They need to stay expensive in order to prevent spam.

Case and point, tanks.

It's not the dropship, the point of my discussion is when rail tanks are nerfed there will be nothing left to take them out. so why do they deserve a price reduction?

Fair enough guys you have convinced me, make them cheaper, but there has to be a counter besides a rail tank. If AV is not buffed then things are going to be in a terrible state.

I have knocked off a few with my forge gun but it's hardly reliable against a good pilot with a 2.5- 3 sec charge time. These kills are mostly guys that don't move after the first hit, who knows why not.

I just got my back up a bit because the sentiments you guys were putting across were very similar to pre 1.7 tank threads and look what happened.

Any way thanks for the discussion. i'm out.

Insanely high cost goes hand and hand with being insanely overpowered.

Agreed, it should be more (it's a tech 2 hull after all), but it shouldn't be THAT much more.

Sadly, once Caps get ahold of manufacturing, it'll be a lot more

Many dropship pilots agree with you, myself included. Light av should be buffed a bit, though it should take at least two swarms to bring down a proto fit dropship or else dropships would just be really expensive suits. I wouldn't mind giving the forge gun less of a charge up time but I have seen some talented forge gunners fight off dropships in 1.7.
I have great respect for forge gunners because they need as much skill as a dropship pilot to do their job. Unlike rail tanks.

I can understand your concerns for assault dropships going the way of the tank. Let me reassure you, good assault dropship pilots have spent way to much time getting good at flying to make it into an op FOTM. Dropships are challenging and that's fun, without a challenge it would be stale.
It takes far too much sp to be a FOTM anyway because you need at least 5mil skill points to be effective as an assault dropship pilot, something every ace pilot is proud of.

Assault dropship spam won't happen, and would be hilarious to watch if rookies tried. To become proficient at flying you have to spend a couple months flying and getting shot down. I have flown in dropship squadrons and it is chaos, dropships crash into each other all the time, redline rails make short work of them and av makes collisions happen all the time. The squadrons I flew with contained some of the best pilots I know on dust and it was very hard to keep everything coordinated. If you want to fly in a squadron you need 6 months minimum of flight time plus a few weeks of flying with another dropship before you even consider becoming a squadron pilot. ADS spam is only for very experienced pilots and even then its very easily countered, trust me I know.

Anyway glad you can see where we are coming from, have a good night, come fly with us sometime and see what we are talking about.

(Also I'm starting to realize how backwards the dropship world is compared to the rest of dust)

I mean opposite of the normal ideology of dust. Pythons fit proto to survive rather than slay, spam is actually worse than just 3 ADS and is only effective with skilled pilots as opposed to tank spam or cal logies back in the day, dropships fly, they cost a lot in both sp and isk for something that is very fragile. Pretty backwards from your average grunts perspective I dunno maybe I'm just tired....

NO

I don't see why their price should be cut...

My tanks are around 500K ISK and I am not asking for its price to be decreased given that jihad LAVs can destroy it at 0 ISK with BPOs or ~20K ISK without them.