Sitting there and averaging 1 kill per minute isn't really doing anything...

If one sniper can actually pin down the entire enemy team, EVERY single game they are in, or even half of them... then I'd say Sniping is dangerous. But quite frankly its just a method to raise KD.

[The day a sniper apparently shuts down the entire enemy team is the day I come on here and take it all back. They day i've died 100x by snipers is the day I take it all back... Let me know when you get a 3000WP while sniping too.

But everything a Sniper can do, everyone else can do it better, and then some.

blah, blah blah... nobody buys you fictionalization of recounts of what you wish would happen in games. Ever wonder why snipers make highlight reels instead of posting full games on YouTube for example? You say that you're squad clones other teams while sniping? Show me a game where a squad of 6 snipers got 25 kills each, or even a collective of 100...

Just because you had a decent game once, doesn't mean it happens the majority of the time (or 1.10th of the time).

So, tell me about a time where you WEREN'T playing starter fit noobs, or tell me about a time you were doing all this heroic stuff in P/C.... I'll wait for you right here.

My squad can Orbys fer days, dropping one on you is more of a troll than anything. You having a fly buzzing around your head, you swat it; kill it for being annoying. we know we didn't accomplish anything by dropping it on you, we just wanted to laugh. Because our team is actually doing work and getting Orbys, while you think you're being some make believe Black-Ops Navy Commando and not earning your team any WP or decent amount of kills.

A Swarm kills more than just HAVs Jr...

I know, but how many people will still bring out their vehicles when they start dropping like flies? If you say you can get more SP with you swarm launcher than the best sniper out there, I call bullshit. Because you won't find a match with that many vehicles and dropships about.

A Swarm kills more than just HAVs Jr...

And the Thale's guy, I squadded with him the rest of the day. He was no doubt a good player. But maybe if he was being more of a team player, he would have lent his WP to more orbitals? The thing was, he kept killing the same 4-5 guys in a row/ or hunt Logi Revivers.

You can get all the kills you want in DUST, but if they aren't key players, or kills that result in clone loss... they don't mean anything.

Its called letting the enemies hack the turrets and supply depots, and taking them out along with HAVs and LAVs...
If you're that ignorant about a swarm launcher than I'm assuming you're that narrow minded into thinking Snipers matter in this game...

Dude... don't give me the Sniper wishful thinking rant.. I've heard it 1000x... You wish you could single handedly defend an objective. You wish you could pop an enemy's head off just as he's about to kill your teammate, being a hero... you wish you could earn enough kills to balance out the bottom half of your team... you wish all of that BUT YOU CAN'T... I've never seen it, witnessed it, or even heard about...

A sniper gets about 1 key shot every game, if they are lucky, that's it. All you do is kill Scouts and Starter Fits, and coutnersnipe the other useless snipers on the other team.

DUST 514 Fact: The team with the most snipers, LOSES everytime.

I know more about swarm launchers than 90% of the people on this forum ever will; you gonna call me ignorant in the ways of swarm launchers?

And running around with a Wirykomi has granted me a total of around 1,500 WP on a good day.

And considering the fact that not every match has 3 tanks and 5 installations belonging to the enemy, I also call "bull$#!t"

58-0 thale sniping. If you call that useless then you probably suffer from Down syndrome. As for an average game I can easily break 40-0

I was playing around tonight and noticed two things that sort of tie into one another.
Since CCP's new Executive Producer wanted to "turn up the action", I noticed something in Ambush OMS games and it ties to an earlier thought I had about redline sniping.

First things first: Redline Snipers.
You know when you play basketball, and if you shoot the ball and goes into the basket, but your foot stepped out of bounds, the shot doesn't count? Why would a sniper be allowed to sit out of bounds and still get rewarded with doing damage?

Now, I'm not venting about it. In fact, snipers are MEANINGLESS in this game. They don't contribute, even in Ambush game modes. Snipers can b*tch all they want about that, but face facts; snipers make no impact on games other than being nuisances. If I get killed by one, I really don't care, because its only one death and it won't happen again.

These maps are plenty big enough where the sniper can still have major distance without being out of bounds in the red zone.

How this ties into tighter maps: Shrinking games?
In all the Ambush OMS games I played tonight, as I looked over the map before i spawned in I noticed how small the space was. We were playing OMS in standard Ambush spaces, and Turrets even dropped. I am wondering if this is one of CCPs attempts to turn up the action? Because all those Ambush games were over in 5 minutes, just like a standard Ambush game would be, because the time between kill waves is tighter because of the tighter maps.

If this is the case, then smaller maps will hurt snipers in this game and render them to Call of Duty type of playstyles because you can't get enough distance between you and the enemy. But at the same time, I had good Shotgun performances tonight because of the tighter maps. I suppose tighter OMS games wouldn't be a bad thing, as long as the large games stay in the rotation as well.

By average, you mean while running a full proto squad and picking on starter fit noobs right? GOOD JOB, MAN!
So, you're KDR must be 300-400 something?

I was playing around tonight and noticed two things that sort of tie into one another.
Since CCP's new Executive Producer wanted to "turn up the action", I noticed something in Ambush OMS games and it ties to an earlier thought I had about redline sniping.

First things first: Redline Snipers.
You know when you play basketball, and if you shoot the ball and goes into the basket, but your foot stepped out of bounds, the shot doesn't count? Why would a sniper be allowed to sit out of bounds and still get rewarded with doing damage?

Now, I'm not venting about it. In fact, snipers are MEANINGLESS in this game. They don't contribute, even in Ambush game modes. Snipers can b*tch all they want about that, but face facts; snipers make no impact on games other than being nuisances. If I get killed by one, I really don't care, because its only one death and it won't happen again.

These maps are plenty big enough where the sniper can still have major distance without being out of bounds in the red zone.

How this ties into tighter maps: Shrinking games?
In all the Ambush OMS games I played tonight, as I looked over the map before i spawned in I noticed how small the space was. We were playing OMS in standard Ambush spaces, and Turrets even dropped. I am wondering if this is one of CCPs attempts to turn up the action? Because all those Ambush games were over in 5 minutes, just like a standard Ambush game would be, because the time between kill waves is tighter because of the tighter maps.

If this is the case, then smaller maps will hurt snipers in this game and render them to Call of Duty type of playstyles because you can't get enough distance between you and the enemy. But at the same time, I had good Shotgun performances tonight because of the tighter maps. I suppose tighter OMS games wouldn't be a bad thing, as long as the large games stay in the rotation as well.

58-0 thale sniping. If you call that useless then you probably suffer from Down syndrome. As for an average game I can easily break 40-0

And there it is... the classic "if I ever see you in game..." comment.
I would say a million ISK to anyone who can kill me twice in once match with an SR, but I actually remembered it already happen once.
Some guy name docholiday1... I'll admit, after I died the second time, I took a 3 minute jog into the mountains just to put a SCR round into the back of his head. How dare he annoy me like that .

Snipers don't contribute anything to the game, that's a simple fact.

'Scuse me while I get my pencil.

8 GǪ 2 GǪ 1 GǪ 3

Ok, I'm good now.


Munch

If I had to change things, i'd pick a new name, because people remember that one to easily...

I was playing around tonight and noticed two things that sort of tie into one another.
Since CCP's new Executive Producer wanted to "turn up the action", I noticed something in Ambush OMS games and it ties to an earlier thought I had about redline sniping.

First things first: Redline Snipers.
You know when you play basketball, and if you shoot the ball and goes into the basket, but your foot stepped out of bounds, the shot doesn't count? Why would a sniper be allowed to sit out of bounds and still get rewarded with doing damage?

Now, I'm not venting about it. In fact, snipers are MEANINGLESS in this game. They don't contribute, even in Ambush game modes. Snipers can b*tch all they want about that, but face facts; snipers make no impact on games other than being nuisances. If I get killed by one, I really don't care, because its only one death and it won't happen again.

These maps are plenty big enough where the sniper can still have major distance without being out of bounds in the red zone.

How this ties into tighter maps: Shrinking games?
In all the Ambush OMS games I played tonight, as I looked over the map before i spawned in I noticed how small the space was. We were playing OMS in standard Ambush spaces, and Turrets even dropped. I am wondering if this is one of CCPs attempts to turn up the action? Because all those Ambush games were over in 5 minutes, just like a standard Ambush game would be, because the time between kill waves is tighter because of the tighter maps.

If this is the case, then smaller maps will hurt snipers in this game and render them to Call of Duty type of playstyles because you can't get enough distance between you and the enemy. But at the same time, I had good Shotgun performances tonight because of the tighter maps. I suppose tighter OMS games wouldn't be a bad thing, as long as the large games stay in the rotation as well.

Of course... Does the Tooth Fairy still ay you visits? What did you ask Santa for Christmas this year? Because you are delusional and stretching out the 1% of good snipers plays to cover up for their ineffectiveness.

If you want to pretend and fool yourself into thinking Snipers are anything meaningful in the matches of DUST 514 games, I can't stop you...

If you'll allow me, you can invite me to your channel, and I can join in on a couple games and watch heroism you speak of...

"Don't worry guys, I got the guy hacking A... There I shot him... pay no mind that it was a guy in a Scout Suit... I saved the entire match for us... wait... 5 people are now hacking A... hurry up ground guys, do something, because... oh never mind, they got A"

By average, you mean while running a full proto squad and picking on starter fit noobs right? GOOD JOB, MAN!
So, you're KDR must be 300-400 something?

I beg to differ... Snipers are not meaningless in this game

When I snipe, my team notices my impact.

Due to my Thale, we have one of our objectives permanently safe, that tower-camping swarmer/forger terrorizing our derpships/infantry is dead, and enemy AV infantry get shot to pieces allowing my team's HAV to run rampant in half of the map.


Sounds like you just hate crappy snipers... But bad snipers are no different then the useless AR nutters who die 17 times score 150 warpoints.