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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.11.06 23:42:00 -
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I concur.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle
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Alldin Kan
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
767
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Posted - 2013.11.06 23:43:00 -
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Fist Groinpunch wrote:AR's were the best weapon even back in chromosome thanks to their versatility, but now they are so much better than anything else out there it's not even funny.
Please tone down the hitscan weapons, AR especially.
The removal of sharpshooter on the AR and SMG should be enough.
Dawww, all they want is cookies.
LOL Commando
LOL Plasma Cannon
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
1052
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Posted - 2013.11.06 23:48:00 -
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Ranger SnakeBlood wrote:+1
Take the old 10% buff back on weapons actually take it off of the better weapons of the game Classic AR(Auto), Srambler semi, Scrambler auto, SMG?(Debatable), Massdriver?(debatable again), laser(debatable possibly no reduction) Charge and thales snipers(probably biased but i think these should qualify)
Leave HMG as it is now so it gets a bit of a buff it kinda needs it,
Breach and Tac AR should be left alone so they get a passive buff the burst is debatable
Shotguns i have no idea alpha weapons are hard to judge
Much as I hate to say it, if we're going to roll back the 10% damage buff, it should only be rolled back on the pre-uprising weapons.
I can agree on it staying in place for the HMG though.
Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives....
Martyr for the Republic
Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
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bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
639
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Posted - 2013.11.06 23:48:00 -
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Signed **** is pretty ridiculous... |
Khal V'Rani
358
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Posted - 2013.11.07 00:00:00 -
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Signed.
+1 at Cosgar for dissapointing everyone equally.
I'm a scrub.
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Galvan Nized
Deep Space Republic
Top Men.
238
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Posted - 2013.11.07 00:01:00 -
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I think CCP needs to reevaluate what they want the AR (whole class in general) to be.
I doubt they wanted AR to be the ultimate killing machine, beating niche weapons in their niche environments.
Whether this was caused by hit detection, AA, dispersion skill or whatever the gun has gone a little overboard. |
jin foxdale
Jedi Slime.
84
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Posted - 2013.11.07 00:08:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Aqua-Regia wrote:What is a true Dust player? A dead skin cell pimp.
BOOYAH! Now that's a pun and a half.
+1 ad infinitem |
Leviticus Decoy
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
15
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Posted - 2013.11.07 00:36:00 -
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Signed.
What is the point of all these shields and armor if only to survive .6 seconds longer. FAIL. This game should promote wearing different Sh*t for different scenarios.
Why wear proto? Two complex damage, an exile AR in covenant blueprint suit is all I use now. Most are dead before I friggin blink. If I die, who cares, costs me only 11K ISK.
I remember in close beta when Fatties were feared and took a team to take out.
I remember when wearing proto meant you had a significant advantage over the regular merc cause you spent time into skilling into it. |
CHIPMINT BUTTERCUP
138
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Posted - 2013.11.07 00:36:00 -
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jin foxdale wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Aqua-Regia wrote:What is a true Dust player? A dead skin cell pimp. BOOYAH! Now that's a pun and a half. +1 ad infinitem I forgot to say I'm not signing. The first words I heard when stepping off the bus into New Eden were "Adapt or Die", so that's what I'm gonna do, until the rug gets pulled out from under me. Again. Repeat cycle forever.
First word I heard was Soon Gäó
DUST514 Love The Dream Hate The Product
Dusters - WhenGäó
CCP - SoonGäó
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Powerh8er
Norwegian Dust514 Corporation
Top Men.
279
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Posted - 2013.11.07 00:47:00 -
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IceStormers
Forsaken Immortals
Top Men.
61
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Posted - 2013.11.07 01:01:00 -
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Signed
TTK needs to increase greatly for some weapons
not a blanket hit |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
684
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Posted - 2013.11.07 01:03:00 -
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Mirataf wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:So...
Fix MMing
Tight HMG reticle and increase range
Buff scouts, someway, somehow
Leave assaults alone
Reduce the Logi health to a reasonable amount so they are used for logi'ing insead of being mega assaults.
Give Tanks the capabilities to kill the assault so the logi can pick him up.
And fixed. Not bad, although I would suggest nerfing logi health isn't right. They should be penalised for damage output When we got the 10% blanket increase to all weapons back in the day, perhaps we should now reduce it by 20% then add 2% per level for all suits including basic but not on the logi
No.
There there Mr. Scout and Ms. Heavy, don't cry
You'll still be useful in my eyes
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Zero Harpuia
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
1121
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Posted - 2013.11.07 06:25:00 -
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I'm currently doing some math to elaborate the argument for longer TTK, would you mind linking it here once I finish? I'd love to see the TTK back to true StrafeShooter levels.
ECM Equipment
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
316
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Posted - 2013.11.07 06:30:00 -
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Been saying the Time To Kill has been becoming too low since the new accuracy was implemented several months ago....
Basically, the damage per bullet is too high with the new accuracy we have, hence the old damage was based around bullets Missing, and that was a good mix then. Now that we have bullets hitting, we need to reduce the damage in order to make modules and suits worthwhile.
If you can read this, it means you are reading.
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noobsniper the 2nd
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
68
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Posted - 2013.11.07 06:36:00 -
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/signed but until it rlly happens ill be playin bf4
just call me scumbag noob
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Repe Susi
Rautaleijona
Top Men.
754
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Posted - 2013.11.07 06:52:00 -
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/signed.
It's ridiculous how fast people are dropping.
But as somebody said somewhere, maybe it's CCP's intention to keep this for awhile to make people lose ISK.
Whatever.
Remember, remember, the 30th of november
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HYENAKILLER X
TEAM SHINOBI
325
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Posted - 2013.11.07 07:03:00 -
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Nope
You are welcome for my leadership
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Mirataf
WARRIORS 1NC
120
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Posted - 2013.11.07 09:13:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Roll back 10% dmg on ars smgs and other weapons that function similarly. Limit suits to one dmg mod.
No, don't limit possibilities. However I would agree that stacking HP mods with current ttk is a poor choice over damage mods.
You should be able to' feel' a difference with module stacking whereas ATM you don't get a chance to feel any difference in the suit experience which is wrong |
Nguruthos IX
PEN 15 CLUB
2111
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Posted - 2013.11.07 09:27:00 -
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also up TTK on vehicles so some derpy forge gun doesn't blast it down in 2 seconds flat |
Dachande Anasazi
K-A-O-S theory
86
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Posted - 2013.11.07 09:34:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:LETS GET TTK BACK TO NORMALL
So newbs have a chance.
so heavys can own face
So scouts can stab them in back
So assults can chance them down
So logistics can pick up the assult as he got blasted by a tank running after a tank.
Lets bring this back because as of 1.6 this will no longer happen it will just be med suits with AR spraying madly killing 4 people by chance
Ummm even back in the day when there were only minmitar logi suits they could put 4 complex dmg mods with shield regulators and an MD... |
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Dachande Anasazi
K-A-O-S theory
86
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Posted - 2013.11.07 09:35:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:also up TTK on vehicles so some derpy forge gun doesn't blast it down in 2 seconds flat
forge guns could always destroy vehicles easily... |
steadyhand amarr
TeamPlayers
EoN.
1795
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Posted - 2013.11.07 09:44:00 -
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Good discussions around this :-).
Logic bro repair tools ate current fine though love seeing the heavy logi combo at the moment
"my faith is my shield, the empress's light my guide and my fury my sword"
winner of EU squad cup
GOGO power rangers
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
333
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Posted - 2013.11.07 09:52:00 -
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I thought that CCP might have an agenda behind this. Since they are not commenting in any threads about TTK.
Maybe this is their way of balancing standard vs proto gear?
Maybe they want to increase the risk vs reward of running proto?
Or maybe they just want to **** people off and steal our ISK?
+¦-damage specialist since Sep ´13.
CCP please make our decisions matter.
"AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514."
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steadyhand amarr
TeamPlayers
EoN.
1796
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Posted - 2013.11.07 10:05:00 -
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I am worried because when somthing like this happens they have normally said somthing by now. My fear is they always wanted dust.This way and this is why they are not saying anything :-(
"my faith is my shield, the empress's light my guide and my fury my sword"
winner of EU squad cup
GOGO power rangers
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
334
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Posted - 2013.11.07 10:10:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:I am worried because when somthing like this happens they have normally said somthing by now. My fear is they always wanted dust.This way and this is why they are not saying anything :-(
Could also be that they are ignoring the forums until they have fixed the problem, I just hope they will present a plan for a solution (or that they have a patch ready) at the same time as they officially announce this is a problem.
+¦-damage specialist since Sep ´13.
CCP please make our decisions matter.
"AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514."
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Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
657
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Posted - 2013.11.07 10:27:00 -
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I'm in - I liked Dust when it required more skill to aim and strafe, when it required more strategy in terms of how to kill your opponent and stay alive in a sustained fight; that all came with higher time to kill.
Don't get me wrong, the current form requires strategy in terms of positioning, staying unseen etc.... you can't hide behind lots of tank, but proto gear is earned to be FEARED, not earned to be laughed at.
Dust, and New Eden is a harsh place, and they've changed the version of harsh that it has become.... I'm not interested in adapting to this new kind of New Eden - it's too much like the other games.
Something else needs to be done about the newbro experience; the stomping needs to be addressed but not this way - not by making the SP invested by higher level players useless, not by making PROTO suits a joke.
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Death Dealer86
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
73
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Posted - 2013.11.07 10:32:00 -
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I'm a dumb heavy that don't know how to sign thanks to taking all of those AR rounds to the head.
Where do I make my mark? |
Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
337
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Posted - 2013.11.07 10:34:00 -
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Matticus Monk wrote:Something else needs to be done about the newbro experience; the stomping needs to be addressed but not this way - not by making the SP invested by higher level players useless, not by making PROTO suits a joke.
+1
This was what I am protesting against by only using BPOs.
+¦-damage specialist since Sep ´13.
CCP please make our decisions matter.
"AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514."
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8213
Grade No.2
554
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Posted - 2013.11.07 10:43:00 -
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But the new Exec. Prod. said he wanted to turn up the action... or was it make more money at the f2p system and remove BPOs and also shorten TTK, because more crossover players will come...
Shield/Armor tanking is pointless in this game now. 140 armor goes just as fast as 500 armor...
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Booker DaFooker
Ancient Exiles
162
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Posted - 2013.11.07 10:45:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:Mirataf wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:So...
Fix MMing
Tight HMG reticle and increase range
Buff scouts, someway, somehow
Leave assaults alone
Reduce the Logi health to a reasonable amount so they are used for logi'ing insead of being mega assaults.
Give Tanks the capabilities to kill the assault so the logi can pick him up.
And fixed. Not bad, although I would suggest nerfing logi health isn't right. They should be penalised for damage output When we got the 10% blanket increase to all weapons back in the day, perhaps we should now reduce it by 20% then add 2% per level for all suits including basic but not on the logi I am suggesting Logi's Health being brought down to assault heath. Those sum bitches can get 1200 HP. Assaults get 900. Why do they need so much more? Just equalize everything about the two besides the sidearm and equipment slots. Only weirdo is the Amarr Logi, which just needs to have a moderate loss in either speed or health to balance it out.
Because we spend half our time without an offensive weapon in our hands keeping everyone alive/supplied/informed and without that protection we can't even take the slightest risk to help others out. It is pretty much like that now as even a 1000 hp Barely gives you a second of survival time, ridiculous!
Bullshit Baffles Brains
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