This is how I know you were never any good at AV.

You don't go to where the tank is, you go where the tank is going to be.

You don't let them get away, that is why you park the LAV behind them. That forces them to either go over it, crash through it, or go forward, all while you are nading and then charging up a forge.

That you think a tank has to be stopped before you can nade them shows that you have never fought up close with tanks, which is understandable given your obvious lack of skills. I can't believe that you need this stuff explained to you, and you call yourself an AV'er.

Also, proficiency on the turrets only affects the turret turn rate, not the tanks. Didn't you ever hear about knowing your enemy? If you don't know tanks, how do you think you are ready to hunt them?

Cool Story Bro.

And yet you refused to accept my evidence on how not to suck as an HAV player...

Hypocrite much?

And you call my posts loaded

Ah. So now BAD is lacking situation awareness? How pitiful. From the way your riding him I'd think he was much better than that.

An HAV doesn't need to be stopped before you use your AV grenades, but unless you have your sensitivity jacked up to 100 (which I highly doubt considering you were using a FG), you wouldn't be able to get the proper arc needed to throw the AV grenades at a moving HAV, whilst charging a FG shot before he got away.

Yep. Despite investing vast amounts of SP into my Limbus build, and with all my time using Swarm Launchers I definitely have never fought an HAV in CQC. Thanks for contributing to my earlier point.

That was the point. It affects turret rotation speed, so he should have been able turn around and kill you. Especially if you hopped out and charging a FG in a Heavy Frame..

Unless you expect me to believe that you threw AV grenades at BAD with perfect accuracy, whilst also charging a Forge Gun with apparently no resistance from BAD whatsoever.

I don't know tanks huh? That's kinda funny considering how I was a tanker before an AVer, but okay.

I'll leave you with this TL;DR:

Your idea about the minmatar frame is a little strange. How is it weak? It has five high slots with which to pack on shield extenders. Not to mention the current skill that gives you a better sidearm capacity to deal with infantry.

Unless you are running 5 damage mods, in which case you are pretty scrubby, but go and hide on a tower, makes no difference to me. I can see you up there now, you won't be a threat for long.

You could offset the suits lower hp by actually running modules for health instead of trying to squeeze out the last possible damage out of the swarms, but you choose to not do that. Don't complain about your fit when you could make it better.

I already sent you and Crimson mails. Lets see what excuses you have for ducking this tomorrow.

Let's see here:

3x Complex Damage Mods
1x Ishukone Assault Swarm Launcher (The Specialist variant isn't worth the long charge tbh)

The 3 Damage Mods is about 204CPU, plus the 118CPU from the SL means that you have 392 CPU eaten before you even get into fitting your sidearm or AV/Flux Grenades, couple that with the fact that you have to put CPU Enhancers in your low slots (392 CPU doesn't fit well with a Minmatar Assault suit, and at best you'll be able to fit an extra 2 Basic Shield Extenders.

An extra 44HP?... Wow that's so strong

Lol Sidearms. What's the range of Kaalikiota RR again? Now what's the range of an Ishukone ASMG?

Gee, sidearms are so helpful.

Now I've made some pretty damn stupid posts before, but you sir clearly take the cake on this one.

Bro do you even fit suits? What is wrong with your skills?

Complex damage mods take 58 CPU each. So 174, not 204. The SL wouldn't even be 118, because you at least need light weapon ops 3 to spec into them. With light weapon ops to 5 you get under 100.

I just used GBN skills on the dust fitting tool to spec out a minmatar assault build.

3 x Complex damage mods
2x Complex Shield extenders
Wryikomi Swarm Launcher
M209 SMG
Lai Dai Packed AV
K2 Nanohive
Complex CPU upgrade
Basic armor repair

491/567 CPU
84/84 PG
333 Shield
169 armor

So how are your fittings so screwed up that you can't even fill out what you call your primary role? Why is it that any time you post a fitting I can't help but feel bad for you. No wonder you are having no success.

Why do vehicles get the best of both worlds?

complex damage mods take 68 apiece not 58.

Before:
1 AV'er killing 3 tanks is OP


Yeah, you guys never get to talk about underpowered again... ever. You have no credibility left.

By your own logic, this would prevent all AV users from complaining as well.
Because by your logic, "one instance in the past of imbalance is enough to invalidate for the future"

Which is quite a stupid way to look at things.

Anyway, the tank situation is not as bad as some of you AV hypochondriacs whine and moan about.
All that we'll really need to fix it at this point is:
+50M swarm range
A little boost to militia and ADV Swarms (they're supplementary AV however, so expecting them to kill tanks directly is absurd)
Webifiers--- currently a list is available that claims webifiers will slow vehicles by about 70%.
This, in combination with remotes would make a logistics AV a death sentence for any tank that rolled to close.

Hence blasters would still be able to kill at range, but only because close combat would no longer be as safe. etc etc.

Joke post?

Joke post.

You can't honestly think that is even remotely comparible right? So HAVs have a 50 degree elevation restriction, and that totally evens out the invulnerability to 90% of the game, oh and the incredible speed, oh and the cheapness, and being non-sp intensive, and double the range, and double the DPS, and easily travesing terrain that would make a heavy cry, and ....

Well I think I made my point.

Seems to me that there's a trend among you complainers everyone on these forums or on the internets, ever to only take factors into account that supports your views on the matter, while tactically ignoring other factors that might serve to oppose your arguments.

It's making you look rather dishonest and biased.

this is still going O.o

Yeah, I thought it'd either be dead or locked by now.

Guess not?



Wonder if those guys ended up having their showdown?