Assault dropship VS Assault dropship fights are the most pathetic spectacle I have ever witnessed in a video game. Neither side can do enough damage. You hover about in the air pointing noses at one another like OAP`s ballroom dancing.

This game is just one big laughing stock.

Well they never die though. They can be tanked pretty well and can hide behind the altitude ceiling, so in effect they have a built-in redline capability - to me that should cost money.

Edit: and they are much harder for infantry to hide from than from tanks.

It's not the dropship, the point of my discussion is when rail tanks are nerfed there will be nothing left to take them out. so why do they deserve a price reduction?

Tough, check my sig on reasons why. It costs me around 270k isk to Proto my Proto, sounds like the Assault DS needs to go up in price.

A freshly bought unmodified assault dropship costs about as much as a decently fitted tank (certainly more than a very effective 70k tank). There is no reason why it should be so costly.

Basic dropship 45k
Assault dropship 323k (costs much more when fully well fitted)

I believe that specializations for vehicles and dropsuits should be more expensive than their basic counterparts, but it should be like a 20% increase. Right now an assault dropship has over a 7x increase in price compared to a basic dropship.

An assault dropship with only a small turret for the pilot should not be cheaper or cost more than a tank with substantially more HP and firepower capable of ruing the lives of infantry. It is no way ok that being an assault dropship pilot should mean living in poverty.

Assault dropship prices need to be severely cut.

EDIT: I think around 120k-150k would be an acceptable base price.

As both a proto forge gunner and ads pilot all I can smell here is bullshit... I don't even have damage mods and I can solo a friggin ads, them things is squishy... Bring in a swarmer or another forger and suddenly you've got a dropship graveyard piling up.

If you can't take a dropship without a redlining rail tank, then you sir need to go back to the training grounds.

I need to just stop skilling into the assault dropship. You would think I would of learned by now.

A freshly bought unmodified assault dropship costs about as much as a decently fitted tank (certainly more than a very effective 70k tank). There is no reason why it should be so costly.

Basic dropship 45k
Assault dropship 323k (costs much more when fully well fitted)

I believe that specializations for vehicles and dropsuits should be more expensive than their basic counterparts, but it should be like a 20% increase. Right now an assault dropship has over a 7x increase in price compared to a basic dropship.

An assault dropship with only a small turret for the pilot should not be cheaper or cost more than a tank with substantially more HP and firepower capable of ruing the lives of infantry. It is no way ok that being an assault dropship pilot should mean living in poverty.

Assault dropship prices need to be severely cut.

EDIT: I think around 120k-150k would be an acceptable base price.

Many dropship pilots agree with you, myself included. Light av should be buffed a bit, though it should take at least two swarms to bring down a proto fit dropship or else dropships would just be really expensive suits. I wouldn't mind giving the forge gun less of a charge up time but I have seen some talented forge gunners fight off dropships in 1.7.
I have great respect for forge gunners because they need as much skill as a dropship pilot to do their job. Unlike rail tanks.

I can understand your concerns for assault dropships going the way of the tank. Let me reassure you, good assault dropship pilots have spent way to much time getting good at flying to make it into an op FOTM. Dropships are challenging and that's fun, without a challenge it would be stale.
It takes far too much sp to be a FOTM anyway because you need at least 5mil skill points to be effective as an assault dropship pilot, something every ace pilot is proud of.

Assault dropship spam won't happen, and would be hilarious to watch if rookies tried. To become proficient at flying you have to spend a couple months flying and getting shot down. I have flown in dropship squadrons and it is chaos, dropships crash into each other all the time, redline rails make short work of them and av makes collisions happen all the time. The squadrons I flew with contained some of the best pilots I know on dust and it was very hard to keep everything coordinated. If you want to fly in a squadron you need 6 months minimum of flight time plus a few weeks of flying with another dropship before you even consider becoming a squadron pilot. ADS spam is only for very experienced pilots and even then its very easily countered, trust me I know.

Anyway glad you can see where we are coming from, have a good night, come fly with us sometime and see what we are talking about.

(Also I'm starting to realize how backwards the dropship world is compared to the rest of dust)

if assault dropships were cheap we would have aerial taks with xt missiles every where. and the reason they are more expensive is to keep them from being unspammable. i mean dropships get around MUCH faster than tanks and maybe LAV's are unhindered by terrain and are kept at bay by forges and railguns (a littler to well) so if these things were ridiculsy cheap chances of getting form point A to B without being attacked by an assault DS with xt missile would be nigh.

Yeah they shouldn't be as cheap as milita tanks. But what about a complex fit gunnlogi? I don't have my turrets yet by for complex mods it only runs me 223k. That's still 100k cheaper than my assault dropships chassis with NOTHING ON IT. Let's put a proto rail turret on the gunnlogi and we get something like 450k for complex mods and a proto turret. 300k less than an assault dropship with a similar fit. Only the rail tank can destroy anything in about a clip and can sit in the redline and kill. So why shouldn't the assault dropships chassis cost 250k? That's one game to get the chassis with no mods or guns. Cheap? An assault dropship pilot would say yes, a grunt would say no.

The ADS will never be a FoTM.

You have to dedicate a huge chunk of SP to buy and fit one, and then you have to send a few weeks learning to fly.
All during that time you will be buying many ships to replace those you crash and those shot out from under you.

I could buy a rifter for less than 300k in Eve. ADS may be a bit expensive for how fragile they are.

A freshly bought unmodified assault dropship costs about as much as a decently fitted tank (certainly more than a very effective 70k tank). There is no reason why it should be so costly.

Basic dropship 45k
Assault dropship 323k (costs much more when fully well fitted)

I believe that specializations for vehicles and dropsuits should be more expensive than their basic counterparts, but it should be like a 20% increase. Right now an assault dropship has over a 7x increase in price compared to a basic dropship.

An assault dropship with only a small turret for the pilot should not be cheaper or cost more than a tank with substantially more HP and firepower capable of ruing the lives of infantry. It is no way ok that being an assault dropship pilot should mean living in poverty.

Assault dropship prices need to be severely cut.

EDIT: I think around 120k-150k would be an acceptable base price.