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Baal Omniscient wrote:

steadyhand amarr wrote:

LETS GET TTK BACK TO NORMALL

So newbs have a chance.
so heavys can own face
So scouts can stab them in back
So assults can chase them down
So logistics can pick up the assult as he got blasted by a tank running after a tank.

Lets bring this back because as of 1.6 this will no longer happen it will just be med suits with AR spraying madly killing 4 people by chance

You know.... this may be a little off topic, but I feel it needs to be said.

The majority of the Imperfects spent the majority of closed beta trying to troll Dust into submission, trying to shame it into a decent game rather than being constructive and avoiding conflict for the good of the conversation. Now look at you guys. There are only a few of you left in that corp, but the few left are the few who actually have the patience for conversation without your ego trying to strangle every person who disagrees with you into submission with death threats and troll rage rants. It's kinda peaceful without the Zitro's and the rest going out of their way to steamroll ideas into the game. Sure, people still try to do it, but I've yet to see anyone do it as effectively as they did.

You know.... I kinda miss those days.... damn nostalgia..... *sniffle*

Anyway.... I had a point here.... hold on.... Oh yeah. I wanted to say that if you guys ever decide to rebuild, you would have an entirely new image for yourselves now since several of you guys have actually been pretty active and positive here in the forums for a long while.

So congrats for giving yourselves a new self-image, at least to the noobs lol. And of course:

LETS GET TTK BACK TO NORMAL!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Rowdy Railgunner Xer Cloud Consortium 142	Posted - 2013.11.11 23:49:00 - [181] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: Yeah! I want my strafing shooter back ! **** this cod 5 shot BS Meanwhile, strafing was practically invented when HALO came out and perfected on COD2 and is a twitch shooter mechanic. CS, COD, TF.... yeah you want a twitch game there Mara. Go play something else if that is what you want.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1081	Posted - 2013.11.12 01:39:00 - [182] - Quote TunRa wrote: DJINN Marauder wrote: Yeah! I want my strafing shooter back ! **** this cod 5 shot BS I dodn't want Dance Dance 514 again, my heavy ass couldn't kill anything. DD514 must die. I was against it last year and I am still against it. Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Onesimus Tarsus Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 675	Posted - 2013.11.12 02:21:00 - [183] - Quote Signed
CHIPMINT BUTTERCUP 143	Posted - 2013.11.12 12:55:00 - [184] - Quote Meh no blue tag love this subject has been rejected! DUST514 I love the dream but not the current product. Dusters - WhenGäó CCP - SoonGäó
Snaps Tremor DUST University Ivy League 368	Posted - 2013.11.12 12:58:00 - [185] - Quote Just to clarify, I did not vote for this thread to get a 'strafing shooter' back. I voted for it to get a shooter that isn't flat, in the sense that there are a lot of diverse, reasonably balanced options and all of them are viable. This is the opposite of where it's at right now.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 444	Posted - 2013.11.12 12:58:00 - [186] - Quote CCP is monitoring the TTK apparently. Collecting statistics. CPM has brought this issue up with CCP. Lets just wait and see what happens. Meanwhile, I do not play this game. +¦-damage specialist since Sep ´13. CCP please make our decisions matter. "AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514."
Snaps Tremor DUST University Ivy League 371	Posted - 2013.11.12 13:16:00 - [187] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: CCP is monitoring the TTK apparently. Collecting statistics. CPM has brought this issue up with CCP. Lets just wait and see what happens. Meanwhile, I do not play this game. Statistic-munching works brilliantly for Eve, a game which is basically one large constantly running equation with a pretty GUI. Unfortunately, Dust does have an actual game running on top of those numbers, and you cannot fully comprehend the frustration of 95% of your deaths being to mouth breathing AR tanks until you've lost those clones up close and personal.
Rei Shepard Spectre II 905	Posted - 2013.11.12 13:17:00 - [188] - Quote Rowdy Railgunner wrote: DJINN Marauder wrote: Yeah! I want my strafing shooter back ! **** this cod 5 shot BS Meanwhile, strafing was practically invented when HALO came out and perfected on COD2 and is a twitch shooter mechanic. CS, COD, TF.... yeah you want a twitch game there Mara. Go play something else if that is what you want. I am pretty sure Strafing was invented when we got Doom on our PC's, you know when we were still using DOS 6.2, Norton Commanders and the Mouse hadnt been introduced to the shooter genre....oh wait you werent born back then ... I know i was strafing my *ss off when the Cyber demon was shooting rockets my way ....loads of ...rockets...or in Deathmatch over Coaxial cable networked games, someone unloaded the Plasma gun in your general direction. Halo ..invented strafing .../facepalm Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 444	Posted - 2013.11.12 13:19:00 - [189] - Quote Like I wrote in earlier (in another thread): Spectral Clone wrote: Statistics aside, if you dont know how changes 'really' affect the players your game can drift away from the vision. +¦-damage specialist since Sep ´13. CCP please make our decisions matter. "AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514."
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 444	Posted - 2013.11.12 13:22:00 - [190] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: Rowdy Railgunner wrote: DJINN Marauder wrote: Yeah! I want my strafing shooter back ! **** this cod 5 shot BS Meanwhile, strafing was practically invented when HALO came out and perfected on COD2 and is a twitch shooter mechanic. CS, COD, TF.... yeah you want a twitch game there Mara. Go play something else if that is what you want. I am pretty sure Strafing was invented when we got Doom on our PC's, you know when we were still using DOS 6.2, Norton Commanders and the Mouse hadnt been introduced to the shooter genre....oh wait you werent born back then ... I know i was strafing my ss off when the Cyber demon was shooting rockets my way ....loads of ...rockets...or in Deathmatch over Coaxial cable networked games, someone unloaded the Plasma gun in your general direction. Halo ..invented strafing .../facepalm Gotta love them coaxial networks. My childhood friend had brothers who at the time were studying to become engineers. We would join them and play HeXeN deathmatch against each other for hours... awesome times. LOL @ strafing being first done in HALO and COD. Some people just need to learn gaming history. The high HP strafing shooter we had previously, seemed very much like EVE (where you orbit your targets instead of strafe them). It was one thing that made this game unique if you compare it to other games. Also the skill tree and soon to be economy of course. But the high HP strafing gameplay really was something fresh for me. +¦-damage specialist since Sep ´13. CCP please make our decisions matter.* "AR 514. Core Locus 514. Bricktank 514."

Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 5178	Posted - 2013.11.17 23:07:00 - [191] - Quote Bump. Level 5 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Supporter of CCP raRaRa.
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 3786	Posted - 2013.11.18 00:39:00 - [192] - Quote As long as the change is done with extreme caution and done carefully. Longer TTK inevitably means that there is going to be more time to open/close range, which is important in the sense that range ultimately governs a fight. There's also a number of imbalances at the moment (one example being that Gallente Assault suits have a 25% bonus to shield recharge rate) that need to be taken into account as increased TTK makes these small things more noticeable. It goes from sandpaper being mildly annoying to razor wire shredding, when applied to the skin, as an example. It's true that the line between play styles gets a little blurred. I for one don't think that an ASCR should be able to outright kill me as fast an AR when I'm an armor tanker but it should still possess the potential to do so if I'm not careful. It's VERY IMPORTANT to take these balancing factors into account when considering how to increase TTK as simply making blanket changes like increasing HP values or reducing weapon damage values only opens up the mechanical issues to being overarching problems. This could be as simple as changing resistance values so that shield based weaponry has more/less an effective depending on what it's engaging (shield/armor) but I don't like suggesting direct changes as there's a lot of options that need to be explored. I don't feel this is just an issue of weapons doing too much damage, having too much range or suits having too little EHP - there's a lot of things to consider. In essence, my only concern is that this is done carefully and with a surgeon's precision rather than like a pipe wrench lobotomy. Roles should have immediately noticeable impact and there should be conscious thought and decision making on combat rather than the current "my weapon does damage so I can kill anything" mindset. ANON Diplomat -//- I Support SP Rollover ^_^
SgtDoughnut Red Star Jr. EoN. 377	Posted - 2013.11.18 00:40:00 - [193] - Quote Yes please, all this twitch based COD bs makes me wonder if we are even wearing advanced suits of powered armor.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1107	Posted - 2013.11.18 00:47:00 - [194] - Quote I've been thinking about this a lot lately and this is the conclusion I've come to. If TTK is to stay this fast, all movement speeds need to be drastically reduced. If the fast movement speeds are what is desired, then TTK needs to be much slower. Either way will improve the pacing of the game. Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 3786	Posted - 2013.11.18 00:50:00 - [195] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: I've been thinking about this a lot lately and this is the conclusion I've come to. If TTK is to stay this fast, all movement speeds need to be drastically reduced. If the fast movement speeds are what is desired, then TTK needs to be much slower. Either way will improve the pacing of the game. If you slow down movement speed and increase TTK than nothing really changes as you can stay on target for longer. ANON Diplomat -//- I Support SP Rollover ^_^
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1107	Posted - 2013.11.18 00:58:00 - [196] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: I've been thinking about this a lot lately and this is the conclusion I've come to. If TTK is to stay this fast, all movement speeds need to be drastically reduced. If the fast movement speeds are what is desired, then TTK needs to be much slower. Either way will improve the pacing of the game. If you slow down movement speed and increase TTK than nothing really changes as you can stay on target for longer. I think you misread me or I wasn't as clear as I thought I was. If TTK stays as it is currently, movement speeds should be halved (if not more). If fast movement speeds are what is desired, TTK should be increased greatly (either by greatly increasing EHP for all suits or greatly reducing DPS potential for all weapons). Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
NOAMIzzzzz Pradox One Proficiency V. 58	Posted - 2013.11.18 01:09:00 - [197] - Quote The OP is right...And sighned.
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 3786	Posted - 2013.11.18 02:24:00 - [198] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: I've been thinking about this a lot lately and this is the conclusion I've come to. If TTK is to stay this fast, all movement speeds need to be drastically reduced. If the fast movement speeds are what is desired, then TTK needs to be much slower. Either way will improve the pacing of the game. If you slow down movement speed and increase TTK than nothing really changes as you can stay on target for longer. I think you misread me or I wasn't as clear as I thought I was. If TTK stays as it is currently, movement speeds should be halved (if not more). If the movement speed is halved than players would be moving more slowly than Heavies. Can you imagine a Scout moving as fast as a Logistics? How easy that would be to kill? TTK would be even worse than it is. ANON Diplomat -//- I Support SP Rollover ^_^
Adiran Zanzalin PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16	Posted - 2013.11.18 02:26:00 - [199] - Quote /signed Amarr Victor!!
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1107	Posted - 2013.11.18 03:10:00 - [200] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: I've been thinking about this a lot lately and this is the conclusion I've come to. If TTK is to stay this fast, all movement speeds need to be drastically reduced. If the fast movement speeds are what is desired, then TTK needs to be much slower. Either way will improve the pacing of the game. If you slow down movement speed and increase TTK than nothing really changes as you can stay on target for longer. I think you misread me or I wasn't as clear as I thought I was. If TTK stays as it is currently, movement speeds should be halved (if not more). If the movement speed is halved than players would be moving more slowly than Heavies. Can you imagine a Scout moving as fast as a Logistics? How easy that would be to kill? TTK would be even worse than it is. Maybe halved would be a little extreme, though I still feel it should be reduced if TTK is to stay as it is currently. Perhaps increasing map distances and scaling back movement speeds would achieve the effect that I am thinking would improve pacing. Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta

TEBOW BAGGINS The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 1043	Posted - 2013.11.18 03:41:00 - [201] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: Roll back the 10% damage buff of a couple patches ago and lets see how she plays. In other words, signed. or they could remove the aimbot that no one ever asked for
steadyhand amarr Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1931	Posted - 2013.11.18 11:24:00 - [202] - Quote TEBOW BAGGINS wrote: Zahle Undt wrote: Roll back the 10% damage buff of a couple patches ago and lets see how she plays. In other words, signed. or they could remove the aimbot that no one ever asked for Except loads of people did ask for it. And it was proven by players themselves that AA is weaker in dust than any of big shooters out on the market at the moment. So ur statement is horrificly out of date to be fashionable. Thanks for bump though. Iv given up though waiting for ps4 and killzone now :-) "my faith is my shield, the empress's light my guide and my fury my sword" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
THUNDERGROOVE ZionTCD Public Disorder. 1252	Posted - 2013.11.18 11:31:00 - [203] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: Roll back the 10% damage buff of a couple patches ago and lets see how she plays. In other words, signed. How about cut all hitscan weapons damage by 1/3rd instead? ZionTCD Director & Ammar Loyalist Amarr Sentinel \| Amarr Logi \| *Losematar* Scout What is a signature?
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 735	Posted - 2013.11.18 11:59:00 - [204] - Quote Throw in an end to nade, hive and uplink spamming andGÇª signed. If the pen is mightier than the sword, in a duel I'll let you have the pen! -Steven Wright
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1108	Posted - 2013.11.18 12:16:00 - [205] - Quote THUNDERGROOVE wrote: Zahle Undt wrote: Roll back the 10% damage buff of a couple patches ago and lets see how she plays. In other words, signed. How about cut all hitscan weapons damage by 1/3rd instead? I just noticed your sig, lol@losematar, I seem to remember some prison sex last night and we weren't the violated ones..... At least IIRC, that wasn't the one we lost. On Topic: Yes, TTK needs some serious help. Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Rannici Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 106	Posted - 2013.11.18 13:14:00 - [206] - Quote Quote: Roll back the 10% damage buff of a couple patches ago and lets see how she plays. In other words, signed. signed
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 736	Posted - 2013.11.18 14:14:00 - [207] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: LETS GET TTK BACK TO NORMALL So newbs have a chance. so heavys can own face So scouts can stab them in back So assults can chase them down So logistics can pick up the assult as he got blasted by a tank running after a tank. Lets bring this back because as of 1.6 this will no longer happen it will just be med suits with AR spraying madly killing 4 people by chance You know.... this may be a little off topic, but I feel it needs to be said. The majority of the Imperfects spent the majority of closed beta trying to troll Dust into submission, trying to shame it into a decent game rather than being constructive and avoiding conflict for the good of the conversation. Now look at you guys. There are only a few of you left in that corp, but the few left are the few who actually have the patience for conversation without your ego trying to strangle every person who disagrees with you into submission with death threats and troll rage rants. It's kinda peaceful without the Zitro's and the rest going out of their way to steamroll ideas into the game. Sure, people still try to do it, but I've yet to see anyone do it as effectively as they did. You know.... I kinda miss those days.... damn nostalgia..... sniffle Anyway.... I had a point here.... hold on.... Oh yeah. I wanted to say that if you guys ever decide to rebuild, you would have an entirely new image for yourselves now since several of you guys have actually been pretty active and positive here in the forums for a long while. So congrats for giving yourselves a new self-image, at least to the noobs lol. And of course: LETS GET TTK BACK TO NORMAL!!!!!!!!!!!! EXERCISE... EX AR CISE... EGXS AR SISE... EGS ARE SISE... EGGS ARE SIDES.... FOR BACON..... BACON.
steadyhand amarr Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1933	Posted - 2013.11.18 14:22:00 - [208] - Quote Uh thanks I think lol "my faith is my shield, the empress's light my guide and my fury my sword" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1109	Posted - 2013.11.18 14:36:00 - [209] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: LETS GET TTK BACK TO NORMALL So newbs have a chance. so heavys can own face So scouts can stab them in back So assults can chase them down So logistics can pick up the assult as he got blasted by a tank running after a tank. Lets bring this back because as of 1.6 this will no longer happen it will just be med suits with AR spraying madly killing 4 people by chance You know.... this may be a little off topic, but I feel it needs to be said. The majority of the Imperfects spent the majority of closed beta trying to troll Dust into submission, trying to shame it into a decent game rather than being constructive and avoiding conflict for the good of the conversation. Now look at you guys. There are only a few of you left in that corp, but the few left are the few who actually have the patience for conversation without your ego trying to strangle every person who disagrees with you into submission with death threats and troll rage rants. It's kinda peaceful without the Zitro's and the rest going out of their way to steamroll ideas into the game. Sure, people still try to do it, but I've yet to see anyone do it as effectively as they did. You know.... I kinda miss those days.... damn nostalgia..... sniffle Anyway.... I had a point here.... hold on.... Oh yeah. I wanted to say that if you guys ever decide to rebuild, you would have an entirely new image for yourselves now since several of you guys have actually been pretty active and positive here in the forums for a long while. So congrats for giving yourselves a new self-image, at least to the noobs lol. And of course: LETS GET TTK BACK TO NORMAL!!!!!!!!!!!! Your offtopic remarks are so true, it is a shame that there will probably always be those like you and I who remember the ugly truth about them. I wouldn't be surprised to find that their rep will forever be tarnished by their Closed Beta behavior (at least in the eyes of some). On topic: FIX TTK NAO!!!!!!! Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 337	Posted - 2013.11.18 15:01:00 - [210] - Quote 1 grenade for everyone! except sleek then you get 2!! Grenades come from a different ammo pool then all the other ammo! Separate nanohives for grenades!



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