If you would have killed me twice I would have sent you 3million ISK. I send hate mail to snipers because they annoy me.
They are either shooting me, making it so I have to wait longer to get back into the game or sitting in the redline allowing there team to lose.

I was playing around tonight and noticed two things that sort of tie into one another.
Since CCP's new Executive Producer wanted to "turn up the action", I noticed something in Ambush OMS games and it ties to an earlier thought I had about redline sniping.

First things first: Redline Snipers.
You know when you play basketball, and if you shoot the ball and goes into the basket, but your foot stepped out of bounds, the shot doesn't count? Why would a sniper be allowed to sit out of bounds and still get rewarded with doing damage?

Now, I'm not venting about it. In fact, snipers are MEANINGLESS in this game. They don't contribute, even in Ambush game modes. Snipers can b*tch all they want about that, but face facts; snipers make no impact on games other than being nuisances. If I get killed by one, I really don't care, because its only one death and it won't happen again.

These maps are plenty big enough where the sniper can still have major distance without being out of bounds in the red zone.

How this ties into tighter maps: Shrinking games?
In all the Ambush OMS games I played tonight, as I looked over the map before i spawned in I noticed how small the space was. We were playing OMS in standard Ambush spaces, and Turrets even dropped. I am wondering if this is one of CCPs attempts to turn up the action? Because all those Ambush games were over in 5 minutes, just like a standard Ambush game would be, because the time between kill waves is tighter because of the tighter maps.

If this is the case, then smaller maps will hurt snipers in this game and render them to Call of Duty type of playstyles because you can't get enough distance between you and the enemy. But at the same time, I had good Shotgun performances tonight because of the tighter maps. I suppose tighter OMS games wouldn't be a bad thing, as long as the large games stay in the rotation as well.

well then I think you may owe me 3mil if not more :D

I guess it's because we annoy him or slow his advances while we are in play. That is the only reason I can see.

I don't begrudge a sniper redlining if their whole team is redlined, I just prefer to try to get around the enemy, when I'm on my scout alt, and take them from behind. What bugs me is the snipers who redline even when their team isn't redlined.

I was playing around tonight and noticed two things that sort of tie into one another.
Since CCP's new Executive Producer wanted to "turn up the action", I noticed something in Ambush OMS games and it ties to an earlier thought I had about redline sniping.

First things first: Redline Snipers.
You know when you play basketball, and if you shoot the ball and goes into the basket, but your foot stepped out of bounds, the shot doesn't count? Why would a sniper be allowed to sit out of bounds and still get rewarded with doing damage?

Now, I'm not venting about it. In fact, snipers are MEANINGLESS in this game. They don't contribute, even in Ambush game modes. Snipers can b*tch all they want about that, but face facts; snipers make no impact on games other than being nuisances. If I get killed by one, I really don't care, because its only one death and it won't happen again.

These maps are plenty big enough where the sniper can still have major distance without being out of bounds in the red zone.

How this ties into tighter maps: Shrinking games?
In all the Ambush OMS games I played tonight, as I looked over the map before i spawned in I noticed how small the space was. We were playing OMS in standard Ambush spaces, and Turrets even dropped. I am wondering if this is one of CCPs attempts to turn up the action? Because all those Ambush games were over in 5 minutes, just like a standard Ambush game would be, because the time between kill waves is tighter because of the tighter maps.

If this is the case, then smaller maps will hurt snipers in this game and render them to Call of Duty type of playstyles because you can't get enough distance between you and the enemy. But at the same time, I had good Shotgun performances tonight because of the tighter maps. I suppose tighter OMS games wouldn't be a bad thing, as long as the large games stay in the rotation as well.

HOLY CRAP A CORP MATE USES THE FORUMS!

Corp buddy!!

I thought I'd never see the day.

I finally have a real forum friend.

Also, were you the one sniping in those FW matches? Or was that Ruunt?

We played a few amarr FW yesterday be we mostly play ambush and skirmish

Oh. Well i don't play Amarr FW, but I hope it was fun.

Have you seen Dark or Athena on lately? I want to ask them something.

Is it just me or do these BBW guys ***** a lot?

Haven't seen athena and I think I saw Dark pop on then just leave. I'll check when I get on a little later

Even though its true snipers are as useful as a rock but if we make shots not count in the red zone then what if one team gets pushed back to it? they will be trapped forever

Alright, thanks.

Also, I don't think these people saying Snipers suck know what they are really talking about. If You, Me, And Ruunt were to pull out Thale's, we'd make half the other team rage quit.

It's best to ignore the haters here on the forums. Especially the "vocal" haters.

The OMS maps are designed before the new EP. They have been set up smaller intentionally. Since it is ambush with a variation of having installations fall in at set times, we wanted it to be fast paced, with a bit of chaos and lots of action.

I thought I'd never see the day.

I finally have a real forum friend.

Also, were you the one sniping in those FW matches? Or was that Ruunt?

I honestly thought that was an alt of your Atiim, lol.

Well then carry on with your frontline infantry rant, I've heard all of them too.

*shrugs*

Have fun.

I knew I'd catch flack for pointing out the obvious and trying to taint the Sniper's Illusion of Grandeur, but back to the topic. Should they be allowed to snipe from behind the redline?

The real question is, should brainless AR users be allowed to pointlessly run in circles around an abandoned objective?
The ratio of AR users to snipers who do nothing in a battle is far higher. Meat shield dies 20 times... x3 meats = 60 of 100 clones down the drain.

In case you forget clones can loose the battle as well.
I'd rather have a useless sniper on a hill than a useless AR user careening us to clone defeat.

I was playing around tonight and noticed two things that sort of tie into one another.
Since CCP's new Executive Producer wanted to "turn up the action", I noticed something in Ambush OMS games and it ties to an earlier thought I had about redline sniping.

First things first: Redline Snipers.
You know when you play basketball, and if you shoot the ball and goes into the basket, but your foot stepped out of bounds, the shot doesn't count? Why would a sniper be allowed to sit out of bounds and still get rewarded with doing damage?

Now, I'm not venting about it. In fact, snipers are MEANINGLESS in this game. They don't contribute, even in Ambush game modes. Snipers can b*tch all they want about that, but face facts; snipers make no impact on games other than being nuisances. If I get killed by one, I really don't care, because its only one death and it won't happen again.

These maps are plenty big enough where the sniper can still have major distance without being out of bounds in the red zone.