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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2014.02.22 00:00:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Hmmm, who would be a better source, the muppet who quit the game and was always a crybaby, or the person who still plays and popped Bad Furry with an AV grenade? Yeah, you could always ask him if he got popped with an AV nade, or you could continue living in your imaginary world were everything AV is garbage. If you use them as supplemental damage and not like a primary weapon like scrubs used to, they are very effective. Edit: Here is a reference from said tanker himself: Linky.
Actually, neither you, or BAD are a credible source for anything with such little information.
Were AV grenades the only weapon you used?
How much HP did BAD have left?
Why was BAD close enough to be AV Grenadiered?
A person also stole my HAV kill with a Freedom Mass Driver once. If you answered yes to the first question, then Mass Drivers are an AV weapon, and BAD FURRY is both bad, and should feel bad too.
If you answered no to the first question, then AV weapons are not relevant, and your argument is invalid.
Now lets cast the first two points aside for a moment, and face facts.
One time, I went 60/0 with my HAV.
Another time, my corpmate (The True Inferno) managed to transport my squad to different objectives, and survive AV whilist managing to get a decent amount of kills at the same time (26); numerous times.
Did this mean that AV was balanced and pilots just needed to HTFU and adapt? No?
Then don't expect the same story to pass when you tell AVers to HTFU (which does nothing but contribute to the OP's point about pilots being hypocrite, as pilots have not once adapted).
Stay Classy Attorney.... Stay Classy.
Atiim (Gunnlogi - 80GJ Particle Cannon) Tank Scrub
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No seriously. My lunch break's over now. :(
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2014.02.22 00:05:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Where did the HAV touch you? 
In about the same spot as Jihad Jeeps still manage to touch you 
Atiim (Gunnlogi - 80GJ Particle Cannon) Tank Scrub
AFK
No seriously. My lunch break's over now. :(
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Takron Nistrom
Tinfoil Hatz
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Posted - 2014.02.22 00:07:00 -
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Crimson Cerberes wrote:
Before:
Blah Blah ISK
Now:
200k tank >>>>>>>>>>>> 200k suits
Once again, my 200k AV suit pops tanks all day. So if you can't get it done, get some help from someone who knows what they are doing.
Crimson Cerberes wrote:
Before:
1 AV'er killing 3 tanks is OP
Now:
1 tank killing squads not OP
1 AV'er denying anyone vehicles from up on a tower is probably perfectly balanced to you.
Crimson Cerberes wrote:
Before:
Tanks need teamwork to survive!!
Now:
Tanks should be able to SOLO!! Make AV require teamwork.
Tanks still need a degree of teamwork, especially if you are trying to run a blaster, because any rail tank can just roll up on you and pop you. If you need either another tank or infantry to provide info, that is teamwork.
Again, I am solo'ing tanks, you are just bad.
Crimson Cerberes wrote:
Then:
400M range locks down entire field
Now:
lol railguns and killing infantry at 200 Ms with blasters....
Yeah, you guys never get to talk about underpowered again... ever. You have no credibility left.
Being a poopsocker in this game is like claiming to be good at sex because you beat off all day.
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The Attorney General
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Posted - 2014.02.22 00:15:00 -
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Atiim wrote:
Actually, neither you, or BAD are a credible source for anything with such little information.
Were AV grenades the only weapon you used?
How much HP did BAD have left?
Why was BAD close enough to be AV Grenadiered?
A person also stole my HAV kill with a Freedom Mass Driver once. If you answered yes to the first question, then Mass Drivers are an AV weapon, and BAD FURRY is both bad, and should feel bad too.
If you answered no to the first question, then AV weapons are not relevant, and your argument is invalid.
Why should I answer your questions when you present them ahead of a false dichotomy?
Until you can learn to debate without resorting to childish fallacies, there is no point in being serious with you.
The only conclusion that can be drawn from your post is that you think that AV nades alone should be enough to destroy tanks.
Yet another example of Atiim needing all the aiming done for him.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2014.02.22 00:17:00 -
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Takron Nistrom wrote:Crimson Cerberes wrote:
Before:
Blah Blah ISK
Now:
200k tank >>>>>>>>>>>> 200k suits
Once again, my 200k AV suit pops tanks all day. So if you can't get it done, get some help from someone who knows what they are doing.
My 500k HAV slaughtered everything and survived AV all day. So if you couldn't get it done, you should've gotten help from someone who actually knew what they were doing.Crimson Cerberes wrote:
Before:
1 AV'er killing 3 tanks is OP
Now:
1 tank killing squads not OP
1 AV'er denying anyone vehicles from up on a tower is probably perfectly balanced to you.
And I'm also willing to be that perma-hardened vehicles removing CCP's "wave of opportunity" philosophy is also balanced.Crimson Cerberes wrote:
Before:
Tanks need teamwork to survive!!
Now:
Tanks should be able to SOLO!! Make AV require teamwork.
Tanks still need a degree of teamwork, especially if you are trying to run a blaster, because any rail tank can just roll up on you and pop you. If you need either another tank or infantry to provide info, that is teamwork. Again, I am solo'ing tanks, you are just bad.
I didn't need teamwork, and I still don't need teamwork now. A rail tank can pop up behind you? That's your argument? All I ever have to do is take 3 seconds to check the map to see where the enemy HAVs are at. Your incompetence is not basis for HAVs requiring teamwork.
Again, I was doing fine now and before with teamwork, you are just bad.Crimson Cerberes wrote:
Then:
400M range locks down entire field
Now:
lol railguns and killing infantry at 200 Ms with blasters....
Yeah, you guys never get to talk about underpowered again... ever. You have no credibility left.
Being a poopsocker in this game is like claiming to be good at sex because you beat off all day.
Willfully ignorant. Ignored.
Anecdotal evidence works both ways.
Atiim (Gunnlogi - 80GJ Particle Cannon) Tank Scrub
AFK
No seriously. My lunch break's over now. :(
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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1302
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Posted - 2014.02.22 00:19:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:
no.
I know Bad Furry and an AV grenade is "usefull" for three things in build 1.7
1 wasting isk
2 wasting CPU PG
3makeing Bad Furry and other tankers say LOOK! an IDIOT! with av grenades...
Hmmm, who would be a better source, the muppet who quit the game and was always a crybaby, or the person who still plays and popped Bad Furry with an AV grenade? Yeah, you could always ask him if he got popped with an AV nade, or you could continue living in your imaginary world were everything AV is garbage. If you use them as supplemental damage and not like a primary weapon like scrubs used to, they are very effective. Edit: Here is a reference from said tanker himself: Linky.
I killed a madrugar yesterday with a militia smg.
the militia smg is about as usefull as av grenades
good only to provide a deathblow to a just about dead tank.
av grenades are useless as a primary.
adds you to red star list.
Abandon Ship!, Abandon Ship!!
Jumps into escape pod!
Selected destination Planet PS4.
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Rusty Shallows
1006
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Posted - 2014.02.22 00:21:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:snip
Please, find me some AVers who stuck up for pilots at ANY point in the last eight months.
snip
*raises a hand*. Present and accounted for.
Go back in Feedback and Suggestions. Allot of us supported a steep price cut in Derpships. I expressed concerns over my assault forge gun's effectiveness on newb HAV pilots both there and here. Kind of silly in retrospect considering since Large Rails are more powerful than my iFG ever was.
Here, have some candy and a Like. :-)
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
7393
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Posted - 2014.02.22 00:24:00 -
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Crimson Cerberes wrote:Before:
AV is invulnerable to Tanks (rendering glitch)
Now:
Tanks are invulnerable to infantry and most AV
Before:
Blah Blah ISK
Now:
200k tank >>>>>>>>>>>> 200k suits
Before:
1 AV'er killing 3 tanks is OP
Now:
1 tank killing squads not OP
Before:
Tanks need teamwork to survive!!
Now:
Tanks should be able to SOLO!! Make AV require teamwork.
Then:
400M range locks down entire field
Now:
lol railguns and killing infantry at 200 Ms with blasters....
Yeah, you guys never get to talk about underpowered again... ever. You have no credibility left.
Fair call. But making incendiary statements like this does nothing to benefit the game, community, or improve the situation.
All it does is soothe the wound to your ego.
Tanks now need to be more expensive. The ISK values pre 1.7 are now justified by the power of HAV units.
I've never seen a kill at 200m with a blaster, rendering range is far less than 200m so it was most likely a luck shot more than something that can be consistently replicated.
HAV are no longer UP, not at all. AV is slightly UP.
So the simplest way to ensure some semblance of balance is to set the damage of AV using perhaps the current damage models, and tweak the stats of all vehicles to be balanced around those AV values.
"Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
4974
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Posted - 2014.02.22 00:36:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:
Why should I answer your questions when you present them ahead of a false dichotomy?
Until you can learn to debate without resorting to childish fallacies, there is no point in being serious with you.
The only conclusion that can be drawn from your post is that you think that AV nades alone should be enough to destroy tanks.
Yet another example of Atiim needing all the aiming done for him.
So you were pinned and took the cheap way out. How sad.
Your talking about childish fallacies?
You do realize that a vast majority of your arguments involve ad-hominem, baseless assumptions and personal attacks based on a person's Corporation Status, and so many logical fallacies that my previous statement could debunk almost everything you've ever debated about..... right?
Even now, you only serve to prove my point. And you claim me to be childish? Pitiful.
It seems as if you missed the point, so let me re-iterate.
Unless you can disprove my first statement, AV grenades are both irrelevant and usless as an AV weapon. Even for vehicle suppression.
I don't need aiming to be done for me. If I did then I would have Aim Assist on and I wouldn't be able to use Railguns as well as I do (and did pre 1.7)
Personally, I believe that AV Grenades should be high damaging on the following basis:
- AV grenades have a pitiful range. If you get close enough to be pelted by AV Grenades, you deserve the punishment for your lack of situational awareness.
- The tracking radii of AV Grenades is so small that you'd practically always land a hit regardless of the tracking feature
Which gives me an idea.
Breach AV Grenade: Extreme damage and explodes on contact, but lack a tracking feature. Hows that sound?
Atiim (Gunnlogi - 80GJ Particle Cannon) Tank Scrub
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The Attorney General
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Posted - 2014.02.22 00:45:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:
av grenades are useless as a primary.
adds you to red star list.
The truth comes out, Tech Ohm wants to not give up an anti infantry weapon but he still wants to smash vehicles.
Somebody wants the best of both worlds.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
4974
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Posted - 2014.02.22 00:49:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:av grenades are useless as a primary.
adds you to red star list. The truth comes out, Tech Ohm wants to not give up an anti infantry weapon but he still wants to smash vehicles. Somebody wants the best of both worlds.
Why do vehicles get the best of both worlds?
Atiim (Gunnlogi - 80GJ Particle Cannon) Tank Scrub
AFK
No seriously. My lunch break's over now. :(
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The Attorney General
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Posted - 2014.02.22 00:52:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Unless you can disprove my first statement, AV grenades are both irrelevant and usless as an AV weapon. Even for vehicle suppression. I don't need aiming to be done for me. If I did then I would have Aim Assist on and I wouldn't be able to use Railguns as well as I do (and did pre 1.7) Personally, I believe that AV Grenades should be high damaging on the following basis:
- AV grenades have a pitiful range. If you get close enough to be pelted by AV Grenades, you deserve the punishment for your lack of situational awareness.
- The tracking radii of AV Grenades is so small that you'd practically always land a hit regardless of the tracking feature
Which gives me an idea. Breach AV Grenade: Extreme damage and explodes on contact, but lack a tracking feature. Hows that sound?
So you think AV nades should be able to destroy vehicles by themselves?
I find AV nades to be excellent supplemental damage to my forge. Not my fault if you don't know how to get in close and fight tanks.
If you want AV nades to be enough to destroy vehicles, then you are asking to be able to carry a primary anti infantry weapon and still have an effective AV option. You try and deride tankers for allegedly wanting that very thing. Then you talk about hypocrisy right?
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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The Attorney General
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Posted - 2014.02.22 00:53:00 -
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Atiim wrote:
Why do vehicles get the best of both worlds?
Clearly you have never tanked.
Although, if you think you have the best of both worlds, I challenge you to run a blaster tank in a match versus me. We will then see how well you can handle tanks AND infantry.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
4974
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Posted - 2014.02.22 00:56:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:
Clearly you have never tanked.
Although, if you think you have the best of both worlds, I challenge you to run a blaster tank in a match versus me. We will then see how well you can handle tanks AND infantry.
1. 20GJ Particle Cannons
2. XT-1 Missile Launchers
3. Grab Damage Modifiers if necessary.
4. Slaughter both Infantry, AV, and vehicles alike.
5. Profit.
But apparently it's all about that 80GJ
Atiim (Gunnlogi - 80GJ Particle Cannon) Tank Scrub
AFK
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Scheneighnay McBob
Learning Coalition College
4108
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Posted - 2014.02.22 01:00:00 -
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HAVs have always been viable to solo in, that that part of the before/after isn't needed.
I am your scan error.
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The Attorney General
2200
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Posted - 2014.02.22 01:02:00 -
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Atiim wrote:The Attorney General wrote:
Clearly you have never tanked.
Although, if you think you have the best of both worlds, I challenge you to run a blaster tank in a match versus me. We will then see how well you can handle tanks AND infantry.
1. 20GJ Particle Cannons 2. XT-1 Missile Launchers 3. Grab Damage Modifiers if necessary. 4. Slaughter both Infantry, AV, and vehicles alike. 5. Profit. But apparently it's all about that 80GJ
In order to support your argument, you would have to do it solo.
If you think that fit survives against a rail, you haven't met a real tanker.
Stop pretending.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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Rusty Shallows
1008
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Posted - 2014.02.22 01:03:00 -
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Nothing Certain wrote:snip
What happened prior to 1.7 was kind if before my time, i was too new to notice tank imbalance but it seems clear that there was an imbalance and human nature being what it is, i have little doubt the AV'ers are guilty of hypocrisy as well. The tankers and AV'ers are drawing from the same well of players and i am sure there was lots of advice to HTFU and get gud from the AVer's to the tankers. That doesn't make it a legitimate response in return, it only continues the cycle of stupidity.
It was more complicated than that. HTFU is a an old Eve standard reply, we use it in Dust all the time for everything. The imbalance wasn't so perfectly one-sided either. That was part of a 2013 political campaign that ended in success with Uprising 1.7
I'm not a fan of generalizing people into groups. All the more is the pity since negative politicking is what works. Those of us who tried looking at situations academically were/are ignored in favor CCPs careless nerfing. Matters only get worse because post nerfs innocent people are then rubber stamped as being part of a "side." Char-Char O'Dell would be an example of HAV TC who took heat over the changes that he never even supported.
Wether it be Dust 514 or Eve Online there is Forum Meta-game at play. Approach everything here with Critical Thinking unless you want to get tricked.
Here, have some candy and a Like. :-)
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Godin Thekiller
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
1732
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Posted - 2014.02.22 01:03:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Where did the HAV touch you? In about the same spot as Jihad Jeeps still manage to touch you
More like rammed me. Yet, he quit, and I didn't, so I win. At least I acknowledged that my role's broken
'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever!
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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.02.22 01:09:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:
av grenades are useless as a primary.
adds you to red star list.
The truth comes out, Tech Ohm wants to not give up an anti infantry weapon but he still wants to smash vehicles. Somebody wants the best of both worlds.
no.
I want av grenades to be usefull for killing JEEPS ONLY.
And as support for forges.
but 750 damage is USELESS.
av grenades are USELESS.
Abandon Ship!, Abandon Ship!!
Jumps into escape pod!
Selected destination Planet PS4.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
4980
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Posted - 2014.02.22 01:17:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:So you think AV nades should be able to destroy vehicles by themselves?
I find AV nades to be excellent supplemental damage to my forge. Not my fault if you don't know how to get in close and fight tanks.
If you want AV nades to be enough to destroy vehicles, then you are asking to be able to carry a primary anti infantry weapon and still have an effective AV option. You try and deride tankers for allegedly wanting that very thing. Then you talk about hypocrisy right?
inb4 Facts.
Every practically every last one of my 'AV' kills have always been in CQC. Even with my Particle Cannon.
If you use a Forge Gun, on a Heavy Frame, why did BAD FURRY allow you to get so close to him? You move at 3m/s FFS.
I guess his name is BAD FURRY for a reason.
Seems as if you missed my point once more.
My idea for a Breach AV grenade would basically be the equivalent to what a Flux Grenade does to Gunnlogies. Not straight up kill, but definitely leave them running with a tail between your legs.
Didn't you yourself say that if AV grenades didn't have a tracking feature, they could deal the same amount of damage as Flux Grenades?
inb4 Even More Facts
The Attorney General will be the first to call for a Minmatar Commando nerf.
Atiim (Gunnlogi - 80GJ Particle Cannon) Tank Scrub
I've adapted, and soon I will HTFU...
...Permanently. In a Gunnlogi
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Aeon Amadi
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.22 01:19:00 -
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Atiim wrote:The Attorney General wrote:
Clearly you have never tanked.
Although, if you think you have the best of both worlds, I challenge you to run a blaster tank in a match versus me. We will then see how well you can handle tanks AND infantry.
1. 20GJ Particle Cannons 2. XT-1 Missile Launchers 3. Grab Damage Modifiers if necessary. 4. Slaughter both Infantry, AV, and vehicles alike. 5. Profit. But apparently it's all about that 80GJ
Atiim, give it up bro. Any argument with Attorney General just ends up summarizing this picture: http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4se00IBwc1r3jsrko1_500.jpg
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2014.02.22 01:20:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:In order to support your argument, you would have to do it solo.
If you think that fit survives against a rail, you haven't met a real tanker.
Stop pretending.
Then please explain DUST Fiend's YouTube channel.
Atiim (Gunnlogi - 80GJ Particle Cannon) Tank Scrub
I've adapted, and soon I will HTFU...
...Permanently. In a Gunnlogi
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medomai grey
WarRavens
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.02.22 01:30:00 -
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[munches on his popcorn] Can't we all get along! [continues to munch on more popcorn]
Jokes aside Atiim and The_ Attorney_General, It is possible to destroy a tank with AV, but it isn't as easy as The_Attorney_General makes it out to be.
To take down a tank with AV in the current Dust 514, you need to:
-Use high tier AV weaponry and gear that will cost more than a mlt tank fit. This should sound very odd to you.
-Use team work that requires so much manpower that it will cost you the match. This is definitely not balanced.
-Call in a mlt rail tank which is cheaper, has more survivability, and hits harder and farther than running AV as infantry.
Blatant Dust_514 recruiting in the silliest of places. :P
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The Attorney General
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Posted - 2014.02.22 01:43:00 -
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Atiim wrote:The Attorney General wrote:So you think AV nades should be able to destroy vehicles by themselves?
I find AV nades to be excellent supplemental damage to my forge. Not my fault if you don't know how to get in close and fight tanks.
If you want AV nades to be enough to destroy vehicles, then you are asking to be able to carry a primary anti infantry weapon and still have an effective AV option. You try and deride tankers for allegedly wanting that very thing. Then you talk about hypocrisy right?
inb4 Facts. Every practically every last one of my 'AV' kills have always been in CQC. Even with my Particle Cannon. If you use a Forge Gun, on a Heavy Frame, why did BAD FURRY allow you to get so close to him? You move at 3m/s FFS. I guess his name is BAD FURRY for a reason.
Seems as if you missed my point once more. My idea for a Breach AV grenade would basically be the equivalent to what a Flux Grenade does to Gunnlogies. Not straight up kill, but definitely leave them running with a tail between your legs. Didn't you yourself say that if AV grenades didn't have a tracking feature, they could deal the same amount of damage as Flux Grenades? inb4 Even More Facts
Unless you prove yourself somewhere as a tanker, I wouldn't go slandering your betters. When you are hiding in the redline, afraid of my forge, you will understand that Furry has more heart and skill than you.
If you think that heavies are meant to walk up to tanks, you clearly haven't been reading about how AV is done. LAV, AV or Flux and the Forge, you use all three. If you don't mitigate the weaknesses of your suit, you are not doing it right.
Finally, I made no such statement, although I support it in theory.
Stop spending so much time on the forums, and get in game so I can solo you.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
4999
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Posted - 2014.02.22 02:09:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Unless you prove yourself somewhere as a tanker, I wouldn't go slandering your betters. When you are hiding in the redline, afraid of my forge, you will understand that Furry has more heart and skill than you.
If you think that heavies are meant to walk up to tanks, you clearly haven't been reading about how AV is done. LAV, AV or Flux and the Forge, you use all three. If you don't mitigate the weaknesses of your suit, you are not doing it right.
Finally, I made no such statement, although I support it in theory.
Stop spending so much time on the forums, and get in game so I can solo you.
So now BAD allowed an LAV to sneak up on him?
I guess that would fly, but isn't BAD a dedicated tanker? And don't dedicated tankers have SP into the Proficiency Skill at V which should offer better turning capabilities?
Even if he didn't, he would still have to stop in order to have allowed you to chuck AV grenades at him.
And wouldn't he also have to already be nearly dead for the AV grenades to work on him? Or did he allow you to jump out and charge your FG and fire at him repeatedly?
But wouldn't a Complex Armor Repairer have already repped his HP back in the time it would take to jump him in a LAV in the first place?
Something in your story doesn't quite check out.
I do strictly remember you saying that, but I won't waste my time digging through GD if you agree with the idea.
I'm not at my home atm, so unfortunately I can't. Send me some mail about what time is convenient for you and I'll be happy to tomorrow.
The weakness of the Minmatar Assault is literal weakness, and the fact that it has the defense and Anti-Infantry power of a Starter Fit. I guess mitigating it's weakness would be going on a tower where my weakness wouldn't hinder me right?
According to your logic, yes. Ironically that also makes you a scrub according to your logic.
Atiim (Gunnlogi - 80GJ Particle Cannon) Tank Scrub
I've adapted, and soon I will HTFU...
...Permanently. In a Gunnlogi
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The Attorney General
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Posted - 2014.02.22 02:20:00 -
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Atiim wrote:
So now BAD allowed an LAV to sneak up on him?
I guess that would fly, but isn't BAD a dedicated tanker? And don't dedicated tankers have SP into the Proficiency Skill at V which should offer better turning capabilities?
Even if he didn't, he would still have to stop in order to have allowed you to chuck AV grenades at him.
And wouldn't he also have to already be nearly dead for the AV grenades to work on him? Or did he allow you to jump out and charge your FG and fire at him repeatedly?
But wouldn't a Complex Armor Repairer have already repped his HP back in the time it would take to jump him in a LAV in the first place?
Something in your story doesn't quite check out.
This is how I know you were never any good at AV.
You don't go to where the tank is, you go where the tank is going to be.
You don't let them get away, that is why you park the LAV behind them. That forces them to either go over it, crash through it, or go forward, all while you are nading and then charging up a forge.
That you think a tank has to be stopped before you can nade them shows that you have never fought up close with tanks, which is understandable given your obvious lack of skills. I can't believe that you need this stuff explained to you, and you call yourself an AV'er.
Also, proficiency on the turrets only affects the turret turn rate, not the tanks. Didn't you ever hear about knowing your enemy? If you don't know tanks, how do you think you are ready to hunt them?
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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LuckyLuke Wargan
HavoK Core
RISE of LEGION
308
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Posted - 2014.02.22 02:25:00 -
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Hey! Just stopping by to say that tanker are whining little bitches... that is all... please resume.
"Cry HavoK!, and let slip the dogs of war!"
-Medical/Intel Logibro and Swarm Commando-
I feed on tanker tears...
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The Attorney General
2206
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Posted - 2014.02.22 02:26:00 -
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Atiim wrote:I do strictly remember you saying that, but I won't waste my time digging through GD if you agree with the idea. I'm not at my home atm, so unfortunately I can't. Send me some mail about what time is convenient for you and I'll be happy to tomorrow. The weakness of the Minmatar Assault is literal weakness, and the fact that it has the defense and Anti-Infantry power of a Starter Fit. I guess mitigating it's weakness would be going on a tower where my weakness wouldn't hinder me right? According to your logic, yes. Ironically that also makes you a scrub according to your logic.
Your idea about the minmatar frame is a little strange. How is it weak? It has five high slots with which to pack on shield extenders. Not to mention the current skill that gives you a better sidearm capacity to deal with infantry.
Unless you are running 5 damage mods, in which case you are pretty scrubby, but go and hide on a tower, makes no difference to me. I can see you up there now, you won't be a threat for long.
You could offset the suits lower hp by actually running modules for health instead of trying to squeeze out the last possible damage out of the swarms, but you choose to not do that. Don't complain about your fit when you could make it better.
I already sent you and Crimson mails. Lets see what excuses you have for ducking this tomorrow.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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LuckyLuke Wargan
HavoK Core
RISE of LEGION
308
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Posted - 2014.02.22 02:27:00 -
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Holy Crap! How did this get past the filter?
"Cry HavoK!, and let slip the dogs of war!"
-Medical/Intel Logibro and Swarm Commando-
I feed on tanker tears...
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
1766
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Posted - 2014.02.22 02:41:00 -
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Atiim wrote:I find it so funny how tankers called me a hypocrite before 1.7, and then lolUprising lol.8 lolTanker posts happened
We all underestimated the massive buff Atiim.
Perhaps we should apologize for the trolololololing that went on. Sorry.
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