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steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers EoN. 1737	Posted - 2013.11.06 14:14:00 - [1] - Quote LETS GET TTK BACK TO NORMALL So newbs have a chance. so heavys can own face So scouts can stab them in back So assults can chance them down So logistics can pick up the assult as he got blasted by a tank running after a tank. Lets bring this back because as of 1.6 this will no longer happen it will just be med suits with AR spraying madly killing 4 people by chance "my faith is my shield, the empress's light my guide and my fury my sword" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Ulme Mees Eesti Leegion 45	Posted - 2013.11.06 16:56:00 - [2] - Quote +1 Now 99% kills come from AR.... Fear is a disease!
Cosgar ParagonX 7391	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:00:00 - [3] - Quote /signed I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Knight Soiaire R 0 N 1 N 3073	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:02:00 - [4] - Quote Signed. Anyone notice the increase in the Heavy + AR combo? Its obvious TTK needs tweaking, whats the point of speed tanking? Raffle draw will be in 2-3 days Save General John Ripper! Catz Addict
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1878	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:02:00 - [5] - Quote Signed.
g forc3 Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 3	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:03:00 - [6] - Quote Signed My ATL approves.
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 404	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:07:00 - [7] - Quote Roll back the 10% damage buff of a couple patches ago and lets see how she plays. In other words, signed.
Meeko Fent Expert Intervention Caldari State 1409	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:10:00 - [8] - Quote So... Fix MMing Tight HMG reticle and increase range Buff scouts, someway, somehow Leave assaults alone Reduce the Logi health to a reasonable amount so they are used for logi'ing insead of being mega assaults. Give Tanks the capabilities to kill the assault so the logi can pick him up. And fixed. Meeko's Novelty Shop Opening Soon! We (will)sell all the novelty items you desire! Really! King of Uncertainty.
Meeko Fent Expert Intervention Caldari State 1409	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:12:00 - [9] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: Roll back the 10% damage buff of a couple patches ago and lets see how she plays. In other words, signed. Exactly my thoughts, along with a slight heavy buff and fixing of whatever apparently is wrong with scouts. Meeko's Novelty Shop Opening Soon! We (will)sell all the novelty items you desire! Really! King of Uncertainty.
Himiko Kuronaga The Generals EoN. 2179	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:18:00 - [10] - Quote I seem to remember saying back in Lances thread that buffing the heavy suit and ignoring the HMG problem would simply result in it becoming a popular suit for rifles. Oh look, I was right.

Mirataf WARRIORS 1NC 116	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:19:00 - [11] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: So... Fix MMing Tight HMG reticle and increase range Buff scouts, someway, somehow Leave assaults alone Reduce the Logi health to a reasonable amount so they are used for logi'ing insead of being mega assaults. Give Tanks the capabilities to kill the assault so the logi can pick him up. And fixed. Not bad, although I would suggest nerfing logi health isn't right. They should be penalised for damage output When we got the 10% blanket increase to all weapons back in the day, perhaps we should now reduce it by 20% then add 2% per level for all suits including basic but not on the logi
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 99	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:21:00 - [12] - Quote +1 TTK needs some increase, which can be accomplished a number of ways, but removing the 10% buff seems to be to be a good place to start.
Knight Soiaire R 0 N 1 N 3074	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:24:00 - [13] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: Roll back the 10% damage buff of a couple patches ago and lets see how she plays. In other words, signed. Not on all weapons though. As in weapons that have been balanced since then (TAC), and weapons that will be balanced (Swarm Launcher) Or weapons that are already in a good place, Shotguns, LRs, Nova Knives, Sniper Rifles .etc Raffle draw will be in 2-3 days Save General John Ripper! Catz Addict
Cosgar ParagonX 7392	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:27:00 - [14] - Quote Mirataf wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: So... Fix MMing Tight HMG reticle and increase range Buff scouts, someway, somehow Leave assaults alone Reduce the Logi health to a reasonable amount so they are used for logi'ing insead of being mega assaults. Give Tanks the capabilities to kill the assault so the logi can pick him up. And fixed. Not bad, although I would suggest nerfing logi health isn't right. They should be penalised for damage output When we got the 10% blanket increase to all weapons back in the day, perhaps we should now reduce it by 20% then add 2% per level for all suits including basic but not on the logi I could live with that, but remove the proficiency skill. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles 2597	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:28:00 - [15] - Quote Yeah! I want my strafing shooter back ! ** this cod 5 shot BS GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 2**
Meeko Fent Expert Intervention Caldari State 1410	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:30:00 - [16] - Quote Mirataf wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: So... Fix MMing Tight HMG reticle and increase range Buff scouts, someway, somehow Leave assaults alone Reduce the Logi health to a reasonable amount so they are used for logi'ing insead of being mega assaults. Give Tanks the capabilities to kill the assault so the logi can pick him up. And fixed. Not bad, although I would suggest nerfing logi health isn't right. They should be penalised for damage output When we got the 10% blanket increase to all weapons back in the day, perhaps we should now reduce it by 20% then add 2% per level for all suits including basic but not on the logi I am suggesting Logi's Health being brought down to assault heath. Those sum bitches can get 1200 HP. Assaults get 900. Why do they need so much more? Just equalize everything about the two besides the sidearm and equipment slots. Only weirdo is the Amarr Logi, which just needs to have a moderate loss in either speed or health to balance it out. Meeko's Novelty Shop Opening Soon! We (will)sell all the novelty items you desire! Really! King of Uncertainty.
Pje251296 KILL ORDERS 152	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:31:00 - [17] - Quote Signed.
Rei Shepard Spectre II 823	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:32:00 - [18] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: LETS GET TTK BACK TO NORMALL So newbs have a chance. so heavys can own face So scouts can stab them in back So assults can chance them down So logistics can pick up the assult as he got blasted by a tank running after a tank. Lets bring this back because as of 1.6 this will no longer happen it will just be med suits with AR spraying madly killing 4 people by chance Signed Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!"
HowDidThatTaste Ancient Exiles 3911	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:33:00 - [19] - Quote Signed Cause the heavy hMG combo is worthless against my AR
Gorra Snell The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 209	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:37:00 - [20] - Quote Not sure what "normal" TTK should be, per the OP, but +1 to making it longer than it is now.

Aqua-Regia 528	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:37:00 - [21] - Quote What is a true Dust player? GòöGòºGòºGòºGòºGòºGòºGòùGöÉGòôBPO / BPC Collector Gòû Gòó *SoonGäó* GòáGò¬Gò¬GòºGòñGòñGò¬GòñGòºGòºGòñGòªGò¬GòñGò¬GòªGòºGò¼GòínoneGòPGûá GòÜGòñGòñGòñGòñGòñGòñGò¥Dust 514 GòPGò¢§GòÆGòú00GòáGòòGòÜGòí00GòPGò¢
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 1647	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:39:00 - [22] - Quote Aqua-Regia wrote: What is a true Dust player? Someone with a notable case of masochism. Check out & sub my youtube. Yay!
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1260	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:39:00 - [23] - Quote Have lube, ready to 'rally' behind you lol. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1260	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:40:00 - [24] - Quote Aqua-Regia wrote: What is a true Dust player? A dead skin cell pimp. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
One Eyed King Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 9	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:42:00 - [25] - Quote Signed.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 4656	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:42:00 - [26] - Quote Signed. Much of the game has been balanced around poor hit detection. The hit detection is better now and aiming is okay, and that's great to see - but automatic weapons dominate as a result of this. Level 4 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Yelhsa Jin-Mao GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 71	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:46:00 - [27] - Quote Nope, I'm enjoying killing Protons with my Toxin. NOT SIGNED I can has ISK
Jacques Cayton II Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 72	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:47:00 - [28] - Quote I agree +1
Awry Barux Shining Flame Amarr Empire 266	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:47:00 - [29] - Quote Signed, I've articulated why I support this in other threads.
General John Ripper Rippers Taco Shack 39693	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:47:00 - [30] - Quote +1 Dust 514's #17 Forum Warrior Founder of the Forum Warrior Club King of Tacos

Aqua-Regia 528	Posted - 2013.11.06 17:54:00 - [31] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Aqua-Regia wrote: What is a true Dust player? A dead skin cell pimp. Okay im not a Dust player. GòöGòºGòºGòºGòºGòºGòºGòùGöÉGòôBPO / BPC Collector Gòû Gòó *SoonGäó* GòáGò¬Gò¬GòºGòñGòñGò¬GòñGòºGòºGòñGòªGò¬GòñGò¬GòªGòºGò¼GòínoneGòPGûá GòÜGòñGòñGòñGòñGòñGòñGò¥Dust 514 GòPGò¢§GòÆGòú00GòáGòòGòÜGòí00GòPGò¢
Iskandar Zul Karnain Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 2245	Posted - 2013.11.06 18:05:00 - [32] - Quote Signed. I could go for a 10% damage nerf save a few weapons here and there. That said, increasing ttk will only make it harder for newbros to get into dust. I would change the OP as anyone who thinks about it for more than a second will realize this benefits players with lots of SP and pro gear the most. -ê HellsGÇáorm Director -ê `Gû¦Amarr VictorGû¦`
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers EoN. 1758	Posted - 2013.11.06 18:08:00 - [33] - Quote Wow this really took off while I was heading home :-D keep the message load a proud :-) "my faith is my shield, the empress's light my guide and my fury my sword" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Johnny Guilt Algintal Core Gallente Federation 318	Posted - 2013.11.06 18:08:00 - [34] - Quote How about no,adapt or die remember?
commando biffle Shadow Company HQ 10	Posted - 2013.11.06 18:14:00 - [35] - Quote +1
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK 260	Posted - 2013.11.06 18:20:00 - [36] - Quote Signed. I got blapped in my brick tanked support cal logi by an exile. Seriously thought I got shot gunned Something witty here. How about? #DELAY 514 ... been waiting for a rail rifle longer than SoTa's been trolling.
Foley Jones Cassardis 249	Posted - 2013.11.06 18:23:00 - [37] - Quote Even though I love th e AR to death and its OP but.... Signed Got dat Murderboner raging on
Aria Gomes DUST CORE Zero-Day 107	Posted - 2013.11.06 18:27:00 - [38] - Quote You got my hell yes vote already Steady. Haha TTK is ridiculous now.
Kahn Zo Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 56	Posted - 2013.11.06 18:28:00 - [39] - Quote For the scouts. signed. Pure Gallente
Paran Tadec Ancient Exiles 1598	Posted - 2013.11.06 18:28:00 - [40] - Quote Roll back 10% dmg on ars smgs and other weapons that function similarly. Limit suits to one dmg mod. Bittervet Proficiency V thanks logibro!

Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1046	Posted - 2013.11.06 18:33:00 - [41] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: So... Fix MMing Tight HMG reticle and increase range Buff scouts, someway, somehow Leave assaults alone Reduce the Logi health to a reasonable amount so they are used for logi'ing insead of being mega assaults. Give Tanks the capabilities to kill the assault so the logi can pick him up. And fixed. Rather than reducing logi health, why not bring the CPU/PG more in line with Assault CPU/PG and then give them all a blanket reduction in CPU/PG cost for equipment. Allow us to do our jobs while limiting the ability to run an Assault setup on a Logi suit. @OP /signed Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives.... Martyr for the Republic Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Scheherazade VII 80	Posted - 2013.11.06 18:38:00 - [42] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: LETS GET TTK BACK TO NORMALL So newbs have a chance. so heavys can own face So scouts can stab them in back So assults can chance them down So logistics can pick up the assult as he got blasted by a tank running after a tank. Lets bring this back because as of 1.6 this will no longer happen it will just be med suits with AR spraying madly killing 4 people by chance I like the fact I can now kill stacked proto nubs. saw one very scared logi with 799 armour yesterday. now newbs DO have a chance, a chance to actually take down the protobears rather than be annihilated. If protobears run around and QQ they got taken out by a MLT guy then what? they expect to not die? for somebody to win somebody has to lose. That new player is what will keep the game alive. Due to their selfishness, if the new player ISN'T managing to kill them (as was the case in previous builds) they're not going to like the game! DUST just got harder, but it got fairer. deal with it GêÜGëêDUST VIDEOSGëêGêÜ
Unit-775 Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 48	Posted - 2013.11.06 18:38:00 - [43] - Quote signed
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 407	Posted - 2013.11.06 22:01:00 - [44] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Mirataf wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: So... Fix MMing Tight HMG reticle and increase range Buff scouts, someway, somehow Leave assaults alone Reduce the Logi health to a reasonable amount so they are used for logi'ing insead of being mega assaults. Give Tanks the capabilities to kill the assault so the logi can pick him up. And fixed. Not bad, although I would suggest nerfing logi health isn't right. They should be penalised for damage output When we got the 10% blanket increase to all weapons back in the day, perhaps we should now reduce it by 20% then add 2% per level for all suits including basic but not on the logi I am suggesting Logi's Health being brought down to assault heath. Those sum bitches can get 1200 HP. Assaults get 900. Why do they need so much more? Just equalize everything about the two besides the sidearm and equipment slots. Only weirdo is the Amarr Logi, which just needs to have a moderate loss in either speed or health to balance it out. Can we please not bring the endless logi debate to this thread when there are tons of threads about this already? This thread is simply for stating whether you want TTK upped and suggestions on how to do that.
Ansiiis The Trustworthy We Pay The Iron Price 379	Posted - 2013.11.06 22:07:00 - [45] - Quote Signed
iceyburnz Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 1189	Posted - 2013.11.06 22:09:00 - [46] - Quote We should ease it in for size. 5% ROF reduction on all AR.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 678	Posted - 2013.11.06 22:10:00 - [47] - Quote Agreed There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy, don't cry You'll still be useful in my eyes
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 407	Posted - 2013.11.06 22:10:00 - [48] - Quote On the subject of newberries, increasing TTK or leaving it the same is essentially a wash when it comes to proto vs. standard or in fact increased TTK may actually help a newer player a very little. Sure a new guy with a standard AR can more likely take down a proto suit using a duvolle now, but how much quicker can that proto AR take down that poor bastard in a standard suit? If the game comes down to who spots who first, who has the best angle for getting shots off then there is a distinct advantage in kn owing the terrain and layout of the battlefield. Who knows these maps the best a new guy or fools like me who've been playing since closed beta? Honestly, I've been doing fine if not improving my KDR on my assault alt. since yesterday, but I do think the game was better when it took a little longer to bring the enemy down.
VAHZZ The dyst0pian Corporation 35	Posted - 2013.11.06 22:14:00 - [49] - Quote buff the scouts oh dear lord buff the scouts! /signed > Master of the Sniper "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results."
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4088	Posted - 2013.11.06 22:15:00 - [50] - Quote I approve of this product and/or service *Oculus Felis Semper Vigilant* *Beta Vet* *Level 4 Forum Warrior*

Cosgar ParagonX 7413	Posted - 2013.11.06 22:15:00 - [51] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: On the subject of newberries, increasing TTK or leaving it the same is essentially a wash when it comes to proto vs. standard or in fact increased TTK may actually help a newer player a very little. Sure a new guy with a standard AR can more likely take down a proto suit using a duvolle now, but how much quicker can that proto AR take down that poor bastard in a standard suit? If the game comes down to who spots who first, who has the best angle for getting shots off then there is a distinct advantage in kn owing the terrain and layout of the battlefield. Who knows these maps the best a new guy or fools like me who've been playing since closed beta? Honestly, I've been doing fine if not improving my KDR on my assault alt. since yesterday, but I do think the game was better when it took a little longer to bring the enemy down. Longer TTK puts less emphasis on bigger tank + DPS = win and makes core FPS essentials lie strafing and aiming more important. Not everyone is a twitch FPS player and not everyone understands the concept of strafing and tracking, but the least this game could do is meet half way so both sides are equally disappointed. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 407	Posted - 2013.11.06 22:44:00 - [52] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Zahle Undt wrote: On the subject of newberries, increasing TTK or leaving it the same is essentially a wash when it comes to proto vs. standard or in fact increased TTK may actually help a newer player a very little. Sure a new guy with a standard AR can more likely take down a proto suit using a duvolle now, but how much quicker can that proto AR take down that poor bastard in a standard suit? If the game comes down to who spots who first, who has the best angle for getting shots off then there is a distinct advantage in kn owing the terrain and layout of the battlefield. Who knows these maps the best a new guy or fools like me who've been playing since closed beta? Honestly, I've been doing fine if not improving my KDR on my assault alt. since yesterday, but I do think the game was better when it took a little longer to bring the enemy down. Longer TTK puts less emphasis on bigger tank + DPS = win and makes core FPS essentials lie strafing and aiming more important. Not everyone is a twitch FPS player and not everyone understands the concept of strafing and tracking, but the least this game could do is meet half way so both sides are equally disappointed. A great compromise is when everyone is equally unhappy eh? LOL Anyway I came into Dust having never played multiplayer FPS only campaigns against AI where cover, uncover, fire at the AI is all you need to do. I can testify to the fact that those core FPS essentials you speak of get picked up rather quickly...now even in a game's campaign mode I always want to jump to the side while reloading for some damn reason!
Musta Tornius Algintal Core Gallente Federation 645	Posted - 2013.11.06 22:48:00 - [53] - Quote /signed ///////////////////////slashies Dust514 Weapon Range & Information
Cass Caul 244	Posted - 2013.11.06 23:09:00 - [54] - Quote I'm loving this Heavy HP buff. Now with my Templar Sentinel A-1 I have 1150 HP before I put any modules on it. . . It hasn't made them virtually untouchable when someone with a Dren or Templar suit takes a charged or thale's sniper rifle in the red-line with more rampant head-glitching than before +Éß¦ëddGêÇ -çou -Äll+É-çoGö¦
Ranger SnakeBlood OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 219	Posted - 2013.11.06 23:27:00 - [55] - Quote +1 Take the old 10% buff back on weapons actually take it off of the better weapons of the game Classic AR(Auto), Srambler semi, Scrambler auto, SMG?(Debatable), Massdriver?(debatable again), laser(debatable possibly no reduction) Charge and thales snipers(probably biased but i think these should qualify) Leave HMG as it is now so it gets a bit of a buff it kinda needs it, Breach and Tac AR should be left alone so they get a passive buff the burst is debatable Shotguns i have no idea alpha weapons are hard to judge
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1645	Posted - 2013.11.06 23:36:00 - [56] - Quote Signed CEO of The Corporate Raiders, We're still recruiting... Level 1 Forum Warrior
Alldin Kan Imperfects Negative-Feedback 767	Posted - 2013.11.06 23:37:00 - [57] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: LETS GET TTK BACK TO NORMALL So newbs have a chance. so heavys can own face So scouts can stab them in back So assults can chance them down So logistics can pick up the assult as he got blasted by a tank running after a tank. Lets bring this back because as of 1.6 this will no longer happen it will just be med suits with AR spraying madly killing 4 people by chance 1. Battle Academy is still **** 2. Amarr heavy is slow, Type-II was great back on chromosone 3. Scouts simply need to get cloaking 4. Logis already have too much HP Dawww, all they want is cookies. LOL Commando LOL Plasma Cannon
Fist Groinpunch Goonfeet Top Men. 132	Posted - 2013.11.06 23:41:00 - [58] - Quote AR's were the best weapon even back in chromosome thanks to their versatility, but now they are so much better than anything else out there it's not even funny. Please tone down the hitscan weapons, AR especially.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 1224	Posted - 2013.11.06 23:42:00 - [59] - Quote Yup. +1 /signed, Official. Cheeseburgers.
Mortedeamor WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL The Ascendancy 656	Posted - 2013.11.06 23:42:00 - [60] - Quote signed

Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1465	Posted - 2013.11.06 23:42:00 - [61] - Quote I concur. "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle
Alldin Kan Imperfects Negative-Feedback 767	Posted - 2013.11.06 23:43:00 - [62] - Quote Fist Groinpunch wrote: AR's were the best weapon even back in chromosome thanks to their versatility, but now they are so much better than anything else out there it's not even funny. Please tone down the hitscan weapons, AR especially. The removal of sharpshooter on the AR and SMG should be enough. Dawww, all they want is cookies. LOL Commando LOL Plasma Cannon
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1052	Posted - 2013.11.06 23:48:00 - [63] - Quote Ranger SnakeBlood wrote: +1 Take the old 10% buff back on weapons actually take it off of the better weapons of the game Classic AR(Auto), Srambler semi, Scrambler auto, SMG?(Debatable), Massdriver?(debatable again), laser(debatable possibly no reduction) Charge and thales snipers(probably biased but i think these should qualify) Leave HMG as it is now so it gets a bit of a buff it kinda needs it, Breach and Tac AR should be left alone so they get a passive buff the burst is debatable Shotguns i have no idea alpha weapons are hard to judge Much as I hate to say it, if we're going to roll back the 10% damage buff, it should only be rolled back on the pre-uprising weapons. I can agree on it staying in place for the HMG though. Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives.... Martyr for the Republic Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
bolsh lee Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 639	Posted - 2013.11.06 23:48:00 - [64] - Quote Signed **** is pretty ridiculous...
Khal V'Rani 358	Posted - 2013.11.07 00:00:00 - [65] - Quote Signed. +1 at Cosgar for dissapointing everyone equally. I'm a scrub.
Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic Top Men. 238	Posted - 2013.11.07 00:01:00 - [66] - Quote I think CCP needs to reevaluate what they want the AR (whole class in general) to be. I doubt they wanted AR to be the ultimate killing machine, beating niche weapons in their niche environments. Whether this was caused by hit detection, AA, dispersion skill or whatever the gun has gone a little overboard.
jin foxdale Jedi Slime. 84	Posted - 2013.11.07 00:08:00 - [67] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Aqua-Regia wrote: What is a true Dust player? A dead skin cell pimp. BOOYAH! Now that's a pun and a half. +1 ad infinitem
Leviticus Decoy Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 15	Posted - 2013.11.07 00:36:00 - [68] - Quote Signed. What is the point of all these shields and armor if only to survive .6 seconds longer. FAIL. This game should promote wearing different Sh*t for different scenarios. Why wear proto? Two complex damage, an exile AR in covenant blueprint suit is all I use now. Most are dead before I friggin blink. If I die, who cares, costs me only 11K ISK. I remember in close beta when Fatties were feared and took a team to take out. I remember when wearing proto meant you had a significant advantage over the regular merc cause you spent time into skilling into it.
CHIPMINT BUTTERCUP 138	Posted - 2013.11.07 00:36:00 - [69] - Quote jin foxdale wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Aqua-Regia wrote: What is a true Dust player? A dead skin cell pimp. BOOYAH! Now that's a pun and a half. +1 ad infinitem I forgot to say I'm not signing. The first words I heard when stepping off the bus into New Eden were "Adapt or Die", so that's what I'm gonna do, until the rug gets pulled out from under me. Again. Repeat cycle forever. First word I heard was Soon Gäó DUST514 Love The Dream Hate The Product Dusters - WhenGäó CCP - SoonGäó
Powerh8er Norwegian Dust514 Corporation Top Men. 279	Posted - 2013.11.07 00:47:00 - [70] - Quote x

IceStormers Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 61	Posted - 2013.11.07 01:01:00 - [71] - Quote Signed TTK needs to increase greatly for some weapons not a blanket hit
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 684	Posted - 2013.11.07 01:03:00 - [72] - Quote Mirataf wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: So... Fix MMing Tight HMG reticle and increase range Buff scouts, someway, somehow Leave assaults alone Reduce the Logi health to a reasonable amount so they are used for logi'ing insead of being mega assaults. Give Tanks the capabilities to kill the assault so the logi can pick him up. And fixed. Not bad, although I would suggest nerfing logi health isn't right. They should be penalised for damage output When we got the 10% blanket increase to all weapons back in the day, perhaps we should now reduce it by 20% then add 2% per level for all suits including basic but not on the logi No. There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy, don't cry You'll still be useful in my eyes
Zero Harpuia Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 1121	Posted - 2013.11.07 06:25:00 - [73] - Quote I'm currently doing some math to elaborate the argument for longer TTK, would you mind linking it here once I finish? I'd love to see the TTK back to true StrafeShooter levels. ECM Equipment
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 316	Posted - 2013.11.07 06:30:00 - [74] - Quote Been saying the Time To Kill has been becoming too low since the new accuracy was implemented several months ago.... Basically, the damage per bullet is too high with the new accuracy we have, hence the old damage was based around bullets Missing, and that was a good mix then. Now that we have bullets hitting, we need to reduce the damage in order to make modules and suits worthwhile. If you can read this, it means you are reading.
noobsniper the 2nd The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 68	Posted - 2013.11.07 06:36:00 - [75] - Quote /signed but until it rlly happens ill be playin bf4 just call me scumbag noob
Repe Susi Rautaleijona Top Men. 754	Posted - 2013.11.07 06:52:00 - [76] - Quote /signed. It's ridiculous how fast people are dropping. But as somebody said somewhere, maybe it's CCP's intention to keep this for awhile to make people lose ISK. Whatever. Remember, remember, the 30th of november
HYENAKILLER X TEAM SHINOBI 325	Posted - 2013.11.07 07:03:00 - [77] - Quote Nope You are welcome for my leadership
Mirataf WARRIORS 1NC 120	Posted - 2013.11.07 09:13:00 - [78] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: Roll back 10% dmg on ars smgs and other weapons that function similarly. Limit suits to one dmg mod. No, don't limit possibilities. However I would agree that stacking HP mods with current ttk is a poor choice over damage mods. You should be able to' feel' a difference with module stacking whereas ATM you don't get a chance to feel any difference in the suit experience which is wrong
Nguruthos IX PEN 15 CLUB 2111	Posted - 2013.11.07 09:27:00 - [79] - Quote also up TTK on vehicles so some derpy forge gun doesn't blast it down in 2 seconds flat
Dachande Anasazi K-A-O-S theory 86	Posted - 2013.11.07 09:34:00 - [80] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: LETS GET TTK BACK TO NORMALL So newbs have a chance. so heavys can own face So scouts can stab them in back So assults can chance them down So logistics can pick up the assult as he got blasted by a tank running after a tank. Lets bring this back because as of 1.6 this will no longer happen it will just be med suits with AR spraying madly killing 4 people by chance Ummm even back in the day when there were only minmitar logi suits they could put 4 complex dmg mods with shield regulators and an MD...

Dachande Anasazi K-A-O-S theory 86	Posted - 2013.11.07 09:35:00 - [81] - Quote Nguruthos IX wrote: also up TTK on vehicles so some derpy forge gun doesn't blast it down in 2 seconds flat forge guns could always destroy vehicles easily...
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers EoN. 1795	Posted - 2013.11.07 09:44:00 - [82] - Quote Good discussions around this :-). Logic bro repair tools ate current fine though love seeing the heavy logi combo at the moment "my faith is my shield, the empress's light my guide and my fury my sword" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 333	Posted - 2013.11.07 09:52:00 - [83] - Quote I thought that CCP might have an agenda behind this. Since they are not commenting in any threads about TTK. Maybe this is their way of balancing standard vs proto gear? Maybe they want to increase the risk vs reward of running proto? Or maybe they just want to **** people off and steal our ISK? +¦-damage specialist since Sep ´13. CCP please make our decisions matter. "AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514."
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers EoN. 1796	Posted - 2013.11.07 10:05:00 - [84] - Quote I am worried because when somthing like this happens they have normally said somthing by now. My fear is they always wanted dust.This way and this is why they are not saying anything :-( "my faith is my shield, the empress's light my guide and my fury my sword" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 334	Posted - 2013.11.07 10:10:00 - [85] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: I am worried because when somthing like this happens they have normally said somthing by now. My fear is they always wanted dust.This way and this is why they are not saying anything :-( Could also be that they are ignoring the forums until they have fixed the problem, I just hope they will present a plan for a solution (or that they have a patch ready) at the same time as they officially announce this is a problem. +¦-damage specialist since Sep ´13. CCP please make our decisions matter. "AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514."
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 657	Posted - 2013.11.07 10:27:00 - [86] - Quote I'm in - I liked Dust when it required more skill to aim and strafe, when it required more strategy in terms of how to kill your opponent and stay alive in a sustained fight; that all came with higher time to kill. Don't get me wrong, the current form requires strategy in terms of positioning, staying unseen etc.... you can't hide behind lots of tank, but proto gear is earned to be FEARED, not earned to be laughed at. Dust, and New Eden is a harsh place, and they've changed the version of harsh that it has become.... I'm not interested in adapting to this new kind of New Eden - it's too much like the other games. Something else needs to be done about the newbro experience; the stomping needs to be addressed but not this way - not by making the SP invested by higher level players useless, not by making PROTO suits a joke.
Death Dealer86 Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 73	Posted - 2013.11.07 10:32:00 - [87] - Quote I'm a dumb heavy that don't know how to sign thanks to taking all of those AR rounds to the head. Where do I make my mark?
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 337	Posted - 2013.11.07 10:34:00 - [88] - Quote Matticus Monk wrote: Something else needs to be done about the newbro experience; the stomping needs to be addressed but not this way - not by making the SP invested by higher level players useless, not by making PROTO suits a joke. +1 This was what I am protesting against by only using BPOs. +¦-damage specialist since Sep ´13. CCP please make our decisions matter. "AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514."
8213 Grade No.2 554	Posted - 2013.11.07 10:43:00 - [89] - Quote But the new Exec. Prod. said he wanted to turn up the action... or was it make more money at the f2p system and remove BPOs and also shorten TTK, because more crossover players will come... Shield/Armor tanking is pointless in this game now. 140 armor goes just as fast as 500 armor...
Booker DaFooker Ancient Exiles 162	Posted - 2013.11.07 10:45:00 - [90] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Mirataf wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: So... Fix MMing Tight HMG reticle and increase range Buff scouts, someway, somehow Leave assaults alone Reduce the Logi health to a reasonable amount so they are used for logi'ing insead of being mega assaults. Give Tanks the capabilities to kill the assault so the logi can pick him up. And fixed. Not bad, although I would suggest nerfing logi health isn't right. They should be penalised for damage output When we got the 10% blanket increase to all weapons back in the day, perhaps we should now reduce it by 20% then add 2% per level for all suits including basic but not on the logi I am suggesting Logi's Health being brought down to assault heath. Those sum bitches can get 1200 HP. Assaults get 900. Why do they need so much more? Just equalize everything about the two besides the sidearm and equipment slots. Only weirdo is the Amarr Logi, which just needs to have a moderate loss in either speed or health to balance it out. Because we spend half our time without an offensive weapon in our hands keeping everyone alive/supplied/informed and without that protection we can't even take the slightest risk to help others out. It is pretty much like that now as even a 1000 hp Barely gives you a second of survival time, ridiculous! Bullshit Baffles Brains

Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 658	Posted - 2013.11.07 10:48:00 - [91] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Matticus Monk wrote: Something else needs to be done about the newbro experience; the stomping needs to be addressed but not this way - not by making the SP invested by higher level players useless, not by making PROTO suits a joke. +1 This was what I am protesting against by only using BPOs. +1 as well. I have been using only militia and standard gear since I started 9 months ago. it's only fair and I can wreck newbs enough with that stuff. We need to self-regulate here until we have high/low/null sec areas. I will make an exception for the rewards week where they are giving quafe suits for every 10 kills with a proto weapon, though. Sorry newbros!
Himiko Kuronaga The Generals EoN. 2201	Posted - 2013.11.07 11:01:00 - [92] - Quote Booker DaFooker wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Mirataf wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: So... Fix MMing Tight HMG reticle and increase range Buff scouts, someway, somehow Leave assaults alone Reduce the Logi health to a reasonable amount so they are used for logi'ing insead of being mega assaults. Give Tanks the capabilities to kill the assault so the logi can pick him up. And fixed. Not bad, although I would suggest nerfing logi health isn't right. They should be penalised for damage output When we got the 10% blanket increase to all weapons back in the day, perhaps we should now reduce it by 20% then add 2% per level for all suits including basic but not on the logi I am suggesting Logi's Health being brought down to assault heath. Those sum bitches can get 1200 HP. Assaults get 900. Why do they need so much more? Just equalize everything about the two besides the sidearm and equipment slots. Only weirdo is the Amarr Logi, which just needs to have a moderate loss in either speed or health to balance it out. Because we spend half our time without an offensive weapon in our hands keeping everyone alive/supplied/informed and without that protection we can't even take the slightest risk to help others out. It is pretty much like that now as even a 1000 hp Barely gives you a second of survival time, ridiculous! A logi only puts down his weapon by choice. They are more capable of fighting than most assault suits are. Frankly it would make more sense to have an entire team running logi instead of assault. The only exception to this rule I see are amarr assaults due to their unique way of using laser weaponry. Of course, both suits die instantly with the new hit detection, so its kind of a moot point.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 339	Posted - 2013.11.07 11:08:00 - [93] - Quote Matticus Monk wrote: Spectral Clone wrote: Matticus Monk wrote: Something else needs to be done about the newbro experience; the stomping needs to be addressed but not this way - not by making the SP invested by higher level players useless, not by making PROTO suits a joke. +1 This was what I am protesting against by only using BPOs. +1 as well. I have been using only militia and standard gear since I started 9 months ago. it's only fair and I can wreck newbs enough with that stuff. We need to self-regulate here until we have high/low/null sec areas. I will make an exception for the rewards week where they are giving quafe suits for every 10 kills with a proto weapon, though. Sorry newbros! Will run imperial on a militia heavy frame for that event xD +¦-damage specialist since Sep ´13. CCP please make our decisions matter. "AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514."
Syeven Reed RETR0 PR0 GAMERS 151	Posted - 2013.11.07 11:14:00 - [94] - Quote Ulme Mees wrote: +1 Now 99% kills come from AR.... Because 99% of people use them lol xD Gÿé
Lucifalic The Generals EoN. 155	Posted - 2013.11.07 11:20:00 - [95] - Quote How about some actual dispursion on automatic weapons other then the hmg. I u take a full auto assault rifle and empty the magazine at a target in one go you will have hit it a few times with the initial burst, it climbs up and then u fight the thing the rest of the time missing with a lot of bullets. It's just fact. Doesn't matter how experienced you are , ie heavy sp investment, you cannot fire non stop and smoke a target with 99% of your bullets. Increase the dispursion the longer you hold fire for ar's and the likes. Sp investment will allow a slightly longer spray accuracy before looking like an hmg. Force people to burst fire for accurate results. Take away aim assist. Signed
Mad Syringe Black Phoenix Mercenaries 37	Posted - 2013.11.07 11:27:00 - [96] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: LETS GET TTK BACK TO NORMALL So newbs have a chance. so heavys can own face So scouts can stab them in back So assults can chance them down So logistics can pick up the assult as he got blasted by a tank running after a tank. Lets bring this back because as of 1.6 this will no longer happen it will just be med suits with AR spraying madly killing 4 people by chance +1 ! On the logi issue, I do not think a nerf is necessary, but to give assaults a slight advantage, just increase the stacking penalty for damage mods on logi suits. That reduces the killing ability slightly for the slayer logis and all support logis should be unaffected. The tanking ability must stay as is, it's pathetic against rifles anyway... Cheers Mad
Medic 1879 Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 1194	Posted - 2013.11.07 11:48:00 - [97] - Quote Signed TEST signature please help me think of a better one.
richiesutie 2 The Rainbow Effect 482	Posted - 2013.11.07 11:53:00 - [98] - Quote Signed. compilation of Patch/build notes Check it out! :)
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1147	Posted - 2013.11.07 11:56:00 - [99] - Quote A longer TTK would be nice. I would start with a 7% reduction in DPS across the board with the only the plasma cannon and HMG staying at current levels. Also a small reduction in range with the current automatic medium weapons would be nice. The ranges listed with the upcoming rifles are too close for my liking. I understand that each race has a weapon that is supposed to act like the other rifles but they are too close. Why would anyone start putting SP into a weapon that is almost exactly the same as the AR we have now? Let's have some diversity in range, ROF, DPS and damage types. They all seem so similar that I have no reason or want to pump SP into them. Scouts need to be buffed and I don't mean EHP. They need specialized abilities that give them the option to do things and even go places others can't. Create covert ops uplinks that only scouts can carry that don't show up on scans, tie AS range and precision to the suits and give them unique buffs to damage for CQC weapons. Heavies need love also. Lots of people don't like SP sinks but I do. Those SP sinks offer players the ability to change the way the suit/weapons work. Add a skill for range, damage, bullet spread, heat reduction and other heavy focused attributes. We need to bring players in and hold them here by offering unique gameplay. The game feels more like COD every day. I don't mind if a newly released whatever is op or up as long as it gets tweaked. My point is that CCP should stop; back up and start creating the game they wanted instead of capitulating to the forums. Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.
Mac Dac Wraith Shadow Guards 268	Posted - 2013.11.07 12:10:00 - [100] - Quote Lucifalic wrote: How about some actual dispursion on automatic weapons other then the hmg. I u take a full auto assault rifle and empty the magazine at a target in one go you will have hit it a few times with the initial burst, it climbs up and then u fight the thing the rest of the time missing with a lot of bullets. It's just fact. Doesn't matter how experienced you are , ie heavy sp investment, you cannot fire non stop and smoke a target with 99% of your bullets. Increase the dispursion the longer you hold fire for ar's and the likes. Sp investment will allow a slightly longer spray accuracy before looking like an hmg. Force people to burst fire for accurate results. Take away aim assist. Signed we had this in a earlier bulid. back when all weapons sucked including the AR; however the AR sucked less then others. It had an outrageous kick. especially for the TAC and burst. "We should take care not to make intellect our god; it has, of course, strong muscles, but no personality" Albert Einste

TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR The Kaos Legion 461	Posted - 2013.11.07 12:13:00 - [101] - Quote signed. How exactly does a Biscuit gain Valor?
Mors Falce The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 25	Posted - 2013.11.07 12:20:00 - [102] - Quote signed +1
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 1733	Posted - 2013.11.07 12:23:00 - [103] - Quote Signed Use HannariGäó Brand Nanomechanical Repair Tape! Available at a SebeiSTOREGäó Hardware Shop Near You!
Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 3805	Posted - 2013.11.07 12:40:00 - [104] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: LETS GET TTK BACK TO NORMALL So newbs have a chance. so heavys can own face So scouts can stab them in back So assults can chance them down So logistics can pick up the assult as he got blasted by a tank running after a tank. Lets bring this back because as of 1.6 this will no longer happen it will just be med suits with AR spraying madly killing 4 people by chance I think we can all agree that the fixes to hit detection in 1.6 were stellar. However, this has made the issue of all of those rounds actually hitting their targets even more obvious. I'm on board with some of the people here who have been suggesting the removal of the 10% bonus given to all weapons with Uprising to make up for the removal of the Sharpshooter skill. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
superjoe360x D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 110	Posted - 2013.11.07 12:48:00 - [105] - Quote Signed because Its like playing Rainbow Six Vegas with no cover.
Mad Syringe Black Phoenix Mercenaries 37	Posted - 2013.11.08 11:16:00 - [106] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: A longer TTK would be nice. I would start with a 7% reduction in DPS across the board with the only the plasma cannon and HMG staying at current levels. Also a small reduction in range with the current automatic medium weapons would be nice. The ranges listed with the upcoming rifles are too close for my liking. The 7% reduction in DPS schould only apply to all rifle like hitscan weapons (SCR, LR, AR, CR, RR + SMG&SP). All the heavy weapons and the specialty weapons (MD, PLC, Shotgun) should stay as they are. Since TTK with these is ridicoulous compared to all the rifles... The shotgun needs that high power, to give the scouts a chance... Cheers Mad
Jacques Cayton II Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 84	Posted - 2013.11.08 11:34:00 - [107] - Quote Signed I agree bring back ttkl from chromosome build
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 663	Posted - 2013.11.08 11:39:00 - [108] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Will run imperial on a militia heavy frame for that event xD Nice, in my case it will be a viziam scrambler pistol on a standard Gallente scout suit. We will probably get stomped almost as badly as the newberries!
Echoist Fenrir's Wolves Zero-Day 89	Posted - 2013.11.08 11:50:00 - [109] - Quote I got no problem with rollong back the 10% damage, except don't take it off the Laser Rifle we got it hard enough having the AR have the same range as us basically. Signed.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1070	Posted - 2013.11.08 12:01:00 - [110] - Quote 8213 wrote: But the new Exec. Prod. said he wanted to turn up the action... or was it make more money at the f2p system and remove BPOs and also shorten TTK, because more crossover players will come... Shield/Armor tanking is pointless in this game now. 140 armor goes just as fast as 500 armor... Wait, isn't that the guy CCP picked up from EA? I really really hope that you're wrong, my gut says that you are right though. If Dust does try to compete with CoD in a market they're already dominating, it WILL fail and fail hard. Don't let the dreams of dollar signs cause you to stray the course and travel into the land of cookie cutter FPS Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta

nepher sesoch DUST University Ivy League 10	Posted - 2013.11.08 12:02:00 - [111] - Quote +1
steadyhand amarr Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1845	Posted - 2013.11.08 12:17:00 - [112] - Quote Just to be clear fix to HD was very good But it highted a growing ttk problem that started in closed beta when u flattened the suits. So I would say either remove the damage buff or unflatten the suits :-) "my faith is my shield, the empress's light my guide and my fury my sword" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Happy Violentime OMFGZOMBIESRUN 138	Posted - 2013.11.08 12:35:00 - [113] - Quote Signed. Sick and tired of plodding around the battlefield in tanked starter fits...... It's cheap, but not much fun..... need moar fun..
steadyhand amarr Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1845	Posted - 2013.11.08 14:17:00 - [114] - Quote I'm going to keep bumping this till someone from ccp. Bothers to acknowledge that the majority of players are finding the game. Unfun "my faith is my shield, the empress's light my guide and my fury my sword" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Magpie Raven ZionTCD Public Disorder. 279	Posted - 2013.11.08 14:18:00 - [115] - Quote Signed.
IAmDuncanIdaho II R 0 N 1 N 126	Posted - 2013.11.08 14:43:00 - [116] - Quote I'm signing this twice. Yes I'm allowed.
G Torq ALTA B2O 262	Posted - 2013.11.08 20:09:00 - [117] - Quote Reduce TTK - signed Suggestion: Remove 10% damage across the board Why are you even reading this?
GTA V FTW 171	Posted - 2013.11.08 20:12:00 - [118] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: I'm going to keep bumping this till someone from ccp. Bothers to acknowledge that the majority of players are finding the game. Unfun This will be the most bumped thread of all time then! CCP = FPS noobs Meh, broke game will always be broke.
steadyhand amarr Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1855	Posted - 2013.11.08 21:36:00 - [119] - Quote GTA V FTW wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: I'm going to keep bumping this till someone from ccp. Bothers to acknowledge that the majority of players are finding the game. Unfun This will be the most bumped thread of all time then! probably :D "my faith is my shield, the empress's light my guide and my fury my sword" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Dengar Skirata the third day Public Disorder. 19	Posted - 2013.11.08 21:57:00 - [120] - Quote Signed

Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2042	Posted - 2013.11.09 04:45:00 - [121] - Quote Signed. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja. Forum Warrior level 2 Fix my scout already
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 1781	Posted - 2013.11.09 05:17:00 - [122] - Quote Agreed and signed. It's ridiculous out there. I've been logging in for the daily SP and playing only a few matches before I'm logging out and playing something else. Shield and Armor doesn't mean squat now...no amount of leveling up means anything.
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 1320	Posted - 2013.11.09 05:23:00 - [123] - Quote Signed. I'm very close to deleting Dust. It's no longer possible to stay alive for longer than 4 seconds -_- Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself. -Mark Twain :D
Thaddeus Reynolds Facepunch Security 5	Posted - 2013.11.09 05:25:00 - [124] - Quote Signed I liked the happy medium this game had...now it's all Assault Rifles, locus grenades, and Mass Drivers...very few even bother calling in tanks it seems
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 1782	Posted - 2013.11.09 05:32:00 - [125] - Quote It always has been a pretty much AR, locus, MD game but the lifespan of mercenaries has dropped dramatically. I'm afraid to peek my head out around the corner. I'm not one of those completely awesome so fantastic players but I do well for myself. Over the last couple of days, its been terrible. On days I like to lone wolf, I just can't. It's not worth it, ISK wise. Strategy seems lost, its now all about who's got the drop on who first. Even the wife knows of my frustration. She even said yesterday, "damn baby, your team is getting hit harder than usual"
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 636	Posted - 2013.11.09 05:34:00 - [126] - Quote .
Vell0cet Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 524	Posted - 2013.11.09 05:36:00 - [127] - Quote Signed. TTK was too long in 1.3, and slightly too short in 1.4/1.5. As of 1.6 it's game-breaking. As punishment, anyone saying it's fine should have to grind up their tripple SP with a LR. Not all weapons need a nerf. Quick/Dirty Test Range Idea
Icedslayer SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 145	Posted - 2013.11.09 06:24:00 - [128] - Quote Signed. When you you see 90%of the killfeed is AR kills you know you have a balancing problem. With that said i think since AR's are getting there racial variants filled out first, its a good opportunity too see a blanket balance/nerf to the whole AR family. Suggestion to Fix TTK -Link Damage mods to the weapon it self and limiting the amount to a max of 1 mod per weapon. This allows Shield tankers and scouts a opportunity to buff there weapon without having to sacrifice more EHP. -Give us scouts our F@cking strafe speed back!!!, and fix the f@cking ferroscale plate glitch( a logi shouldn't be able too out strafe a scout!) -Bump the Scout (not light Suit) Scan range to 30-40m -Nerf the Assualt logi's!! -Give A slight Armor Hardener buff to Heavies(should be built into the Sentinel Class and buffed per level) -Make AR's a "Skill shot" weapon (Gallente AR) -More Recoil -Slightly lower Fire rate -Smaller Clip 30 (this would make less a spray weapon especially in CQC) -This would apply to the Whole AR family, but Clip size would vary from weapon to weapon -A wider Dispersion when hipfiring -Take away the 10% only on the AR (Testing purpose and to collect data) Overall this game has went from a Strafe shooter, where skill and aiming mattered to a clone of BF3 or BF4, where aiming doesn't really matter along as you land the first shots on your opponent.
Eldest Dragon 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 358	Posted - 2013.11.09 06:59:00 - [129] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: Yeah! I want my strafing shooter back ! **** this cod 5 shot BS me too ... When your playing dust and your frustrated...if all else fails...turn off the ps3 works every time.
steadyhand amarr Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1866	Posted - 2013.11.09 11:56:00 - [130] - Quote rumour is from the CPM that CCP is looking into it and are now gathering numbers to try work out a fix. i have stressed to the CPM we need a dirty fix now and they can play with numbers once the short term game is not damage beyond repair. I will not rest till this is fixed :D "my faith is my shield, the empress's light my guide and my fury my sword" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers

TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1360	Posted - 2013.11.09 12:16:00 - [131] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: I thought that CCP might have an agenda behind this. Since they are not commenting in any threads about TTK. Maybe this is their way of balancing standard vs proto gear? Maybe they want to increase the risk vs reward of running proto? Or maybe they just want to **** people off and steal our ISK? I agree but trying to balance proto with standard? What stupidity is this lol. So they are penalising players who have spent months playing, that have put in loads of effort and bought new players to the game and helped keep players in the game to favour newbs? Name any successful mmo that had done that, the answer is none. Most MMOs the highest level players ohk any newb, in dust newbs can still wreck dependant on how smart they play. Balancing proto with standard gear is the stupidest thing iv heard yet, I'm not holding you to that either I'm just saying. Maybe if they gave new players 1 mil sp and 1 mil isk to start with it would help a lot. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
Broonfondle Majikthies Bannana Boat Corp 407	Posted - 2013.11.09 12:27:00 - [132] - Quote Signed If hit detection is back then they can safely remove the damage increase that was given at the start of uprising to compensate for its absence. Also anyone notice the increase in 'Neo' and 'Construct' gear? I think this might be one reason CCP won't change it. "We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!"
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 4753	Posted - 2013.11.09 12:44:00 - [133] - Quote Working on a ~~dissertation~~ thread about this now. Level 4 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
RedBleach LeSanglant Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 458	Posted - 2013.11.11 06:49:00 - [134] - Quote Signed
Anibal Villacis Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.11.11 06:52:00 - [135] - Quote Signed
Niuvo NECROM0NGERS 738	Posted - 2013.11.11 06:54:00 - [136] - Quote sure signed. dead under .8 sec. against AR. gg
hgghyujh Expert Intervention Caldari State 161	Posted - 2013.11.11 06:58:00 - [137] - Quote agreed. Base HP needs to be at least doubled.
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1202	Posted - 2013.11.11 06:58:00 - [138] - Quote +1 10% reduction on all weapons except HMG a wider difference in the range of light weapons to make the feel different and allow them to fill niche roles. Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 2082	Posted - 2013.11.11 07:00:00 - [139] - Quote what is the proposal? I remember when players had 400+ shields and 100+ armor....now it's out of hand. Only way to compete is to do the same.
Vaerana Myshtana Bojo's School of the Trades 1147	Posted - 2013.11.11 07:09:00 - [140] - Quote I've noticed the insta-kill from the ARs is even worse than when the GEK was the IWBOTM. +1

CharCharOdell 1518	Posted - 2013.11.11 07:37:00 - [141] - Quote AR breaks game. Gùñ-é-º+¼+ò+¦GÖÑ+ú+ú+¡ GÖÑ'Ðe+ü+üGùÑ Gùú -ä>-üð+++Ç++§<-¡<-¡ Gùó Speaker of the Mangrove / King of QQ / Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
taxi bastard Minor Trueblood 16	Posted - 2013.11.11 08:31:00 - [142] - Quote Pro's of current TTK - the gap between the old and new players has decreased. - proto stompers are finding things a lot harder - the l33t corps are not so l33t anymore - without the large advantage which they previously had due to gear differences and the affects on battles they are a lot more mortal. con's of current TTK - you simply die to quick to most light and side arm weapons. at most ranges light frames without tank vs most weapons = 1 swipe though to kill. medium frames vs most light weapons = 1 second to die heavy frames vs most light weapons = 2 seconds to die - its becoming more like COD ect summary in many ways the pro's out way the cons but I don't want to play COD514. so nerf the light and sidearm damage and nerf AA heavily ( will make scope weapons more useful as a result). also make tiered battles so that the reduction in gear vs skill can remain as it is a positive result of all of this.
fawkuima juggalo Eternal Beings 164	Posted - 2013.11.11 08:52:00 - [143] - Quote farm.. #jealous FIGHT FOR A CAUSE, EVEN IF IT'S NEXT TO YOU.
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 250	Posted - 2013.11.11 09:52:00 - [144] - Quote Signed. Dust is at its best when it's as least like CoD as possible. Things are just way out of hand right now....death in a blink of an eye. Really makes the amount of time and effort spent on grinding for proto suit and weapons and complex defensive mods not worth anything.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 928	Posted - 2013.11.11 10:01:00 - [145] - Quote AGREED. This game needs fixing.
Lynn Beck Granite Mercenary Division 213	Posted - 2013.11.11 10:06:00 - [146] - Quote Not even going to read the rest of these pages. /signed! At first i thought i liked this new EP. But now i blame him. First TTK, then the laser rifle, soon(tm i ******* hope) mass drivers with that arming distance balogna, WHAT NEXT. CCP wants me to specialize? But there's so many weapons! 'Unwise SP spending mode activated'
steadyhand amarr Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1880	Posted - 2013.11.11 11:00:00 - [147] - Quote Tbh looks like we are not going see anything till next patch day by which point I should have my new ps4 "my faith is my shield, the empress's light my guide and my fury my sword" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
KGB Sleep Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 370	Posted - 2013.11.11 11:15:00 - [148] - Quote Stop bumping your stupid thread no one cares about. For real.. No blue post = your opinion is wrong. Go eat some cereal.
steadyhand amarr Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1880	Posted - 2013.11.11 15:01:00 - [149] - Quote KGB Sleep wrote: Stop bumping your stupid thread no one cares about. For real.. No blue post = your opinion is wrong. Go eat some cereal. Who are u and why should I care. Pretty much the whole fourm agrees with me along with cpm and top 1% of players. So sorry ur wrong. No blue posts means ccp screwed up and as past history has shown if u don't kick up a fuss ccp just ignores their players. 3/10 for troll also thanks for bumping the post :-) "my faith is my shield, the empress's light my guide and my fury my sword" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 1243	Posted - 2013.11.11 15:15:00 - [150] - Quote SIGNED "Please don't" GÿåForum warrior lvl.1Gÿå

Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 409	Posted - 2013.11.11 15:30:00 - [151] - Quote Dont think I signed this post steadyhand.. SIGNED +¦-damage specialist since Sep ´13. CCP please make our decisions matter. "AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514."
Rowdy Railgunner Xer Cloud Consortium 127	Posted - 2013.11.11 15:41:00 - [152] - Quote Time to kill is fine as is. Quit using glass cannons and you won't die in an instant.
Rowdy Railgunner Xer Cloud Consortium 127	Posted - 2013.11.11 15:44:00 - [153] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: Pretty much the whole fourm agrees with me along with cpm and top 1% of players. So sorry ur wrong. No blue posts means ccp screwed up and as past history has shown if u don't kick up a fuss ccp just ignores their players. 3/10 for troll also thanks for bumping the post :-) Edit: really really bored at work felt like bighting lol sorry if this seemed over hash. But this whole thread proves ya wrong The only people that agree with you are other dumb ***** just like yourself. TTK is not too low, quit stacking DMG mods instead of tank. If you raise the base HP of suits you will need to nerf every tank mod or else you would have unkillable everything running around. Your thoughts are flawed and you need to STFU and HTFU.
Snaps Tremor DUST University Ivy League 357	Posted - 2013.11.11 16:00:00 - [154] - Quote Rowdy Railgunner wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: Pretty much the whole fourm agrees with me along with cpm and top 1% of players. So sorry ur wrong. No blue posts means ccp screwed up and as past history has shown if u don't kick up a fuss ccp just ignores their players. 3/10 for troll also thanks for bumping the post :-) Edit: really really bored at work felt like bighting lol sorry if this seemed over hash. But this whole thread proves ya wrong The only people that agree with you are other dumb ***** just like yourself. TTK is not too low, quit stacking DMG mods instead of tank. If you raise the base HP of suits you will need to nerf every tank mod or else you would have unkillable everything running around. Your thoughts are flawed and you need to STFU and HTFU. Was a personal rant thread not enough?
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 13	Posted - 2013.11.11 16:13:00 - [155] - Quote +1 Signed
steadyhand amarr Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1881	Posted - 2013.11.11 16:18:00 - [156] - Quote Rowdy Railgunner wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: Pretty much the whole fourm agrees with me along with cpm and top 1% of players. So sorry ur wrong. No blue posts means ccp screwed up and as past history has shown if u don't kick up a fuss ccp just ignores their players. 3/10 for troll also thanks for bumping the post :-) Edit: really really bored at work felt like bighting lol sorry if this seemed over hash. But this whole thread proves ya wrong The only people that agree with you are other dumb ***** just like yourself. TTK is not too low, quit stacking DMG mods instead of tank. If you raise the base HP of suits you will need to nerf every tank mod or else you would have unkillable everything running around. Your thoughts are flawed and you need to STFU and HTFU. Sadly my view was born out of research of chatting with other players. The vast majority of players don't like or want the current time to kill. Sorry but you are the one who is wrong. And clearly overvalue your own view on things. I'm happy to debate this the moment u stop posting like a hyper 7 year old who is upset he is not the popular kid. Until that point I'm going to assume you are a troll and not really worth the effort to engage "my faith is my shield, the empress's light my guide and my fury my sword" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
pyramidhead 420 Carbon 7 CRONOS. 141	Posted - 2013.11.11 16:23:00 - [157] - Quote dem likes
Rowdy Railgunner Xer Cloud Consortium 129	Posted - 2013.11.11 16:31:00 - [158] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: Rowdy Railgunner wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: Pretty much the whole fourm agrees with me along with cpm and top 1% of players. So sorry ur wrong. No blue posts means ccp screwed up and as past history has shown if u don't kick up a fuss ccp just ignores their players. 3/10 for troll also thanks for bumping the post :-) Edit: really really bored at work felt like bighting lol sorry if this seemed over hash. But this whole thread proves ya wrong The only people that agree with you are other dumb ***** just like yourself. TTK is not too low, quit stacking DMG mods instead of tank. If you raise the base HP of suits you will need to nerf every tank mod or else you would have unkillable everything running around. Your thoughts are flawed and you need to STFU and HTFU. Sadly my view was born out of research of chatting with other players. The vast majority of players don't like or want the current time to kill. Sorry but you are the one who is wrong. And clearly overvalue your own view on things. I'm happy to debate this the moment u stop posting like a hyper 7 year old who is upset he is not the popular kid. Until that point I'm going to assume you are a troll and not really worth the effort to engage No, your research was born out of chatting with your people which is biased because of your group mentality. That is not a "vast majority" as you say. Fit a tanked proto suit and play a guarded game, TTK is not too low. It is infact just about right. Unless you are getting shot by 2 or more people you have plenty of time to cover and reengage. If you get caught in the open and die, your fault not your suit being too weak. People in this game amuse me with views like yours. You want your cake and eat it too. The fact that a medium suit can have almost 1000 HP is too high.
EternalRMG KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND 583	Posted - 2013.11.11 16:34:00 - [159] - Quote Here, have my Signature "Fight Togheter; Win Together" Duster Since: July 2012 Best DropShip Pilot; Soon To be best Jet Fighter Pilot
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 854	Posted - 2013.11.11 16:36:00 - [160] - Quote I don't take anything from that corporation seriously.

DR FEB The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 43	Posted - 2013.11.11 16:39:00 - [161] - Quote BY THE POWER OF Y.O.L.U.T, I SIGN THIS FINE AND DANDY PETTITION Y.O.L.U.T You Only Live Unlimited Times 'Nuff said
Doshneil Antaro Dem Durrty Boyz Public Disorder. 154	Posted - 2013.11.11 16:50:00 - [162] - Quote The TTK is centered around two key issues. 1. Aim assist locks on. This is unacceptable. It should help pull the cross hairs towards an enemy player on line, and should be easily broken by moving back and forth. Hell, it even auto locks onto players head. 2. Dispersion needs to start kicking in right away, increasing with every round, not after 2/3 of a magazine is emptied. Also, dispersion should not reset instantly, It should be a slow climb down. This rate should match the weapons reload time, but not to exceed 3 seconds.
Dunk Mujunk RestlessSpirits 231	Posted - 2013.11.11 17:28:00 - [163] - Quote Though I don't agree with all the minor details from all the posts here- SIGNED TTK is way to low. If it's going to stay like it is, remove the shield and armor Dropsuit Skills and let me have my SP from them back. I will also generally agree that DMG Mods have some issues, though I don't know the solution. There's about 79 people who have signed this post (just counted the posts that say +1, signed, or made it absolutely clear right off the bat in their post that they agreed). That's a pretty good chunk. I saw this thread a few days ago but have reserved my judgment until now. After 15+ hours of Dust this weekend, I can say that yeah, I agree with the OP. The more I think about it the more I agree DMG Mods are a huge part of the issue. I'd say either limit every suit to a max of 1 DMG Mod, or make the stacking penalty so brutal almost no one will want to use multiple DMG Mods, i.e. the CPU/PG requirements for a second DMG Mod could be doubled or tripled so yeah, you could still run 2 Mods, but you will have to either leave other slots empty or run mostly lower level stuff to keep CPU/PG down. I'm an AR user. The only other weapon I have skilled into at all is Level 1 grenades. Since I have started playing Dust the QQing about ARs has been endless, and I was mostly shrugging it off. But now........I won't actually come out and say say the AR is OP, and I won't weigh in on which aspect of the AR is causing the most trouble, but something is wrong, and it needs to be fixed. Though it's more a combination of the heavy buff and the AR issues, the new FOTM is the Heavy Suit and AR, which is ******* ridiculous (as is the new Shotgun Heavy). And if HTFU is the response, then whatever. It just sucks that with each patch Dust gets farther and farther from being the game it was advertised to be.
Ulme Mees Eesti Leegion 61	Posted - 2013.11.11 17:42:00 - [164] - Quote Dunk Mujunk wrote: Though I don't agree with all the minor details from all the posts here- SIGNED TTK is way to low. If it's going to stay like it is, remove the shield and armor Dropsuit Skills and let me have my SP from them back. I will also generally agree that DMG Mods have some issues, though I don't know the solution. There's about 79 people who have signed this post (just counted the posts that say +1, signed, or made it absolutely clear right off the bat in their post that they agreed). That's a pretty good chunk. I saw this thread a few days ago but have reserved my judgment until now. After 15+ hours of Dust this weekend, I can say that yeah, I agree with the OP. The more I think about it the more I agree DMG Mods are a huge part of the issue. I'd say either limit every suit to a max of 1 DMG Mod, or make the stacking penalty so brutal almost no one will want to use multiple DMG Mods, i.e. the CPU/PG requirements for a second DMG Mod could be doubled or tripled so yeah, you could still run 2 Mods, but you will have to either leave other slots empty or run mostly lower level stuff to keep CPU/PG down. I'm an AR user. The only other weapon I have skilled into at all is Level 1 grenades. Since I have started playing Dust the QQing about ARs has been endless, and I was mostly shrugging it off. But now........I won't actually come out and say say the AR is OP, and I won't weigh in on which aspect of the AR is causing the most trouble, but something is wrong, and it needs to be fixed. Though it's more a combination of the heavy buff and the AR issues, the new FOTM is the Heavy Suit and AR, which is ******* ridiculous (as is the new Shotgun Heavy). And if HTFU is the response, then whatever. It just sucks that with each patch Dust gets farther and farther from being the game it was advertised to be. This is sooooo true. CCP make the fights last abit longer and we will be happy again! Fear is a disease!
JudoDog Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2013.11.11 18:22:00 - [165] - Quote Doshneil Antaro wrote: The TTK is centered around two key issues. 1. Aim assist locks on. This is unacceptable. It should help pull the cross hairs towards an enemy player on line, and should be easily broken by moving back and forth. Hell, it even auto locks onto players head. 2. Dispersion needs to start kicking in right away, increasing with every round, not after 2/3 of a magazine is emptied. Also, dispersion should not reset instantly, It should be a slow climb down. This rate should match the weapons reload time, but not to exceed 3 seconds. +1
Meeko Fent Xer Cloud Consortium 1497	Posted - 2013.11.11 20:19:00 - [166] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: So... Fix MMing Tight HMG reticle and increase range Buff scouts, someway, somehow Leave assaults alone Reduce the Logi health to a reasonable amount so they are used for logi'ing insead of being mega assaults. Give Tanks the capabilities to kill the assault so the logi can pick him up. And fixed. Rather than reducing logi health, why not bring the CPU/PG more in line with Assault CPU/PG and then give them all a blanket reduction in CPU/PG cost for equipment. Allow us to do our jobs while limiting the ability to run an Assault setup on a Logi suit. @OP /signed Well, I believe they should keep their fitting resources for fitting equip, but I don't think they should have a low slot lead on assaults (Theoretically its 2, given they have a free comp armor repper) I feel their slots and bonuses break the suit making it preferable for murderizing, change the bonus for equipment fitting reduction, and mirror the high, low, and base stats across the two med frames For the State! For Caldari FW join Caldari Hierarchy
Meeko Fent Xer Cloud Consortium 1497	Posted - 2013.11.11 20:23:00 - [167] - Quote Doshneil Antaro wrote: The TTK is centered around two key issues. 1. Aim assist locks on. This is unacceptable. It should help pull the cross hairs towards an enemy player on line, and should be easily broken by moving back and forth. Hell, it even auto locks onto players head. 2. Dispersion needs to start kicking in right away, increasing with every round, not after 2/3 of a magazine is emptied. Also, dispersion should not reset instantly, It should be a slow climb down. This rate should match the weapons reload time, but not to exceed 3 seconds. Hmm? Show me this. I use DS3 exclusively and it doesn't feel like how you describe AA But if it's just something I'm just not noticing, then yeah. It should do that. I agree fully on your second point though For the State! For Caldari FW join Caldari Hierarchy
Meeko Fent Xer Cloud Consortium 1497	Posted - 2013.11.11 20:35:00 - [168] - Quote Booker DaFooker wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Mirataf wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: So... Fix MMing Tight HMG reticle and increase range Buff scouts, someway, somehow Leave assaults alone Reduce the Logi health to a reasonable amount so they are used for logi'ing insead of being mega assaults. Give Tanks the capabilities to kill the assault so the logi can pick him up. And fixed. Not bad, although I would suggest nerfing logi health isn't right. They should be penalised for damage output When we got the 10% blanket increase to all weapons back in the day, perhaps we should now reduce it by 20% then add 2% per level for all suits including basic but not on the logi I am suggesting Logi's Health being brought down to assault heath. Those sum bitches can get 1200 HP. Assaults get 900. Why do they need so much more? Just equalize everything about the two besides the sidearm and equipment slots. Only weirdo is the Amarr Logi, which just needs to have a moderate loss in either speed or health to balance it out. Because we spend half our time without an offensive weapon in our hands keeping everyone alive/supplied/informed and without that protection we can't even take the slightest risk to help others out. It is pretty much like that now as even a 1000 hp Barely gives you a second of survival time, ridiculous! Question, why the hell are you repping your squad when your getting slammed by reddots? Really, repping is usually done after a firefight from what I've seen, the rest of the time you are melting guys. This isn't aimed at truebros, they aren't breaking the game with the super tanks. It's to kill the evil assault logis from hell. How would you feel about moving at assault speed, with a 50% fitting reduction to equipment, while just having the same EHP as those whom your assisting? It doesn't seem like it would break the class like you say it would. For the State! For Caldari FW join Caldari Hierarchy
trollface dot jpg The Bacon Corporation 111	Posted - 2013.11.11 20:42:00 - [169] - Quote I approve this message. I also immediately demand a pair of pink and purple fuzzy legwarmers that dispense 5 flavors of soda for having to put up with be foe so long already.
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 721	Posted - 2013.11.11 20:49:00 - [170] - Quote Have been saying this since the TAR first began to run Uprising. TTK needs to be pushed back to Chromosome levels. It's already been over half a year since Uprising hit, and apart from the visuals Uprising has yet to come CLOSE to Chromosome's level of game-balance. Chromosome had almost impeccable balance to begin with apart from one or two exceptions, surely if you were ale to release such a stable system first try with Chrome, you can fix Uprising's balance in under 10 months... right? Right? RIGHT!? PLEASE TELL ME YOU CAN!?!?!? (GÇó_GÇó) ( GÇó_GÇó)>GîÉGûá-Gûá (GîÉGûá_Gûá)

Doshneil Antaro Dem Durrty Boyz Public Disorder. 154	Posted - 2013.11.11 21:11:00 - [171] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Doshneil Antaro wrote: The TTK is centered around two key issues. 1. Aim assist locks on. This is unacceptable. It should help pull the cross hairs towards an enemy player on line, and should be easily broken by moving back and forth. Hell, it even auto locks onto players head. 2. Dispersion needs to start kicking in right away, increasing with every round, not after 2/3 of a magazine is emptied. Also, dispersion should not reset instantly, It should be a slow climb down. This rate should match the weapons reload time, but not to exceed 3 seconds. Hmm? Show me this. I use DS3 exclusively and it doesn't feel like how you describe AA But if it's just something I'm just not noticing, then yeah. It should do that. I agree fully on your second point though after you are on target, stop using the sticks except for minor adjustments on a running enemy. For head shots, tap the thumb stick up gently. unless the enemy is using speed mods and kb/m strafing, the lock on generally stays on target with little input from your controller.
Beld Errmon The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 1112	Posted - 2013.11.11 21:38:00 - [172] - Quote Signed, don't want a twitch shooter.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1081	Posted - 2013.11.11 21:46:00 - [173] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: So... Fix MMing Tight HMG reticle and increase range Buff scouts, someway, somehow Leave assaults alone Reduce the Logi health to a reasonable amount so they are used for logi'ing insead of being mega assaults. Give Tanks the capabilities to kill the assault so the logi can pick him up. And fixed. Rather than reducing logi health, why not bring the CPU/PG more in line with Assault CPU/PG and then give them all a blanket reduction in CPU/PG cost for equipment. Allow us to do our jobs while limiting the ability to run an Assault setup on a Logi suit. @OP /signed Well, I believe they should keep their fitting resources for fitting equip, but I don't think they should have a low slot lead on assaults (Theoretically its 2, given they have a free comp armor repper) I feel their slots and bonuses break the suit making it preferable for murderizing, change the bonus for equipment fitting reduction, and mirror the high, low, and base stats across the two med frames I can support that change. Give the medium frames the CPU/PG and raw hp of the Assault dropsuit and the high/low slot layout of the Logistics dropsuit (leave the equipment and weapons slots unchanged for both suits). Remove Damage mods entirely and give the Assault dropsuit a blanket increase to damage output for their racial weapons Remove the repper bonus and give the Logistics dropsuit a blanket reduction to the cost of equipment and voila, no more Assport Logis Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Lightning xVx R 0 N 1 N 332	Posted - 2013.11.11 22:03:00 - [174] - Quote I specced into AR today and got to just level 1 in proficiency.....WTF, CCP you made it ******** strong. No wonder no one else wants to use anything but AR and Scrambler Rifles.
Meeko Fent Xer Cloud Consortium 1501	Posted - 2013.11.11 22:46:00 - [175] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: So... Fix MMing Tight HMG reticle and increase range Buff scouts, someway, somehow Leave assaults alone Reduce the Logi health to a reasonable amount so they are used for logi'ing insead of being mega assaults. Give Tanks the capabilities to kill the assault so the logi can pick him up. And fixed. Rather than reducing logi health, why not bring the CPU/PG more in line with Assault CPU/PG and then give them all a blanket reduction in CPU/PG cost for equipment. Allow us to do our jobs while limiting the ability to run an Assault setup on a Logi suit. @OP /signed Well, I believe they should keep their fitting resources for fitting equip, but I don't think they should have a low slot lead on assaults (Theoretically its 2, given they have a free comp armor repper) I feel their slots and bonuses break the suit making it preferable for murderizing, change the bonus for equipment fitting reduction, and mirror the high, low, and base stats across the two med frames I can support that change. Give the medium frames the CPU/PG and raw hp of the Assault dropsuit and the high/low slot layout of the Logistics dropsuit (leave the equipment and weapons slots unchanged for both suits). Remove Damage mods entirely and give the Assault dropsuit a blanket increase to damage output for their racial weapons Remove the repper bonus and give the Logistics dropsuit a blanket reduction to the cost of equipment and voila, no more Assport Logis I agree. For the State! For Caldari FW join Caldari Hierarchy
echo47 Minmatar Republic 98	Posted - 2013.11.11 22:48:00 - [176] - Quote TTK is fine use cover and evasion. I still see good players going 20 and 1 in assault suits, Heavies and Scouts on a regular basis, sometimes more than one. So does the short TTK only affect some people and not others. I actually die less than I did before. Posts would be better spent QQing for player to player trading or a viable market. I guess true Dust players have mastered the whine. -1
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1688	Posted - 2013.11.11 23:22:00 - [177] - Quote echo47 wrote: TTK is fine use cover and evasion. I still see good players going 20 and 1 in assault suits, Heavies and Scouts on a regular basis, sometimes more than one. So does the short TTK only affect some people and not others. I actually die less than I did before. Posts would be better spent QQing for player to player trading or a viable market. I guess true Dust players have mastered the whine. -1 you didn't ever play in Chrome, let alone closed beta... CEO of The Corporate Raiders, We're still recruiting... Level 1 Forum Warrior
Myth the Enigma Intara Direct Action Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.11.11 23:39:00 - [178] - Quote Forum lurker 1st post: signature
echo47 Minmatar Republic 98	Posted - 2013.11.11 23:41:00 - [179] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: echo47 wrote: TTK is fine use cover and evasion. I still see good players going 20 and 1 in assault suits, Heavies and Scouts on a regular basis, sometimes more than one. So does the short TTK only affect some people and not others. I actually die less than I did before. Posts would be better spent QQing for player to player trading or a viable market. I guess true Dust players have mastered the whine. -1 you didn't ever play in Chrome, let alone closed beta... Been playing since Jan 2013. And what does that have to do with anything?
TunRa New Age Pirates 214	Posted - 2013.11.11 23:43:00 - [180] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: Yeah! I want my strafing shooter back ! **** this cod 5 shot BS I dodn't want Dance Dance 514 again, my heavy ass couldn't kill anything. Is this where I write the signature? No?

Rowdy Railgunner Xer Cloud Consortium 142	Posted - 2013.11.11 23:49:00 - [181] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: Yeah! I want my strafing shooter back ! **** this cod 5 shot BS Meanwhile, strafing was practically invented when HALO came out and perfected on COD2 and is a twitch shooter mechanic. CS, COD, TF.... yeah you want a twitch game there Mara. Go play something else if that is what you want.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1081	Posted - 2013.11.12 01:39:00 - [182] - Quote TunRa wrote: DJINN Marauder wrote: Yeah! I want my strafing shooter back ! **** this cod 5 shot BS I dodn't want Dance Dance 514 again, my heavy ass couldn't kill anything. DD514 must die. I was against it last year and I am still against it. Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Onesimus Tarsus Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 675	Posted - 2013.11.12 02:21:00 - [183] - Quote Signed
CHIPMINT BUTTERCUP 143	Posted - 2013.11.12 12:55:00 - [184] - Quote Meh no blue tag love this subject has been rejected! DUST514 I love the dream but not the current product. Dusters - WhenGäó CCP - SoonGäó
Snaps Tremor DUST University Ivy League 368	Posted - 2013.11.12 12:58:00 - [185] - Quote Just to clarify, I did not vote for this thread to get a 'strafing shooter' back. I voted for it to get a shooter that isn't flat, in the sense that there are a lot of diverse, reasonably balanced options and all of them are viable. This is the opposite of where it's at right now.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 444	Posted - 2013.11.12 12:58:00 - [186] - Quote CCP is monitoring the TTK apparently. Collecting statistics. CPM has brought this issue up with CCP. Lets just wait and see what happens. Meanwhile, I do not play this game. +¦-damage specialist since Sep ´13. CCP please make our decisions matter. "AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514."
Snaps Tremor DUST University Ivy League 371	Posted - 2013.11.12 13:16:00 - [187] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: CCP is monitoring the TTK apparently. Collecting statistics. CPM has brought this issue up with CCP. Lets just wait and see what happens. Meanwhile, I do not play this game. Statistic-munching works brilliantly for Eve, a game which is basically one large constantly running equation with a pretty GUI. Unfortunately, Dust does have an actual game running on top of those numbers, and you cannot fully comprehend the frustration of 95% of your deaths being to mouth breathing AR tanks until you've lost those clones up close and personal.
Rei Shepard Spectre II 905	Posted - 2013.11.12 13:17:00 - [188] - Quote Rowdy Railgunner wrote: DJINN Marauder wrote: Yeah! I want my strafing shooter back ! **** this cod 5 shot BS Meanwhile, strafing was practically invented when HALO came out and perfected on COD2 and is a twitch shooter mechanic. CS, COD, TF.... yeah you want a twitch game there Mara. Go play something else if that is what you want. I am pretty sure Strafing was invented when we got Doom on our PC's, you know when we were still using DOS 6.2, Norton Commanders and the Mouse hadnt been introduced to the shooter genre....oh wait you werent born back then ... I know i was strafing my *ss off when the Cyber demon was shooting rockets my way ....loads of ...rockets...or in Deathmatch over Coaxial cable networked games, someone unloaded the Plasma gun in your general direction. Halo ..invented strafing .../facepalm Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 444	Posted - 2013.11.12 13:19:00 - [189] - Quote Like I wrote in earlier (in another thread): Spectral Clone wrote: Statistics aside, if you dont know how changes 'really' affect the players your game can drift away from the vision. +¦-damage specialist since Sep ´13. CCP please make our decisions matter. "AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514."
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 444	Posted - 2013.11.12 13:22:00 - [190] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: Rowdy Railgunner wrote: DJINN Marauder wrote: Yeah! I want my strafing shooter back ! **** this cod 5 shot BS Meanwhile, strafing was practically invented when HALO came out and perfected on COD2 and is a twitch shooter mechanic. CS, COD, TF.... yeah you want a twitch game there Mara. Go play something else if that is what you want. I am pretty sure Strafing was invented when we got Doom on our PC's, you know when we were still using DOS 6.2, Norton Commanders and the Mouse hadnt been introduced to the shooter genre....oh wait you werent born back then ... I know i was strafing my ss off when the Cyber demon was shooting rockets my way ....loads of ...rockets...or in Deathmatch over Coaxial cable networked games, someone unloaded the Plasma gun in your general direction. Halo ..invented strafing .../facepalm Gotta love them coaxial networks. My childhood friend had brothers who at the time were studying to become engineers. We would join them and play HeXeN deathmatch against each other for hours... awesome times. LOL @ strafing being first done in HALO and COD. Some people just need to learn gaming history. The high HP strafing shooter we had previously, seemed very much like EVE (where you orbit your targets instead of strafe them). It was one thing that made this game unique if you compare it to other games. Also the skill tree and soon to be economy of course. But the high HP strafing gameplay really was something fresh for me. +¦-damage specialist since Sep ´13. CCP please make our decisions matter.* "AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514."

Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5178	Posted - 2013.11.17 23:07:00 - [191] - Quote Bump. Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Supporter of CCP raRaRa.
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 3786	Posted - 2013.11.18 00:39:00 - [192] - Quote As long as the change is done with extreme caution and done carefully. Longer TTK inevitably means that there is going to be more time to open/close range, which is important in the sense that range ultimately governs a fight. There's also a number of imbalances at the moment (one example being that Gallente Assault suits have a 25% bonus to shield recharge rate) that need to be taken into account as increased TTK makes these small things more noticeable. It goes from sandpaper being mildly annoying to razor wire shredding, when applied to the skin, as an example. It's true that the line between play styles gets a little blurred. I for one don't think that an ASCR should be able to outright kill me as fast an AR when I'm an armor tanker but it should still possess the potential to do so if I'm not careful. It's VERY IMPORTANT to take these balancing factors into account when considering how to increase TTK as simply making blanket changes like increasing HP values or reducing weapon damage values only opens up the mechanical issues to being overarching problems. This could be as simple as changing resistance values so that shield based weaponry has more/less an effective depending on what it's engaging (shield/armor) but I don't like suggesting direct changes as there's a lot of options that need to be explored. I don't feel this is just an issue of weapons doing too much damage, having too much range or suits having too little EHP - there's a lot of things to consider. In essence, my only concern is that this is done carefully and with a surgeon's precision rather than like a pipe wrench lobotomy. Roles should have immediately noticeable impact and there should be conscious thought and decision making on combat rather than the current "my weapon does damage so I can kill anything" mindset. ANON Diplomat -//- I Support SP Rollover ^_^
SgtDoughnut Red Star Jr. EoN. 377	Posted - 2013.11.18 00:40:00 - [193] - Quote Yes please, all this twitch based COD bs makes me wonder if we are even wearing advanced suits of powered armor.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1107	Posted - 2013.11.18 00:47:00 - [194] - Quote I've been thinking about this a lot lately and this is the conclusion I've come to. If TTK is to stay this fast, all movement speeds need to be drastically reduced. If the fast movement speeds are what is desired, then TTK needs to be much slower. Either way will improve the pacing of the game. Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 3786	Posted - 2013.11.18 00:50:00 - [195] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: I've been thinking about this a lot lately and this is the conclusion I've come to. If TTK is to stay this fast, all movement speeds need to be drastically reduced. If the fast movement speeds are what is desired, then TTK needs to be much slower. Either way will improve the pacing of the game. If you slow down movement speed and increase TTK than nothing really changes as you can stay on target for longer. ANON Diplomat -//- I Support SP Rollover ^_^
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1107	Posted - 2013.11.18 00:58:00 - [196] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: I've been thinking about this a lot lately and this is the conclusion I've come to. If TTK is to stay this fast, all movement speeds need to be drastically reduced. If the fast movement speeds are what is desired, then TTK needs to be much slower. Either way will improve the pacing of the game. If you slow down movement speed and increase TTK than nothing really changes as you can stay on target for longer. I think you misread me or I wasn't as clear as I thought I was. If TTK stays as it is currently, movement speeds should be halved (if not more). If fast movement speeds are what is desired, TTK should be increased greatly (either by greatly increasing EHP for all suits or greatly reducing DPS potential for all weapons). Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
NOAMIzzzzz Pradox One Proficiency V. 58	Posted - 2013.11.18 01:09:00 - [197] - Quote The OP is right...And sighned.
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 3786	Posted - 2013.11.18 02:24:00 - [198] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: I've been thinking about this a lot lately and this is the conclusion I've come to. If TTK is to stay this fast, all movement speeds need to be drastically reduced. If the fast movement speeds are what is desired, then TTK needs to be much slower. Either way will improve the pacing of the game. If you slow down movement speed and increase TTK than nothing really changes as you can stay on target for longer. I think you misread me or I wasn't as clear as I thought I was. If TTK stays as it is currently, movement speeds should be halved (if not more). If the movement speed is halved than players would be moving more slowly than Heavies. Can you imagine a Scout moving as fast as a Logistics? How easy that would be to kill? TTK would be even worse than it is. ANON Diplomat -//- I Support SP Rollover ^_^
Adiran Zanzalin PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16	Posted - 2013.11.18 02:26:00 - [199] - Quote /signed Amarr Victor!!
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1107	Posted - 2013.11.18 03:10:00 - [200] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: I've been thinking about this a lot lately and this is the conclusion I've come to. If TTK is to stay this fast, all movement speeds need to be drastically reduced. If the fast movement speeds are what is desired, then TTK needs to be much slower. Either way will improve the pacing of the game. If you slow down movement speed and increase TTK than nothing really changes as you can stay on target for longer. I think you misread me or I wasn't as clear as I thought I was. If TTK stays as it is currently, movement speeds should be halved (if not more). If the movement speed is halved than players would be moving more slowly than Heavies. Can you imagine a Scout moving as fast as a Logistics? How easy that would be to kill? TTK would be even worse than it is. Maybe halved would be a little extreme, though I still feel it should be reduced if TTK is to stay as it is currently. Perhaps increasing map distances and scaling back movement speeds would achieve the effect that I am thinking would improve pacing. Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta

TEBOW BAGGINS The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1043	Posted - 2013.11.18 03:41:00 - [201] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: Roll back the 10% damage buff of a couple patches ago and lets see how she plays. In other words, signed. or they could remove the aimbot that no one ever asked for
steadyhand amarr Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1931	Posted - 2013.11.18 11:24:00 - [202] - Quote TEBOW BAGGINS wrote: Zahle Undt wrote: Roll back the 10% damage buff of a couple patches ago and lets see how she plays. In other words, signed. or they could remove the aimbot that no one ever asked for Except loads of people did ask for it. And it was proven by players themselves that AA is weaker in dust than any of big shooters out on the market at the moment. So ur statement is horrificly out of date to be fashionable. Thanks for bump though. Iv given up though waiting for ps4 and killzone now :-) "my faith is my shield, the empress's light my guide and my fury my sword" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
THUNDERGROOVE ZionTCD Public Disorder. 1252	Posted - 2013.11.18 11:31:00 - [203] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: Roll back the 10% damage buff of a couple patches ago and lets see how she plays. In other words, signed. How about cut all hitscan weapons damage by 1/3rd instead? ZionTCD Director & Ammar Loyalist Amarr Sentinel \| Amarr Logi \| *Losematar* Scout What is a signature?
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 735	Posted - 2013.11.18 11:59:00 - [204] - Quote Throw in an end to nade, hive and uplink spamming andGÇª signed. If the pen is mightier than the sword, in a duel I'll let you have the pen! -Steven Wright
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1108	Posted - 2013.11.18 12:16:00 - [205] - Quote THUNDERGROOVE wrote: Zahle Undt wrote: Roll back the 10% damage buff of a couple patches ago and lets see how she plays. In other words, signed. How about cut all hitscan weapons damage by 1/3rd instead? I just noticed your sig, lol@losematar, I seem to remember some prison sex last night and we weren't the violated ones..... At least IIRC, that wasn't the one we lost. On Topic: Yes, TTK needs some serious help. Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Rannici Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 106	Posted - 2013.11.18 13:14:00 - [206] - Quote Quote: Roll back the 10% damage buff of a couple patches ago and lets see how she plays. In other words, signed. signed
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 736	Posted - 2013.11.18 14:14:00 - [207] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: LETS GET TTK BACK TO NORMALL So newbs have a chance. so heavys can own face So scouts can stab them in back So assults can chase them down So logistics can pick up the assult as he got blasted by a tank running after a tank. Lets bring this back because as of 1.6 this will no longer happen it will just be med suits with AR spraying madly killing 4 people by chance You know.... this may be a little off topic, but I feel it needs to be said. The majority of the Imperfects spent the majority of closed beta trying to troll Dust into submission, trying to shame it into a decent game rather than being constructive and avoiding conflict for the good of the conversation. Now look at you guys. There are only a few of you left in that corp, but the few left are the few who actually have the patience for conversation without your ego trying to strangle every person who disagrees with you into submission with death threats and troll rage rants. It's kinda peaceful without the Zitro's and the rest going out of their way to steamroll ideas into the game. Sure, people still try to do it, but I've yet to see anyone do it as effectively as they did. You know.... I kinda miss those days.... damn nostalgia..... sniffle Anyway.... I had a point here.... hold on.... Oh yeah. I wanted to say that if you guys ever decide to rebuild, you would have an entirely new image for yourselves now since several of you guys have actually been pretty active and positive here in the forums for a long while. So congrats for giving yourselves a new self-image, at least to the noobs lol. And of course: LETS GET TTK BACK TO NORMAL!!!!!!!!!!!! EXERCISE... EX AR CISE... EGXS AR SISE... EGS ARE SISE... EGGS ARE SIDES.... FOR BACON..... BACON.
steadyhand amarr Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1933	Posted - 2013.11.18 14:22:00 - [208] - Quote Uh thanks I think lol "my faith is my shield, the empress's light my guide and my fury my sword" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1109	Posted - 2013.11.18 14:36:00 - [209] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: LETS GET TTK BACK TO NORMALL So newbs have a chance. so heavys can own face So scouts can stab them in back So assults can chase them down So logistics can pick up the assult as he got blasted by a tank running after a tank. Lets bring this back because as of 1.6 this will no longer happen it will just be med suits with AR spraying madly killing 4 people by chance You know.... this may be a little off topic, but I feel it needs to be said. The majority of the Imperfects spent the majority of closed beta trying to troll Dust into submission, trying to shame it into a decent game rather than being constructive and avoiding conflict for the good of the conversation. Now look at you guys. There are only a few of you left in that corp, but the few left are the few who actually have the patience for conversation without your ego trying to strangle every person who disagrees with you into submission with death threats and troll rage rants. It's kinda peaceful without the Zitro's and the rest going out of their way to steamroll ideas into the game. Sure, people still try to do it, but I've yet to see anyone do it as effectively as they did. You know.... I kinda miss those days.... damn nostalgia..... sniffle Anyway.... I had a point here.... hold on.... Oh yeah. I wanted to say that if you guys ever decide to rebuild, you would have an entirely new image for yourselves now since several of you guys have actually been pretty active and positive here in the forums for a long while. So congrats for giving yourselves a new self-image, at least to the noobs lol. And of course: LETS GET TTK BACK TO NORMAL!!!!!!!!!!!! Your offtopic remarks are so true, it is a shame that there will probably always be those like you and I who remember the ugly truth about them. I wouldn't be surprised to find that their rep will forever be tarnished by their Closed Beta behavior (at least in the eyes of some). On topic: FIX TTK NAO!!!!!!! Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 337	Posted - 2013.11.18 15:01:00 - [210] - Quote 1 grenade for everyone! except sleek then you get 2!! Grenades come from a different ammo pool then all the other ammo! Separate nanohives for grenades!

Gorra Snell The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 231	Posted - 2013.11.18 17:40:00 - [211] - Quote Still waiting for TTK fix...I gave it some time, and with considered opinion I say the state of the game is less fun as TTK decreases. Remove RDVs from the game.
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 737	Posted - 2013.11.19 06:08:00 - [212] - Quote I will continue to post here at least once a day until TTK get's fixed. Or until I forget to post. In which case I'll post the next time I remember to. But I WILL help keep this thread bumped dammit! EXERCISE... EX AR CISE... EGXS AR SISE... EGS ARE SISE... EGGS ARE SIDES.... FOR BACON..... BACON.
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 737	Posted - 2013.11.19 06:16:00 - [213] - Quote Oh, and just so we're clear, there are very few people whom I respect enough to "rally" behind when called upon for it. This support is not only because you're thread is important, but because I appreciate all the work you've put into this forum over the last year plus. I may be a vet to most, but you are a vet even to me. Hat's off to you sir for your dedication. o7 EXERCISE... EX AR CISE... EGXS AR SISE... EGS ARE SISE... EGGS ARE SIDES.... FOR BACON..... BACON.
steadyhand amarr Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1935	Posted - 2013.11.19 08:36:00 - [214] - Quote :-) I strongly hope ccp has taken this time to get the numbers right if they don't fix the ttk issue that will be them declaring that's how like it and I shall move onto somthing else. Tldr:1.7 needs to be amzaballs for me to start playing again "my faith is my shield, the empress's light my guide and my fury my sword" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 543	Posted - 2013.11.19 08:38:00 - [215] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: :-) I strongly hope ccp has taken this time to get the numbers right if they don't fix the ttk issue that will be them declaring that's how like it and I shall move onto somthing else. Tldr:1.7 needs to be amzaballs for me to start playing again I really hope CCP has a get-out-of-fail trump card, called 1.7, too. KDR > ALL ME > KDR ME > ALL
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 742	Posted - 2013.11.20 04:09:00 - [216] - Quote Daily bump, MAKE IT HAPPEN CCP! EXERCISE... EX AR CISE... EGXS AR SISE... EGS ARE SISE... EGGS ARE SIDES.... FOR BACON..... BACON.
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 742	Posted - 2013.11.20 11:06:00 - [217] - Quote And bump again, FIX this CCP. You know it's an issue, we know it's an issue, at least let us know you acknowledge it's an issue and let us know if you have people looking into it or at least if it's scheduled to be looked at. EXERCISE... EX AR CISE... EGXS AR SISE... EGS ARE SISE... EGGS ARE SIDES.... FOR BACON..... BACON.
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 744	Posted - 2013.11.21 02:05:00 - [218] - Quote Bump #3, still waiting CCP EXERCISE... EX AR CISE... EGXS AR SISE... EGS ARE SISE... EGGS ARE SIDES.... FOR BACON..... BACON.
Crash Monster Snipers Anonymous 1805	Posted - 2013.11.21 02:16:00 - [219] - Quote The lower the TTK the less tactics and teamwork required.
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 744	Posted - 2013.11.21 05:40:00 - [220] - Quote Crash Monster wrote: The lower the TTK the less tactics and teamwork required. QFT EXERCISE... EX AR CISE... EGXS AR SISE... EGS ARE SISE... EGGS ARE SIDES.... FOR BACON..... BACON.

Kazeno Rannaa BIG BAD W0LVES 323	Posted - 2013.11.21 06:00:00 - [221] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: LETS GET TTK BACK TO NORMALL So newbs have a chance. so heavys can own face So scouts can stab them in back So assults can chase them down So logistics can pick up the assult as he got blasted by a tank running after a tank. Lets bring this back because as of 1.6 this will no longer happen it will just be med suits with AR spraying madly killing 4 people by chance TTK is fine. Sometimes you win some, sometimes you lose some. The is too much crying and not enough soaking of the tears. But your tears can power my dropsuit and my scrambler rifle. I donGÇÖt even like using the Imperial. Too expensive and I make more cash with cheaper gear. Plus it takes better team work and obviously more skill. Who are you people. What planet are you from? I only ask so I can park a Titan in orbit to glass it.
steadyhand amarr Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1947	Posted - 2013.11.21 08:35:00 - [222] - Quote Kazeno Rannaa wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: LETS GET TTK BACK TO NORMALL So newbs have a chance. so heavys can own face So scouts can stab them in back So assults can chase them down So logistics can pick up the assult as he got blasted by a tank running after a tank. Lets bring this back because as of 1.6 this will no longer happen it will just be med suits with AR spraying madly killing 4 people by chance TTK is fine. Sometimes you win some, sometimes you lose some. The is too much crying and not enough soaking of the tears. But your tears can power my dropsuit and my scrambler rifle. I donGÇÖt even like using the Imperial. Too expensive and I make more cash with cheaper gear. Plus it takes better team work and obviously more skill. Who are you people. What planet are you from? I only ask so I can park a Titan in orbit to glass it. Bangs head on desk I'm glad u like the game at the moment but everything u enjoy about it is why I hate it. I can make more isk running around in free fits. That's not right the higher the risk(ie ur suit) the more reward u should be getting. And I disagree with ur teamwork statement back in closed un beta. You HAD to stick together to do anything this is why closed beta vets are si freaking good at this game. Teamwork was mandatory. At the moment all I need to do is slap on a free fit and run madly at the point I will drop at least 4 people and newberrys will clean up. Also 12 pages over 100 likes and not even an how do you do. Ccp lessens to their players my ass. U only post in threads that agree with ur current thinking to make it look like ur paying attention "my faith is my shield, the empress's light my guide and my fury my sword" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1127	Posted - 2013.11.21 12:01:00 - [223] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: Kazeno Rannaa wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: LETS GET TTK BACK TO NORMALL So newbs have a chance. so heavys can own face So scouts can stab them in back So assults can chase them down So logistics can pick up the assult as he got blasted by a tank running after a tank. Lets bring this back because as of 1.6 this will no longer happen it will just be med suits with AR spraying madly killing 4 people by chance TTK is fine. Sometimes you win some, sometimes you lose some. The is too much crying and not enough soaking of the tears. But your tears can power my dropsuit and my scrambler rifle. I donGÇÖt even like using the Imperial. Too expensive and I make more cash with cheaper gear. Plus it takes better team work and obviously more skill. Who are you people. What planet are you from? I only ask so I can park a Titan in orbit to glass it. Bangs head on desk I'm glad u like the game at the moment but everything u enjoy about it is why I hate it. I can make more isk running around in free fits. That's not right the higher the risk(ie ur suit) the more reward u should be getting. And I disagree with ur teamwork statement back in closed un beta. You HAD to stick together to do anything this is why closed beta vets are si freaking good at this game. Teamwork was mandatory. At the moment all I need to do is slap on a free fit and run madly at the point I will drop at least 4 people and newberrys will clean up. Also 12 pages over 100 likes and not even an how do you do. Ccp lessens to their players my ass. U only post in threads that agree with ur current thinking to make it look like ur paying attention Don't worry steadyhand, that dbag is a hypocrite who thinks he can belittle people and tell them that they are wrong for their opinion that others are wrong. Just igmore him or he'll end up projecting his own OCD control issues on you. Better not ** him off either or he'll put a bounty on your head that is less than can be earned in a pub. ***** hypocritical tool.... Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
medomai grey WarRavens League of Infamy 364	Posted - 2013.11.21 12:10:00 - [224] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: LETS GET TTK BACK TO NORMALL So newbs have a chance. so heavys can own face So scouts can stab them in back So assults can chase them down So logistics can pick up the assult as he got blasted by a tank running after a tank. Lets bring this back because as of 1.6 this will no longer happen it will just be med suits with AR spraying madly killing 4 people by chance I've noticed a slight increase in TTK. I'm not sure if its because CCP did some ninja work or I've drunk too much coffee and gained super powers. But yea, TTK is still to short. Maybe this is addressed in 1.7? Blatant Dust_514 recruiting in the silliest of places. :P
steadyhand amarr Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1949	Posted - 2013.11.21 13:50:00 - [225] - Quote More likely HD went a bit wonky :-P "my faith is my shield, the empress's light my guide and my fury my sword" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 744	Posted - 2013.11.21 20:29:00 - [226] - Quote Bump CCP. I SAID BUMP G******T!!!! NOTICE YOUR PLAYERS AND PAYERS CONCERNS! EXERCISE... EX AR CISE... EGXS AR SISE... EGS ARE SISE... EGGS ARE SIDES.... FOR BACON..... BACON.
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 745	Posted - 2013.11.22 05:03:00 - [227] - Quote This reprimand from what will one day be a classic game is a good metaphorical analogue for showing how I feel about CCP's game changes. Obviously, CCP is Serviceman Chung and the slug is CCP's attempts to take out a major game issue. "Every five seconds, the main gun of an Everest-class dreadnought accelerates 1 to 1.3 percent of light speed. It impacts with the force of a 38-kiloton bomb. That is three times the yield of the city-buster dropped on Hiroshima back on Earth. That means Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest son-of-a-b**** in space. Now, Serviceman Burnside! What is Newton's First Law?" -" Sir! An object in motion stays in motion, sir!" "No credit for partial answers, maggot!" -" Sir! Unless acted on by an outside force, sir!" "Damn straight! I dare to assume you ignorant jackasses know that space is empty. Once you fire this hunk of metal, it keeps going till it hits something. That can be a ship, or the planet behind that ship. It might go off into deep space and hit somebody else in ten thousand years. If you pull the trigger on this, you are ruining someone's day, somewhere and sometime. That is why you check your damn targets! That is why you wait for the computer to give you a firing solution! That is why, Serviceman Chung, we do not "eyeball it!" This is a weapon of mass destruction. You are not a cowboy shooting from the hip!" ~ Mass Effect 2 And that my friends, is my bump for today. EXERCISE... EX AR CISE... EGXS AR SISE... EGS ARE SISE... EGGS ARE SIDES.... FOR BACON..... BACON.
Thanatus Sleep 11	Posted - 2013.11.22 05:24:00 - [228] - Quote not a true Dust players only an alt. XXXXXX *Im a sad merc* Aq-Rg
Meeko Fent Commando Perkone Caldari State 1653	Posted - 2013.11.22 05:35:00 - [229] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: Kazeno Rannaa wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: LETS GET TTK BACK TO NORMALL So newbs have a chance. so heavys can own face So scouts can stab them in back So assults can chase them down So logistics can pick up the assult as he got blasted by a tank running after a tank. Lets bring this back because as of 1.6 this will no longer happen it will just be med suits with AR spraying madly killing 4 people by chance TTK is fine. Sometimes you win some, sometimes you lose some. The is too much crying and not enough soaking of the tears. But your tears can power my dropsuit and my scrambler rifle. I donGÇÖt even like using the Imperial. Too expensive and I make more cash with cheaper gear. Plus it takes better team work and obviously more skill. Who are you people. What planet are you from? I only ask so I can park a Titan in orbit to glass it. Bangs head on desk I'm glad u like the game at the moment but everything u enjoy about it is why I hate it. I can make more isk running around in free fits. That's not right the higher the risk(ie ur suit) the more reward u should be getting. And I disagree with ur teamwork statement back in closed un beta. You HAD to stick together to do anything this is why closed beta vets are si freaking good at this game. Teamwork was mandatory. At the moment all I need to do is slap on a free fit and run madly at the point I will drop at least 4 people and newberrys will clean up. Also 12 pages over 100 likes and not even an how do you do. Ccp lessens to their players my ass. U only post in threads that agree with ur current thinking to make it look like ur paying attention Don't worry steadyhand, that dbag is a hypocrite who thinks he can belittle people and tell them that they are wrong for their opinion that others are wrong. Just igmore him or he'll end up projecting his own OCD control issues on you. Better not ** him off either or he'll put a bounty on your head that is less than can be earned in a pub. ***** hypocritical tool.... Yup. I think TTK is Ok. It could be shorter if people want it so. I feel this new TTK puts more emphasis on reaction, and situational awareness then the Old shoddy HD one. If you are caught unawares, you are now a sitting duck, but you still can slip by the skin of you teeth. I like Halo's gameplay style, so if you want to increase TTK, please feel free. But I cant feel that big difference. For the State! For Caldari FW join Caldari Hierarchy Replication Warrior
steadyhand amarr Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1955	Posted - 2013.11.22 09:41:00 - [230] - Quote So u want a twitch shooter you are part of a very small group of players. The rest of us started playing dust because it was not twitch. Only a very small group of people who happend to be have fast reaction times will ever be good at dust if this stays that's not EvE. Please I beg u if u want a twitch shooter go play BF4 of CoD the rest of us want are thinking man shooter back. Not this twitch shooter bs. Sadly it's clear ccp does like or want its original croud so I will u all density :-) "my faith is my shield, the empress's light my guide and my fury my sword" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers

Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 579	Posted - 2013.11.22 09:53:00 - [231] - Quote Dust needs to get back the unique TTK that characterized the game and distinguished it from other shooters such as COD/CS/BF where you die from one bullet. We are not soldiers of the 21st century. This game takes place faaar into the future, where you have protective shield and nanofibres in your clothes. It should take some time to rip through all that HP. Also. Now that dust is a twitch game, it is even more noticeable how bad performance this game actually has. The higher TTK compensates lag and poor framerate. KDR > ALL ME > KDR ME > ALL
NAV HIV The Generals EoN. 540	Posted - 2013.11.22 15:13:00 - [232] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: LETS GET TTK BACK TO NORMALL So newbs have a chance. so heavys can own face So scouts can stab them in back So assults can chase them down So logistics can pick up the assult as he got blasted by a tank running after a tank. Lets bring this back because as of 1.6 this will no longer happen it will just be med suits with AR spraying madly killing 4 people by chance Amen!!!
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 748	Posted - 2013.11.23 19:13:00 - [233] - Quote too hung over for interesting bump, so regular old "bump" today Fix TTK!!! Balance Forge Guns With Your 1.7 Vehicle Changes!!! MATARI PRIDE!!!


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