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Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 2534	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:00:00 - [31] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: axis alpha wrote: Well I'm pretty much done... The QQers have turned this game into CareBear 514. We might as well pull out our ***** plastic bats and nerf guns because that's what it's turned into.... Fuckin ****... How is it carebear 514 just because it finally makes sense to think about your fitting? You're not playing Titanfall here. Or are you just scared that newbies might now be a problem for you because you can't only rely on your superior reflexes and better aiming anymore, which you have thanks to your young age of 15? Don't forget to give me your ISK before leaving and biomassing. Thank you. We've always had to think about our fitting. I've always thought about my fittings.....anyone that didn't before is crazy. But you just described why it is carebear 514. If CCP is catering the game to newbies instead of it just being about skill like "superior reflexes and better aiming"...then that defines carebear. But what people need to realize is that better players will still be better players. If they nerf something to help out newbies....and make it harder for better players to kill, then guess what? It will be even harder for noobies to kill just as much. weRideNDie2getha since 2010 "You wanna walk around with them, or you wanna walk around with God n"
Beeeees KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 409	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:01:00 - [32] - Quote TTK was/is too low period. There is no discussion, never was. Playing whack-a-mole is not fun. "First to press L1+R1 wins" is not skill. Blobbing is not strategy. Please go play a game that suits your refined tastes, rather than trying to change our game to suit your refined tastes also. TOLD514
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 2534	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:04:00 - [33] - Quote axis alpha wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: So what is the problem if you have more time to react? What is the problem if it actually matter that you have an additional shield extender? Currently one additional shield extender lets you take one additional bullet. Yeah. Totally worth it. Enjoyment. Fun factor is reduced when you're putting bullets into a guy and it looks like you're doing nothing to him. It's like driving on the interstate for 3 hours then you look on the map and realize that you're still in the same state. More kills equals more fun....would you have more fun in a 30 kill game or a 60 kill game? And to prove a point I'm going to keep playing just to prove that Ttk ain't gonna save you QQers from real talented players Ding ding..exactly weRideNDie2getha since 2010 "You wanna walk around with them, or you wanna walk around with God n**"
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2306	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:04:00 - [34] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: We've always had to think about our fitting. I've always thought about my fittings.....anyone that didn't before is crazy. But you just described why it is carebear 514. If CCP is catering the game to newbies instead of it just being about skill like "superior reflexes and better aiming"...then that defines carebear. But what people need to realize is that better players will still be better players. If they nerf something to help out newbies....and make it harder for better players to kill, then guess what? It will be even harder for noobies to kill just as much. Yes but it makes it easier for 2 newbies to kill 1 skilled player. Higher TTK reduces the ability for a proto-vet to become a 'cod hero'. That is an overall positive change for NPE.
Beeeees KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 409	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:07:00 - [35] - Quote axis alpha wrote: Well I'm pretty much done... The QQers have turned this game into CareBear 514. We might as well pull out our ***** plastic bats and nerf guns because that's what it's turned into.... Fuckin ******... I find it ironic that what you want is the actual carebearing. Pandering to the lowest, skillless common denominator, just so you can land a kill and feel good about yourself, instead of actually putting effort and being better than the other. You want jump people? Get an alpha weapon. TOLD514
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 2534	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:07:00 - [36] - Quote Beeeees wrote: TTK was/is too low period. There is no discussion, never was. Playing whack-a-mole is not fun. "First to press L1+R1 wins" is not skill. Blobbing is not strategy. Please go play a game that suits your refined tastes, rather than trying to change our game to suit your refined tastes also. Listen to the dude talkingabout fittings.. if you run around in MLT gear and 300 total ehp vs guys with 800ehp, then you're going to get smoked. It's that simple. Put more shields or armor on and you increase your ehp/TTK. Think about your fittings...adapt. I think it's ****** when guys are getting smoked and continue to run around in the same fit that isn't working. Just the other day, I had to correct my own player for using a STD fit (and ended up going hard negative in a pub) when guys on the other side are using Gallente Logi/Assault suits and using Six Kin CRs weRideNDie2getha since 2010 "You wanna walk around with them, or you wanna walk around with God n"
Canari Elphus Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1239	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:09:00 - [37] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: We've always had to think about our fitting. I've always thought about my fittings.....anyone that didn't before is crazy. But you just described why it is carebear 514. If CCP is catering the game to newbies instead of it just being about skill like "superior reflexes and better aiming"...then that defines carebear. But what people need to realize is that better players will still be better players. If they nerf something to help out newbies....and make it harder for better players to kill, then guess what? It will be even harder for noobies to kill just as much. Yes but it makes it easier for 2 newbies to kill 1 skilled player. Higher TTK reduces the ability for a proto-vet to become a 'cod hero'. That is an overall positive change for NPE. My fear is that it will just further reduce the amount of variability of suits in the game. There is no way for someone to create an effective glass-cannon fit that uses speed anymore. Its just going to be more people in high ehp standing there and shooting each other in the face until one drops. Also, welcome to the domination of heavies. Canari Elphus for CPM1
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 2537	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:09:00 - [38] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: We've always had to think about our fitting. I've always thought about my fittings.....anyone that didn't before is crazy. But you just described why it is carebear 514. If CCP is catering the game to newbies instead of it just being about skill like "superior reflexes and better aiming"...then that defines carebear. But what people need to realize is that better players will still be better players. If they nerf something to help out newbies....and make it harder for better players to kill, then guess what? It will be even harder for noobies to kill just as much. Yes but it makes it easier for 2 newbies to kill 1 skilled player. Higher TTK reduces the ability for a proto-vet to become a 'cod hero'. That is an overall positive change for NPE. It doesn't....the nerf is across the board. Newbies/noobies alike will get the same nerf that a vet has. It will take them longer to kill the vet just as it takes the vet longer to kill them. It just makes the fight longer for both of them. weRideNDie2getha since 2010 "You wanna walk around with them, or you wanna walk around with God n**"
ads alt DROID EXILES General Tso's Alliance 33	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:10:00 - [39] - Quote axis alpha wrote: ads alt wrote: axis alpha wrote: Well I'm pretty much done... The QQers have turned this game into CareBear 514. We might as well pull out our ***** plastic bats and nerf guns because that's what it's turned into.... Fuckin ******... Go back to cod We wont miss you Haha please. Don't count on it carebear. Says the carebear that wants whoever sees who first wins cod bullshit Go back to cod, enjoy your low ttk If you dont want high ttk go play cod Low ttk is boring as hell.....one of the reasons I quit playint cod.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 2537	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:13:00 - [40] - Quote Beeeees wrote: axis alpha wrote: Well I'm pretty much done... The QQers have turned this game into CareBear 514. We might as well pull out our ***** plastic bats and nerf guns because that's what it's turned into.... Fuckin ****... I find it ironic that what you want is the actual carebearing. Pandering to the lowest, skillless common denominator, just so you can land a kill and feel good about yourself, instead of actually putting effort and being better than the other. You want jump people? Get an alpha weapon. The nerf is across the board.....who is this nerf catering to? weRideNDie2getha since 2010 "You wanna walk around with them, or you wanna walk around with God n"

Beeeees KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 412	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:13:00 - [41] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Listen to the dude talkingabout fittings.. if you run around in MLT gear and 300 total ehp vs guys with 800ehp, then you're going to get smoked. It's that simple. Put more shields or armor on and you increase your ehp/TTK. I was both brick and speedtanking in chromo, now with dual brick tank I have the survivability of my paper speed tank back in chromo. Dont you be lecturing me on fitting m8. TOLD514
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2819	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:14:00 - [42] - Quote Changes are fine if you can aim Intelligence is OP
Beeeees KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 412	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:15:00 - [43] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: The nerf is across the board.....who is this nerf catering to? To everyone who isnt a floorscrub that joined after 1.4 TOLD514
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 2537	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:15:00 - [44] - Quote ads alt wrote: axis alpha wrote: ads alt wrote: axis alpha wrote: Well I'm pretty much done... The QQers have turned this game into CareBear 514. We might as well pull out our ***** plastic bats and nerf guns because that's what it's turned into.... Fuckin ****... Go back to cod We wont miss you Haha please. Don't count on it carebear. Says the carebear that wants whoever sees who first wins cod bullshit Go back to cod, enjoy your low ttk If you dont want high ttk go play cod Low ttk is boring as hell.....one of the reasons I quit playint cod. How can you compare COD's TTK to Dust's TTK. I heard COD's TTK is even faster than BF3's TTK. And Dust's TTK is much, much higher than BF3's TTK. You can absolutely turn on people in Dust right now. Not to mention, if I flanked you and started shooting you in the back, it only makes sense that you end up dying. But if you have skill, there is enough TTK left to turn around, find cover and kill the guy. I will start recording and post because I don't know what game you guys are playing. weRideNDie2getha since 2010 "You wanna walk around with them, or you wanna walk around with God n"
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 2537	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:16:00 - [45] - Quote Beeeees wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Listen to the dude talkingabout fittings.. if you run around in MLT gear and 300 total ehp vs guys with 800ehp, then you're going to get smoked. It's that simple. Put more shields or armor on and you increase your ehp/TTK. I was both brick and speedtanking in chromo, now with dual brick tank I have the survivability of my paper speed tank back in chromo. Dont you be lecturing me on fitting m8. Well, if you don on 700hp or 800hp of health, then you're lying if you say you get instakilled. weRideNDie2getha since 2010 "You wanna walk around with them, or you wanna walk around with God n**"
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 2537	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:19:00 - [46] - Quote Beeeees wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: The nerf is across the board.....who is this nerf catering to? To everyone who isnt a floorscrub that joined after 1.4 Guys that joined late are getting the same nerf. You know what that means, right? It will take vets longer to kill guys. But at the same time, it will take new players longer to kill guys. Tbh, this hurts new players with low ehp fits. Because a skilled new player, can flank and with the damage now, they can hopefully kill the guy before he turns around. But increasing the TTK....will only make it harder for him to kill the vet and allow him to turn on the new player. Does that make sense to you? weRideNDie2getha since 2010 "You wanna walk around with them, or you wanna walk around with God n**"
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1871	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:21:00 - [47] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: So what is the problem if you have more time to react? What is the problem if it actually matter that you have an additional shield extender? Currently one additional shield extender lets you take one additional bullet. Yeah. Totally worth it. Enjoyment. Fun factor is reduced when you're putting bullets into a guy and it looks like you're doing nothing to him. It's like driving on the interstate for 3 hours then you look on the map and realize that you're still in the same state. More kills equals more fun....would you have more fun in a 30 kill game or a 60 kill game? Your equation is off. It also means you die less. Less dying means more fun. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
ads alt DROID EXILES General Tso's Alliance 33	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:22:00 - [48] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: ads alt wrote: axis alpha wrote: ads alt wrote: axis alpha wrote: Well I'm pretty much done... The QQers have turned this game into CareBear 514. We might as well pull out our ***** plastic bats and nerf guns because that's what it's turned into.... Fuckin ******... Go back to cod We wont miss you Haha please. Don't count on it carebear. Says the carebear that wants whoever sees who first wins cod bullshit Go back to cod, enjoy your low ttk If you dont want high ttk go play cod Low ttk is boring as hell.....one of the reasons I quit playint cod. How can you compare COD's TTK to Dust's TTK. I heard COD's TTK is even faster than BF3's TTK. And Dust's TTK is much, much higher than BF3's TTK. You can absolutely turn on people in Dust right now. Not to mention, if I flanked you and started shooting you in the back, it only makes sense that you end up dying. But if you have skill, there is enough TTK left to turn around, find cover and kill the guy. I will start recording and post because I don't know what game you guys are playing. Im playing PROTO514. But SOMETIMES I cant turn around and kill, but not proto fegs. Ever heard of a combat rifle? Edit Lets see if I can get this alt banned too.
Beeeees KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 412	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:23:00 - [49] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Well, if you don on 700hp or 800hp of health, then you're lying if you say you get instakilled. I run solid 760ehp on my brickiest tank and have to accompany it with a SCR, because otherwise I wouldnt live long enough to dish out enough DPS back at the attacker. And this fit has about 10% more survivability than a 500EHP repslut. TOLD514
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 2542	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:24:00 - [50] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: So what is the problem if you have more time to react? What is the problem if it actually matter that you have an additional shield extender? Currently one additional shield extender lets you take one additional bullet. Yeah. Totally worth it. Enjoyment. Fun factor is reduced when you're putting bullets into a guy and it looks like you're doing nothing to him. It's like driving on the interstate for 3 hours then you look on the map and realize that you're still in the same state. More kills equals more fun....would you have more fun in a 30 kill game or a 60 kill game? Your equation is off. It also means you die less. Less dying means more fun. If you're killing more, it's safe to assume that you're dying less. But either way 60-15 is more fun than 25-2 weRideNDie2getha since 2010 "You wanna walk around with them, or you wanna walk around with God n**"

Justicar Karnellia Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 715	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:25:00 - [51] - Quote You bring up many valid points. I think the problem is we had such a long wait in between patch cycles that they are repeating the same errors again by changing too many variables at once. We saw this by the parallel HAV buff + AV nerf... this bred super tanks. Now what we have is an across the board damage reduction on most weapons (1st variable) + reduction in damage modifiers (2nd variable) + skill proficiency reduction (3rd variable). We haven't even put suit stats into this. This will cause a lot of these variables to swing some builds to the extreme end of the OP spectrum... not good, nor desirable. It will be interesting to see what they have in store for AV because they just received another nerf - their AV grenades now go down to 2, and their damage modifiers are always stacked in highs and this has a knock on effect to the already depleted AV weapons (forges and swarms).
Beeeees KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 412	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:26:00 - [52] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Beeeees wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: The nerf is across the board.....who is this nerf catering to? To everyone who isnt a floorscrub that joined after 1.4 Guys that joined late are getting the same nerf. You know what that means, right? It will take vets longer to kill guys. But at the same time, it will take new players longer to kill guys. Tbh, this hurts new players with low ehp fits. No it doesnt. Higher TTK makes it possible to leg it, which is the only possible survival solution when you got a proto on your ass. With low TTK you get jumped by a proto and thats it, you-¦re ded. With high TTK you get jump by a proto and you either shoot back and most likely get #rekd, or you leg it towards the next cover. TOLD514
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1496	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:27:00 - [53] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Spectral Clone wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: Snip Hey ZDub! A bit off topic, but: Do you still run GIMX? Im getting one USB-adapter this week, gonna try it out. Do you have any settings left for dust in GIMX and are willing to share? Post here or pm me ingame if you still have it. Yes sir, can't really play without it anymore. Its a bit painful to set up. You have a 10000 pt adjustment you can make to sensitivity and acceleration for hipfire and ads. I think i spent 5-6 games straight adjusting each value up and down until it started to feel okay and see if I could build some muscle memory for it. I run it mostly so I can use my Corsair K60, which requires custom firmware and is not supported on the PS3. email me in game if you want. okay back on topic. I dunno ydubbs... I think for this you'll just have to see how it plays in game. I think it will be a positive change though myself. But im not as invested in dust as i was in 1.3. <3 Prepares soldering iron Drop it like its hat.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 2542	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:28:00 - [54] - Quote ads alt wrote: Im playing PROTO514. But SOMETIMES I cant turn around and kill, but not proto fegs. Ever heard of a combat rifle? Edit Lets see if I can get this alt banned too. Yeah, I use one. If you can't turn around and kill than that means you got outflanked hard. You should die....it's apart of awareness. weRideNDie2getha since 2010 "You wanna walk around with them, or you wanna walk around with God n**"
NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 245	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:31:00 - [55] - Quote All I got to say is you all got your cake I hope you enjoy eating it until the next update. Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1. Original ROF needs to return!
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 2542	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:32:00 - [56] - Quote Beeeees wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Well, if you don on 700hp or 800hp of health, then you're lying if you say you get instakilled. I run solid 760ehp on my brickiest tank and have to accompany it with a SCR, because otherwise I wouldnt live long enough to dish out enough DPS back at the attacker. And this fit has about 10% more survivability than a 500EHP repslut. You wouldn't live long enough against who? Other guys with 760hp of health? I don't understand...you're saying that your 760hp suit is different than someone elses's? weRideNDie2getha since 2010 "You wanna walk around with them, or you wanna walk around with God n**"
Yagihige Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 577	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:33:00 - [57] - Quote Beeeees wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Well, if you don on 700hp or 800hp of health, then you're lying if you say you get instakilled. I run solid 760ehp on my brickiest tank and have to accompany it with a SCR, because otherwise I wouldnt live long enough to dish out enough DPS back at the attacker. And this fit has about 10% more survivability than a 500EHP repslut. I don't know what you're doing wrong but in my suits at around 700EHP i can turn around to kill an attacker lots of times. When i don't, i recognize it was because i was either too much in the open or the other guy was noticeably stronger than me. em ta kool t'nod
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 2542	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:34:00 - [58] - Quote Beeeees wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Beeeees wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: The nerf is across the board.....who is this nerf catering to? To everyone who isnt a floorscrub that joined after 1.4 Guys that joined late are getting the same nerf. You know what that means, right? It will take vets longer to kill guys. But at the same time, it will take new players longer to kill guys. Tbh, this hurts new players with low ehp fits. No it doesnt. Higher TTK makes it possible to leg it, which is the only possible survival solution when you got a proto on your ass. With low TTK you get jumped by a proto and thats it, you-¦re ded. With high TTK you get jumped by a proto and you either shoot back and most likely get #rekd, or you leg it towards the next cover. He will chase you and then kill you behind the cover. The best way for a new player with lower ehp to survive is to flank and try to kill a guy before he knows you're there. And nerfing the damage will allow him to stay alive and turn on the low ehp player. weRideNDie2getha since 2010 "You wanna walk around with them, or you wanna walk around with God n**"
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 2542	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:37:00 - [59] - Quote Yagihige wrote: Beeeees wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Well, if you don on 700hp or 800hp of health, then you're lying if you say you get instakilled. I run solid 760ehp on my brickiest tank and have to accompany it with a SCR, because otherwise I wouldnt live long enough to dish out enough DPS back at the attacker. And this fit has about 10% more survivability than a 500EHP repslut. I don't know what you're doing wrong but in my suits at around 700EHP i can turn around to kill an attacker lots of times. When i don't, i recognize it was because i was either too much in the open or the other guy was noticeably stronger than me. Now, this is thinking that everyone needs to adapt. If game mechanics are broken, then you can blame the dev. But this guys is taking his own responsibility for dying and players need to do that. weRideNDie2getha since 2010 "You wanna walk around with them, or you wanna walk around with God n**"
Beeeees KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 414	Posted - 2014.03.05 13:39:00 - [60] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: You wouldn't live long enough against who? Other guys with 760hp of health? I don't understand...you're saying that your 760hp suit is different than someone elses's? Against anyone who got a rifle over standart tier. EHP doesnt matter, because you either get ganked in a second or in a second and a half. Its like you people never leave your fully stacked proto suits. TOLD514



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