I do agree that longer TTKs will in no way help noobs. A better player is still a better player. It's just going to make you losing to a better player a torturous experience.

I remember many guys in the old closed beta getting turned off to Dust because they said it took forever to kill people. Very high TTK is not appealing. This is a huge mistake.

GOD DAMMIT CCP!!!!

Now, that I've gotten that out.....why are you increasing TTK? It is not fun when it takes really long to kill someone. All of these guys complaining about insta-deaths are exaggerating beyond belief. Compare the TTK in BF3 to Dust as it is now. In BF3, you don't have the time to react AT ALL. That is an insta-death. In Dust, you have plenty of time to react. In pubs, I see guys running more ehp on their advanced suits than I have on proto suits that I use.

Assaults/logis are running around with 600hp,700hp or armor and sitting in triage nanohives or getting repped. Do you know how ******** it is to kill a guy with all of that health? I didn't even mention heavies. And I see that the HMG didn't get a nerf. So, they get to keep their TTK and maintain the most ehp in the game while everyone else gets a nerf?

I can already see guys saying...well, use better tactics. And I'm thinking...why wouldn't they use the same advice instead of asking for a nerf to damage? If you feel that you're getting insta-killed. Stay close to cover..so when you start to get hit, you can jump behind it. Because in Dust, even if you aim high, the damage seems to be the same as hitting the body. So, if you have 700ehp, there is no way that you can get instakilled.

And these are huge nerfs, CCP...wtf? You know noone uses enhanced dmg mods, so it goes from 5%-3%. But then 10% - 5% on a complex damage mod??? I don't even use the duvolle anymore but you've essentially turned the Duvolle into an exile?? Don't you see what happened when you nerfed a player's AV defense against tanks? Now, you nerfed our only defense against heavies and players with a huge amount of ehp???

I mean....seriously what is the point of this extremely high TTK? You don't want a game where you get instakilled. But you also don't want a game where it takes forever to kill someone either!

I remember many guys in the old closed beta getting turned off to Dust because they said it took forever to kill people. Very high TTK is not appealing. This is a huge mistake.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWXcHdQe6jE

I really think its only going to increase TTK to around another second, give or take another half second... even with all the nerfs.

I was shot in the BACK while sniping but I won the shootout after I turned around. All I wanna say is that some skill outweighs not too skilled. Ttk in new eden=moot point. And sadly the not too skilled are crying highest to CCP about ttk. I wonder how this video would play out after 1.8 ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNOUOnsnJJg


And a bonus clip of dubbs delivering double pancakes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z4BDBrykis

I was getting ready to link this video to the thread since right now Dust is first see-first kill but you beat me to it :D.

And man, clearing that top was epic lol

wait... so your basing your TTK video while wearing an armor tanked GK.0 logi

and your basing it off some guy shooting you lower tier gear... wtf

did you see how fast you killed the poor bastard that shot at you first?

not everyone wears proto armor tanked suits

what about the militia suits, scouts, lower tier frames?

is time to be killed okay?

Longer TTK: more fun 1 v 1s where cover and regen matters.

To those QQing about this, just get out of this game. You are the guys that want to be able to solo 5 new guys to boost your egos. This is now over, lube up you butts well before 1.8 and I promise you it wont hurt.

Let the best strafer with the best aim win.

Stop QQing and skill into a sidearm.

GOD DAMMIT CCP!!!!

Now, that I've gotten that out.....why are you increasing TTK? It is not fun when it takes really long to kill someone. All of these guys complaining about insta-deaths are exaggerating beyond belief. Compare the TTK in BF3 to Dust as it is now. In BF3, you don't have the time to react AT ALL. That is an insta-death. In Dust, you have plenty of time to react. In pubs, I see guys running more ehp on their advanced suits than I have on proto suits that I use.

Assaults/logis are running around with 600hp,700hp or armor and sitting in triage nanohives or getting repped. Do you know how ******** it is to kill a guy with all of that health? I didn't even mention heavies. And I see that the HMG didn't get a nerf. So, they get to keep their TTK and maintain the most ehp in the game while everyone else gets a nerf?

I can already see guys saying...well, use better tactics. And I'm thinking...why wouldn't they use the same advice instead of asking for a nerf to damage? If you feel that you're getting insta-killed. Stay close to cover..so when you start to get hit, you can jump behind it. Because in Dust, even if you aim high, the damage seems to be the same as hitting the body. So, if you have 700ehp, there is no way that you can get instakilled.

And these are huge nerfs, CCP...wtf? You know noone uses enhanced dmg mods, so it goes from 5%-3%. But then 10% - 5% on a complex damage mod??? I don't even use the duvolle anymore but you've essentially turned the Duvolle into an exile?? Don't you see what happened when you nerfed a player's AV defense against tanks? Now, you nerfed our only defense against heavies and players with a huge amount of ehp???

I mean....seriously what is the point of this extremely high TTK? You don't want a game where you get instakilled. But you also don't want a game where it takes forever to kill someone either!

I remember many guys in the old closed beta getting turned off to Dust because they said it took forever to kill people. Very high TTK is not appealing. This is a huge mistake.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWXcHdQe6jE

I predict a far more slowed down strategy vs the current zerg one.

We might have some real entrenched firefights necessitating a lot more team work on deck.