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ZDub 303 wrote:

Ydubbs81 RND wrote:

No, I didn't deliberately place myself in that situation if that's what you were thinking. Most games that I play, I am able to take a few bullets and react...so I knew if I just record any random game that I would be able to show a situation where I was able to react.

Because the point of it all is guys saying that you don't have time to react. And I wanted to show guys that you do have time to react in this game. If someone is standing still....then you should die. Don't blame the weapons but one's own performance.

The Viziam scr rifle is one that needed a nerf because it's just too much. And tbh, I wouldn't have been so enraged if it were just a weapon damage nerf. But c'mon....weapon damage nerf, damage mod nerf, and the removal of the rifle prof skill attribute?? It is excessive especially with everyone tanking so much.

I understand what you're saying.

The damage mod nerf was a little much but still a good change imo, as long as they give assaults an appropriate rifle bonus to make it more attractive than running a slayer logi with stacked damage mods. AV needs a buff too, but they needed it before the damage mod change anyways.

Weapon proficiency is not being removed. You still get 3% per level, its just 3% to shields or armor based on the weapon's racial affiliation. It is a damage reduction but its not being completely removed.

The overall rifle nerf was long needed. I hate to say it myself as a die hard rifle user but think of it more as a renormalization to make the rifles more consistent with other weapon catagories (shotguns, precision rifles, etc).

I'm sure many more adjustments are in store. It probably was too much at once, but that is the CCP way.

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Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 2567	Posted - 2014.03.05 21:11:00 - [151] - Quote Beeeees wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Beeeees wrote: Your second video is deleted. Buddy, give it up. Microscopic TTK is not something this community wants. There are tons of other games that have low TTK by design. DUST514 is not supposed to have current TTK by design. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YOwIwk02so "Microscopic TTK"? You're being so dramatic. TTK right now is definitely not fast in comparison to real fast TTK fps games. You got shot down to 20% of your total EHP, a bit less lag and you-¦d be dead. DUST514 is not supposed to have current TTK by design. Stop defending a miscalculation on CCPs part, a glitch if you will, as perfectly fine gameplay. lmfao...now the reason is because of lag. Unbelievable. I got shot down to 20% but I had time to react...THAT is the point. It wasn't insta-death.. weRideNDie2getha since 2010 RND's recruitment official phrase
Johnny Guilt Algintal Core 538	Posted - 2014.03.05 21:12:00 - [152] - Quote how to increase your TTK:Bunny hop all the time A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 2567	Posted - 2014.03.05 21:14:00 - [153] - Quote Phazoid wrote: why is people wasting their time to answer to this "we want cod kill time because we are noobs"?, just leave this thread and dont look back, the ones that make this thread are the ones that go 0/10 on a match, or that simply rely on AA. COD kill time? Who's asking for that? Yes...please leave this thread because you're talking bullshit. You're under a 2KD and saying I go 0-10 in a match? lulz weRideNDie2getha since 2010 RND's recruitment official phrase
ads alt DROID EXILES General Tso's Alliance 46	Posted - 2014.03.05 21:15:00 - [154] - Quote Johnny Guilt wrote: how to increase your TTK:Bunny hop all the time Bunny hopping is pointles Ydubbs81 RND wrote: I got shot down to 20% but I had time to react...THAT is the point. It wasn't insta-death.. BECAUSE HE WAS A NOOB YOU IDIOT! Get that throuh your damm head
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 2567	Posted - 2014.03.05 21:24:00 - [155] - Quote ads alt wrote: Johnny Guilt wrote: how to increase your TTK:Bunny hop all the time Bunny hopping is pointles Ydubbs81 RND wrote: I got shot down to 20% but I had time to react...THAT is the point. It wasn't insta-death.. BECAUSE HE WAS A NOOB YOU IDIOT! Get that throuh your damm head Ydubbs81 RND wrote: I got shot down to 20% but I had time to react...THAT is the point. It wasn't insta-death.. Oh look another cod kiddie kdr ***** Kallente is a noob? Unbelievable. weRideNDie2getha since 2010 RND's recruitment official phrase
Croned 624	Posted - 2014.03.05 21:25:00 - [156] - Quote Comparison of current TTK to 1.8: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1892059 Son of a plasma cannon! TTK of the Weapons
Alena Ventrallis The Neutral Zone 805	Posted - 2014.03.05 21:30:00 - [157] - Quote I saw the frontline suit miss a majority of his shots and still get you to less than half armor, and I saw you kill him in less than a second. Best PVE idea I've seen.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 2567	Posted - 2014.03.05 21:32:00 - [158] - Quote Croned wrote: Comparison of current TTK to 1.8: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1892059 That's theoretical and doesn't take into account how much ehp a player has or the practical application of the fact that not every bullet hits. weRideNDie2getha since 2010 RND's recruitment official phrase
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2324	Posted - 2014.03.05 21:33:00 - [159] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Phazoid wrote: why is people wasting their time to answer to this "we want cod kill time because we are noobs"?, just leave this thread and dont look back, the ones that make this thread are the ones that go 0/10 on a match, or that simply rely on AA. COD kill time? Who's asking for that? Yes...please leave this thread because you're talking bullshit. You're under a 2KD and saying I go 0-10 in a match? lulz So instead of losing 80% of your hp in that situation you would lose ~70%. I'm just not sure this is something to get super dramatic about? You only survived that fight because you were trying to prove a point I feel like. Lets hang out near cover and wait until someone starts shooting at me. I am assuming you took this clip today, and it feels like you are trying to bias results a little. In the end its just opinions, im curious to see what you think come 5-6 weeks into 1.8 once the meta has settled a little. I suspect you don't really notice it as much as you might be worried about. I will admit I think damage mods need a better profile though. 2-4-7 would have made more sense than 3-4-5.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 2567	Posted - 2014.03.05 21:35:00 - [160] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: I saw the frontline suit miss a majority of his shots and still get you to less than half armor, and I saw you kill him in less than a second. Because I made him miss by being in motion and reacting. If this was COD or BF3, I would have been dead with all of the shots that did connect. TTK is fine as it is. weRideNDie2getha since 2010 RND's recruitment official phrase

ads alt DROID EXILES General Tso's Alliance 47	Posted - 2014.03.05 21:37:00 - [161] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: ads alt wrote: Johnny Guilt wrote: how to increase your TTK:Bunny hop all the time Bunny hopping is pointles Ydubbs81 RND wrote: I got shot down to 20% but I had time to react...THAT is the point. It wasn't insta-death.. BECAUSE HE WAS A NOOB YOU IDIOT! Get that throuh your damm head Ydubbs81 RND wrote: I got shot down to 20% but I had time to react...THAT is the point. It wasn't insta-death.. Oh look another cod kiddie kdr ***** Kallente is a noob? Unbelievable. Your first vid, hes a noob 2nd vid, not all his shots landed He was using a plasma rifle, need I say more?
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 2567	Posted - 2014.03.05 21:45:00 - [162] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Phazoid wrote: why is people wasting their time to answer to this "we want cod kill time because we are noobs"?, just leave this thread and dont look back, the ones that make this thread are the ones that go 0/10 on a match, or that simply rely on AA. COD kill time? Who's asking for that? Yes...please leave this thread because you're talking bullshit. You're under a 2KD and saying I go 0-10 in a match? lulz So instead of losing 80% of your hp in that situation you would lose ~70%. I'm just not sure this is something to get super dramatic about? You only survived that fight because you were trying to prove a point I feel like. Lets hang out near cover and wait until someone starts shooting at me. I am assuming you took this clip today, and it feels like you are trying to bias results a little. In the end its just opinions, im curious to see what you think come 5-6 weeks into 1.8 once the meta has settled a little. I suspect you don't really notice it as much as you might be worried about. I will admit I think damage mods need a better profile though. 2-4-7 would have made more sense than 3-4-5. No, I didn't deliberately place myself in that situation if that's what you were thinking. Most games that I play, I am able to take a few bullets and react...so I knew if I just record any random game that I would be able to show a situation where I was able to react. Because the point of it all is guys saying that you don't have time to react. And I wanted to show guys that you do have time to react in this game. If someone is standing still....then you should die. Don't blame the weapons but one's own performance. The Viziam scr rifle is one that needed a nerf because it's just too much. And tbh, I wouldn't have been so enraged if it were just a weapon damage nerf. But c'mon....weapon damage nerf, damage mod nerf, and the removal of the rifle prof skill attribute?? It is excessive especially with everyone tanking so much. weRideNDie2getha since 2010 RND's recruitment official phrase
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 2567	Posted - 2014.03.05 21:49:00 - [163] - Quote ads alt wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: ads alt wrote: Johnny Guilt wrote: how to increase your TTK:Bunny hop all the time Bunny hopping is pointles Ydubbs81 RND wrote: I got shot down to 20% but I had time to react...THAT is the point. It wasn't insta-death.. BECAUSE HE WAS A NOOB YOU IDIOT! Get that throuh your damm head Ydubbs81 RND wrote: I got shot down to 20% but I had time to react...THAT is the point. It wasn't insta-death.. Oh look another cod kiddie kdr ***** Kallente is a noob? Unbelievable. Your first vid, hes a noob 2nd vid, not all his shots landed He was using a plasma rifle, need I say more? he's a noob because he was missing shots...the other guy is missing shots. Ever thought they were missing shots because I reacted? weRideNDie2getha since 2010 RND's recruitment official phrase
ads alt DROID EXILES General Tso's Alliance 47	Posted - 2014.03.05 21:50:00 - [164] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: ads alt wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: ads alt wrote: Johnny Guilt wrote: how to increase your TTK:Bunny hop all the time Bunny hopping is pointles Ydubbs81 RND wrote: I got shot down to 20% but I had time to react...THAT is the point. It wasn't insta-death.. BECAUSE HE WAS A NOOB YOU IDIOT! Get that throuh your damm head Ydubbs81 RND wrote: I got shot down to 20% but I had time to react...THAT is the point. It wasn't insta-death.. Oh look another cod kiddie kdr ***** Kallente is a noob? Unbelievable. Your first vid, hes a noob 2nd vid, not all his shots landed He was using a plasma rifle, need I say more? he's a noob because he was missing shots...the other guy is missing shots. Ever thought they were missing shots because I reacted? No because they werent hip firing, and I always land my shots, and who aims at 5 feet from an enemy? And he was using a underpowered gun yet he wtf pwnd you but he sucked
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2326	Posted - 2014.03.05 21:52:00 - [165] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: No, I didn't deliberately place myself in that situation if that's what you were thinking. Most games that I play, I am able to take a few bullets and react...so I knew if I just record any random game that I would be able to show a situation where I was able to react. Because the point of it all is guys saying that you don't have time to react. And I wanted to show guys that you do have time to react in this game. If someone is standing still....then you should die. Don't blame the weapons but one's own performance. The Viziam scr rifle is one that needed a nerf because it's just too much. And tbh, I wouldn't have been so enraged if it were just a weapon damage nerf. But c'mon....weapon damage nerf, damage mod nerf, and the removal of the rifle prof skill attribute?? It is excessive especially with everyone tanking so much. I understand what you're saying. The damage mod nerf was a little much but still a good change imo, as long as they give assaults an appropriate rifle bonus to make it more attractive than running a slayer logi with stacked damage mods. AV needs a buff too, but they needed it before the damage mod change anyways. Weapon proficiency is not being removed. You still get 3% per level, its just 3% to shields or armor based on the weapon's racial affiliation. It is a damage reduction but its not being completely removed. The overall rifle nerf was long needed. I hate to say it myself as a die hard rifle user but think of it more as a renormalization to make the rifles more consistent with other weapon catagories (shotguns, precision rifles, etc). I'm sure many more adjustments are in store. It probably was too much at once, but that is the CCP way.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 2567	Posted - 2014.03.05 21:57:00 - [166] - Quote ads alt wrote: No because they werent hip firing, and I always land my shots, and who aims at 5 feet from an enemy? And he was using a underpowered gun yet he wtf pwnd you but he sucked I seriously doubt you land all your shots lulz weRideNDie2getha since 2010 RND's recruitment official phrase
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2327	Posted - 2014.03.05 22:00:00 - [167] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: ads alt wrote: No because they werent hip firing, and I always land my shots, and who aims at 5 feet from an enemy? And he was using a underpowered gun yet he wtf pwnd you but he sucked I seriously doubt you land all your shots lulz You mean your gun doesn't fire like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7wOX2WqbXE#t=22
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 2567	Posted - 2014.03.05 22:03:00 - [168] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: No, I didn't deliberately place myself in that situation if that's what you were thinking. Most games that I play, I am able to take a few bullets and react...so I knew if I just record any random game that I would be able to show a situation where I was able to react. Because the point of it all is guys saying that you don't have time to react. And I wanted to show guys that you do have time to react in this game. If someone is standing still....then you should die. Don't blame the weapons but one's own performance. The Viziam scr rifle is one that needed a nerf because it's just too much. And tbh, I wouldn't have been so enraged if it were just a weapon damage nerf. But c'mon....weapon damage nerf, damage mod nerf, and the removal of the rifle prof skill attribute?? It is excessive especially with everyone tanking so much. I understand what you're saying. The damage mod nerf was a little much but still a good change imo, as long as they give assaults an appropriate rifle bonus to make it more attractive than running a slayer logi with stacked damage mods. AV needs a buff too, but they needed it before the damage mod change anyways. Weapon proficiency is not being removed. You still get 3% per level, its just 3% to shields or armor based on the weapon's racial affiliation. It is a damage reduction but its not being completely removed. The overall rifle nerf was long needed. I hate to say it myself as a die hard rifle user but think of it more as a renormalization to make the rifles more consistent with other weapon catagories (shotguns, precision rifles, etc). I'm sure many more adjustments are in store. It probably was too much at once, but that is the CCP way. This is the second rifle nerf. At this rate, they're going to nerf it again by the end of the year. Plus...the new rifle prof stats are what we have now. The assault rifle has 10% to shields..in 1.8 we will have to level up in rifle proficiency to get what we automatically have now. But we lose the 3% damage per level that we have now. weRideNDie2getha since 2010 RND's recruitment official phrase
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1850	Posted - 2014.03.05 22:07:00 - [169] - Quote mollerz wrote: I predict a far more slowed down strategy vs the current zerg one. We might have some real entrenched firefights necessitating a lot more team work on deck. I hope so. I would like to be able to take damage for more than a second. As it is now if you aren't a perfect shot then being in a firefight doesn't last long and I would like to be able to use the skills and equipment that I played for. "You people voted for Hubert Humphrey, and you killed Jesus." Raoul Duke
Bojo The Mighty L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 3394	Posted - 2014.03.05 22:11:00 - [170] - Quote But also unlike any FPS Dust has the most god-awful open spaces and the slowest movement speeds. Bojo - Adding chili powder to your experience since early times

ZDub 303 TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2327	Posted - 2014.03.05 22:14:00 - [171] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: This is the second rifle nerf. At this rate, they're going to nerf it again by the end of the year. Plus...the new rifle prof stats are what we have now. The assault rifle has 10% to shields..in 1.8 we will have to level up in rifle proficiency to get what we automatically have now. But we lose the 3% damage per level that we have now. Source? I haven't seen this anywhere and i'm 90% sure that is not the case. Assault rifles are +10% to shields because plasma weaponry is +10% to shields. You get that natively, no matter how much skill you have in plasma rifles. PLC gets it, AR gets it, Shotgun gets it, and that bonus has no bearing on your proficiency in that skill. But plasma weaponry is a shield biased weapon being made by the gallente. So Plasma Rifle Proficiency is now +3% to shields instead of +3% to all damage. So plasma rifle is now calculated as (Base Damage)(1+Damage Modifier)(1+x)(1+y) Where: IF target=shields THEN x=0.1 AND y=0.3(AR Proficiency) ELSE x=-0.1 AND y=0 I hope that is somewhat clear.
Bojo The Mighty L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 3394	Posted - 2014.03.05 22:15:00 - [172] - Quote Battle of the Dubs Bojo - Adding chili powder to your experience since early times
BLUNT SMKR Ahrendee Mercenaries 37	Posted - 2014.03.05 23:13:00 - [173] - Quote I agree with some of wat dubbs is saying when i'm thinking bout the newbs. Longer TTK is not going to make it easier on them only harder. N the vets are going to benfit the most from it. cause like he said this is a all around nerf so it doesnt matter if a newbs 2v1 a protobear the proto is still going to come out on top if he is a good shooter. All longer TTK does is alows vets to stay alive longer n cause havok to the newbs more. meaning higher KDR's But really to me this nerf isnt going to be that bad as people making it sound like. lately i've been running a adv scout n a std combat rife with no damage mods n i still wreck people np. so in new update i'll just run straight proto n just keep wrecking. its just running std n adv just wont be as good as it was So how i see this update is it screws the new guys n helps the vets pad there stats more. sounds like a win win for me LOL TeamWork>KDR I Don't Know Why They Grinning Them Suckers Ain't Winning I Could Tell You That Right From The Beginning
BLUNT SMKR Ahrendee Mercenaries 37	Posted - 2014.03.05 23:21:00 - [174] - Quote Also u guys are rite about the TTK being to fast rite now. Cause why should a guy in full proto be able to kill my militia frontline assault in 1 sec. I should at least get 2sec to be able to run away befor he chases me n guns me down LOL TeamWork>KDR I Don't Know Why They Grinning Them Suckers Ain't Winning I Could Tell You That Right From The Beginning
Spaceman-Rob 346	Posted - 2014.03.05 23:28:00 - [175] - Quote Completely agree with OP, TTK is fine as it is just now, I run scout suit 80% of the time and have no complaints. i'm really worried about these changes coming in 1.8 like never before.
NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 248	Posted - 2014.03.05 23:32:00 - [176] - Quote Spaceman-Rob wrote: Completely agree with OP, TTK is fine as it is just now, I run scout suit 80% of the time and have no complaints. i'm really worried about these changes coming in 1.8 like never before. I agree with this as well.. I need to stay off the damn forums I'm about ready to flip @#@#. Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1. Original ROF needs to return!
TEXA5 HiTM4N ROGUE SPADES 454	Posted - 2014.03.06 00:04:00 - [177] - Quote i don't know. if i can fry a heavy with 1200 armor with an exile assault rifle before he has a chance to even shoot at me, I think TTK is a bit too low. not even exaggerating. if you want people to die in under a second, well that would make dust a cookie cutter FPS. Everything I say or do has the utmost importance.
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 3344	Posted - 2014.03.06 03:21:00 - [178] - Quote I do agree that longer TTKs will in no way help noobs. A better player is still a better player. It's just going to make you losing to a better player a torturous experience. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 1463	Posted - 2014.03.06 03:28:00 - [179] - Quote I, for one, welcome these changes. My scout suit can get all the help in the world. ... Except plates. Unless ferroscales get increased health or something.
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1914	Posted - 2014.03.06 03:32:00 - [180] - Quote STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote: I really think its only going to increase TTK to around another second, give or take another half second... even with all the nerfs. Yeah... So marginal it wasn't worth the number crunching in effect. Whatever. Because you Wanted to be Something your Not.



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