit until now but, are the stats for the basic heavy suits missing from the blog post or am I just overlooking them? Basic heavy suits have the same base stats as the Sentinel, but no role or skill bonus. CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics

Kigurosaka Laaksonen DUST University Ivy League 592	Posted - 2014.03.12 16:22:00 - [44] - Quote KatanaPT wrote: Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote: KatanaPT wrote: I have just one question, if i go Caldari heavy instead of Amarr heavy, what will happen to the hundreds of suits i have? Are they going to be recycled into Isk like the skillbooks? No. Deal with it. Maybe you'll keep more liquid ISK available in the future instead of tying it up into assets when WE HAVE NO PLAYER MARKET. Dude chill, it was a valid question. Go take your rage meds or something. You thought that was raging? I should've just called you a moron with no caps and left it at that rather than hint at the fact that you shouldn't be buying 100 suits at once when there's no incentive over buying suits as you need them. Aero Yassavi wrote: Sucks for all those people who wanted to be a Caldari Sentinel but had to go Amarr Sentinel and now have all those wasted points in armor plating and stuff. I don't understand how CCP can do a Dropsuit Command respec without a Dropsuit Upgrades respec. Should say "Sucks for all those people who will likely be getting 2.75m SP tops to put where they like." DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/ EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
IgniteableAura Pro Hic Immortalis 664	Posted - 2014.03.12 16:24:00 - [45] - Quote Im not happy with the way the respect option is working. These changes effect much more than the racial suit you are using. If someone is changing their assault suit it means they also need to change their weapon. If they change their commando suit, they also need to change their weapon. If they are changing logistics suits they have to change their equipment. If they are changing roles entirely they will need a whole different set of skills. If a minmitar logisitics still wants to be a hacker, they will need to completely change their roles, needing damps, cloak, and no longer likely needs repair tools that most logistics guys have. All of these things are huge SP sinks and will take months to become sufficient in your new role. While I am glad we get a partial respec, it flies in the face of what you did for the vehicle respec. Most people with low SP spent ALL of their SP in upgrade that result in a direct correlation to their role. I bet most people with less than 15mil SP have a single dropsuit up to prototype. Which is really going to punish these players. I am going to send in a support ticket to get all of my SP refunded. I suggest everyone else do that same. PHI Recruitment or PHIsh Tank in game Youtube
Vespasian Andendare Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 621	Posted - 2014.03.12 16:25:00 - [46] - Quote Dimitri Rascolovitch wrote: while this is true, NOTHING stopped you from spending skill points on the other skills for shields, so i feel the dropsuit respec is more than enough. you could have spent points on extenders I did, and i intend to remain an amarr heavy. Right, but you're conveniently leaving out that if these choices were available on Day 1, no Caldari heavy would have spent tons of SP to get complex plates or armor repairers. But, that sp is necessary to be competitive as an Amarr heavy. So, while your argument is absolutely true, relatively speaking it fails. Where in one case, a Caldari sentinel would have just spent the SP getting a complex shield tank (and freed up the other sp into weapons, fitting, etc.), that same Caldari sentinel had to spend sp into an armor tank, because the only heavy suits available were Amarr, who aren't even hi/low slot balanced, so you could at least argue choice-of-tank options. >> Play Dust 514 FREE! Sign up for exclusive gear today! <<
KatanaPT Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 567	Posted - 2014.03.12 16:26:00 - [47] - Quote Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote: KatanaPT wrote: Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote: KatanaPT wrote: I have just one question, if i go Caldari heavy instead of Amarr heavy, what will happen to the hundreds of suits i have? Are they going to be recycled into Isk like the skillbooks? No. Deal with it. Maybe you'll keep more liquid ISK available in the future instead of tying it up into assets when WE HAVE NO PLAYER MARKET. Dude chill, it was a valid question. Go take your rage meds or something. You thought that was raging? I should've just called you a moron with no caps and left it at that rather than hint at the fact that you shouldn't be buying 100 suits at once when there's no incentive over buying suits as you need them. Aero Yassavi wrote: Sucks for all those people who wanted to be a Caldari Sentinel but had to go Amarr Sentinel and now have all those wasted points in armor plating and stuff. I don't understand how CCP can do a Dropsuit Command respec without a Dropsuit Upgrades respec. Should say "Sucks for all those people who will likely be getting 2.75m SP tops to put where they like." Dude, i say again, it was a valid question and i was polite about it. I understand you could be someone who loves to argue online or a raging hormonal teen, but next time a simple "No, im afraid not", would suffice. It helps when discussing important things here, online, and in real life. Wont continue interacting with someone as petty as you. Tech Guard Recruiting Spot
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 418	Posted - 2014.03.12 16:27:00 - [48] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Dimitri Rascolovitch wrote: While this is true, NOTHING stopped you from spending skill points on the other skills for shields, so i feel the dropsuit respec is more than enough. you could have spent points on extenders I did, and i intend to remain an amarr heavy. Yeah! Why didn't you buy skills that didn't have any immediate value to your build because of possible dropsuits that you couldn't have know the release date for!? Ya dummy? I've gotten 0 bonus out of my Shield Recharging being to 5, but, when the new suits were announced, I knew I was getting a Minmatar Assault suit no matter what, so, I invested (after having the points for the suit) into my shield skills. Likewise, I think we should have the option to get those points back. I'm a Logi first and foremost, but, I'll probably only run 3 regular equipment +REs now with the equipment nerf, having everything to 5 seems silly. At the same time, I still have a Dren Heavy, so I'd probably have to reinvest in Armor skills anyway. I'm content at this point. Plus, you never know, maybe CCP will announce Dropsuit Upgrades are getting refunded when the Equipment DevBlog drops. xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own... So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
Maximus Stryker Who Are Those Guys 845	Posted - 2014.03.12 16:31:00 - [49] - Quote *Faction Channels for FW Staging* PIE Ground Control \| Caldari Hierarchy \| Turalyon \| Chosen Matari
Aeon Amadi Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 5186	Posted - 2014.03.12 16:34:00 - [50] - Quote Kinda concerned that the Gallente Commando isn't going to hold it's weight against the Amarr Commando. Bonus is nice, sure but the Assault Scrambler Rifle (1.8) out-ranges and out-DPSes the Assault Rifle as is so you're not losing anything in the offensive department when their proficiencies are both geared toward shield users. Just as well, the slight increase in speed and one HP armor repair on the Gallente isn't enough to compare to the 80 base HP increase on the Amarr Commando when they both have the same slot layout. Just seems like a slightly more shield-tanky version of the Amarr. Suppose we'll just have to wait and see though. Useful Links //forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=133588 //forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=134182

Beren Hurin Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 2190	Posted - 2014.03.12 16:35:00 - [51] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: No change to Amarr scout bonus. Very disappointed. Suit visual designs look great though! I agree on both points Amarr scout may be the second most visual appealing scout, next to the Minmatar They did increase the base stamina stat though by a good chunk from what they initially announced for the amarr scout. 225-> 275 or about 22%.
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 3205	Posted - 2014.03.12 16:37:00 - [52] - Quote With all the complaining about a partial refund I'm getting the impression that people only run one fit. I have two or three variations across Assault, Logistics and Scout plus pilot and sniper focused not including variations for basic, standard and prototype. Some are pure shield and some are more armor heavy. I'll now be adding Sentinel and Commando which will probably mean trimming some of my existing fits. When FOTM swings around I wouldn't be surprised if you end up relying on skills you want to dump in 1.8. It's good to have options. Train all the things. Adapt or Die // Republic Lance Commander // @ReesNoturana
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y 22	Posted - 2014.03.12 16:38:00 - [53] - Quote Can we get a full respec? New weapons, new equiptment, new light and heavy suits... Nerf to a bunch of assault weapons... I wanna change my side are to the new ones and change my heavy to Gallente D: Also, pretty please, tell us the release date? <3 G.L.O.R.Y solider, Master of the Heavy
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2184	Posted - 2014.03.12 16:39:00 - [54] - Quote Why did you get rid of the explosives clip bonus on the Minmatar? [quote + Dev Blog]This means anyone looking to specialize with a particular type of equipment should start using a specific racial type of drop-suit. [/quote] Yet not for the Mass Driver or Flaylock, why? Also thoroughly disappointed you haven't redone the slot layout on the medium suits. Your just gonna have to change them up in the future anyway On a positive note, good work on the rest of the suits. Just feel like you've shot yourselves in the foot. Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
IgniteableAura Pro Hic Immortalis 667	Posted - 2014.03.12 16:40:00 - [55] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: With all the complaining about a partial refund I'm getting the impression that people only run one fit. I have two or three variations across Assault, Logistics and Scout plus pilot and sniper focused not including variations for basic, standard and prototype. Some are pure shield and some are more armor heavy. I'll now be adding Sentinel and Commando which will probably mean trimming some of my existing fits. When FOTM swings around I wouldn't be surprised if you end up relying on skills you want to dump in 1.8. It's good to have options. Train all the things. Not everyone has 40million SP. Most people have been forced to focus on a single role. Which means the command respec means NOTHING to these people. Basically a HTFU mantra. Especially since day one, they have been told to focus on a single role to get competitive and join in on PC games. PHI Recruitment or PHIsh Tank in game Youtube
Maximus Stryker Who Are Those Guys 845	Posted - 2014.03.12 16:41:00 - [56] - Quote at this stage of the game, honestly, who doesn't have Complex Shield Extenders AND Complex Armor Plating... That was one of the first things I did Use the million clone challenge to save up for some core upgrades *Faction Channels for FW Staging* PIE Ground Control \| Caldari Hierarchy \| Turalyon \| Chosen Matari
Noremac Nagaho Red Hand Syndicate 27	Posted - 2014.03.12 16:41:00 - [57] - Quote 'Neo' Commando Ck.0 will be a badass warbarge suit, master chief with black digi camo and red highlights!
Kigurosaka Laaksonen DUST University Ivy League 592	Posted - 2014.03.12 16:42:00 - [58] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: What a **** company. Not refunding core and weapons is offensive when suits bonuses have changed so wildly. Ran a Minmatar assault with scrambler pistols? Tough luck. Greedy CCP no faith in their game. What a grubby little douche. No. This is how it is. Play EVE and come back to me when your Armageddon is turned into a neut/drone boat. Reav Hannari wrote:** We can't get real 3D renders yet? Word is you'll get them on March 25th. DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/ EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
Maximus Stryker Who Are Those Guys 845	Posted - 2014.03.12 16:43:00 - [59] - Quote Mortishai Belmont wrote: Can we get a full respec? New weapons, new equiptment, new light and heavy suits... Nerf to a bunch of assault weapons... I wanna change my side are to the new ones and change my heavy to Gallente D: Also, pretty please, tell us the release date? <3 March 25th, read the whole blog... *Faction Channels for FW Staging* PIE Ground Control \| Caldari Hierarchy \| Turalyon \| Chosen Matari
IgniteableAura Pro Hic Immortalis 667	Posted - 2014.03.12 16:44:00 - [60] - Quote Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: What a ****** company. Not refunding core and weapons is offensive when suits bonuses have changed so wildly. Ran a Minmatar assault with scrambler pistols? Tough luck. Greedy CCP no faith in their game. What a grubby little douche. No. This is how it is. Play EVE and come back to me when your Armageddon is turned into a neut/drone boat. Also realize in EVE you can train the skills needed for that change in a matter of days, not the months it would take in dust. PHI Recruitment or PHIsh Tank in game Youtube



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