A freshly bought unmodified assault dropship costs about as much as a decently fitted tank (certainly more than a very effective 70k tank). There is no reason why it should be so costly.

Basic dropship 45k
Assault dropship 323k (costs much more when fully well fitted)

I believe that specializations for vehicles and dropsuits should be more expensive than their basic counterparts, but it should be like a 20% increase. Right now an assault dropship has over a 7x increase in price compared to a basic dropship.

An assault dropship with only a small turret for the pilot should not be cheaper or cost more than a tank with substantially more HP and firepower capable of ruing the lives of infantry. It is no way ok that being an assault dropship pilot should mean living in poverty.

Assault dropship prices need to be severely cut.

EDIT: I think around 120k-150k would be an acceptable base price.

....... NO.
Actually a Well fitted Drophip is INVICIBLE. 8 Players with AV can't take him down. (Hardeners/ booster/ faster than swarms , can simply go away.)
Have you ever see an good assault dropship killed ? Not me.

Vehicules are actually indestructible if not by an another, why a vehicule that AT LEAST take down 10 player or a tank (if bad) should cost same than ONE footsoldier ?

An assault dropship acutally kill at least 10/20 players before getting destroyed...oh wait he's not destroyed if a rail tank don't shoot it.

NO

I don't see why their price should be cut...

My tanks are around 500K ISK and I am not asking for its price to be decreased given that jihad LAVs can destroy it at 0 ISK with BPOs or ~20K ISK without them.

I could buy a rifter for less than 300k in Eve. ADS may be a bit expensive for how fragile they are.

Large rail guns now have 300m range...

And hardeners got nerfed. Soooo ADS V forge is going to be a little more sketchy.

Really? Wow CCP...you really porked the patch notes.

These changes where post patch, they were from the recent server side hotfix that happened today and yesterday.

Since hardeners were the major thing keeping dropships alive, assault dropships really need their price cut more than ever since it is so much easier to take them out now.

The only thing keeping dropships from being the new tanks now is the forge gun and the price.

Yesterday, I noticed a bunch of dropship pilots flying none stop harassing players.

I decidd to pull out a gorgon w/ all its prefits, added mlt 60m plate, mlt after burner, mlt scanner (with no skills into dropships at all). I flew around none stop, an was scared away a few times by forges, but escaped easily, regened, than returned.

After some time I started to get bored, so I started baiting the ADS away from the infanttry by rammin/ attempting to ram them. This would cause them to try to shoot me down none stop (usually fail). Id escape and regen and return. Ive even learned a safer way to crash them without causing catastrophic damage to myself. This method does not reward me the kills unfortunately.

I lost only 2 dropships yesterday to forges, about 4 from ramming and taking out other dropships. Only 1 to an ADS actually shooting me down. The best method for taking down an ADS is a mlt dropship.

A freshly bought unmodified assault dropship costs about as much as a decently fitted tank (certainly more than a very effective 70k tank). There is no reason why it should be so costly.

Basic dropship 45k
Assault dropship 323k (costs much more when fully well fitted)

I believe that specializations for vehicles and dropsuits should be more expensive than their basic counterparts, but it should be like a 20% increase. Right now an assault dropship has over a 7x increase in price compared to a basic dropship.

An assault dropship with only a small turret for the pilot should not be cheaper or cost more than a tank with substantially more HP and firepower capable of ruing the lives of infantry. It is no way ok that being an assault dropship pilot should mean living in poverty.

Assault dropship prices need to be severely cut.

EDIT: I think around 120k-150k would be an acceptable base price.

this is true ... but 70k for a tank is also stupid compared to a suit or even a weapon.

This is true. Currently the Rail tanks are the only thing keeping them in line.

I can't believe I am only getting to this thread now. I have been flying since Chromosome. I remember it all. Dropships have never really had a buff. And you can't really count the ADS as a buff due to the sacrifice of eHP and PG/CPU for maneuverability and a pilot gun. I don't think a lot of the people here making comments have flown or tried to fly an ADS. They take work and skill to keep afloat and forgeguns/swarms with their ridiculous knockback keeps them detained fairly easily. Even with the railgun tank nerf, they still have no drop off. The small railgun turret (which I have seen for myself) has a damage dropoff. Why doesn't the large?

Anyways, to the point: my ADS costs 500k to run with 1 turret and all complex modules. With the armor hardener nerf, FGs are chipping my armor even harder and rail tanks just rip it apart. When I fight forgefunners, the only counter I have to them is pulling a Battlefield Bad Company/3/4 Apache maneuver and spin around them nearly vertically. That tactic in itself it entirely negated by a single swarm or rail tank.

I fail to see you people who claim the ADS should remain as it costs when losing one sends me red. The ADS with its ~300k hull is 80% of the cost. The XT-1 missile turret is 10% and the modules are that last 10&. As a pilot since closed beta I find it hard to scrape in money. I've pretty much been begging the rich for handouts because I can't keep up with the cost. (All these people with too much money and nothing to spend it on need to spend it somewhere, right?). I am completely in favor of reducing the price to ~150k. That would allow us to run into a match with ~300k fits and allow it to be more sustainable (in theory). Plus if ***** pilots tried spamming the ADS me and all the other actual pilots would be having field days.

I can't believe I am only getting to this thread now. I have been flying since Chromosome. I remember it all. Dropships have never really had a buff. And you can't really count the ADS as a buff due to the sacrifice of eHP and PG/CPU for maneuverability and a pilot gun. I don't think a lot of the people here making comments have flown or tried to fly an ADS. They take work and skill to keep afloat and forgeguns/swarms with their ridiculous knockback keeps them detained fairly easily. Even with the railgun tank nerf, they still have no drop off. The small railgun turret (which I have seen for myself) has a damage dropoff. Why doesn't the large?

Anyways, to the point: my ADS costs 500k to run with 1 turret and all complex modules. With the armor hardener nerf, FGs are chipping my armor even harder and rail tanks just rip it apart. When I fight forgefunners, the only counter I have to them is pulling a Battlefield Bad Company/3/4 Apache maneuver and spin around them nearly vertically. That tactic in itself it entirely negated by a single swarm or rail tank.

I fail to see you people who claim the ADS should remain as it costs when losing one sends me red. The ADS with its ~300k hull is 80% of the cost. The XT-1 missile turret is 10% and the modules are that last 10&. As a pilot since closed beta I find it hard to scrape in money. I've pretty much been begging the rich for handouts because I can't keep up with the cost. (All these people with too much money and nothing to spend it on need to spend it somewhere, right?). I am completely in favor of reducing the price to ~150k. That would allow us to run into a match with ~300k fits and allow it to be more sustainable (in theory). Plus if ***** pilots tried spamming the ADS me and all the other actual pilots would be having field days.

A freshly bought unmodified assault dropship costs about as much as a decently fitted tank (certainly more than a very effective 70k tank). There is no reason why it should be so costly.

Basic dropship 45k
Assault dropship 323k (costs much more when fully well fitted)

I believe that specializations for vehicles and dropsuits should be more expensive than their basic counterparts, but it should be like a 20% increase. Right now an assault dropship has over a 7x increase in price compared to a basic dropship.

An assault dropship with only a small turret for the pilot should not be cheaper or cost more than a tank with substantially more HP and firepower capable of ruing the lives of infantry. It is no way ok that being an assault dropship pilot should mean living in poverty.

Assault dropship prices need to be severely cut.

EDIT: I think around 120k-150k would be an acceptable base price.

I wouldn't mind that especially if HAV finally got their specific racial skills like ADS do.