I'd say you should think before you speak. I'm 25 years old and been playing since replication. So please. If you don't know me shut ur mouth

Take a look at Dust: Complex fitting system. Skill system. Now take a look at BF3: Just some weapon unlocks. Now take a second to think about it.

Sorry to break it to you, but you're playing the wrong game. This is no BF3. Dust is all about your fittings. And a longer TTK means your fittings are more important. Like it should be. What good is your fitting if, no matter what you're using, you die after 2 shots? What good are your skills if your enemy dies after 2 shots, no matter if you use damage modifiers or have your weapon damage skilled.

If you like Battlefield 3 so much, then go play it. Don't try to make Dust a game it is not and doesn't want to be.

Against anyone who got a rifle over standart tier.
EHP doesnt matter, because you either get ganked in a second or in a second and a half.

Its like you people never leave your fully stacked proto suits.

He will chase you and then kill you behind the cover.

they are repeating the same errors again by changing too many variables at once................

Now what we have is an across the board damage reduction on most weapons (1st variable) + reduction in damage modifiers (2nd variable) + skill proficiency reduction (3rd variable).................

It will be interesting to see what they have in store for AV because they just received another nerf.

My 551EHP basic suit costing just 18k equipped with an Exile AR is just as fine and while i do notice a little bit of performance dip, i can still fight back most of the time.

That is a conclusion that would be sound in vacuum, howver in a match this never happens because others are bound to be somewhere nearby.

Also, good luck flanking a protobear as a newb, that sure works out often.

And stop shifting the argument to "GEE THOSE WINERS, LOOK AT THIS GUY WHY CANT YOU WHINERS BE LIKE HIM" populism.

Not everyone in this argument is a sore loser. Most are like in every balancing argument on every side, but not everyone.

It had it coming. More time to react = more time to think = less twitch shooter. It should actually benefit people with skill or tactics because people with aim or people that actually run with friends will do better than solo operators. It's amusing to see "Zerg" denigrated as a tactic, as opposed to "Rambo" as tactic which doesn't even qualify.

A MMO-social-squad-focused shooter isn't supposed to be about "that one guy" annihilating the other team. This is a great move, and I'm glad 90% of the QQ here is just the OP raging that everyone doesn't agree with him.

This has been an issue for a while, and it got worse with the RR and CR. Short TTK turned more people off than it convinced that the game was "totally awesome". Lots of vets trickled away.

People were interested in Dust because it's supposed to be better. If your options for tactics are basically brick tank or brick tank and 90% of encounters are determined by who shot first; it's not that sort of game. This will be an improvement. It won't make things perfect or prevent some dumb tactics, but it'll actually allow for tactics when there were not before.

It's possible the nerf was too hard here (the prof change will really hit weapons hard on the weaker resist), but a nerf was needed and can be adjusted.

Never happens? If I shoot a guy and took his health down and he tries to "leg it".
I will chase him because he's hurt. It happens all the time.

why can't you flank someone in a proto suit? You guys make it seem like proto suits are god mode.

DUST 514 is not just an FPS. It is also an MMO.

DUST 514 is not just an FPS. It is also an MMO.

Your personal behaviour. Most people go do something else or chug a nade or 2 and get shot by his buddies.


You cant compete with a protobear because the protobear is never alone, he got his protobear friends zerging with him at the speed of light. Not with current TTK, not with current AA.

Well they could sure learn a thing or two about vehicles in Battlefield

Is it me or does Beeees' dual posts here explain everything on his stance on TTK?

Yeah, I use one. If you can't turn around and kill than that means you got outflanked hard. You should die....it's apart of awareness.

This will take us back many builds to where teamwork and attention to where you're standing was very important. The interesting thing about proto suits being harder to kill is it makes the wearer cocky and overly aggressive. I killed lots of those guys back in the day. When our squadmate in the lower tier suit retreated mr protobear would push when he should have repositioned, and wound up getting shot at from two or three sides.

That is what you call tactics, not blapping everyone as fast as you can press a button.

meaning what?

We really need to see all the changes in 1.8 before we jump to any huge conclusions.

I for one agree with this weapon nerf.

It will make battles more strategic, but in reality, you'll still be doing high damage, you just can't kill someone in 0.5 to 1 second.

if you die that fast, then you need to change your suit.

This will take us back many builds to where teamwork and attention to where you're standing was very important. The interesting thing about proto suits being harder to kill is it makes the wearer cocky and overly aggressive. I killed lots of those guys back in the day. When our squadmate in the lower tier suit retreated mr protobear would push when he should have repositioned, and wound up getting shot at from two or three sides.

That is what you call tactics, not blapping everyone as fast as you can press a button.

So what, you a cookiecutter apologist now?

Well TTK will still be a lot less than WOW if you insist on comparing it to other games.